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41 Maki Starleague Season 1Monday, Apr 13 7:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
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HiyA 
Shuttle 
EffOrt Sea![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/DSa9q.png)
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Afreeca Broadcast by 41TV
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Snipealot Re-stream
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[41MSL] SF: HiyA v Shuttle, Sea v EffOrt
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prech
United States2948 Posts
41 Maki Starleague Season 1Monday, Apr 13 7:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) HiyA Shuttle EffOrt Sea+ Show Spoiler [Bracket] + Afreeca Broadcast by 41TV Snipealot Re-stream | ||
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prech
United States2948 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/8fTOb.png) Poll: Semifinal #1? HiyA (5) Shuttle (4) 9 total votes Your vote: Semifinal #1? | ||
2Pacalypse-
Croatia9527 Posts
I don't even care really who wins, just want to watch some great games. | ||
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Foxxan
Sweden3427 Posts
If it is, i really want to see his skills. I thought he was an excellent zerg back then. To bad he got banned. | ||
c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
EffOrt, then yes it is him.Also he wasn't the excellent zerg who got banned.+ Show Spoiler + | ||
BisuDagger
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50602 Posts
On April 13 2015 05:34 BisuDagger wrote: Sea and hiya should be the standard picks here. Hiya vs shuttle will be close though. for the sake of my predictions I will neither agree nor disagree with your statements. | ||
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TheGreatOne
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Probemicro
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On April 13 2015 18:35 BLinD-RawR wrote: Better hope liquipedia is wrong because otherwise 8 points go void prech the dude with the afreeca account (thus being able to check 41sl afreeca schedule page) being wrong ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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BLinD-RawR
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Hiya at 1 as Brown Terran Shuttle at 11 as Red Protoss | ||
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Foxxan
Sweden3427 Posts
Hiya won the first game right? Just so iam sure to watch the correct stream | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50602 Posts
On April 13 2015 19:30 Foxxan wrote: + Show Spoiler + Hiya won the first game right? Just so iam sure to watch the correct stream yes | ||
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
 Anything notable happened so far? | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On April 13 2015 20:01 c3rberUs wrote: Man, I can't watch today. Anything notable happened so far?my stream has been lagging nonstop until now, but we're on game 3 on bloody ridge. | ||
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Foxxan
Sweden3427 Posts
On April 12 2015 19:38 c3rberUs wrote: If you are talking about the OSL champion EffOrt, then yes it is him.Also he wasn't the excellent zerg who got banned.+ Show Spoiler + Alright. Thanks. Its almost a must-see match for me. | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
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Probemicro
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On April 13 2015 20:54 BisuDagger wrote: Effort defeating Sea would be a major upset. This will change how I view Zero vs Sea in the TTSL. if anyone is capable of beating sea consistently its effort or in-form killer, not Zero. | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6794 Posts
jesus... | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19300 Posts
On April 13 2015 21:04 Probemicro wrote: if anyone is capable of beating sea consistently its effort or in-form killer, not Zero. Zero has arguably the best ZvT out of any current Zerg. I will agree your statement about Killer. However, there was little known about the shape of Effort before this match and I argue still is. All our knowledge is based off kespa hype until we see him compete in another two tournaments. It's like all the people saying Last has the best TvT. That's just riding hype. Sea losing here is an upset. | ||
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
On April 13 2015 21:10 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: also is pretty sad u guys comparing zero killer with effort OSL Champion vs Flash !!! jesus... Well, Zero did get into the finals with FlaSh.  | ||
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
On April 13 2015 21:10 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: also is pretty sad u guys comparing zero killer with effort OSL Champion vs Flash !!! jesus... 2013-2014 killer was damn good, he didnt win 2 SSL for nothing. still effort has the most potential of all the current zergs | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6794 Posts
On April 13 2015 21:12 Probemicro wrote: 2013-2014 killer was damn good, he didnt win 2 SSL for nothing. still effort has the most potential of all the current zergs ofc it wasnt for nothing,the competition level was lower.he is good,but effort is S class, | ||
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Probemicro
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On April 13 2015 21:11 BisuDagger wrote: However, there was little known about the shape of Effort before this match and I argue still is. All our knowledge is based off kespa hype until we see him compete in another two tournaments. It's like all the people saying Last has the best TvT. That's just riding hype. Sea losing here is an upset. what is watching effort's afreeca stream (ok nvm IRL matters eh) i watched both of effort and zero's stream and i would say im much more impressed with effort's continued effort to improve his macro and the glimpses of genius that can be seen occasionally with his play. zero is very good but during games his mentality seem to deflate easily with some setbacks and he has that tendency to choke in the important games (eg. his semi against kwanro in ksl). thats why i don't really like him as a player. and the general gist i feel (that many others in korean and chinese communities also concur) is effort has better overall mechanics than zero. Even though he still loses a lot, sick mechanics plus some beastly tactics and genius moves making him very satisfying to watch for any 1v1 purists, just like bisu. the chinese fan didnt gave him 10000 balloons for nothing ytd. | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19300 Posts
On April 13 2015 21:22 Probemicro wrote: what is watching effort's afreeca stream (ok nvm IRL matters eh) i watched both of effort and zero's stream and i would say im much more impressed with effort's continued effort to improve his macro and the glimpses of genius that can be seen occasionally with his play. zero is very good but during games his mentality seem to deflate easily with some setbacks and he has that tendency to choke in the important games (eg. his semi against kwanro in ksl). thats why i don't really like him as a player. and the general gist i feel (that many others in korean and chinese communities also concur) is effort has better overall mechanics than zero. Even though he still loses a lot, sick mechanics plus some beastly tactics and genius moves making him very satisfying to watch for any 1v1 purists, just like bisu. the chinese fan didnt gave him 10000 balloons for nothing ytd. Definitely good points.I'm not saying Effort is this case, but there are people who are better ladder then tournament players. I believe Larva is one of those people. I like to see how players perform in tournament settings before I make my judgements, but again that's just my preference. It is very exciting that Effort is translating his performance on stream to results in the tournament setting. I have no doubt he is in competition for the top Zerg spot. I hope he can solve ZvT in a more consistent manor then Modesty who has all but fallen off the map since his run early last year. I also agree with your statements about Zero's mentality. This is a problem he hasn't solved since KESPA days. | ||
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
You see him doing funny stuff/eat/sleep on stream sometimes, even occasionally playing other games like H1Z1 in contrast effort is almost 100% BW games no nonsense | ||
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prech
United States2948 Posts
 Looks like we have a ZvT finals ahead. to Blind-rawr for the fine LP updatesTLPD updated, EffOrt knocks Sea out of the #1 spot  On April 13 2015 22:23 BisuDagger wrote: Definitely good points.I'm not saying Effort is this case, but there are people who are better ladder then tournament players. I believe Larva is one of those people. I like to see how players perform in tournament settings before I make my judgements, but again that's just my preference. It is very exciting that Effort is translating his performance on stream to results in the tournament setting. I have no doubt he is in competition for the top Zerg spot. I hope he can solve ZvT in a more consistent manor then Modesty who has all but fallen off the map since his run early last year. I also agree with your statements about Zero's mentality. This is a problem he hasn't solved since KESPA days. Indeed! The post-KeSPA/Afreeca scene really needs a few reliable ZvT counters... not sure how hard Sea and/or EffOrt prepared for this small tournament, but presumably they played their best. It was great to see ZerO performing so well against sSak the other day at TTSL, hoping more unique and non-FS maps enable a more contentious ZvT match-up | ||
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