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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
March 03 2015 14:56 GMT
#301
Well, for someone who's open to all-in games, games 1 and 4 were really entertaining. I like that Kwanro put his style to work but even YellOw who is know for low econ games can do macro games really well too. Disappointed that Kwanro didn't put work into it and stuck to the flowchart.

Still, happy for Mind!!!! 박성균!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2 time champion!!!
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
LRM)TechnicS
Profile Joined May 2008
Bulgaria1565 Posts
March 03 2015 23:25 GMT
#302
On March 02 2015 07:01 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2015 20:52 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
pls bring back the good ol' show spoiler results in OP

Under results, there's a spoiler labelled "Liquipedia Bracket". Click on that

Yes i know. But with the old way i could see in an instant who is the winner of each exact set and on which map they played. It was much faster and convenient imo. Now i just skip checking threads for scores
Enjoy the game
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
March 04 2015 00:00 GMT
#303
On March 04 2015 08:25 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2015 07:01 Elyvilon wrote:
On March 01 2015 20:52 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
pls bring back the good ol' show spoiler results in OP

Under results, there's a spoiler labelled "Liquipedia Bracket". Click on that

Yes i know. But with the old way i could see in an instant who is the winner of each exact set and on which map they played. It was much faster and convenient imo. Now i just skip checking threads for scores
Indeed. Added complexity does not always make things better.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
March 04 2015 04:22 GMT
#304
One single defiler made in a 5 game TvZ series, interesting
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 15:31:31
March 04 2015 15:30 GMT
#305
welp I don't mind cheeses at all (it's the Kong starleague after all)

But man some of Kwanro's follow ups were so sloppy :/

Plus I just got bunker rushed 2 times in a row in my DRIT game. I blame Mind.
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vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
March 05 2015 07:47 GMT
#306
Damn. Kwanro really could not deal with the bunker rushes, and when he got to play a game and do what he wanted to, he just went for silly all ins.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
March 08 2015 08:02 GMT
#307
Goofy games
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
March 08 2015 21:31 GMT
#308
Please, someone renew by updating Mind's wikiTL page by adding KSL 1st place to his accomplishments. I don't know how to do, so don't ask me to do this by myself.
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_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-09 21:52:52
March 09 2015 09:29 GMT
#309
i cant believe how bad kwanro lost game 4, that was like the the fail of the year or maybe more than a year coz i cant remember such thing in past years, it was like both hiuk and jaehoon spirits joined forces and go into the mind of kwanro.
Its like what happens when two D- iccup players play a game with little to no understanding of what your opponent can do to you and u can have a crazy twists just like that.

After watching the other games, i can say im highly dissapointed by Mind, if his best matchup is all cheese, then this talks real bad about him. I was rooting for him as i liked his solid playstyle, but what i saw was none of this. Kwanro play was much greater and i switched sides after game 3, too bad he didnt manage to beat that cheesy ass.
Luv ya BroodWar!
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
March 16 2015 13:50 GMT
#310
This series (and maybe the tournament generally) was pretty good at making StarCraft feel lifeless. Several times the commentators cheers felt really forced.

For Mind vs Kwanro specifically, there's no problem at all that Mind did very safe bunker rushes each game. I think it was a little predictable, but I understand that it's easier to prepare for the early game than for the late, and that a best of 7 series when you have a very casual practice environment is kind of forcing your hand. I also totally forgive micro errors or little lapses in macro and other not perfect stuff. But what really disappointed me is strategic failures that should just be second nature to the players with so much experience. Killing 8 drones and then skimping on defense when all you need to do is not die to a ling counter. Or going 5 base greedlord with guardian tech when your opponent is on one base and all you need is a decent number of lurker ling or normal timed defilers. That's stuff their coaches would yell at them about if they still had them.

IMO KSL had games that were like 0.5% of the glory of the pro days of BW, and SSL had games that were more like 40%.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19300 Posts
March 16 2015 15:07 GMT
#311
I agree chef. Considering the name recognition of players going into this tournament, it really was a bust in terms of high level and exciting games. Other then Mong vs Zero, no series is really memorable. I hope that the higher brood war interest will help motivate players to step it up in the next KSL.
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