BWMN Open Grand Finals

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L3gendary

Canada1470 Posts

January 26 2013 05:24 GMT

Graphics by: A Stand Up Guy

It is now time for the grand finals of BWMN Open! Beginning with 40 competitors on Dec. 2nd, only 2 now remain.

Technics and

TrutaCz will go head to head in a best of 5 to determine who will take home the $100 first place prize. The 3rd place match featuring

Sziky and

Radley will also be shown, prior to the finals match.

Once again the maps have been updated (as of Jan. 19th). The full change log is available in the download. Post any bugs, balance issues, and any feedback in this thread.

Bracket: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/BWMN_Open/Playoffs
*Warning: Spoilers*

Date & Time
-Sunday, January 27th, at 20:00 GMT (+00:00). Tentative cast date & time: Tuesday, January 29th, at 20:00 GMT (+00:00).

Format
-Finals=bo5, 3rd place match=bo3. Maps chosen based on players' rankings from favorite to least favorite.

Channel
op BWMN on iCCup.

Prize Pool
1st $100
2nd $50
3rd $20

Finals - Jan. 27th
Best of 5

LRM)trutaCz vs.

TechnicS[BG]
<Gemlong>
<DeserTec>
<Melting Pot>
<Resonance II>
<Gemlong>

3rd Place Match - Jan. 27th
Best of 3

Radek_z_[KDV] vs.

sas.Sziky
<Melting Pot>
<Resonance II>
<Cross Game>

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Finals

LRM)trutaCz<Gemlong> TechnicS[BG]
LRM)trutaCz<DeserTec>

TechnicS[BG]

LRM)trutaCz<Melting Pot> TechnicS[BG]
LRM)trutaCz<Resonance II>

TechnicS[BG]

LRM)trutaCz<Gemlong> TechnicS[BG]

TechnicS wins 3-2!

3rd Place Match
Radek_z_[KDV]<Melting Pot>

sas.Sziky

Radek_z_[KDV]<Resonance II> sas.Sziky

Radek_z_[KDV]<Cross Game> sas.Sziky

Sziky wins 2-1!

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Finals

3rd Place Match

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1. Submit replays to bwmnopenreplays@gmail.com and indicate both player’s ID’s and map score in the email.
2. Winners and Losers must both submit replays by 20:00 GMT (+00:00) the next day (Monday).
3. Rescheduling is allowed if both players agree to it, but no later than the replay deadline.
4. Players must reply to PMs (or skype messages) from opponents within 48 hours to answer rescheduling requests. For players in poor timezones compromises need to be reached. These players should PM me asap.
5. 20 minutes grace for no shows (by 15:20pm EST). If there's a no show players must submit screenshots with timestamp using the /time command.
6. All games played on ICCup with LAN latency on unless agreed to by both players. Anti-hack is a must.
7. No BM in-game or out will be tolerated.
8. You must play on the ID you registered with.
9. Do not spoil results of matches.
10. No cheating/abusing..duh

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iCCup ID / Teamliquid ID / Other: Races

LRM)trutaCz / trutaCz:

Radek_z_[KDV] / radley:

TechnicS[BG] / LRM)TechnicS / aka:eSu.TechnicS, LRM-TechnicS:

sas.Sziky / sas.Sziky:

Graphic by: Freakling
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(2)Cross Game 1.02
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http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Cross_Game
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(2)Resonance II 1.03a
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http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Resonance_II
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* Fixed miner pathing for top spawn

(3)Hazard Black 1.03
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http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Hazard_Black
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* moved start locations closer to main ramps
* perfected mineral lines for all mains
* fixed mineral formation at natural at 9, to prevent miners from migrating behind minerals

(4)DeserTec 1.01
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http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/DeserTec
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(4)Melting Pot 1.05a
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http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Melting_Pot
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fixed miner pathfinding bugs for all spawns

(4)Gemlong 1.03a
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http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Gemlong
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fixed bad mineral lines for both top spawns

The map pack includes a melee, observer, and training version. The melee version will be the one used for matches. The training versions allow you to set your spawning location to practice wall-offs and familiarize yourself with the maps.

Download Latest Map Pack

Birdie will cast the games along with Hacklebeast or radley. The tentative time and date for the cast is 20:00 GMT (+00:00) on Tuesday, January 29th.

Channel: http://www.twitch.tv/sen_birdie

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Thanks to everyone helping with this league!

Admins: LML and L3gendary
Liquipedia: Endy and Mewka
Maps: BWMN Team and Freakling
Casters: Birdie, L_master, radley, and Hacklebeast
Community: asiantraceur

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/BWMN_Open
Original Thread
Group Stage Thread
Round of 16 Thread
Round of 8 Thread
Semifinal Thread

L3gendary

Canada1470 Posts

January 26 2013 05:24 GMT

Poll: Grand Final Winner?

TechnicS (Z) (11)

65%

trutaCz (Z) (6)

35%

17 total votes

Your vote: Grand Final Winner?

(Vote): TechnicS (Z)
(Vote): trutaCz (Z)

Poll: 3rd Place Match Winner?

Radley (T) (10)

53%

Sziky (Z) (9)

47%

19 total votes

Your vote: 3rd Place Match Winner?

(Vote): Radley (T)
(Vote): Sziky (Z)

Poll: Did you enjoy watching games in 16:9 aspect ratio?

Yes, and I prefer 16:9 (9)

56%

Yes, but I like 4:3 more (6)

38%

No, I only like 4:3 (1)

6%

16 total votes

Your vote: Did you enjoy watching games in 16:9 aspect ratio?

(Vote): Yes, and I prefer 16:9
(Vote): Yes, but I like 4:3 more
(Vote): No, I only like 4:3

Which maps would you like to see in future tournaments? (PLEASE VOTE!)

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http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Cross_Game
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Poll: Cross Game

Yes (7)

100%

No (0)

0%

7 total votes

Your vote: Cross Game

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Resonance_II
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Poll: Resonance II

Yes (7)

88%

No (1)

13%

8 total votes

Your vote: Resonance II

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Hazard_Black
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Poll: Hazard Black

Yes (4)

50%

No (4)

50%

8 total votes

Your vote: Hazard Black

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/DeserTec
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Poll: DeserTec

No (6)

75%

Yes (2)

25%

8 total votes

Your vote: DeserTec

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Melting_Pot
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Poll: Melting Pot

Yes (6)

75%

No (2)

25%

8 total votes

Your vote: Melting Pot

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Gemlong
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Poll: Gemlong

Yes (6)

67%

No (3)

33%

9 total votes

Your vote: Gemlong

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

dRaW

Canada5744 Posts

January 26 2013 05:34 GMT

hm what happened with sziky/technics? That is very strange

BisuDagger

Bisutopia19239 Posts

January 26 2013 05:48 GMT

Technics qualified in TLS first so clearly he's the best.

JungleTerrain

Chile799 Posts

January 26 2013 07:17 GMT

Technics 3-0 Sziky

Sziky had said he had not played in 2 weeks or something like that.

ArvickHero

10387 Posts

January 26 2013 07:43 GMT

Too bad the finals ended up to be the matchup where the map matters the least, relatively speaking .. well, at least the bronze match is TvZ ^^

Birdie

New Zealand4438 Posts

January 26 2013 09:58 GMT

Get hyped yo, grand finals coming up! I'll be casting, with either Radley or Hacklebeast or both or neither.

I'll hopefully have an interview or three for you all, and some map statistics (assuming tracurling or whomever gets them done), and some cool stuffz in general ;o

trutaCz

Poland686 Posts

January 26 2013 11:58 GMT

Radley is such a awesome guy, he has so many fans ^_^

endy

Switzerland8970 Posts

January 26 2013 14:01 GMT

Won't be able to tune-in because of the time

Is Technics going to play random like he did vs eonzerg ?

How is Radley a favorite in the polls vs Sziky ? I mean he's not bad, but he's supposedly C+ high (since he was in the C rank KOTH).

radley

Poland582 Posts

January 26 2013 14:23 GMT

#10

On January 26 2013 23:01 endy wrote:
Won't be able to tune-in because of the time

Is Technics going to play random like he did vs eonzerg ?

How is Radley a favorite in the polls vs Sziky ? I mean he's not bad, but he's supposedly C+ high (since he was in the C rank KOTH).

I have improved during last weeks of not playing any games and now I am A+ level terran.

traceurling

United States1240 Posts

January 26 2013 14:42 GMT

#11

On January 26 2013 18:58 Birdie wrote:
, and some map statistics (assuming tracurling or whomever gets them done), and some cool stuffz in general ;o

Crap when are you casting I've been lazy and need to get it all up to date...

pebble444

Italy2497 Posts

January 29 2013 07:21 GMT

#12

Man i can t decide if i like more 16

or 4:3 ... i guess 4:3 AT the moment but maybe just cause i m used to that...

GL to all in the Finals!! gogo co-cast with Radley please!! *or Birdie+Hacklebeast+Radley sounds good too

And again guys i might sound annoying BUT especiale Radey Sziky Technics Trutacz (but not only you) if you would like to write anything about the maps, go write it here please!! http://www.iccup.com/community/thread/525164/page3.html

This can include games that you played, things you found interesting and why/how is any of these maps balanced and worthy. Also if anyone from the staff or the good people at Broodwarmaps.net, would like to write anything as well, For example How the map was changed and fixed from the first version, GO FOR IT!! (commentators too)

Birdie

New Zealand4438 Posts

January 29 2013 10:53 GMT

#13

Round of 4 cast is up on youtube at http://www.youtube.com/birdiebw by the way.

radley

Poland582 Posts

January 29 2013 15:43 GMT

#14

i have written on iccup my recommendation to Melting Pot, CrossGame and Resonance II.

thezanursic

5479 Posts

January 29 2013 16:23 GMT

#15

Techincs is going to take this!

Mewka

Poland1458 Posts

January 29 2013 20:06 GMT

#16

it's live! : )

quirinus

Croatia2489 Posts

January 29 2013 20:29 GMT

#17

On January 30 2013 05:06 Mewka wrote:
it's live! : )

It's alive! xD

Radley so closeeeeee.

Mewka

Poland1458 Posts

January 29 2013 21:01 GMT

#18

Radley so chesseeeee

dimitur4o

Bulgaria80 Posts

January 29 2013 21:47 GMT

#19

TechnicS rules;)

chukolna

78 Posts

January 29 2013 21:53 GMT

#20

tech is too good, TLS next

figq

12519 Posts

January 29 2013 21:53 GMT

#21

Technicssss :D please win TLS tooooo!

Mewka

Poland1458 Posts

January 29 2013 22:03 GMT

#22

congratz for both zergs

Birdie

New Zealand4438 Posts

January 29 2013 22:07 GMT

#23

And that concludes the BWMN Open Tournament! Congrats on our winner, TechnicS! And congratulations trutaCz on second place, Sziky on third place, and Radley on fourth. (Zerg OP).

I'll have the cast up on youtube soonish, but while you wait, here's an interview of TechnicS!

Birdie: Hello TechnicS! How are you on this lovely day?

TechnicS: Hello, Birdie!

Well I didn't sleep too well, but I am fine thanks, and you?

Birdie: You just beat trutaCz in the finals of the BWMN Open, and you beat Sziky and a lot of other skilled players to get to the throne at the end. How are you feeling coming off such a big win?

TechnicS: I feel great. I played lots of really good players and winning them is very satisfying. I also learned a lot throughout the tournament so it feels good.

Birdie: This is your first tournament win in 2013, do you plan on winning a lot more this year?

TechnicS: I plan to improve further this year. I really hope I might be able to do so and hopefully get deep when playing in tournaments.

Birdie: You qualified for TeamLiquid Legacy Starleague 1 in the first qualifier, tearing through the open bracket. The only player who managed to beat you was eOnzerg, the player some say is your rival. If you meet him again in the main TLS Tour, are you confident that you can beat him?

TechnicS: Yeah, eonzerg won 2:0 vs my protoss in that qualifier finals. But I think that I can beat him with my protoss too. If we meet again in this TLS tour again, I will be playing him zerg though.

Birdie: What player are you most scared of meeting in the TLS?

TechnicS: Nobody particular. Since the qualifier stage is now over and we are in the group phase, I think that everybody who qualified are players that better be not underestimated.

Birdie: What are your thoughts on the maps of BWMN Open Tour?

TechnicS: At first I thought of the maps of this tournament as good looking maps and that have a lot of potential. But I was also worried
about that they are not really well balanced mineral/gaswise and felt rather uncomfortable playing on them in the first rounds of the tournament.
Later on, thanks to the readiness and the hard work of Freakling (the mapmaker), the maps became better and better after each round.
I think that only some small things are left that need to be checked and eventually improved. IMHO the maps are almost ready to be used in more tournaments.
Although, I didn't play too many ZvPs and ZvTs throughout the tournament, the 3 and 4 player maps seem really good and that they allow not only classical, standard but also new, fresh strategies
to be employed. I only felt uncomfortable in a ZvT on one of the two player maps - Cross Game and that makes me unsure how bad/good for the zerg the two player maps will be in zvp and/or zvt.

Birdie: What is your favourite alcohol?

TechnicS: Although I don't drink lately, some pure Finlandia or Bushmills Malt xD

Birdie: Do you have any messages for your fans, or shoutouts to make?

TechnicS: Thanks everybody for watching and cheering for me! Also thanks to Freakling for his efforts on the maps! ^.^

Birdie: Thank you for the interview, and good luck in the rest of 2013!

TechnicS: Thanks and gl hf in 2013, Birdie

EDIT
Third place match upload complete:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaDZ6J4m_JA
Aannd finals is too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLAHa7ffVQs

traceurling

United States1240 Posts

January 30 2013 03:42 GMT

#24

Thanks birdie

NotJumperer

United States1371 Posts

January 30 2013 09:31 GMT

#25

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pebble444

Italy2497 Posts

January 30 2013 09:41 GMT

#26

Thanx to all the people involved in this Tournament, it was nice to watch and play in as well. I liked the double elimination bracket for the group stages; Nice to have it only there and not in RO16 and so on. Can' t say too much about the maps, only practiced wall-in on on Cross game PvZ, quite easy TBH, maybe a little more space behind the wall would be nice since its reverse ramp, like Jade. Was really cool to play vs Sziky on that map

. Melting pot seems like an interesting map with the double bridges, again havn' t played it more than twice so can' t really tell. Thanx also for the casts. GG' s and looking foward to seeing and playing in future Tournaments of this kind.

LRM)INF3cted

Bulgaria242 Posts

January 30 2013 13:48 GMT

#27

TechnicS imba

((( Awesome tournament we a waiting for the next one ! Maps was great hope mapmakers can balanced even more , still good job guys i watch most of the games and i was really enjoying the cast.

Freakling

Germany1529 Posts

February 01 2013 16:22 GMT

#28

I started some final write-up on the tourney, and would appreciate as many opinions by players and followers as possible.

GeckoVOD

Germany814 Posts

February 01 2013 17:25 GMT

#29

On February 02 2013 01:22 Freakling wrote:
I started some final write-up on the tourney, and would appreciate as many opinions by players and followers as possible.

Statistics and game lists would be nice!

traceurling

United States1240 Posts

February 01 2013 21:04 GMT

#30

I've kept map stats and the match list through out the tourney, here they are.
BWMN Map Statistics*
Although these statistics are nice, they aren't fully indicative of map balance for a couple reasons:
1.) Zergs. There were a lot of high level Zergs(as the level of foreigner Zerg play seems to be higher then other races) in this tournament, with TechnicS, TrutaCz, and Skizy being the top finishers, and with the highest non-Zerg player being a C+ Terran who created a lot of entertaining bunker rushes(I love your playstyle Radley)
2.) Small sample size. There were in total, 140 games played, with 45 ZvZs, 6 TvTs, and 4 PvPs. With 85 non mirror games, across 6 maps, that averages to about 14 games per map, and then further divided into MUs thats an average of 2.4 games per MU per map. While the stats are better than some of the last proleague maps, further testing will be needed to determine map balance.

In summation, these map stats are nice, but they aren't 100% reliable and further testing needs to be done before judgment can be passed on these maps.

* It took me quite a while to compile these stats, and it was really frustrating as each time I checked them, I would find some discrepancy. I have checked these final stats 5 times so I'm about 98% sure they are accurate, and any innaccuracy would only be like 2-3 games...

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