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DarK]N[exuS
Profile Joined April 2006
China1441 Posts
October 23 2006 20:09 GMT
#41
of ourse he's not at that level, and as everyone has been saying, the games merely show the potential to reach that level.
Where joy exists despair will always beckon.
REAl4eVeR
Profile Joined March 2004
Germany187 Posts
October 23 2006 20:28 GMT
#42
I believe if he keeps up practicing he will do fine in Korea. At least we need a new foreigner fighting in the Proleagues no?


Draco fighting!
Today is a good day to die......
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33723 Posts
October 23 2006 21:08 GMT
#43
On October 23 2006 23:12 Kaolla wrote:
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rofl yea Cobo is world class... those idiots (along with all of you here) really are blindfolded...
why lie to yourself?!
draco didnt play world class he played semi ok almost losing games where he had great great advantage... (or even losing it)

Well, Cobo is actually pretty good at PvT I think, you should watch his other games - definitely not a bad player.

Anyway, Draco's opening was great, Cobo's opening was great, draco's follow up was.. questionable (attacking midas first push, I think he should have checked it first, expoing to the center expo when he had seen midas' gigantic army and knew he couldn't hold etc).

But what do you expect, he was about to beat a top ranking progamer in an important tournament for the first time - he's allowed to be nervous.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33723 Posts
October 23 2006 21:10 GMT
#44
On October 24 2006 00:57 TearsOfTheSun wrote:
i really really wish satanik could have gone to WCG last year or year before when he trained MASS on PGT... i think he could have given the koreans a run for their money... anyone agree? disagree? i think its a good topic anyone else who didn't go to WCG could have done well too??

He could have beaten foru I guess : > But I don't give him any chances vs the korean terrans or zergs.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Vin{MBL}
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
5185 Posts
October 23 2006 21:41 GMT
#45
oh my god gogogo draco

but how no one is talking about his pimp play when he

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stasis fielded two goliaths blocking midas' ramp which basically won him the game IMO


Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
October 23 2006 22:37 GMT
#46
On October 23 2006 20:44 Manifesto7 wrote:
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Thanks for contributing.


I went into automated banlist with hoping..

Toasted_Zergling was just Temp banned for 1 week by Manifesto7.

That account was created on 2004-04-19 04:12:47 and had 379 posts.

Thank you
Ezekiell
Profile Joined April 2005
Hungary15 Posts
October 23 2006 22:40 GMT
#47
On October 24 2006 06:41 vinsc wrote:
oh my god gogogo draco

but how no one is talking about his pimp play when he

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stasis fielded two goliaths blocking midas' ramp which basically won him the game IMO




Well, i watched that replay with my friends, and the reaction was: "OOOH my f*cking god, that was beautiful!" at that moment.

Anyway, Draco has the potential to be one of the bests, but dont forget: he is in Korea for 3 months, not a huge amount of time. He is a great player at the moment, but he isnt as good as the Korean programmers. Just be patient, and im sure, we will have an other Korean-killer foreigner in the progaming!
Come to the dark side!
KimmoL
Profile Joined December 2004
Norway256 Posts
October 23 2006 22:46 GMT
#48
its nice to see that draco gets alot of support from koreans.. i hope he stay in korean untill he won some league or something
humblegar
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Norway883 Posts
October 23 2006 22:58 GMT
#49
I don't know how people can argue with:

5-0 with Midas and Mondragon (people didn't even expect Midas to go 5-0 here).
2-2 vs Midas and Oov

Almost 2-0 vs Oov

How many foreigners can do that (proxy or not)?

Draco seems like the kind of guy that will keep practicing hard, I would be surprised if he didn't do some kind of impact, at least win some proleague games. But then again I'm a nobody :p
mcmascote
Profile Joined September 2004
Brazil1575 Posts
October 23 2006 23:45 GMT
#50
On October 24 2006 05:09 DarK]N[exuS wrote:
of ourse he's not at that level, and as everyone has been saying, the games merely show the potential to reach that level.


Simple as that.
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roadrunner_sc
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1220 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-10-23 23:47:07
October 23 2006 23:45 GMT
#51
Guys, don't be so quick to dismiss the other top foreigners. Draco did well, but its not something unheard of for guys like Testie, lx, etc.

Here's an example. Any of you guys remember why lx was recruited into SKT1? It was during the China Korea face-off in 2005. As such events usually played out, the Korean powerhouse players steamrolled over most opponents.
Lx's case, was different. In his mirror match up with Kingdom, the game dragged out into an impressively long, well-played macro war, eventually concluding with a draw as neither player had the means to finish the other off. In the game against the emperor, lx went for a cheesy proxy dt tech disguised by fake goon range upgrade. It slowed down Boxer enough so that by the time he finally had a 2nd expo running, and enough vult/tanks to try for his first push, Lx knock on the doorsteps with ~10 carriers and forced the gg.
At the time LX had already established himself as a player with potential for both cheese AND straight up, long macro wars. This was even before he was recruited along with PJ into SKT1. Why he did not cheese against ooV or Midas during this WCG is anyone's guess but it certainly doesn't mean he isn't capable of, or won't be successful if he chose to do so.
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Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
October 24 2006 00:01 GMT
#52
On October 24 2006 08:45 roadrunner_sc wrote:
Guys, don't be so quick to dismiss the other top foreigners. Draco did well, but its not something unheard of for guys like Testie, lx, etc.

Here's an example. Any of you guys remember why lx was recruited into SKT1? It was during the China Korea face-off in 2005. As such events usually played out, the Korean powerhouse players steamrolled over most opponents.
Lx's case, was different. In his mirror match up with Kingdom, the game dragged out into an impressively long, well-played macro war, eventually concluding with a draw as neither player had the means to finish the other off. In the game against the emperor, lx went for a cheesy proxy dt tech disguised by fake goon range upgrade. It slowed down Boxer enough so that by the time he finally had a 2nd expo running, and enough vult/tanks to try for his first push, Lx knock on the doorsteps with ~10 carriers and forced the gg.
At the time LX had already established himself as a player with potential for both cheese AND straight up, long macro wars. This was even before he was recruited along with PJ into SKT1. Why he did not cheese against ooV or Midas during this WCG is anyone's guess but it certainly doesn't mean he isn't capable of, or won't be successful if he chose to do so.


Midas and Oov are his teammates and they are probably very familiar with Lx's cheese strategies. Draco doesn't really play with SKT-1 progamers; Draco practices in the OGN Sparkyz house. Midas and Oov don't know how Draco works and Draco exploited that fully by playing very unpredictably.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
October 24 2006 00:03 GMT
#53
On October 24 2006 00:57 TearsOfTheSun wrote:
i really really wish satanik could have gone to WCG last year or year before when he trained MASS on PGT... i think he could have given the koreans a run for their money... anyone agree? disagree? i think its a good topic anyone else who didn't go to WCG could have done well too??

Sen.
roadrunner_sc
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1220 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-10-24 00:18:47
October 24 2006 00:05 GMT
#54
On October 24 2006 09:01 Mortality wrote:
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Midas and Oov are his teammates and they are probably very familiar with Lx's cheese strategies. Draco doesn't really play with SKT-1 progamers; Draco practices in the OGN Sparkyz house. Midas and Oov don't know how Draco works and Draco exploited that fully by playing very unpredictably.


And they're not familiar with Lx's straight-up games?

Edit: And Lx would certainly know a lot more about Midas and oov's build order/scouting patterns. It's certainly just as possible for him to capitalize on this knowledge with a cheese, as it is for his teammates to defend against it.
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TearsOfTheSun
Profile Joined March 2006
Canada995 Posts
October 24 2006 01:57 GMT
#55
On October 24 2006 09:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
     [removed quote within quote]
Sen.


ooo sen would slay the koreans
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GeLaar
Profile Joined January 2003
2421 Posts
October 24 2006 02:21 GMT
#56
Yea, the win over Midas was even more impressive, as Draco didn't upgrade interceptor numbers the whole game. Anyone else notice that?
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oddeye
Profile Joined March 2005
Canada716 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-10-24 02:30:22
October 24 2006 02:28 GMT
#57
On October 24 2006 11:21 GeLaar wrote:
Yea, the win over Midas was even more impressive, as Draco didn't upgrade interceptor numbers the whole game. Anyone else notice that?

rly? lol that a bad mistake

Edit: Holy shit FA you've got a lot of post ;-P
Your soul shall suffer!
Mr_Pink
Profile Joined September 2006
United States338 Posts
October 24 2006 02:36 GMT
#58
On October 23 2006 20:31 EntertainMe wrote:
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Thanks for your 5-year-old reply! Must have been real difficult to bug your mummy to read that for you!


lol
gG.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
October 24 2006 02:52 GMT
#59
On October 24 2006 10:57 TearsOfTheSun wrote:
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ooo sen would slay the koreans

Not saying he would, but he's definitely up there with draco and testie.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
October 24 2006 03:03 GMT
#60
LX's game vs boxer was beautiful. his game vs kingdom was good but the draw was a bit screwed because of the fanboys.

i don't think he expects to win against his team mates. draco had a lot to prove. if LX use cheese and wins and maybe maybe knock out the koreans then it would not give him anything meaningful except the respect of foreign players. if he actually wins, then most people would just say yeah he beat his team mates. if he doesn't, he still gets number 4 which is good enough to shut up the chinese fans. and the koreans are on a mission here... lol.
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