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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
July 29 2015 06:13 GMT
#101
I'm not surprised that Mind won but didn't predict a 3-0...
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 29 2015 06:15 GMT
#102
Thanks prech. Guess he figured that Killer will make it closer.

On July 29 2015 15:11 BisuDagger wrote:
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On July 29 2015 15:09 c3rberUs wrote:
On July 29 2015 15:00 BisuDagger wrote:
Mind is a patch Terran. He won't have such a good record after the next blizzard patch.

This statement is bannable iirc. Mods pls. xD

So fast! Thanks prech.

Having trouble finding that "report" button are you?

lol. All he has to do is ask 2pac to ban or pm a mod! :D
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10155 Posts
July 29 2015 06:29 GMT
#103
On July 29 2015 11:24 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 10:52 FlaShFTW wrote:
On July 29 2015 10:15 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On July 29 2015 09:56 BigFan wrote:
On July 29 2015 09:27 c3rberUs wrote:
On July 28 2015 23:24 BLinD-RawR wrote:
the reason why I let FlashFTW write the preview for this match is because I could literally only get one line out.

"Zergs are a joke to Mind"

LOL

I say #notenoughpassion! haha.


I got the #PASSHUN, but you can't argue what I said either.

obviously, its is only because i am a superior writer to a veteran such as yourself.


yes, yes you are.

... I concede. I officially quit writing for TL now.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
July 29 2015 06:36 GMT
#104
On July 29 2015 15:29 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 11:24 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On July 29 2015 10:52 FlaShFTW wrote:
On July 29 2015 10:15 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On July 29 2015 09:56 BigFan wrote:
On July 29 2015 09:27 c3rberUs wrote:
On July 28 2015 23:24 BLinD-RawR wrote:
the reason why I let FlashFTW write the preview for this match is because I could literally only get one line out.

"Zergs are a joke to Mind"

LOL

I say #notenoughpassion! haha.


I got the #PASSHUN, but you can't argue what I said either.

obviously, its is only because i am a superior writer to a veteran such as yourself.


yes, yes you are.

... I concede. I officially quit writing for TL now.


hahahaha don't make my work load bigger.
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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
July 29 2015 07:20 GMT
#105
On July 29 2015 15:15 BigFan wrote:
Thanks prech. Guess he figured that Killer will make it closer.

Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 15:11 BisuDagger wrote:
On July 29 2015 15:09 c3rberUs wrote:
On July 29 2015 15:00 BisuDagger wrote:
Mind is a patch Terran. He won't have such a good record after the next blizzard patch.

This statement is bannable iirc. Mods pls. xD

So fast! Thanks prech.

Having trouble finding that "report" button are you?

lol. All he has to do is ask 2pac to ban or pm a mod! :D

Unless BD gives me some LB pointsWhy would I report someone as respected as BD? I can let this slide. haha
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[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
July 29 2015 09:56 GMT
#106
Poor Killer. Threw everything but the kitchen sink at Mind in Game 3, and still couldn't break him.

Mind is simply all that in TvZ.



User was warned for being hilarious
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5556 Posts
July 29 2015 10:10 GMT
#107
On July 29 2015 18:56 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Poor Killer. Threw everything but the kitchen sink at Mind in Game 3, and still couldn't break him.

Mind is simply all that in TvZ.



Very bad decision making is what cost him the game. He threw everything, including the game itself...
reminisce12
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia318 Posts
July 29 2015 10:35 GMT
#108
holy shit killer is so bad... no crack.. no defilers.. throwing away so many units against a wall.
[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
July 29 2015 12:52 GMT
#109
On July 29 2015 19:35 reminisce12 wrote:
holy shit killer is so bad... no crack.. no defilers.. throwing away so many units against a wall.

And yet he got to the Ro8.


User was warned for being hilarious
[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
July 29 2015 12:55 GMT
#110
So then... does Mong beat Hero this weekend, to make it a total clean-sweep of all remaining Zergs?

User was warned for being hilarious
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19237 Posts
July 29 2015 13:06 GMT
#111
On July 29 2015 21:52 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 19:35 reminisce12 wrote:
holy shit killer is so bad... no crack.. no defilers.. throwing away so many units against a wall.

And yet he got to the Ro8.



Against arguably weak competition. :D
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reminisce12
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia318 Posts
July 29 2015 14:31 GMT
#112
On July 29 2015 22:06 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 21:52 [[Starlight]] wrote:
On July 29 2015 19:35 reminisce12 wrote:
holy shit killer is so bad... no crack.. no defilers.. throwing away so many units against a wall.

And yet he got to the Ro8.



Against arguably weak competition. :D


I think its that but I also think its the lack of coaches too. killer wont even know he didnt upgrade crack going home today.
on top of that there's no one there to help them strategize.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 29 2015 14:40 GMT
#113
Killer's micro and macro are still decent overall though. Watch his last games or just read the recap/see gif in the last SSL11 writeup. I think in that last game, he started to focus heavily on macro which was why you kept seeing a ton of zerg units streaming towards Mind's bases for a good 5 minutes or so. He probably figured that Mind wouldn't be able to defend considering he already had to lift his base at 8, had to abandon his natural and move everything into the mains of each base and that he'll break his soon which it looked like it at one point.

In hindsight, it looked like it was a decent move, but, Mind didn't sit back and take it. He killed all the drones at two of Killer's bases and mined a lot of the area that the zerglings are coming through allowing him to defend against their numbers. So, while I think Killer played a terrible game when he started doing that, I can understand why he made such a move. As for upgrading crack, we've seen pros make these kind of mistakes back in the professional BW days. Ex. Stork forgetting goon range.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
July 29 2015 14:48 GMT
#114
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-29 17:36:21
July 29 2015 15:59 GMT
#115
On July 29 2015 23:48 amazingxkcd wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BK1x_Gr-2w


thanks but you're talking too quickly and softly compared to BisuDagger and it's so hard to listen to you.

edit: in game 2 your volume was louder and it's better

terrible series by killer.

g2 shouldn't have been that bad (or "good") with some scourges patrolling
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-29 16:10:43
July 29 2015 16:09 GMT
#116
On July 30 2015 00:59 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 23:48 amazingxkcd wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BK1x_Gr-2w


thanks but you're talking too quickly and softly compared to BisuDagger and it's so hard to listen to you.ch

edit: in game 2 your volume was louder and it's better


You just need to get used XKCD's sexy accent! 1st time I heard it I said myself: "WTF, why is he even casting with that grumbling voice", but I really love it now.
sunbeams are never made like me...
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-29 17:53:06
July 29 2015 17:46 GMT
#117
On July 29 2015 23:40 BigFan wrote:
Killer's micro and macro are still decent overall though. Watch his last games or just read the recap/see gif in the last SSL11 writeup. I think in that last game, he started to focus heavily on macro which was why you kept seeing a ton of zerg units streaming towards Mind's bases for a good 5 minutes or so. He probably figured that Mind wouldn't be able to defend considering he already had to lift his base at 8, had to abandon his natural and move everything into the mains of each base and that he'll break his soon which it looked like it at one point.

In hindsight, it looked like it was a decent move, but, Mind didn't sit back and take it. He killed all the drones at two of Killer's bases and mined a lot of the area that the zerglings are coming through allowing him to defend against their numbers. So, while I think Killer played a terrible game when he started doing that, I can understand why he made such a move. As for upgrading crack, we've seen pros make these kind of mistakes back in the professional BW days. Ex. Stork forgetting goon range.


there's no way to rationalise this. killer fumbled big time and did so many stupid things late game in g3.. and in the entire series actually. (no scourge in g2)

he deserved to get 3-0'd


On July 30 2015 01:09 outscar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2015 00:59 JieXian wrote:
On July 29 2015 23:48 amazingxkcd wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BK1x_Gr-2w


thanks but you're talking too quickly and softly compared to BisuDagger and it's so hard to listen to you.ch

edit: in game 2 your volume was louder and it's better


You just need to get used XKCD's sexy accent! 1st time I heard it I said myself: "WTF, why is he even casting with that grumbling voice", but I really love it now.



once the volume was raised in g2 onwards I understood him fine
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-29 18:33:25
July 29 2015 18:33 GMT
#118
On July 30 2015 02:46 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 23:40 BigFan wrote:
Killer's micro and macro are still decent overall though. Watch his last games or just read the recap/see gif in the last SSL11 writeup. I think in that last game, he started to focus heavily on macro which was why you kept seeing a ton of zerg units streaming towards Mind's bases for a good 5 minutes or so. He probably figured that Mind wouldn't be able to defend considering he already had to lift his base at 8, had to abandon his natural and move everything into the mains of each base and that he'll break his soon which it looked like it at one point.

In hindsight, it looked like it was a decent move, but, Mind didn't sit back and take it. He killed all the drones at two of Killer's bases and mined a lot of the area that the zerglings are coming through allowing him to defend against their numbers. So, while I think Killer played a terrible game when he started doing that, I can understand why he made such a move. As for upgrading crack, we've seen pros make these kind of mistakes back in the professional BW days. Ex. Stork forgetting goon range.


there's no way to rationalise this. killer fumbled big time and did so many stupid things late game in g3.. and in the entire series actually. (no scourge in g2)

he deserved to get 3-0'd


Show nested quote +
On July 30 2015 01:09 outscar wrote:
On July 30 2015 00:59 JieXian wrote:
On July 29 2015 23:48 amazingxkcd wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BK1x_Gr-2w


thanks but you're talking too quickly and softly compared to BisuDagger and it's so hard to listen to you.ch

edit: in game 2 your volume was louder and it's better


You just need to get used XKCD's sexy accent! 1st time I heard it I said myself: "WTF, why is he even casting with that grumbling voice", but I really love it now.



once the volume was raised in g2 onwards I understood him fine

no, I disagree. His behaviour in game is very easy to rationalize if you look at the position he was in. Re-read my post above to see my point. If you still disagree, well, it's your call so let's agree to disagree then.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
July 29 2015 22:27 GMT
#119
On July 29 2015 22:06 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 21:52 [[Starlight]] wrote:
On July 29 2015 19:35 reminisce12 wrote:
holy shit killer is so bad... no crack.. no defilers.. throwing away so many units against a wall.

And yet he got to the Ro8.



Against arguably weak competition. :D


Maybe to some extent, but if so, that's not Killer's fault. He can only play who's in front of him.

I also think Mind makes a lot of players look worse than they are. He and Bisu are pretty much the class of this field.


User was warned for being hilarious
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
July 30 2015 03:45 GMT
#120
If you think about it, Mind's proxy rax was genius on HBR. From the previous Killer game, he saw that Killer had insane 2 hatch muta pressure vs Last on that map. With the proxy rax and Mind threatening wraiths and mech, Killer was forced to go into hydra tech.
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