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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
December 20 2006 00:58 GMT
#661
On December 20 2006 02:34 GoBOXERgogo wrote:
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On December 20 2006 02:33 G.s)NarutO wrote:
the REAL yellow would have handeled that
Fakeyellow>Real


Blasphemer! You deserve to be burnt and tortured and boiled and skinned and decapitated. and... also de-testicle-ed.

On December 20 2006 02:36 GoBOXERgogo wrote:
If either of you had to pick one of them to play for your life now, you'd pick the real one? :D


Yes.

ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
cravy
Profile Joined October 2006
United States525 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-20 00:59:52
December 20 2006 00:58 GMT
#662
I think if you look at some of the live reports about Savior owning Midas early on... He was... But if the VOD goes up on tracker, a big problem was like Midas was shown 1% of the time. The camera always followed Savior's army around and so it was hard to get a good sense of how much stuff Midas was working with. Really amazing game though. And I did horrible, 3/6 -_-
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
December 20 2006 01:06 GMT
#663
I don't know if it's been posted yet, but there's a torrent up at http://www.yaoyuan.com/show.php?SID=50058

Pretty fast, too.
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
December 20 2006 01:06 GMT
#664
On December 20 2006 03:31 SayGG wrote:
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On December 20 2006 03:23 Manifesto7 wrote:
On December 20 2006 03:21 SayGG wrote:
T >> Z map, the only reason Midas stood a chance in the first half of the game, imo.


umm,. the map was raping midas for the first half of the game.


Midas clearly had the edge at this point. It was a typical Maestro game: 4base vs 2base, Muta harrass was quite successful (not overwhelming, but ok) and he then had an giant lurker ling army and defilers were ready.

Normally Savior ends these kind of games within 5-10 mins by pure ownage.

But somehow he didnt mange to transform his advantage into a win. And I didnt see That big micro mistakes from Savior. (After he didnt succed, there were some. He just threw troops at Midas army, correct.)

So thats why I assume its a T>´Z map. I think any other zerg will have an even harder time on hitch hiker.


Your argument reads like this:

SaviOr's build is invincible unless a) he makes a mistake or b) the map sucks for him.

No build should be that strong, and I don't think SaviOr's build is. Midas played well to counter. It is a defeatable build if SaviOr's opponent knows what he's doing.
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leviathan400
Profile Joined November 2006
United Kingdom393 Posts
December 20 2006 01:24 GMT
#665
On December 20 2006 10:06 SonuvBob wrote:
I don't know if it's been posted yet, but there's a torrent up at http://www.yaoyuan.com/show.php?SID=50058

Pretty fast, too.

Thank you. Will be getting Midas vs Savior.
:o
Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
December 20 2006 01:42 GMT
#666
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SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-20 01:49:26
December 20 2006 01:48 GMT
#667
LOL shut up. Nada vs Xellos is not 3-0 bullshit.
Nada did 3-0 GF but Xellos's TvT has changed a lot, as has Nada's.
It's not that simple man...

And Midas won because Midas is made of solid Steel. You do not pass The Midas. You run into and splatter like Savior did.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
Polemarch
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada1564 Posts
December 20 2006 02:02 GMT
#668
6/6, woo
I BELIEVE IN CAPITAL LETTER PUNISHMENT!!!!!
Vo-
Profile Joined November 2004
United States435 Posts
December 20 2006 02:05 GMT
#669
Ahaha where's your douche bag savior now?

Fanboys piss me off.
Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
December 20 2006 02:16 GMT
#670
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cravy
Profile Joined October 2006
United States525 Posts
December 20 2006 02:26 GMT
#671
On December 20 2006 10:42 Wasabi wrote:
3/4 Yooi lol

GJ Midas. I like you now.

An advice to the TvT games when it involves Nada, Xellos, and oov:
In a bo1, anyone can beat whoever, though Oov > Nada > Xellos > oov still applies generally.
In a bo3, nada > xellos 2-0, oov > nada 2-1, xellos > oov 2-1 more often than not.
in a bo5, Nada > Xellos 3-0 (yes, Xellos just doesn't cope with Nada's TvT style at all), Oov > Nada 3-2, Xellos > oov 3-1


Where did these stats come from? A excel spreadsheet you made with those stats on it? -_-
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fig_newbie
Profile Joined March 2006
749 Posts
December 20 2006 02:31 GMT
#672
On December 20 2006 11:26 cravy wrote:
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On December 20 2006 10:42 Wasabi wrote:
3/4 Yooi lol

GJ Midas. I like you now.

An advice to the TvT games when it involves Nada, Xellos, and oov:
In a bo1, anyone can beat whoever, though Oov > Nada > Xellos > oov still applies generally.
In a bo3, nada > xellos 2-0, oov > nada 2-1, xellos > oov 2-1 more often than not.
in a bo5, Nada > Xellos 3-0 (yes, Xellos just doesn't cope with Nada's TvT style at all), Oov > Nada 3-2, Xellos > oov 3-1


Where did these stats come from? A excel spreadsheet you made with those stats on it?
-_-


guys its a general rule of thumb. nada has been known to beat oov occasionally but their historical record is skewed waaay in favor of oov. and xellos has been nada's punching bag since...forever.
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oshibori_probe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2933 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-20 02:45:52
December 20 2006 02:44 GMT
#673
this osl is going to blow ass, no protoss. zvz with a few tvz and a tvt here and there

and theres a thing called the on game net curse, nada will loose in groups
Fuck KeSPA.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
December 20 2006 03:02 GMT
#674
On December 20 2006 11:16 Wasabi wrote:
Please, tell me one time Xellos has ever won a bo3/bo5 against Nada. WCG? Like anyone can beat everyone in there.

I know you're a Xellos fanboy but don't let it get in the way.


When did Nada 3-0 Xellos? I don't even think they played a Bo5. I can't even remember the last time they played. It's not as simple as XvY = A wins vs B Losses. That TvT cycle is pretty broken with emergences like people like GF, Casy, Midas, Iris etc.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-20 03:16:52
December 20 2006 03:15 GMT
#675
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Addicted`To`Zerg
Profile Joined August 2004
Bulgaria1353 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-20 03:25:46
December 20 2006 03:22 GMT
#676
actually nada has played xellos two times in last two years :

2005-10-01 XellOs[yG] > Nada (Neo Forte)
2006-09-14 XellOs[yG] > NaDa (Sin Peaks of Baekdu)

edit : in 2004 the record is :
nada 5 > 3 xellos
Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
December 20 2006 03:25 GMT
#677
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GaG[SharKy]
Profile Joined November 2006
New Zealand221 Posts
December 20 2006 03:42 GMT
#678
just thought id share my 2 cents with regards to the midas and savior game. i was kinda annoyed at the reports where alot of posters were saying how good savior was doing, and that he was owning midas, he had the whole map etc, and that midas had no chance.... who won? end of story..not that im a big fan of midas nor savior
Detonate
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Iceland578 Posts
December 20 2006 03:51 GMT
#679
god ive been getting all the liquibets wrong lately, just dropped like 50 ranks cuz of these
inept @ west always up for TMM and 1vs1. TLT3 goGOgOG
YoUr_KiLLeR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States3420 Posts
December 20 2006 04:39 GMT
#680
On December 20 2006 12:42 GaG[SharKy] wrote:
just thought id share my 2 cents with regards to the midas and savior game. i was kinda annoyed at the reports where alot of posters were saying how good savior was doing, and that he was owning midas, he had the whole map etc, and that midas had no chance.... who won? end of story..not that im a big fan of midas nor savior

shut up, the reporters tell it how it looks, and it definitely looked like savior was dominating midas. don't bash the live reporters.
what the fuck do you have to say for yourself now you protoss jackass can you retaliate in any way
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