I was just gonna steal your format again but when I saw a Canata/Fantasy TvT I decided I didn't want to be up all night. Turned out to not be too bad though :D
On August 26 2012 15:26 Thratur wrote: Lol I'm far from the best, I'm just a backup for when there is no thread which has been sadly too common this last month T_T
Well that makes you a hero anyway. It's just so hard to commit to a thread for me, especially if its the second match that's going to go to 4-5 am and I'm not particularly interested.
You're definitely some sort of batman for doing this all the time :D
On August 26 2012 16:39 PoP wrote: That made absolutely no sense. Such a terrible matchup this is atm.
(Came back in time for the end)
It's pretty much. Terran is really good in smallish armies, and so wants the maximum number of small battles possible. In Zerg vs Zerg, there's the ling/baneling phase, and then once infestors are out it's easy for the zerg to send a few roaches to harass and force bad positions. And of course TvZ is a good MU.
But Protoss just wants a big ball of lasers. They have no incentive to split up their army at all. In non-mirrors, that's fine. The other player has to force the Protoss to break up the ball, so it works. But in PvP? "I want a big deathball" "Well, me too" 'Okay then".
Bluh. Hate it.
And now it's another one for the ACE.
I'm still going to watch it, because I want Ace to knock SKT out of playoffs. But I'm not going to enjoy it
It's pretty much. Terran is really good in smallish armies, and so wants the maximum number of small battles possible. In Zerg vs Zerg, there's the ling/baneling phase, and then once infestors are out it's easy for the zerg to send a few roaches to harass and force bad positions. And of course TvZ is a good MU.
But Protoss just wants a big ball of lasers. They have no incentive to split up their army at all. In non-mirrors, that's fine. The other player has to force the Protoss to break up the ball, so it works. But in PvP? "I want a big deathball" "Well, me too" 'Okay then".
Bluh. Hate it.
And now it's another one for the ACE.
I'm still going to watch it, because I want Ace to knock SKT out of playoffs. But I'm not going to enjoy it :
(
Haha I think that was very well said. Good point :D
It's pretty much. Terran is really good in smallish armies, and so wants the maximum number of small battles possible. In Zerg vs Zerg, there's the ling/baneling phase, and then once infestors are out it's easy for the zerg to send a few roaches to harass and force bad positions. And of course TvZ is a good MU.
But Protoss just wants a big ball of lasers. They have no incentive to split up their army at all. In non-mirrors, that's fine. The other player has to force the Protoss to break up the ball, so it works. But in PvP? "I want a big deathball" "Well, me too" 'Okay then".
Bluh. Hate it.
And now it's another one for the ACE.
I'm still going to watch it, because I want Ace to knock SKT out of playoffs. But I'm not going to enjoy it :
(
Haha I think that was very well said. Good point :D
I'm starting to see Creator mix in more zealot harass since he knows he has a concave and can't be attacked, and using it to get good positioning. I'm hoping that catches on, if only because then something will be happening. But for now, people are just building a deathball the size of a tangerine. I'm hoping the HotS will fix PvP, because the Tangerine looks like it can counter tripods. But I'm not optimistic. Because some men aren't designing the game based on anything logical. They just want a tangerine.
On August 26 2012 16:52 ShiroKaisen wrote: Hopefully the Tempest will force P to break up dem deathballs by being able to snipe colossi from long range. I BELIEVE.
Eh, the nature of Tempest forces players to conglomerate units around them; to guard them, which is basically a deathball with a slightly different composition.
On August 26 2012 16:57 Dodgin wrote: If we lose I'm going to say we should have used Bisu or Fantasy, as irrational as it is to suggest such a thing =/
Maybe should have used Bisu and Fantasy! Even in Sc2, I'm sure they could manage a win if its 2v1
On August 26 2012 16:56 jaQi wrote: This match is great, it summarizes the whole season from SKT1. This is why they are in that position.
1. Looking at lineup's: SKT1 looks better. 2. They win BW. 3. They lose in SC2. 4. At the end it depends whether Sun wins the acematch or not.
If they miss the playoffs it is their own fault.
I can't disagree with you.
Personally I was surprised SKT took as long as they did to get an experienced SC2 coach on board. They may have been talking to Boxer for a while, I'm not sure, but I can't help but feel that they missed a trick by waiting as long as they did.
On August 26 2012 16:52 ShiroKaisen wrote: Hopefully the Tempest will force P to break up dem deathballs by being able to snipe colossi from long range. I BELIEVE.
Eh, the nature of Tempest forces players to conglomerate units around them; to guard them, which is basically a deathball with a slightly different composition.
A deathball that kills things slowly > A deathball that kills things quickly.
On August 26 2012 16:57 Dodgin wrote: If we lose I'm going to say we should have used Bisu or Fantasy, as irrational as it is to suggest such a thing =/
Maybe should have used Bisu and Fantasy! Even in Sc2, I'm sure they could manage a win if its 2v1
Hmm, yeah. Sounds legit.
This is about to feel like 2010-2011 PL finals all over again I think...
Sun has favoured blink stalker builds in the most recent PvPs I've watched him play. If he goes that again today at least it'll be over quickly either way.
On August 26 2012 16:52 ShiroKaisen wrote: Hopefully the Tempest will force P to break up dem deathballs by being able to snipe colossi from long range. I BELIEVE.
Eh, the nature of Tempest forces players to conglomerate units around them; to guard them, which is basically a deathball with a slightly different composition.
It really depends on how the Tempest's stats are changed and on maps. If we get more Daybreak-esque maps with lots of dead space or some maps with lots of cliffs and stuff, you could have some cool positional play with them and dodge ending up in a straight fight ever, even without backup.
Good for SKT, as hilarious as it would've been to see ACE knock them out, they really do deserve to be in playoffs. Especially now that they have the EMPEROR on their side.
On August 26 2012 17:17 Jindo wrote: playoff begin next week 9/1 grand final 9/22
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU Worst day to have GF On my birthday and I have to go to a wedding...sigh, guess I won't be able to watch it live. What a shame
I was so happy too, after reading that we're in the PO, now I'm sad
I'm not sure what was going on, but almost immediately after the match BeSt and one of the B-teamers that I didn't recognize walked out. BeSt was overwhelmed with tears, to the point of falling against the wall and having to be helped along a couple times.
Hope nothing serious has happened to him, as well.
On August 26 2012 17:22 ShiroKaisen wrote: Good for SKT, as hilarious as it would've been to see ACE knock them out, they really do deserve to be in playoffs. Especially now that they have the EMPEROR on their side.
Unfortunately, they're gonna lose 2-1 to Team 8~
Correct me if i'm wrong but SKT finished first, they're the only team with 13 wins. So if i'm right they're guaranteed to be in the grand finals.
On August 26 2012 17:22 ShiroKaisen wrote: Good for SKT, as hilarious as it would've been to see ACE knock them out, they really do deserve to be in playoffs. Especially now that they have the EMPEROR on their side.
Unfortunately, they're gonna lose 2-1 to Team 8~
Correct me if i'm wrong but SKT finished first, they're the only team with 13 wins. So if i'm right they're guaranteed to be in the grand finals.
On August 26 2012 17:22 ShiroKaisen wrote: Good for SKT, as hilarious as it would've been to see ACE knock them out, they really do deserve to be in playoffs. Especially now that they have the EMPEROR on their side.
Unfortunately, they're gonna lose 2-1 to Team 8~
Correct me if i'm wrong but SKT finished first, they're the only team with 13 wins. So if i'm right they're guaranteed to be in the grand finals.
no they finished fourth, 12-9.
As someone said earlier, all teams in playoffs ar 12-9, just match differentials.
On August 26 2012 17:22 ShiroKaisen wrote: Good for SKT, as hilarious as it would've been to see ACE knock them out, they really do deserve to be in playoffs. Especially now that they have the EMPEROR on their side.
Unfortunately, they're gonna lose 2-1 to Team 8~
Correct me if i'm wrong but SKT finished first, they're the only team with 13 wins. So if i'm right they're guaranteed to be in the grand finals.
There's that site called Liquipedia, you know.
Yea I thought they hadn't added today's result because it said updated as of August 25th.
Really impressive considering that T1 was extremely late to sc2 because of having the grand final last season. Great Job from the players,coaching staffs and espeally Sun. =D
On August 26 2012 17:17 Jindo wrote: playoff begin next week 9/1 grand final 9/22
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU Worst day to have GF On my birthday and I have to go to a wedding...sigh, guess I won't be able to watch it live. What a shame
I was so happy too, after reading that we're in the PO, now I'm sad
Pretty much. I'm going to be packing/on a flight/traveling the whole day. Will probably miss it :|
On August 26 2012 17:17 Jindo wrote: playoff begin next week 9/1 grand final 9/22
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU Worst day to have GF On my birthday and I have to go to a wedding...sigh, guess I won't be able to watch it live. What a shame
I was so happy too, after reading that we're in the PO, now I'm sad
On August 27 2012 01:37 Kiett wrote:
Pretty much. I'm going to be packing/on a flight/traveling the whole day. Will probably miss it :|
Man you can't do that, wouldn't be fun to have a LR thread without having the whole gang together for GF
Christ...I took a look at the sc 2 games and even the commentators are having trouble keeping stuff interesting... they just can do nothing but mumble that the game is over and their over excitement for a battle or even a early game skirmish is met with silence because the majority of the audience left and no one can tell what the hell is going on because of the idiotic death ball mechanic...
when the heck will the gaming industry learn...graphics never > gameplay/plot the difference between bw and sc2 is staggering...
On August 26 2012 23:08 Dansickle wrote: I'm not sure what was going on, but almost immediately after the match BeSt and one of the B-teamers that I didn't recognize walked out. BeSt was overwhelmed with tears, to the point of falling against the wall and having to be helped along a couple times.
Hope nothing serious has happened to him, as well.
On August 26 2012 23:08 Dansickle wrote: I'm not sure what was going on, but almost immediately after the match BeSt and one of the B-teamers that I didn't recognize walked out. BeSt was overwhelmed with tears, to the point of falling against the wall and having to be helped along a couple times.
Hope nothing serious has happened to him, as well.
On August 26 2012 17:17 Jindo wrote: playoff begin next week 9/1 grand final 9/22
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU Worst day to have GF On my birthday and I have to go to a wedding...sigh, guess I won't be able to watch it live. What a shame
I was so happy too, after reading that we're in the PO, now I'm sad
Pretty much. I'm going to be packing/on a flight/traveling the whole day. Will probably miss it :|
On August 26 2012 17:22 ShiroKaisen wrote: Good for SKT, as hilarious as it would've been to see ACE knock them out, they really do deserve to be in playoffs. Especially now that they have the EMPEROR on their side.
Unfortunately, they're gonna lose 2-1 to Team 8~
Correct me if i'm wrong but SKT finished first, they're the only team with 13 wins. So if i'm right they're guaranteed to be in the grand finals.
There's that site called Liquipedia, you know.
looked at the last page of this thread to see if you posted the standings thanks!
On August 26 2012 17:17 Jindo wrote: playoff begin next week 9/1 grand final 9/22
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU Worst day to have GF On my birthday and I have to go to a wedding...sigh, guess I won't be able to watch it live. What a shame
I was so happy too, after reading that we're in the PO, now I'm sad
Pretty much. I'm going to be packing/on a flight/traveling the whole day. Will probably miss it :|
YES! no bisu fangirlism here! :D
I'm more then willing to cheer twice as hard on her behalf.