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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 23 2013 21:12 GMT
#81
Oh look it's Clawson.
dinosrwar
Profile Joined September 2011
1290 Posts
November 23 2013 21:34 GMT
#82
On November 24 2013 05:51 trutaCz wrote:
Huh ggs, thank you all who were cheering for me. Tried to make it not so much one-sided, but i totally lost my mind and gave up after i lost 2 games which i should have won(probably). Congratz to Sziky, he's a superior player


Great games! You showed a lot of fight. A lot of nailbiters! Probably my fav TLS finals so far.
wndr
Profile Joined January 2012
19 Posts
November 23 2013 21:49 GMT
#83
Even though it was a clean sweep, I really enjoyed the finals!
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
November 23 2013 22:14 GMT
#84
On November 24 2013 06:00 iG.Arcneon wrote:
vods pls i missed this!


hope you playing in the STL match that will be casted tomorrow!!!
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
November 23 2013 23:19 GMT
#85
trutacz, eonzerg, zaraki, bonyth, dsaqwe, handy, dandy, terror, and more... wtf going on @ iccup?? everyone is online :D
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19258 Posts
November 23 2013 23:32 GMT
#86
Sorry I wasn't there for this guys. Haven't had a computer for the last week from my mom and went home to family . Grats to Sziky for awesome play.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9510 Posts
November 24 2013 00:05 GMT
#87
On November 24 2013 08:19 dRaW wrote:
trutacz, eonzerg, zaraki, bonyth, dsaqwe, handy, dandy, terror, and more... wtf going on @ iccup?? everyone is online :D

Everyone practicing for TLS Championship.

Btw, if you dodge again you're banned, EVERYWHERE!
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1689 Posts
November 24 2013 00:24 GMT
#88
On November 24 2013 05:45 Cele wrote:
no showmatch? big dissapointment tbh!

If Sayle was more in practice, we totally woulda showmatched for you guys. But there are always the events between now and TLS Championship ^^

Well played to both guys tonight. Trutacz's play hit another level, taking on Sziky like that. But what a player Sziky has become. A real force.
EleGant[AoV]
MinscandBoo
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
252 Posts
November 24 2013 04:16 GMT
#89
just watched the vods. dragon nooooo T_T good effort trutacz!
Swords! Not words!
traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
November 24 2013 04:21 GMT
#90
Good job Trutacz sad you didn't win cuz would've helped my Liquibet XD sadface also because no Sziky vs Bisu showmatch Excited to see TLS Championships
"Appreciate the things you have before they become the things you had."
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
November 24 2013 08:31 GMT
#91
On November 24 2013 09:24 ImbaTosS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 05:45 Cele wrote:
no showmatch? big dissapointment tbh!

If Sayle was more in practice, we totally woulda showmatched for you guys. But there are always the events between now and TLS Championship ^^

Well played to both guys tonight. Trutacz's play hit another level, taking on Sziky like that. But what a player Sziky has become. A real force.

Well, then make it a highlight of TLS championship! Elegant vs Sayle showmatch; no matter what level of practice you guys have, there's always a possibility to give some handicaps or offracing odds to make it more even.
iG.Arcneon
Profile Joined January 2013
Finland333 Posts
November 24 2013 14:57 GMT
#92
Very nice finals Can't believe I actually liked a ZvZ serie :O Congrats Sziky!
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 19:33:44
November 24 2013 15:46 GMT
#93
On November 24 2013 05:40 Liquid`Drone wrote:
that was much closer than the 4-0 would indicate. some small decisions and super close fights ended up going sziky's way, I think this could easily have been 2-2 instead right now.

lol you cant say that, win is a win. If thats the case then TechnicS couldve easily go 4:2 against Sziky last season, instead 2:4, cuz 2 of his games he was advantageous enough for us vewers to think he is 90% gonna win. Then he lose by tiny little things. That little things actually is the very big things that decide the games.
In game 1 and 2 i dont think trutacz had so much advantage, he lost game 1 as soon as he decided to cut drones and go for fast spire, sziky superrior eco was just going to kill him in the later stage of the game anyways. Game 2 same, going behind in eco against sziky is sure loss.

Gongratulations to Sziky, Trutacz and Technics, for their finish.
Great ZvZ games i must admit.

Sziky is the most creative foreign player in terms of tactics i have ever seen. His abillity to adapt and improvise is way above all the preparations his opponents can possiblly do, with TechnicS being the closest to his skill.

Think about it, Flash never had a game plan while he was the best of the best. Preparing situations and actions by yourself that involve other people is not what will work naturally(take conversation for example). You must do what you do + force your opponent to do what you want him to do and then putting all this to work is so much harder. Instead of working on understanding your opponents mind and adapt, let him do what he wants to do and feel he is on the right way and when the time comes he will just realise he failed badly. One must have huge game understanding for such things, but thats an skill applyable for all the opponents you face.

Creativity --->Improvisation/Adaptation thats the most important skills of the high level game by my view, and thats what make the game really an art.

Its like an jam session with musicians, every one of you have some skills and understanding of the music you make, but all that matters is what you create at the moment - the flow.

I really want to see some interviews with sziky, im sure he dont just play game by thinking, he must trully have an inpiration and real passion to be able to play like that.
Luv ya BroodWar!
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 16:08:37
November 24 2013 16:08 GMT
#94
sorry double post
Luv ya BroodWar!
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 24 2013 18:37 GMT
#95
Sziky truly is the foreign bonjwa. Gratz!
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28683 Posts
November 24 2013 20:46 GMT
#96
sometimes in bw if you are around their skill level, you can first lose 4-0 to a player and beat him 4-0 the next day. yes, ultimately it's skill and yes sziky totally deserved to win because he's the best, smartest and most complete. but the thing is that 4-0 usually looks like one player was totally outplayed, that wasn't the case here. in the first two games trutacz won the micro battles and looked just as good as sziky. and then, after winning the first two, sziky had the momentum and genuinely dominated games 3 and 4. games one and two were really close. they were definitely not decided by trutacz making too few drones, they were decided by sziky recognizing that he was at a disadvantage and smartly backstabbing with mutalisks. but like, this type of backstab is only something you do in a zvz if you are at a disadvantage. the very fact that sziky decided to attack with a lower amount of mutalisks than trutacz had - which means death if you are caught in the middle - is proof of the fact that he knew he was at a disadvantage, otherwise he would never do it.

also, people complimenting trutacz for his play is not actually an attack on technics. frankly though, I thought this was just as close of a series as the 4-2 he played.
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_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 23:07:58
November 24 2013 22:57 GMT
#97
U understand me wrong for some things. Im not saying game 1 wasnt close and think that sziky did the backstab, because he know he cant fight superror number mutas of trutacz and he saw that opportunity to put them to use. Yes, he was disadvantageous on the muta count, but had greater eco and spore defences.
On the part with reverse 4-0 i highly doubt that will happen in the current form of the two, as far as my understanding goes.
Trutacz has really impressive micro, maybe the best for non pro foreigneer, but Sziky is much more complex player in every other aspect. And i dont take compliment for Trutacz as insult for TechnicS or anything like that i just gave you Tech for example of my point.
Luv ya BroodWar!
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28683 Posts
November 24 2013 23:16 GMT
#98
don't get me wrong. I wasn't trying to imply that trutacz could beat sziky 4-0 the next time they played. sziky is the better player. but it wasn't a complete blowout, trutacz was very close to winning two of the games and I'd say he was actually unlucky to lose 0-4.
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therockmanxx
Profile Joined July 2010
Peru1174 Posts
November 26 2013 05:13 GMT
#99
BW is better than porn
There I say it !!
Awesome game, there was an zvz final in d proscene before
But this was as awesome as that
Tekken ProGamer
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
November 26 2013 05:27 GMT
#100
http://23akyi2c120wnn7q.watch2gether.com/ old TSL, dinOt vs JF
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
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