Background -To try and accommodate some of the blue B-rankers and to try and raise activity, I'll be starting a new league welcoming all ranks up to B-level max. This can be somewhat considered "more prestigious" than the other Starleague I host in the Crimson Starleague, but I'll be paying equal attention to both.
Format -The format for this is separated into a Qualifying Ladder portion, which will last 5 weeks, and then a single elimination, tournament bracket that will last 5 weeks as well.
With the lack of sign-ups, the Qualifying Ladder portion was removed, and the tournament will start into a ODT-style group stage.
DATES: March 8th: End of sign-ups / Round-of-32 draw
March 15th: Round-of-32 Group Stage
March 22nd: Round-of-16
April 5th: Round-of-8
April 12th: Round-of-4
April 19th: Finals/Third Place
The designated dates will be on 18:00 GMT (+00:00) at the channel Op Maroon @ iCCup (TheAbyss)
Sign-up -So, to sign up, first, post in the thread your usual known username, your iCCup ID, your max rank, and race.
Example:
Name: RedAxis iCCup ID: RedAxis Max rank: C- Race: Terran
Maps
The map rotation will be changed every week in accordance to the iCCup Map Of the Weeks (MOTW).[
Due to the inconsistency of the iCCup Map-of-the-Week updates, I will be posting the remaining map rotations for the rest of the tournament.
All the games for the qualifiers must take place on iCCup (TheAbyss). Anti-hack and LAN-latency MUST be on.
If there is ever a conflict in regards to points that the iCCup Admins can't handle, please PM me and I will judge what happens.
You MAY NOT play more than 8 ladder games with the same opponent
Adhere to all iCCup server rules.
Account sharing is prohibited, and if caught, there will be consequences.
Any form of match fixing, cheating, hacking, etc. is prohibited.
Players that wish to off-race will be reviewed case-by-case.
Race-picking is not allowed, meaning a player must play just one race throughout the entire duration of the tournament.
If you choose to clear your stats, do so at your own risk. Your stats/ranking on April 5th will be the only judged statistic.
Transferring stats from another account is prohibited.
Replays must be submitted either via PM to SynC[gm] or via e-mail to maroonstarleague@outlook.com
*Rules subject to change throughout the tourney
Review -To reiterate, the max level for this Starleague is B-rank. Anyone that has achieved B+ rank or higher will not be allowed to participate. As for now, except for rank ineligibility, no one is banned from this Starleague, meaning everyone eligible is allowed to participate, unless either B+ or higher, or blacklisted from the iCCup server.
Make a new iCCup account with the MSL tag, send a request to the Maroon Starleague team, http://www.iccup.com/teams/88445.html, and post in the thread your username. I will not be accepting any requests from players who have not identified themselves in this thread.
On February 15 2014 12:10 puppykiller wrote: I sign up! Though I don't want to take up the spot of a B player since they have less tours so if there is low room you can sub me out for a B player.
Name: Puppykiller ID: Puppykiller Rank: C Race: T
Anyone is capable of qualifying, so everyone should feel free to sign up and try their hand at qualifying and playing. Think of the qualifying portion as basically just laddering with a benefit attached to it.
After D ranks, C crimson and now B maroon, i wonder what is coming next... + Show Spoiler +
And nice qualification mode.
I think i actuall join this...not that i have a chance to qualify, but having a good chance playing lots of games vs really good players for fun and practice... that sounds worth it. Also, due to the rule of max 8 games vs the same opponent, i would play different higher ranked players.... even kidcanada, if he wants some extra points.
...if no one complains about it...which i would understand.
On February 16 2014 06:24 Prodigy.MvP wrote: if a A- player joins the tour, is he banned from teamliquid?
really, why can't you just shut up and be happy you're allowed to play in this...
There needs to be repercussion about rule infringement as having an A rank player in this tournament definitely spoils the spirit of competition.
yeah, nevermind that the guy trying to get other players banned should've been banned himself. You'd think MVP would want to keep a lower profile after cheating in Crimson finals.
On February 15 2014 12:10 puppykiller wrote: I sign up! Though I don't want to take up the spot of a B player since they have less tours so if there is low room you can sub me out for a B player.
Name: Puppykiller ID: Puppykiller Rank: C Race: T
On February 16 2014 02:35 Mewka wrote: Name: Mewka ID: Mewka[AoV] Max rank: C Race: Protoss
On February 16 2014 10:55 Fazers wrote: Name: Fazers ID: Rollout Rank: B- Race: T
You guys are going to have to make a new iCCup account with the tag MSL- in front of your ID's. Afterward, send a request to the MSL iCCup team. http://www.iccup.com/teams/88445.html
On February 16 2014 06:24 Prodigy.MvP wrote: if a A- player joins the tour, is he banned from teamliquid?
really, why can't you just shut up and be happy you're allowed to play in this...
There needs to be repercussion about rule infringement as having an A rank player in this tournament definitely spoils the spirit of competition.
yeah, nevermind that the guy trying to get other players banned should've been banned himself. You'd think MVP would want to keep a lower profile after cheating in Crimson finals.
Although I'm all for keeping cheaters out, I figure this is at least ONE chance to give them one more chance. Also, I doubt a player would get banned from Teamliquid for smurfing into a tourney, but I'll try my best to keep them out.
On February 16 2014 06:24 Prodigy.MvP wrote: if a A- player joins the tour, is he banned from teamliquid?
really, why can't you just shut up and be happy you're allowed to play in this...
There needs to be repercussion about rule infringement as having an A rank player in this tournament definitely spoils the spirit of competition.
yeah, nevermind that the guy trying to get other players banned should've been banned himself. You'd think MVP would want to keep a lower profile after cheating in Crimson finals.
not trying to get anyone banned lol, my friend has hit A- ( long time ago ) and he asked if he would get banned from the tour if he joined since it is surpassing the rank limit, so i just posted it in the thread seems logical right?
On February 16 2014 06:24 Prodigy.MvP wrote: if a A- player joins the tour, is he banned from teamliquid?
really, why can't you just shut up and be happy you're allowed to play in this...
There needs to be repercussion about rule infringement as having an A rank player in this tournament definitely spoils the spirit of competition.
yeah, nevermind that the guy trying to get other players banned should've been banned himself. You'd think MVP would want to keep a lower profile after cheating in Crimson finals.
not trying to get anyone banned lol, my friend has hit A- ( long time ago ) and he asked if he would get banned from the tour if he joined since it is surpassing the rank limit, so i just posted it in the thread seems logical right?
hey, don't mind ppl attacking u on forums. If you know u did nothing wrong just ignore it ;3
On February 16 2014 06:24 Prodigy.MvP wrote: if a A- player joins the tour, is he banned from teamliquid?
really, why can't you just shut up and be happy you're allowed to play in this...
There needs to be repercussion about rule infringement as having an A rank player in this tournament definitely spoils the spirit of competition.
yeah, nevermind that the guy trying to get other players banned should've been banned himself. You'd think MVP would want to keep a lower profile after cheating in Crimson finals.
not trying to get anyone banned lol, my friend has hit A- ( long time ago ) and he asked if he would get banned from the tour if he joined since it is surpassing the rank limit, so i just posted it in the thread seems logical right?
nope, doesn't seem logical at all considering its quite clear you can't participate if you have hit B+ or higher. lol...
On February 18 2014 03:12 SynC[gm] wrote: Any idea who user MSL)Cats_Paw is?
aka. LRM)Cats_Paw. Team player, we used to play Hunters together. He was not above B rank.
Does he not have a Teamliquid account? Is he someone you can vouch for?
I can vouch for him fartsoundguy ;] just kidding. But yea hes a teamplayer
Well, he's going to have to get a Teamliquid account so I can at least somehow get in contact with him. That, and he needs to know exactly what the rules are, and that they're subject to change at any given moment, depending on the situation.
On February 16 2014 06:24 Prodigy.MvP wrote: if a A- player joins the tour, is he banned from teamliquid?
really, why can't you just shut up and be happy you're allowed to play in this...
There needs to be repercussion about rule infringement as having an A rank player in this tournament definitely spoils the spirit of competition.
Yeah because tournaments should reject more skilled players for less skilled player to depreciate incentives for tournament players to improve
You might be missing the point. Right now in the Broodwar scene there is STL, teamleague for the best players. Maroon Starleague seems like it was created to give some competition between the second tier of players (correct me if I'm wrong redaxis). Those not quite good enough to be invited to play STL. Maybe if they show some good results in this league than some STL team will add them to their lineup...seems like incentive enough. But honestly, allowing B+ and higher rank players won't do much for this league because a) C rank and lower will tend to not sign up once they see players joining they know they can't take a single game off b) slim to none of the top BW foreigner will join because the prize pool will be meager at best, they would rather just get better competition by laddering @ fish to prepare for the bigger money in the next STL/other top tier tournaments.
On February 16 2014 06:24 Prodigy.MvP wrote: if a A- player joins the tour, is he banned from teamliquid?
really, why can't you just shut up and be happy you're allowed to play in this...
There needs to be repercussion about rule infringement as having an A rank player in this tournament definitely spoils the spirit of competition.
Yeah because tournaments should reject more skilled players for less skilled player to depreciate incentives for tournament players to improve
You might be missing the point. Right now in the Broodwar scene there is STL, teamleague for the best players. Maroon Starleague seems like it was created to give some competition between the second tier of players (correct me if I'm wrong redaxis). Those not quite good enough to be invited to play STL. Maybe if they show some good results in this league than some STL team will add them to their lineup...seems like incentive enough. But honestly, allowing B+ and higher rank players won't do much for this league because a) C rank and lower will tend to not sign up once they see players joining they know they can't take a single game off b) slim to none of the top BW foreigner will join because the prize pool will be meager at best, they would rather just get better competition by laddering @ fish to prepare for the bigger money in the next STL/other top tier tournaments.
Pretty much. I'm into hosting tournaments for the lower-ranked players to give them the atmosphere of playing in a worthwhile tournament, or league setting, in games that have some meaning in terms of entertainment and exposure. Plus, add in the fact that we could always use more players and viewers to the BW scene.
I could always try and host tournaments for the best-of-the-best, but I don't think I have the name value for something like that. Leagues and tournaments meant for players along the caliber of Sziky and Bizzy are meant to be hosted by Teamliquid in TLS or fellow A players in draW or SBWI with their awesome prize pools and actual organization of admins.
But again, to answer the question of "banning" players that are ineligible but try and smurf, I'll be trying my best to keep them out, but there's no way I can get them personally banned from Teamliquid. o.O Maybe if someone like 2Pac thinks it warrants a ban, but I have no authority to ban anyone anywhere by any means, not even close, lol.
So...C is the lowest rank so far, if i read it correctly, and, according to iccup MSL team, only 8 (maybe 9 with Tenshi) players have put their name in it....
On February 16 2014 06:24 Prodigy.MvP wrote: if a A- player joins the tour, is he banned from teamliquid?
really, why can't you just shut up and be happy you're allowed to play in this...
There needs to be repercussion about rule infringement as having an A rank player in this tournament definitely spoils the spirit of competition.
Yeah because tournaments should reject more skilled players for less skilled player to depreciate incentives for tournament players to improve
You might be missing the point. Right now in the Broodwar scene there is STL, teamleague for the best players. Maroon Starleague seems like it was created to give some competition between the second tier of players (correct me if I'm wrong redaxis). Those not quite good enough to be invited to play STL. Maybe if they show some good results in this league than some STL team will add them to their lineup...seems like incentive enough. But honestly, allowing B+ and higher rank players won't do much for this league because a) C rank and lower will tend to not sign up once they see players joining they know they can't take a single game off b) slim to none of the top BW foreigner will join because the prize pool will be meager at best, they would rather just get better competition by laddering @ fish to prepare for the bigger money in the next STL/other top tier tournaments.
On February 19 2014 02:29 2Pacalypse- wrote: Is ladder stage really necessary with that many players? ^^
Although I'd like one as it would actually force me to play some games.
I was hoping for possibly more players, but I do admit that I should've announced it a bit earlier since sign-ups are only two weeks and that I should've tried and promote it a bit more, but yeah, depending on the number of sign-ups, I might just get rid of the ladder stage and just have the league start right into elimination group stages.
On February 19 2014 14:25 puppykiller wrote: How does someone get C in 11 games is what I want to know...
because people who got b- or higher in a previous season started off as d+/c-/c or whatever in the new season. to balance the ladder or something like that lol
On February 19 2014 02:29 2Pacalypse- wrote: Is ladder stage really necessary with that many players? ^^
Although I'd like one as it would actually force me to play some games.
I was hoping for possibly more players, but I do admit that I should've announced it a bit earlier since sign-ups are only two weeks and that I should've tried and promote it a bit more, but yeah, depending on the number of sign-ups, I might just get rid of the ladder stage and just have the league start right into elimination group stages.
I would actually support a group stages right away just because my Internet is such trash and I don't know if I can play the ladder on a consistent basis. Basically, I disconnect and reconnect so much that Battle.net will say that I lost my connection to the server, which results in ICCup giving me the loss whether or not I win the game. This is a tedious process when I have to constantly protest any undeserved loss on my end.
As a result, I've stopped laddering for the most part nowadays, which will continue to stay this way until I get a new service provider.
Unfortunately, because of the lack of sign-ups, I'm going to have to get rid of the ladder portion of the tournament, and start off with the group stages.
So far, everyone that's signed up and requested to join the iCCup team will be included in the current list of sign-ups. If you don't want to participate in the tournament anymore, feel free to post in the thread. If you want to sign-up but haven't joined the iCCup team, post in the thread.
Because we're in need of 32 players, I'll be extending the final date for signups for another week, meaning sign ups will end at Saturday, Mar 08 10:59am GMT (GMT+00:00).
On February 24 2014 10:10 SynC[gm] wrote: Unfortunately, because of the lack of sign-ups, I'm going to have to get rid of the ladder portion of the tournament, and start off with the group stages.
So far, everyone that's signed up and requested to join the iCCup team will be included in the current list of sign-ups. If you don't want to participate in the tournament anymore, feel free to post in the thread. If you want to sign-up but haven't joined the iCCup team, post in the thread.
Because we're in need of 32 players, I'll be extending the final date for signups for another week, meaning sign ups will end at Saturday, Mar 08 10:59am GMT (GMT+00:00).
Nice, no ladder stages helps me since I can't ladder like I've stated. Can't wait for this! :D
Didn't count Mewka[AoV] since he never sent in an iCCup team request, didn't count iFu.Cryoc since his max rank is B and didn't count Julia since I'm assuming he's off-racing but didn't give me a proper max rank. So far, there's 21 sign-ups, with puppykiller and draW offering to be replacements.
If there aren't 32 signups by a certain period, unfortunately, I'm gonna have to cancel the event since I don't want this event to go into mid-May, or later, since that's when I'll be the busiest with studying for entrance exams and finals, unless the players won't mind a slightly modified bracket with certain players getting byes.
Didn't count Mewka[AoV] since he never sent in an iCCup team request, didn't count iFu.Cryoc since his max rank is B and didn't count Julia since I'm assuming he's off-racing but didn't give me a proper max rank. So far, there's 21 sign-ups, with puppykiller and draW offering to be replacements.
If there aren't 32 signups by a certain period, unfortunately, I'm gonna have to cancel the event since I don't want this event to go into mid-May, or later, since that's when I'll be the busiest with studying for entrance exams and finals, unless the players won't mind a slightly modified bracket with certain players getting byes.
Next time please make a more unambiguous statement regarding max rank. "B-Rankers" and "B-level" sounds like max rank: B.
Didn't count Mewka[AoV] since he never sent in an iCCup team request, didn't count iFu.Cryoc since his max rank is B and didn't count Julia since I'm assuming he's off-racing but didn't give me a proper max rank. So far, there's 21 sign-ups, with puppykiller and draW offering to be replacements.
If there aren't 32 signups by a certain period, unfortunately, I'm gonna have to cancel the event since I don't want this event to go into mid-May, or later, since that's when I'll be the busiest with studying for entrance exams and finals, unless the players won't mind a slightly modified bracket with certain players getting byes.
Next time please make a more unambiguous statement regarding max rank. "B-Rankers" and "B-level" sounds like max rank: B.
Actually, I had a complete brain fart, B- and B level players are allowed, dunno why I said otherwise. My bad, read the OP, forgot I said B+ max is limit.
On February 15 2014 12:02 SynC[gm] wrote: -To reiterate, the max level for this Starleague is B-rank. Anyone that has achieved B+ rank or higher will not be allowed to participate. As for now, except for rank ineligibility, no one is banned from this Starleague, meaning everyone eligible is allowed to participate, unless either B+ or higher, or blacklisted from the iCCup server.
On February 28 2014 10:10 yellowsmile wrote: i am still confused. so is b+ max player allowed to play this?
B+ is not eligible, the max rank is B, which is 7000-7999 points on iCCup. Off-racing is allowed if you want to play with your off-race granted there isn't evidence that the off-race isn't B+ or higher.
On February 28 2014 10:10 yellowsmile wrote: i am still confused. so is b+ max player allowed to play this?
B+ is not eligible, the max rank is B, which is 8000-8999 points on iCCup. Off-racing is allowed if you want to play with your off-race granted there isn't evidence that the off-race isn't B+ or higher.
On February 28 2014 10:10 yellowsmile wrote: i am still confused. so is b+ max player allowed to play this?
B+ is not eligible, the max rank is B, which is 8000-8999 points on iCCup. Off-racing is allowed if you want to play with your off-race granted there isn't evidence that the off-race isn't B+ or higher.
B is 7xxx
Making so many mistakes, my brain is completely fried from all these exams... T_T
On March 01 2014 17:47 Prodigy.MvP wrote: im excited for crimson 3 i will dominate
How are you eligible for Crimson? Your stream description says "B/B+ Canadian Protoss." Matter of fact, B+ too high for this tour too. Looks like you'll have to withdraw your sign up.
On March 01 2014 17:47 Prodigy.MvP wrote: im excited for crimson 3 i will dominate
How are you eligible for Crimson? Your stream description says "B/B+ Canadian Protoss." Matter of fact, B+ too high for this tour too. Looks like you'll have to withdraw your sign up.
He's obviously not B or B+. He has 95-91 C+ 5000 points last season on iccup. No offense, he has improved a lot, but he is not B or B+.
I think letting the B+ A- players play with off races is a bad idea. They have a higher level of skill and understanding of the game with their main races, a lot of them play with off races anyways. Just let the medium level foreigners battle it out.
Right now, sitting at 27 players, 5 slots left. Again, sign-ups end on the 8th! If all 32 slots aren't filled up, some players will be receiving walkover wins in certain sets.
Seeing as there's no ladder element to this anymore (I was worried I wouldn't have enough time for it) and I don't have to make another account (I've run out of emails to use lol) I'd like to sign up, but if anyone better than me ends up wanting to take the slot you can let them have it if you want :o
Name: Qikz ID: n.stOp)Qikz Max Rank: D+ Race: Terran
ToKa, Mewka, SnowFantasy, Qikz.. I'll add you guys to the sign ups, sorry!
The tourney's group drawing is on the 8th, and the event starts on the 15th, but the players are welcome to play anytime from the drawings to the designated date.
Edit: Qikz, you'll be put into the reserve list as there is already 32 players that have signed up. If a player isn't able to be contacted from the 8th to the 15th, and they go MIA, you'll be replacing them, so be sure to stay tuned and check the forums.
That also goes for all of the players, be sure to check the forums on a daily basis to make sure you don't miss anything!
At this point, anyone that signs up will be put into the reserves and will be substituted for anyone that can't/doesn't play. Optimally, I'll be switching players out with identical races.
Name: NrG.Bamboo ID: NrG.Bamboo Max Rank: B+ (currently C or so) Race: Terran
C is just a guess, honestly. I don't have much reason to play anymore, but if I were a part of this league, I'm sure my rank would be anywhere between C-B with practice. I just need something to care about, else I'll just be offracing and dicking around forever.
EDIT: Also, if there is a problem with being a past B+, I can play random/zerg/protoss, each of which are C/C-/B max respectively; it really doesn't matter to me. Starcraft is Starcraft.
On March 08 2014 12:20 NrG.Bamboo wrote: Name: NrG.Bamboo ID: NrG.Bamboo Max Rank: B+ (currently C or so) Race: Terran
C is just a guess, honestly. I don't have much reason to play anymore, but if I were a part of this league, I'm sure my rank would be anywhere between C-B with practice. I just need something to care about, else I'll just be offracing and dicking around forever.
EDIT: Also, if there is a problem with being a past B+, I can play random/zerg/protoss, each of which are C/C-/B max respectively; it really doesn't matter to me. Starcraft is Starcraft.
Ahh, if you think C is your legitimate skill level, then I'll take your word for it. Keep in mind that you'll be a reserve though, and not a current player, unless someone drops out, and Qikz still has priority over you if a Terran drops out and he is open to replacing.
Also, for the players, I might have to move the group selections back to Saturday, Mar 08 3:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00) because of last-minute problems
On March 08 2014 12:20 NrG.Bamboo wrote: Name: NrG.Bamboo ID: NrG.Bamboo Max Rank: B+ (currently C or so) Race: Terran
C is just a guess, honestly. I don't have much reason to play anymore, but if I were a part of this league, I'm sure my rank would be anywhere between C-B with practice. I just need something to care about, else I'll just be offracing and dicking around forever.
EDIT: Also, if there is a problem with being a past B+, I can play random/zerg/protoss, each of which are C/C-/B max respectively; it really doesn't matter to me. Starcraft is Starcraft.
Ahh, if you think C is your legitimate skill level, then I'll take your word for it. Keep in mind that you'll be a reserve though, and not a current player, unless someone drops out, and Qikz still has priority over you if a Terran drops out and he is open to replacing.
Also, for the players, I might have to move the group selections back to Saturday, Mar 08 3:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00) because of last-minute problems
Yeah, I've played last season for 70ish games while bored and stayed at lower C-. But either way, I'm happy to play and I'm in no sneaky snake trying to slay low ranks. I'm sincerely hit-or-miss.
On March 08 2014 23:50 Nb.LuRe wrote: name: Sergio ID: eSpi.Lure.gG max rank 1v1 B Race: Random
You'll be placed into the reserve list. Also, you MUST pick one race to play throughout the entire tournament, and you cannot change races during the tournament.
it is really hard to tell which group is group of death since many players are not well known and few players are offraces. but if have to, i would say group of C. u never know what tvt is going to be and toss has slightly adv against terran in general. so even toss is a bit lower ranked still have chance to win.
Yeah, what's wrong with a Bo1 group format? Are you conflicted because it's Bo1 and not a Bo3, or because there's a group stage? Unless there's 4 casters that are willing to cast all of the games for a longer period of time, it's going to be Bo1, because I'd have to cast all of those games, meaning if it's a Bo3, the time it takes to cast all of those games are longer, and unfortunately, I have to take time out of things I actually need to do to cast games, so there's a problem already right there. Making each group 30 minutes to an hour longer won't help me out at all.
Plus, as it was mentioned above, many other starleagues and tournaments has had Bo1 group formats for quite some time.
On March 10 2014 04:26 SynC[gm] wrote: Yeah, what's wrong with a Bo1 group format? Are you conflicted because it's Bo1 and not a Bo3, or because there's a group stage? Unless there's 4 casters that are willing to cast all of the games for a longer period of time, it's going to be Bo1, because I'd have to cast all of those games, meaning if it's a Bo3, the time it takes to cast all of those games are longer, and unfortunately, I have to take time out of things I actually need to do to cast games, so there's a problem already right there. Making each group 30 minutes to an hour longer won't help me out at all.
Plus, as it was mentioned above, many other starleagues and tournaments has had Bo1 group formats for quite some time.
iccup generates 5 random maps every week. but i think only 3 needed for group stages. how do you pick them? and btw,i always see stupid motws.
Group format is fine. The problem is bo1. It'll be the matter of how good can you prepare against allins. Macro games will be exceptions but I'm just a player, I dont make rules.
On March 10 2014 07:57 insanesky wrote: Group format is fine. The problem is bo1. It'll be the matter of how good can you prepare against allins. Macro games will be exceptions but I'm just a player, I dont make rules.
On March 10 2014 04:26 SynC[gm] wrote: Yeah, what's wrong with a Bo1 group format? Are you conflicted because it's Bo1 and not a Bo3, or because there's a group stage? Unless there's 4 casters that are willing to cast all of the games for a longer period of time, it's going to be Bo1, because I'd have to cast all of those games, meaning if it's a Bo3, the time it takes to cast all of those games are longer, and unfortunately, I have to take time out of things I actually need to do to cast games, so there's a problem already right there. Making each group 30 minutes to an hour longer won't help me out at all.
Plus, as it was mentioned above, many other starleagues and tournaments has had Bo1 group formats for quite some time.
iccup generates 5 random maps every week. but i think only 3 needed for group stages. how do you pick them? and btw,i always see stupid motws.
I'm only going to be picking three of the five MOTW that's selected, so no big deal. Although, as of this post, I don't believe a new set of MOTW has come out, so I might be sticking with the MOTW that's FS, Neo Medusa, Monte Cristo, Othello, and another map that I forgot.
As for "stupid" maps, which could be considered gimmick maps, although it IS out of the ordinary and unorthodox, everyone should be prepared to play on any maps regardless of how standard it is simply because it calls for different styles of games.
On March 10 2014 04:26 SynC[gm] wrote: Yeah, what's wrong with a Bo1 group format? Are you conflicted because it's Bo1 and not a Bo3, or because there's a group stage? Unless there's 4 casters that are willing to cast all of the games for a longer period of time, it's going to be Bo1, because I'd have to cast all of those games, meaning if it's a Bo3, the time it takes to cast all of those games are longer, and unfortunately, I have to take time out of things I actually need to do to cast games, so there's a problem already right there. Making each group 30 minutes to an hour longer won't help me out at all.
Plus, as it was mentioned above, many other starleagues and tournaments has had Bo1 group formats for quite some time.
iccup generates 5 random maps every week. but i think only 3 needed for group stages. how do you pick them? and btw,i always see stupid motws.
I'm only going to be picking three of the five MOTW that's selected, so no big deal. Although, as of this post, I don't believe a new set of MOTW has come out, so I might be sticking with the MOTW that's FS, Neo Medusa, Monte Cristo, Othello, and Bloody Ridge.
As for "stupid" maps, which could be considered gimmick maps, although it IS out of the ordinary and unorthodox, everyone should be prepared to play on any maps regardless of how standard it is simply because it calls for different styles of games.
I'll weigh in my opinion that I personally prefer to play Bo3. As a player, it is much more fun to play a little series than just a single game vs an opponent. It just allows a little metagame to develop.
I'll be happy to play in any format & thx to SynC for hosting.
On March 10 2014 21:25 13Julia wrote: Who should I play? I thought we were to play vs everyone in group.
You'll be playing your group in ODT format. Julia, in your case, your first game will be against SouthPark on Othello. Then, if you win your game, you'll be playing the winner of iFu.Cryoc vs Siekier. If you lose against SouthPark, you'll be playing the loser of Cryoc and Siekier on Fighting Spirit.
iFu.Cryoc <Othello> Siekier SouthPark <Othello> Julia Winner of Cryoc/Siekier <Fighting Spirit> Winner of SouthPark/Julia Loser of Cryoc/Siekier <Fighting Spirit> Loser of SouthPark/Julia Loser of Winner's Match <Neo Medusa> Winner of Loser's Match
As for Bo3 format, maybe I'll decide a Bo3 format when I have a little more time in life in a couple of months. I agree that it is better in terms of showcasing a player's quality and it is more or less, being used in the recent leagues, but again, I just don't have as much time as I would like to have as of late and I'd rather keep things a bit shorter to cast.
For clarification, you guys are saying the first initial games are Bo3, and the rest Bo1 just like SSL, right? If every game was Bo3, then that would literally take 4 hours to cast each group.
On March 11 2014 10:39 Jumperer wrote: Noooooooo I'm B+
Barring I get banned from Teamliquid in the time being or something crazy happens that makes me never want to host another tourney ever again, I'm probably going to be lifting the B+ restriction, as I believe B players are good enough to hang with the B+ players.
Unfortunately, that brings in the A-/B+ argument, but I'll just stick to opening the B+ gate next season.
On March 11 2014 10:39 Jumperer wrote: Noooooooo I'm B+
Barring I get banned from Teamliquid in the time being or something crazy happens that makes me never want to host another tourney ever again, I'm probably going to be lifting the B+ restriction, as I believe B players are good enough to hang with the B+ players.
Unfortunately, that brings in the A-/B+ argument, but I'll just stick to opening the B+ gate next season.
This is where iccup ranks are subjective. Ranks in the past are not the same as the current ranks. Ranks currently are harder to achieve. Someone who is C+ right now could probably be in the B range in the past.
Looking at the list of players right now, Jumper will lose to: ZeTy, Sero, Poetic, Julia, Cryoc, Southpark, and Modesty easily.
So I think you need to look past iccup ranks and access players in a different way.
On March 11 2014 10:39 Jumperer wrote: Noooooooo I'm B+
Barring I get banned from Teamliquid in the time being or something crazy happens that makes me never want to host another tourney ever again, I'm probably going to be lifting the B+ restriction, as I believe B players are good enough to hang with the B+ players.
Unfortunately, that brings in the A-/B+ argument, but I'll just stick to opening the B+ gate next season.
This is where iccup ranks are subjective. Ranks in the past are not the same as the current ranks. Ranks currently are harder to achieve. Someone who is C+ right now could probably be in the B range in the past.
Looking at the list of players right now, Jumper will lose to: ZeTy, Sero, Poetic, Julia, Cryoc, Southpark, and Modesty easily.
So I think you need to look past iccup ranks and access players in a different way.
Not that I'm trying to imply the logic "Well, what other choice do we have?", but is there another way to judge skill level other than our own opinions?
On March 11 2014 10:39 Jumperer wrote: Noooooooo I'm B+
Barring I get banned from Teamliquid in the time being or something crazy happens that makes me never want to host another tourney ever again, I'm probably going to be lifting the B+ restriction, as I believe B players are good enough to hang with the B+ players.
Unfortunately, that brings in the A-/B+ argument, but I'll just stick to opening the B+ gate next season.
This is where iccup ranks are subjective. Ranks in the past are not the same as the current ranks. Ranks currently are harder to achieve. Someone who is C+ right now could probably be in the B range in the past.
Looking at the list of players right now, Jumper will lose to: ZeTy, Sero, Poetic, Julia, Cryoc, Southpark, and Modesty easily.
So I think you need to look past iccup ranks and access players in a different way.
Not that I'm trying to imply the logic "Well, what other choice do we have?", but is there another way to judge skill level other than our own opinions?
By having a panel of volunteers who are very knowledgeable about the players. In the 1st Crimson Starleague, MVP & Jacklinks were clear favorites compared to the rest of the participants and should of not been allowed to play. Just because their iccup accounts were eligible, they find other means to practice via Fish or friends.
In Crimson Starleague 2, sas.LuMiX, PluS, and Radley were way above their competition. Radley has proven in the past in previous tournaments what he is truly capable of. Tournaments such as C ranks Game of Thrones, C Rank team leagues, BWMN tour, and TLS qualifications prove he was too good for the league. And then when it came down to sas.LuMiX and PluS, you have the notion that by off racing, they will be a lot worse when clearly players who have the mechanics and knowledge of their own race can easily transfer those skills to other races.
So if I were to disallow some players in this current Maroon league, I would not allow Julia, Southpark, Pike, and Choosy since they are big unknowns with their off races. You have other players in the wait-list who should replace them. And then you have the big 3: ZeTy, Cryoc, and Modesty. But I could see an upset from the likes of Sero, MVP, Radley, Fazors, and Poetic. So I guess I would keep the big 3 to keep it interesting although you could debate it.
On March 11 2014 10:39 Jumperer wrote: Noooooooo I'm B+
Barring I get banned from Teamliquid in the time being or something crazy happens that makes me never want to host another tourney ever again, I'm probably going to be lifting the B+ restriction, as I believe B players are good enough to hang with the B+ players.
Unfortunately, that brings in the A-/B+ argument, but I'll just stick to opening the B+ gate next season.
This is where iccup ranks are subjective. Ranks in the past are not the same as the current ranks. Ranks currently are harder to achieve. Someone who is C+ right now could probably be in the B range in the past.
Looking at the list of players right now, Jumper will lose to: ZeTy, Sero, Poetic, Julia, Cryoc, Southpark, and Modesty easily.
So I think you need to look past iccup ranks and access players in a different way.
Not that I'm trying to imply the logic "Well, what other choice do we have?", but is there another way to judge skill level other than our own opinions?
By having a panel of volunteers who are very knowledgeable about the players. In the 1st Crimson Starleague, MVP & Jacklinks were clear favorites compared to the rest of the participants and should of not been allowed to play. Just because their iccup accounts were eligible, they find other means to practice via Fish or friends.
In Crimson Starleague 2, sas.LuMiX, PluS, and Radley were way above their competition. Radley has proven in the past in previous tournaments what he is truly capable of. Tournaments such as C ranks Game of Thrones, C Rank team leagues, BWMN tour, and TLS qualifications prove he was too good for the league. And then when it came down to sas.LuMiX and PluS, you have the notion that by off racing, they will be a lot worse when clearly players who have the mechanics and knowledge of their own race can easily transfer those skills to other races.
So if I were to disallow some players in this current Maroon league, I would not allow Julia, Southpark, Pike, and Choosy since they are big unknowns with their off races. You have other players in the wait-list who should replace them. And then you have the big 3: ZeTy, Cryoc, and Modesty. But I could see an upset from the likes of Sero, MVP, Radley, Fazors, and Poetic. So I guess I would keep the big 3 to keep it interesting although you could debate it.
Hmm, when it comes to off-racing, I'm well aware of the quality that players still carry along, such as the knowledge of the matchup, and what have you, as it was debated a lot during D-ranks leagues. For Crimson, it's hard to say it's solely a C-ranks league, as I've said before that it wasn't limited TO C+ players, and it was more or less just players that I wanted to play.
As for the panel of volunteers, are you suggesting players that are the top level players, or people that just watch games more than they play. Save for one or two people I can think of off the top of my head, I can't think of anyone that watches more than they play, watches foreign BW, watches C/D players, and has no bias. To go along with that, it's impossible to tell that "Well, this players plays and trains on Fish with other good players from iCCup, and the only reason he doesn't have a high rank on iCCup is because they just don't ladder." That can go both ways; Birdie trains on Fish and I believe he got to C rank with a winning record and more points to spare after hitting the 4000 mark, but by no means would anyone consider him too good for Crimson eligibility.
Maybe in the next couple of seasons, I'll try to find a way to expand these leagues into something more legitimate and operation on an actual base/foundation, but until then, I'd have to say that this is just going to be based off of an unfortunately flawed ranking system.
In Crimson Starleague 2, sas.LuMiX, PluS, and Radley were way above their competition. Radley has proven in the past in previous tournaments what he is truly capable of. Tournaments such as C ranks Game of Thrones, C Rank team leagues, BWMN tour, and TLS qualifications prove he was too good for the league. And then when it came down to sas.LuMiX and PluS, you have the notion that by off racing, they will be a lot worse when clearly players who have the mechanics and knowledge of their own race can easily transfer those skills to other races.
Seriously? Did you even check out my games? During BWMN I had best possible bracket until semifinals. During Game of Thrones i was in really good shape and still could lose half of those games, winning only thanks to my own stubbornness. TLS qualifications? I didn't advance in any of them, my best score was top16 or top8 in one of qualifications, after having good bracket. All my wins against recognizable players are thanks to my BBS or their bad attitude during our games. I'm player with huge lack in macro management and mechanics, although with better micro than standard C rank player, which i try to make use of every time i play. When i train normally, I cannot hit C+ with good ratio, and that's not because I don't try to do so, but I can just lose even against D rank players, especial in TvP. If it's hurting you, i can stop from playing C ranks tournaments, even though Crimson was my first win is such competitions. Even more - it was my first finals, and it didn't come to me so easy, i have really hard games and lost many of them during tournament. Usually there are bunch of players with better scores, regardless if it's single or team league, and I don't say that they should not be allowed to play in C ranks tournaments. Always someone must be the best during particular event, even if it's limited to players with certain max rank.
Lumix and Plus are very bad examples too, since they have been playing offraces. And switching to offrace isn't as easy as you think, because mechanics are way different for all races (even between protoss and terran, which both I've played).
These discussions about better players are not fine imo, and I'm not saying it, because you are accusing me right now. I'm saying it, because it's often said against other players, which had good scores, because they deserved it by good preparation during tournament, not because they have smurfed during registration. The best example here, which come first to my mind, is Sero, who really prepared well and became much better player during last YSL.
On March 11 2014 10:39 Jumperer wrote: Noooooooo I'm B+
Barring I get banned from Teamliquid in the time being or something crazy happens that makes me never want to host another tourney ever again, I'm probably going to be lifting the B+ restriction, as I believe B players are good enough to hang with the B+ players.
Unfortunately, that brings in the A-/B+ argument, but I'll just stick to opening the B+ gate next season.
This is where iccup ranks are subjective. Ranks in the past are not the same as the current ranks. Ranks currently are harder to achieve. Someone who is C+ right now could probably be in the B range in the past.
Looking at the list of players right now, Jumper will lose to: ZeTy, Sero, Poetic, Julia, Cryoc, Southpark, and Modesty easily.
So I think you need to look past iccup ranks and access players in a different way.
Yo Jumperer is the best foreign broodwar player at the moment, you smoking some STROOOONG psychedelics man.
On March 11 2014 10:39 Jumperer wrote: Noooooooo I'm B+
Barring I get banned from Teamliquid in the time being or something crazy happens that makes me never want to host another tourney ever again, I'm probably going to be lifting the B+ restriction, as I believe B players are good enough to hang with the B+ players.
Unfortunately, that brings in the A-/B+ argument, but I'll just stick to opening the B+ gate next season.
This is where iccup ranks are subjective. Ranks in the past are not the same as the current ranks. Ranks currently are harder to achieve. Someone who is C+ right now could probably be in the B range in the past.
Looking at the list of players right now, Jumper will lose to: ZeTy, Sero, Poetic, Julia, Cryoc, Southpark, and Modesty easily.
So I think you need to look past iccup ranks and access players in a different way.
Yo Jumperer is the best foreign broodwar player at the moment, you smoking some STROOOONG psychedelics man.
this thread should be about the league itself. why do i see so many junk posts? sync put his effort to organize this. can we show some respects to him? i hope i will see more analyze and prediction about the groups instead of discussion about players who are not participated in the league.
Americans in the league, keep in mind that we went through Daylight Savings Time whereas Europe hasn't yet. There's no need for drastic changes, just know that Americans should be showing up to play at 2pm EDT/1pm CDT/11am PDT and Europeans are still showing up at 7:00pm CET
On March 13 2014 00:00 yellowsmile wrote: this thread should be about the league itself. why do i see so many junk posts? sync put his effort to organize this. can we show some respects to him? i hope i will see more analyze and prediction about the groups instead of discussion about players who are not participated in the league.
How are they junk posts? I was defending some players participating in the event who would feel there is an unfair and unequal skill gap from the lowest to the highest skilled player in a league as a neutral party. This is a league that wants to group players of a certain skill set to maximize the fun.
So far the only players that voiced their opinion were in the top minority of players who were questionable to play in these leagues which says a lot in itself. If the other participants and fans do not mind about the skill gap then ignore everything I said. I just felt there would be some who did not want to voice their concerns due to many reasons.
I am not taking anything away from Sync and I did not want to take anything away from this great tournament. Sync deserves much more credit than he receives and I am really thankful for all his time and effort. I just wanted to suggest something that I felt could make the league more fair and make lot of the players feel more comfortable knowing everyone has a chance to win as long as they prepare and practice.
On March 13 2014 11:45 puppykiller wrote: Oh god a tourney game on lost temple... please do it. How else we going to thin out the remaining zergs and all of the protoss.
I'm guessing he will pick Blue Storm, Match Point, Wind and Cloud.
Arguments about rank are stupid, there were rules on the eligibility for who is capable of playing. Therefore once the list of players is made, you can't complain about it as the judge has ruled them eligible. Concern on favourites, etc: there are always going to be favourites, look at any professional league and even though they are of the same "level" they definitely are not equal in ability. To conclude, if you have complaints; don't play or train hard and overcome these deficits.
BTW if nina will stream, I will cast but I don't have a stream so I can't do it alone.
For the rankings, maybe it'll be settled and finalized later on in life, but as for the time being, it's unfortunately a bit flawed and as draW said, there will always be favorites even if everyone was literally equal skill level because of styles and/or strength and weaknesses in matchups...
For the new MOTW, the maps for this Saturday isn't changing since it's too late to change it now, so I'm just going to wait on what the maps are going to be on Sunday, since I don't want the players to wait very long to know what maps are going to be played.
For casters, I guess we somewhat have enough in me, tonight, Nina/draW and puppykiller, and hopefully Lmaster and others soon. Still, the group format is a Bo1.
SouthPark unhonorable opponent use luck vs Julia superior toss to get advantages, but Julia know afraid of SouthPark luck skills. Let better chess win and SouthPark loose, Julia will get ninazerg to have sex, yes. Friday evening SP will take reaver from the back several times like a 15 year old gypsy girl.
On March 13 2014 11:45 puppykiller wrote: Oh god a tourney game on lost temple... please do it. How else we going to thin out the remaining zergs and all of the protoss.
and me in a all-terran group.. im gonna get so raped in LT xddd
Just for heads up, I won't be able to play for next 5-6 days due to me traveling. So if any of our group members able to play tomorrow after 3pm CST, just message me, please.
On March 14 2014 13:00 LTY wrote: Just for heads up, I won't be able to play for next 5-6 days due to me traveling. So if any of our group members able to play tomorrow after 3pm CST, just message me, please.
i think you should msg your opponent instead. also, you are supposed to let the organizer know this fact earlier since there is only like 1 day and a half left towards the game time.
On March 14 2014 13:00 LTY wrote: Just for heads up, I won't be able to play for next 5-6 days due to me traveling. So if any of our group members able to play tomorrow after 3pm CST, just message me, please.
If you're going out of town and can't play, why do you need to play AFTER the designated date...?
I've had some unforeseen work come up that I need to do tomorrow morning. I don't forsee being done in time to play at 1 CDT scheduled time, but I should be home around 3/4 CDT. I PMed pio-pio to see if he's able to play sometime today or tomorrow before I leave. I'll update this thread with what happens and when I'm back tomorrow to play remaining games.
On March 15 2014 11:38 Birdie wrote: How many hours till this starts? Icedraco wants to know.
On March 13 2014 00:13 SynC[gm] wrote: Americans in the league, keep in mind that we went through Daylight Savings Time whereas Europe hasn't yet. There's no need for drastic changes, just know that Americans should be showing up to play at 2pm EDT/1pm CDT/11am PDT and Europeans are still showing up at 7:00pm CET
Something came up and I cannot be home from around 18 cet until 23 cet. If my group (Spaniard, Lumix and Sterling) is willing to wait or play earlier, let me know.
Although since it's the group stages and I don't have a problem with more than a couple of players postponing due to last-minute reasons, I would still appreciate the players if they take the time to PM them players first before posting on the thread, as the PM is for confirmation that the player sees it and the post is confirmation that there is indeed a need for a PP.
I will extend the games/replay deadline but don't forget, winners of each game must send replays to maroonstarleague@outlook.com
MVP vs LRM)Cats_Paw @ Othello ArtOfBlack vs LRM)Cats_Paw @ Fighting Spirit MVP vs ArtOfBlack @ Neo Medusa
Group C will be slightly delayed, possibly until the upcoming week, due to time restrictions from all parties. Liquipedia has been updated with the results and the brackets, so check those out and if you and your opponents brackets are set, feel free to schedule your games out whenever and play accordingly, as soon as the map rotation is released, which I hope is in a couple of days.
Until when we have to play the next round? Because I can't play the upcoming weekend and have the luck of not having an opponent yet to set another time.
Until when we have to play the next round? Because I can't play the upcoming weekend and have the luck of not having an opponent yet to set another time.
You can postpone your game up until the Thursday after the designated date/time on Saturday. If that's still not possible, I'll try and squeeze out a winner from Group C ASAP so you can play whenever possible.
Casting groups C and F at 5 pm Central American Time (or 7 hours and 15 minutes from this post). Someone put it on the calender because I don't know how :D.
On March 18 2014 03:48 13Julia wrote: Pending Calendar Events Maroon Starleague Ro 32 Monday 17th Mar 2014 23:00 CET
Btw, you can use the [ time ] code in-post to convert times between timezones.
Idk why no one approved it yet :/
23:00 GMT (+00:00)
I think I did the time right?
You did it right, and it's in the calender events. If you need someone to approve it right away, just try PM'ing BisuDagger, and he'll approve it right away.
Alright, so apparently, iCCup MOTW is going to be inconsistent with its updates, so I'll just be posting the map rotation in the OP and in the thread to remind everyone what the maps are going to be.
Don't forget, the Ro16 and the Ro8 will be Bo3. The Ro4 and Third-place match will be Bo5. The Finals will be a Bo7.
Uh...I've never played as far as I know. A page back, I said that I couldn't make it on time.... I'm quite confused myself, what's going on? Was something casted that indicated me 2-0? Wtf? O_O
Unless everyone in the group no showed, I wouldn't mind if we rescheduled games. It's break for me this week!
On March 18 2014 12:39 Fazers wrote: Uh...I've never played as far as I know. A page back, I said that I couldn't make it on time.... I'm quite confused myself, what's going on? Was something casted that indicated me 2-0? Wtf? O_O
Unless everyone in the group no showed, I wouldn't mind if we rescheduled games. It's break for me this week!
On March 18 2014 12:39 Fazers wrote: Uh...I've never played as far as I know. A page back, I said that I couldn't make it on time.... I'm quite confused myself, what's going on? Was something casted that indicated me 2-0? Wtf? O_O
Unless everyone in the group no showed, I wouldn't mind if we rescheduled games. It's break for me this week!
Favian played in your place.
Wait, so Fazers and Favian are two different folks...? Uhh... Well... #awk.
On March 19 2014 07:56 2Pacalypse- wrote: Will all the groups of Ro32 get casted eventually?
Yes I will do the remaining groups to cast. Group C will be slightly delayed however, since not all of the games are played and players didn't want to take a walkover.
On March 19 2014 19:06 Poetic[AoV] wrote: I cannot play this weekend. I can play tonight or tomorrow, or next week. But I don't know who to PM to arrange it!
Your opponent, and everyone that advanced, are listed on Liquipedia. So far, only one winner is undecided as they are getting their games played under time constraints.
Also, I also updated Liquipedia with all of the VODs of all of the cast of the groups except for Group C, so be sure to check out mine, NinaZerg's, and puppykiller's casts.
On March 19 2014 19:06 Poetic[AoV] wrote: I cannot play this weekend. I can play tonight or tomorrow, or next week. But I don't know who to PM to arrange it!
Your opponent, and everyone that advanced, are listed on Liquipedia. So far, only one winner is undecided as they are getting their games played under time constraints.
Also, I also updated Liquipedia with all of the VODs of all of the cast of the groups except for Group C, so be sure to check out mine, NinaZerg's, and puppykiller's casts.
My opponent is listed as Fazers. Should I pm fabiano instead?
On March 19 2014 19:06 Poetic[AoV] wrote: I cannot play this weekend. I can play tonight or tomorrow, or next week. But I don't know who to PM to arrange it!
Your opponent, and everyone that advanced, are listed on Liquipedia. So far, only one winner is undecided as they are getting their games played under time constraints.
Also, I also updated Liquipedia with all of the VODs of all of the cast of the groups except for Group C, so be sure to check out mine, NinaZerg's, and puppykiller's casts.
My opponent is listed as Fazers. Should I pm fabiano instead?
Fabiano? Your opponent would be Fabian[PaiN]. Unfortunately, I don't know if he has a TL account, since he came on to replace Fazers
Unfortunately, because of school-related events, I won't be available at the designated game time this week, so if you need to notify me of anything, please shoot me a PM as soon as possible if it has to do with an opponent not showing up.
If the opponent does not show up after 25 minutes from the start of the designated game time, you will have the right to take a walkover. If you need a last-minute postponement, it is your responsibility to PM your opponent AND me asking your opponent for a PP and letting me know that there will be a PP.
I cannot play today, and I cannot pm my opponent... I have sent a pm to favian[pain] on iccup but idk if he will see it. I hope that this can be sorted out, I will try to come online at the 18.00gmt to the channel, but I cannot play any games.
Wow, great time for iCCup to start acting up... Alright, if players can get their games played today, great. Butif the problem continues, the designate date to play will be pushed back to tomorrow, so the game time will be Sunday, Mar 23 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00).
Ah, got back home, realized that it was a problem that lasted for awhile... Because of the circumstances, if the players were unable to play today on iCCup and can't get on Fish and the public servers (USEast, USWest, Asia, Europe), the deadline to play the games will be extended by Saturday, Mar 29 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00).
The only one that's exempt from the deadline is Cryoc and his yet-to-be-determined opponent.
Edit: Extended the deadling, I just decided to delay the Ro8 for a week because of scheduling issues amongst the players and the iCCup log-in issue this recent Saturday. I'll be fixing the OP accordingly.
Casting Sky vs 2Pacalypse- at Tuesday, Mar 25 3:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)!
Tried to make it at a reasonable time for both players, if they want to, to watch as puppykiller casted at an inconvenient time for Europeans, hoping I could make it up. Unfortunately, it'll only be one series as no other games have been played, which is the reason for me extending the deadline, so be sure to tune in as there's only going to be one series!
Trying to stream for the last 15 minutes but it doesn't seem to be working... Thanks, Xsplit and maybe Twitch... -_-
Edit: Alright, looks like it's not just me, checked all of the SC2 and BW streams and none of them seems to be working. Tried to switch Twitch servers, and doesn't even give me an option, so seems like it's Twitch. I'll keep trying though, for a few more minutes. Hopefully it works out...
On March 27 2014 01:47 dRaW wrote: can't watch any vods, what a sad life... where can I get the reps?
Can you not watch them because they're on Twitch, or the links are dead? I'm assuming it's the former, since they're working fine for me. Sky vs 2Pac is on YouTube though, so you can watch that VOD.
I uploaded the VOD of SouthPark vs icedraco but audio was muted even before I could acknowledge copyright infringement so I'll be re-uploading the VOD later on with the music edited out.
On March 31 2014 13:07 SynC[gm] wrote: VOD of Diesirae vs Pike + Show Spoiler +
http://youtu.be/2wdIAVUs3qI
I uploaded the VOD of SouthPark vs icedraco but audio was muted even before I could acknowledge copyright infringement so I'll be re-uploading the VOD later on with the music edited out.
great vods, great players, look out SP in next round, there will be no mercy !!!!!!
On March 31 2014 13:07 SynC[gm] wrote: VOD of Diesirae vs Pike + Show Spoiler +
http://youtu.be/2wdIAVUs3qI
I uploaded the VOD of SouthPark vs icedraco but audio was muted even before I could acknowledge copyright infringement so I'll be re-uploading the VOD later on with the music edited out.
great vods, great players, look out SP in next round, there will be no mercy !!!!!!
If only Pike and SouthPark were playing Zerg, I'd actually be happy to cast a ZvZ...
Players in the Round-of-8, keep in mind that the games are Saturday, Apr 05 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)! Keep in mind that Europe has gone through daylight savings time, but the time should ALL be the same. Unless players notify me, I'm expecting everyone to show up on Saturday to play the games, except for one of the Ro8 series that's already been played.
Remember that the Ro8 maps are Neo Medusa, Destination, and then Fighting Spirit.
To the winner of Julia vs 2Pacalypse-, unfortunately, Pike vs SouthPark will be delayed until Friday due to time constraints. I know that's sort of extreme when it comes to postponing, but neither player can be walked over/given a walkover. Personally, wondering why the two didn't schedule it beforehand if they knew something would come up...
Anyways, so the Ro4 will be slightly delayed, depending on whether Julia/2Pac will want a PP for their games against the winner of Pike/SouthPark. The winner of Julia/2Pac, please feel free to PM both Pike/SouthPark for possible scheduling if need be.
Sorry for the slight delay of getting this casted, but I'll be casting the 3rd place Consolation match between / Julia vs widowkiller_ at Sunday, Apr 27 7:15pm GMT (GMT+00:00)!
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