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tSn Brood War Cup - Open Tournament Feb 27-28 - Page 3

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DjKniteX
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States243 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-18 21:22:06
February 18 2015 21:12 GMT
#41
Alright time is settled! Feburary 27-28 1:00 PM CST

Also updated the prizepool!

Also, is there any way I can edit the events on the right side? I submitted them already D:
"You know my methods.... Apply them"
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19307 Posts
February 19 2015 00:17 GMT
#42
On February 19 2015 06:12 DjKniteX wrote:
Alright time is settled! Feburary 27-28 1:00 PM CST

Also updated the prizepool!

Also, is there any way I can edit the events on the right side? I submitted them already D:

PM me if you ever need calender event edits. Ill take care of it. :D
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
February 19 2015 12:21 GMT
#43
First of all thanks for hosting a BW tournament.

I have a question regarding the format. You say its a "5 round swiss". What does that exactly mean?
I always thought swiss means everyone plays everyone as it is done in football/soccer leagues etc.
The tournament has 17 players registered, that would mean every player would need to play 16 games.
17*16 = 272 games. That can't possibly be right.

If "5 round swiss" means that a player just plays 5 games instead of 16, then who decides WHICH 5 players he faces?
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GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
February 19 2015 13:06 GMT
#44
On February 19 2015 21:21 MasterReY wrote:
First of all thanks for hosting a BW tournament.

I have a question regarding the format. You say its a "5 round swiss". What does that exactly mean?
I always thought swiss means everyone plays everyone as it is done in football/soccer leagues etc.
The tournament has 17 players registered, that would mean every player would need to play 16 games.
17*16 = 272 games. That can't possibly be right.

If "5 round swiss" means that a player just plays 5 games instead of 16, then who decides WHICH 5 players he faces?


It's 5 rounds, basically like this - if I understood it correctly:

Round 1: games are set randomly, no particular order behind it. With 17 players, one receives a walk over.
Round 2: the winners play the winners, losers play the losers, someone receives a w.o., but no idea who (cause no opponent)
Round 3: winners of Round 2 play Winners of Round 2, Losers of Round 2 winners of Round 2 with a loss in Round 1, losers of Round 2, losers of Round 2
Round 4 & 5: same procedure

Further restriction: You may only play one player once, not twice

Sounds complicated, but isn't. The general idea is that whoever wins plays someone who wins equally, or if you constantly lose, you only play other losers. People are matched per round in consideration of their previous records. In the end you have a table like:

1. 5 wins, 0 losses
2. 5 wins, 0 losses
3. 4 wins, 1 loss
...
17. 0 wins, 5 losses

It's a more forgiving format than randomly drawn groups, or eliminiation grids, as you always get a second chance.
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-19 15:53:36
February 19 2015 15:52 GMT
#45
On February 19 2015 22:06 GeckoXp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 21:21 MasterReY wrote:
First of all thanks for hosting a BW tournament.

I have a question regarding the format. You say its a "5 round swiss". What does that exactly mean?
I always thought swiss means everyone plays everyone as it is done in football/soccer leagues etc.
The tournament has 17 players registered, that would mean every player would need to play 16 games.
17*16 = 272 games. That can't possibly be right.

If "5 round swiss" means that a player just plays 5 games instead of 16, then who decides WHICH 5 players he faces?


It's 5 rounds, basically like this - if I understood it correctly:

Round 1: games are set randomly, no particular order behind it. With 17 players, one receives a walk over.
Round 2: the winners play the winners, losers play the losers, someone receives a w.o., but no idea who (cause no opponent)
Round 3: winners of Round 2 play Winners of Round 2, Losers of Round 2 winners of Round 2 with a loss in Round 1, losers of Round 2, losers of Round 2
Round 4 & 5: same procedure

Further restriction: You may only play one player once, not twice

Sounds complicated, but isn't. The general idea is that whoever wins plays someone who wins equally, or if you constantly lose, you only play other losers. People are matched per round in consideration of their previous records. In the end you have a table like:

1. 5 wins, 0 losses
2. 5 wins, 0 losses
3. 4 wins, 1 loss
...
17. 0 wins, 5 losses

It's a more forgiving format than randomly drawn groups, or eliminiation grids, as you always get a second chance.


Hm from your description it totally sounds like a normal bracket with losers bracket:
Round 1: randomly generated bracket
Round 2: losers dropped to losers bracket and play other losers there. Winner play winners in the main bracket
Round 3:
Those who have 1-1 stats play each other (those who dropped to losers bracket in round 2, but won first round and those who dropped to losers bracket in round 1 and won their game there).
Those who have 2-0 play each other (players who stayed in main bracket).
The only difference i see is that the players with two losses (0-2 stats) dont drop out completely but there is a "losers bracket of the losers bracket" and so on in further rounds.
Apart from that its the same^^.
But thanks for the explanation anyways
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DjKniteX
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States243 Posts
February 21 2015 23:56 GMT
#46
Alright guys to not be in the way of the A/B tour, I'm moving the play-offs one week so the top 8 will battle on March 6! This will give the players one week to practice and able to compete in the other tours that are within that time :D
"You know my methods.... Apply them"
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany912 Posts
February 23 2015 16:01 GMT
#47
Could you clean up the OP? You stated 6 dates for the 2-day tour.
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DjKniteX
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States243 Posts
February 23 2015 18:18 GMT
#48
On February 24 2015 01:01 Cryoc wrote:
Could you clean up the OP? You stated 6 dates for the 2-day tour.


Edited & Fixed!
"You know my methods.... Apply them"
sas.ZaRaki
Profile Joined March 2012
Spain199 Posts
February 23 2015 20:12 GMT
#49
is 1 pm cst = 20:00 cet ? im a bit lost
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6639 Posts
February 23 2015 23:42 GMT
#50
On February 24 2015 05:12 sas.ZaRaki wrote:
is 1 pm cst = 20:00 cet ? im a bit lost

That's right.
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LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
February 24 2015 00:55 GMT
#51
1st Day (Friday, Feburary 27) - 1:00PM CST (might be live streamed)
6 Round Swiss Elimination (bo1)
Top 8 to play in the playoffs

2nd day (Friday, March 6 - livestreamed - 1:00PM CST
Top 8 (bo3)
finals (bo5)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Do users must come on that time to play?
The time and date seem not good to me.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
dr0pship
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada520 Posts
February 24 2015 03:32 GMT
#52
Korean IP addresses allowed?
DjKniteX
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States243 Posts
February 24 2015 07:25 GMT
#53
Open tournament to all! I'll fix the OP to add in times from different timezones too!
"You know my methods.... Apply them"
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19307 Posts
February 24 2015 12:43 GMT
#54
Oh snap! 9heart is going to wipe the floor!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
trutaCz
Profile Joined October 2011
Poland686 Posts
February 24 2015 18:37 GMT
#55
On February 24 2015 09:55 LaStScan wrote:
1st Day (Friday, Feburary 27) - 1:00PM CST (might be live streamed)
6 Round Swiss Elimination (bo1)
Top 8 to play in the playoffs

2nd day (Friday, March 6 - livestreamed - 1:00PM CST
Top 8 (bo3)
finals (bo5)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Do users must come on that time to play?
The time and date seem not good to me.



Don't come, so i win -_-
yo~.~
dr0pship
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada520 Posts
February 25 2015 00:47 GMT
#56
On February 24 2015 21:43 BisuDagger wrote:
Oh snap! 9heart is going to wipe the floor!


No, Scan is going to wipe the floor.

Yoo Seung Gon hwaiting!
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11591 Posts
February 25 2015 03:25 GMT
#57
what channel? my friend wants to play.
Calendar@ Fish Server: `iOps]..Stark
DjKniteX
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States243 Posts
February 25 2015 04:16 GMT
#58
It will probably be in the channel op Team Sky Nite. If I can be on the PC at the time I would want to do check ins by BW but if not (I'll be on the road) I would like to have people check in using the chat box on the tSn website.

For now, I want to keep it as whoever shows up can play rather than schedule a match (at least not for this cup)
"You know my methods.... Apply them"
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 18:57:21
February 27 2015 18:48 GMT
#59
edit: oops nothing.. It was a preview bracket.
fearthequeen
Profile Joined November 2011
United States788 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 18:58:03
February 27 2015 18:57 GMT
#60
edit: edit
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