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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
Movie is also in S.C team. Please put the team tag for Movie. Thanks. On January 10 2015 01:21 Cambium wrote: it is a huge mess, i'll update the liquipedia when i get some free time with results | ||
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XenOsky
Chile2278 Posts
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prech
United States2948 Posts
On January 13 2015 03:27 LaStScan wrote: Hello, could you please fix the flag of mine? I am not Chinese. Movie is also in S.C team. Please put the team tag for Movie. Thanks. Would you like to  revise it per your preference or for accuracy's sake?  Might you also add more game details, like who won each game? I briefly compiled the Ro32 final standings from threads like this: http://bbs.scntv.com/thread-121275-1-1.html | ||
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
sziky fighting! 13 Jan 2014 2000CST Group A Zhanhun(P) Jedi(Z) Mihu(T) Sziky(Z) Stream: http://twitch.tv/bgvrtc should restream like in past matches VOD: http://i.youku.com/chinaosl | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On January 13 2015 04:20 prech wrote: Would you like to revise it per your preference or for accuracy's sake? Might you also add more game details, like who won each game? I briefly compiled the Ro32 final standings from threads like this: http://bbs.scntv.com/thread-121275-1-1.html re that wiki page, is there any reason why we have the chinese players ids in Chinese rather than pinyin? Having Chinese characters is hardly helpful or useful to most of the reads of liquipedia if it's just a copy and paste job, i can make the changes | ||
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s_k_911
China362 Posts
16--------->>>>>>>>>>>>>8： A： zhanhun,Jedi,mihu,Sziky(20:00,13rd,Jan,2015,CST) B： Zdy,Zero,Guoqian,Movie(20:00,14th,Jan,2015,CST) C：Modesty,chaoshen,AP,FJ(20:00,16th,Jan,2015,CST) D：Dj_evan,helios(aka leilei),fengzi,Pure(20:00,18th,Jan,2015,CST) | ||
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prech
United States2948 Posts
On January 13 2015 09:54 Cambium wrote: re that wiki page, is there any reason why we have the chinese players ids in Chinese rather than pinyin? Having Chinese characters is hardly helpful or useful to most of the reads of liquipedia if it's just a copy and paste job, i can make the changes Yea I basically copy/pasted from Birdie's original input @ http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/China_OSL_5/Preliminaries I think Pinyin works too. Either one would be helpful to identify some of those players without LP pages Thanks for the contributions | ||
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
Group B: 1st Zero, 2nd Movie Group C: 1st Modesty, 2nd Chaoshen Group D: 1st Pure, 2nd Fengzi On January 13 2015 09:59 s_k_911 wrote: forcast: 16--------->>>>>>>>>>>>>8： A： zhanhun,Jedi,mihu,Sziky(20:00,13rd,Jan,2015,CST) B： Zdy,Zero,Guoqian,Movie(20:00,14th,Jan,2015,CST) C：Modesty,chaoshen,AP,FJ(20:00,16th,Jan,2015,CST) D：Dj_evan,helios(aka leilei),fengzi,Pure(20:00,18th,Jan,2015,CST) | ||
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
I am not wishing to sziky to get DQed. From my own experience, Mihu's Internet is not great. I had a lot of trouble with him in the past in VS server. Good luck in Ro16 today. It might be tough group for you because of the lag issue. On January 13 2015 04:17 XenOsky- wrote: i hope Sziky can get into the ro4 :D! | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On January 13 2015 11:34 prech wrote: Yea I basically copy/pasted from Birdie's original input @ http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/China_OSL_5/Preliminaries I think Pinyin works too. Either one would be helpful to identify some of those players without LP pages Thanks for the contributions all done. also changed helios to leilei, which is by far more popular | ||
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
I think it would be more fair if the foreigner vs chinese match is played on a more neutral venue where the connection is even for both parties (iccup or fish). But first and foremost its their own competition after all, so they have the only say on the rules. | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On January 13 2015 15:59 Probemicro wrote: Given how 2 people have already been DQ for "lag", it won't reflect well for the Chinese scene if sziky is DQ for same reason as well. I think it would be more fair if the foreigner vs chinese match is played on a more neutral venue where the connection is even for both parties (iccup or fish). But first and foremost its their own competition after all, so they have the only say on the rules. I'm not sure how VS differs from iccup or fish with its VPN magic and whatnot, but the key problem here is the Chinese internet itself, and that is outside of anyone's control. If sziky is DQ'd due to lag, the organizers will see inviting foreigners as a failed attempt, and will simple cease to do so in the future. My understanding is that, the server matters very little, because it only links the clients together, and the connection is established directly between the clients without needing to go through the server (if someone knows for sure, let me know if this is incorrect). | ||
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
i mean if theres no other option theres no incentive for foreigners to join anymore. there are already people like scan that shell out cash for VPN to connect and still get DQ for "lag"? like really EDIT: oh and btw, i recall a COSL showmatch cup between 2 koreans (Pure and Zero i think?). Was played on VS intially and there was lag for both parties until Dingdang switched to fish server for regame, and the game was much smoother then so the server does matter when it comes to connections. | ||
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GeckoXp
Germany2016 Posts
On January 13 2015 16:50 Probemicro wrote: what about having a "neutral" observer to host the game? someone based in korea/outside of china maybe. i mean if theres no other option theres no incentive for foreigners to join anymore. there are already people like scan that shell out cash for VPN to connect and still get DQ for "lag"? like really EDIT: oh and btw, i recall a COSL showmatch cup between 2 koreans (Pure and Zero i think?). Was played on VS intially and there was lag for both parties until Dingdang switched to fish server for regame, and the game was much smoother then so the server does matter when it comes to connections. Can't really say for VPN, haven't tried it. Servers really don't matter though, at least FISH/ICCup and if you talk about actually playing, since it's p2p once you left the lobby from what I understand. The launchers might be important though, since LanLat is required and needs a plug-in. Other than that, I wouldn't talk so bad about the Chinese scene after all. It's probably difficult enough to manage a large league without trying to find tech fixes and other work arounds for foreigners as new side project. Hence, it's reasonable to outsource these things to the players directly, as much as it sucks for them. Also, "we" did similar things to "the Chinese" in earlier events - I remember some Nation Wars / Clan Leagues not too long ago, for which Chinese players were left out on purpose due to lag issues. Defiler excluded some of the Korean FISH Anons for a reason as well - they're not part of our scene and they never tried to really have contact with us, unless money was involved. See it as first steps. Maybe in the future it gets better if all parties involved work on it in between ongoing seasons. During an event last second fixes are just not doable. | ||
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LRM)INF3cted
Bulgaria242 Posts
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
zhanhun 2:0 jedi + Show Spoiler [sziky vs muhu] + sziky 2:0 mihu + Show Spoiler [winners' match] + sziky 0:1 zhanhun -> zhanhun advances to RO8 + Show Spoiler [losers' match] + mihu forfeits + Show Spoiler [final match] + | ||
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
The scourges suicide to an archon was also painful to watch  | ||
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DarkNetHunter
1224 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Sziky advances! Question is now if 2nd Place of Group A plays against first place of Group B or first place of Group C or D. If Sziky can dodge the Korean protosses and get into favourable ZvZs he has a chance at getting into ro4! | ||
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
Anyway congrats for advancing! | ||
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
There should be a VOD of him saying like that to me. On January 13 2015 16:50 Probemicro wrote: what about having a "neutral" observer to host the game? someone based in korea/outside of china maybe. i mean if theres no other option theres no incentive for foreigners to join anymore. there are already people like scan that shell out cash for VPN to connect and still get DQ for "lag"? like really EDIT: oh and btw, i recall a COSL showmatch cup between 2 koreans (Pure and Zero i think?). Was played on VS intially and there was lag for both parties until Dingdang switched to fish server for regame, and the game was much smoother then so the server does matter when it comes to connections. | ||
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