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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
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Peeano
Netherlands5178 Posts
In the end it also made me wonder if he might have forgotten to research range and might have been using his mm as though they had range. | ||
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_Animus_
Bulgaria1064 Posts
On the other hand Larva was calm as boss and his play was crazy risky. My guess is part of the reason is the experienced BJ's became familliar with being alone and counting on themselves, while all of the current ex-pros are being with a team and coaches for back up untill recently and the more instabile persons cant cope with the pressure like Zero for instance. | ||
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ShloobeR
Korea (South)3819 Posts
On January 03 2015 22:53 _Animus_ wrote: really enjoyed Mind vs Larva. Its funny how the experienced pro players got outclassed by the underdogz excluding Rock. Also it seemed that they were more nervous despite the experience. Bisu looked really concerned and incomfortable, maybe even unconfident because we saw he didnt played standart. On the other hand Larva was calm as boss and his play was crazy risky. My guess is part of the reason is the experienced BJ's became familliar with being alone and counting on themselves, while all of the current ex-pros are being with a team and coaches for back up untill recently and the more instabile persons cant cope with the pressure like Zero for instance. Did we watch the same Larva vs Mind game? :x Larva looked like he completely lost his composure with his muta micro. Mind looked... kind of calm, like he always does. | ||
c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
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ShloobeR
Korea (South)3819 Posts
I remember watching his ZvP when he was on top, it was so nasty | ||
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_Animus_
Bulgaria1064 Posts
On January 03 2015 23:30 ShloobeR wrote: Did we watch the same Larva vs Mind game? :x Larva looked like he completely lost his composure with his muta micro. Mind looked... kind of calm, like he always does. Mind was knowing exactly what Larva is doing and prepared the perfect base layout and marine medic placement for "welcoming" Larva's mutas. Larva just got trapped, i dont see any critical micro mistakes. After that Larva easily secured a third base with great surround and lurker timing, then the game became wild with that crazy basetrade move, he almost made it. Game was cool. And overall i dont see that many reasons to complain, so many stream viewers used to complain that it became annoying. I just watched hiya vs hero. Basically hero saw marines in front of his base and made defence to be able to attack with mutas, hiya saw mutas and didnt make defence then he died, very silly :D | ||
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
On January 03 2015 21:10 Greg_J wrote: Pretty good clever from PianO realising Sea would be committed to air defence and short on the ground. Making a snap decision to attack and winning the game with it. that wasn't a snap decision lol. that was a very tailored build, even spreading his building placements as far as possible so barracks doesnt get a great scout you don't go three tanks with siege and stop making wraiths in a 2 port on a snap decision | ||
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Mazer
Canada1086 Posts
On January 03 2015 14:11 Sc2ggRise wrote: I'll probably cast this once the VODs are released on twitch if anyone is interested in tuning in. Stream name is risepubgames. edit: found the VODs after a bit of searching. I'll be streaming them tomorrow for those who haven't watched them already and want some commentary to go along with it. I'll try to tune in -- http://www.twitch.tv/risepubgames Broodwar stream tonight 8:30PM EST!! | ||
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
On January 04 2015 02:22 N.geNuity wrote: that wasn't a snap decision lol. that was a very tailored build, even spreading his building placements as far as possible so barracks doesnt get a great scout you don't go three tanks with siege and stop making wraiths in a 2 port on a snap decision Yeah, I liked his plan on that game, make opponent think you are going 2 port but instead use vulnerability caused by that expectation to make tank push. Admittedly, Piano could have intended to go 2 port but change his plans in a snap decision when it was clear Sea had the "information advantage". | ||
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Greg_J
China4409 Posts
On January 04 2015 02:22 N.geNuity wrote: that wasn't a snap decision lol. that was a very tailored build, even spreading his building placements as far as possible so barracks doesnt get a great scout you don't go three tanks with siege and stop making wraiths in a 2 port on a snap decision Maybe snap decision is badly phrased but I don't think PianO had gone into the game planning to make an attack at that point. It looked like he was going to go 2 starports and changed when Sea scouted it to me. But maybe he did mean it and the 2 ports where intended to fake out the oponent as well as me. I'll watch the game again at some point. I frequently get things wrong and don't mind admiting that. I love watching the games but have never played Broodwar to any remotely competitive level so it's quite likely I see things differently and probablly often incorectly compared to more expereinced players of the game. I'm just so happy with have some high stakes Broodwar to watch again and that we are here discussing and talking about the game again. | ||
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_Animus_
Bulgaria1064 Posts
On January 04 2015 05:03 Greg_J wrote: Maybe snap decision is badly phrased but I don't think PianO had gone into the game planning to make an attack at that point. It looked like he was going to go 2 starports and changed when Sea scouted it to me. But maybe he did mean it and the 2 ports where intended to fake out the oponent as well as me. I'll watch the game again at some point. I frequently get things wrong and don't mind admiting that. I love watching the games but have never played Broodwar to any remotely competitive level so it's quite likely I see things differently and probablly often incorectly compared to more expereinced players of the game. I'm just so happy with have some high stakes Broodwar to watch again and that we are here discussing and talking about the game again. Could be both, only Piano can tell, i hope the intervew will have that question answered. What i saw is that he stopped SCV production i think after his 2 ports got ready, so he wasnt planing a long game for sure. | ||
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Stratos
Czech Republic6104 Posts
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fastluck
United States22 Posts
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Sc2ggRise
United States607 Posts
On January 04 2015 06:21 fastluck wrote: Will there be any VODs with English casting? I know I saw Sayle and BisuDagger saying they'd do commentating but is there copyright stuff keeping it from going up in VOD form? Well, I'm going to live stream it tonight on twitch (the first 4 matches at least) and probably post it on youtube. It's possible that it will be taken down but I would think they would appreciate any exposure as long as we link back to them. I guess we'll find out! | ||
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fastluck
United States22 Posts
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
On January 04 2015 05:03 Greg_J wrote: Maybe snap decision is badly phrased but I don't think PianO had gone into the game planning to make an attack at that point. It looked like he was going to go 2 starports and changed when Sea scouted it to me. But maybe he did mean it and the 2 ports where intended to fake out the oponent as well as me. I'll watch the game again at some point. mmmm good points though. I still feel he had a really low scv count so I feel like it was his plan from the beginning, but maybe he was going to commit to the 2 port then changed when sea scouted. Either way I feel he was pulling some low scv count big attack. of course I'm not Piano though nor a gosu/expert, so I can't really tell. Just a forumite >.> | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19295 Posts
On January 04 2015 06:21 fastluck wrote: Will there be any VODs with English casting? I know I saw Sayle and BisuDagger saying they'd do commentating but is there copyright stuff keeping it from going up in VOD form? I didn't upload to YouTube but my latest vod covers the latest games. | ||
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Stratos
Czech Republic6104 Posts
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Sc2ggRise
United States607 Posts
On January 04 2015 09:05 fastluck wrote: Cool, please share the youtube links if you post it. Link: + Show Spoiler + The rest of the videos should be listed in the viewing window above this one. | ||
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