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Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 08:11:24
August 26 2012 06:10 GMT
#1

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(T)Fantasy <Neo Sniper Ridge> (T)Canata
(Z)soO <Neo Ground Zero> (P)Kal
(P)Bisu <Neo Jade> (Z)OriOn

(Z)Sacsri <ESV ClouD Kingdom> (T)Great
(P)Best <ESV Ohana LE> (P)GuemChi
(P)By.Sun <Antiga Shipyard> (Z)Peace

+ Show Spoiler [ACE match] +
(P)By.Sun <Entombed Valley> (P)Kal





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+ Show Spoiler +

(T)Fantasy <Neo Sniper Ridge> (T)Canata
(Z)soO <Neo Ground Zero> (P)Kal
(P)Bisu <Neo Jade> (Z)OriOn

(Z)Sacsri <ESV ClouD Kingdom> (T)Great
(P)Best <ESV Ohana LE> (P)GuemChi
(P)By.Sun <Antiga Shipyard> (Z)Peace

+ Show Spoiler [ACE match] +
(P)By.Sun <Entombed Valley> (P)Kal

SKT wins and advances!






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+ Show Spoiler [SC1 Game 1] +
Poll: Recommend set 1 (BW)?

Yes (12)
 
92%

No (1)
 
8%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend set 1 (BW)?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



+ Show Spoiler [SC1 Game 2] +
Poll: Recommend set 2 (BW)?

No (5)
 
83%

Yes (1)
 
17%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend set 2 (BW)?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



+ Show Spoiler [SC1 Game 3] +
Poll: Recommend set 3 (BW)?

Yes (5)
 
56%

No (4)
 
44%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend set 3 (BW)?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No




+ Show Spoiler [SC2 Game 1] +
Poll: Recommend set 1 (SC2)?

Yes (8)
 
67%

No (4)
 
33%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend set 1 (SC2)?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



+ Show Spoiler [SC2 Game 2] +
Poll: Recommend set 2 (SC2)?

Yes (6)
 
75%

No (2)
 
25%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend set 2 (SC2)?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



+ Show Spoiler [SC2 Game 3] +
Poll: Recommend set 3 (SC2)?

Yes (3)
 
50%

No (3)
 
50%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend set 3 (SC2)?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No




+ Show Spoiler [Ace Match] +
Poll: Recommend ACE match?

Yes (12)
 
80%

No (3)
 
20%

15 total votes

Your vote: Recommend ACE match?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No







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Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
August 26 2012 06:12 GMT
#2
Thanks for making

I was just gonna steal your format again but when I saw a Canata/Fantasy TvT I decided I didn't want to be up all night. Turned out to not be too bad though :D
Hellwitch
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada272 Posts
August 26 2012 06:12 GMT
#3
ACE fighting!
“I think the MVP title for today goes to Airman Firebathero because he is the one who grabbed the enemy commander and threw himself into the river.” - PianO
Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
August 26 2012 06:12 GMT
#4
Poll: Recommend set 1 (BW)?

Yes (12)
 
92%

No (1)
 
8%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend set 1 (BW)?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 26 2012 06:12 GMT
#5
thanks for the thread

skt fighting
dr0pship
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada520 Posts
August 26 2012 06:12 GMT
#6
huge engagement in the middle lasts for like a whole minute

Jindo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1305 Posts
August 26 2012 06:13 GMT
#7
nice aggression from Fantasy
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
August 26 2012 06:14 GMT
#8
Stars fighting.

SaveUs_Ace.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
August 26 2012 06:15 GMT
#9
Hopefully it's the last time these threads are late. Someone has to do something nicer for the playoffs...
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
August 26 2012 06:16 GMT
#10
Thanks for the thread.

Fantasy knows his ex-Captain well enough to want to avoid a long one.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 26 2012 06:18 GMT
#11
On August 26 2012 15:15 Thratur wrote:
Hopefully it's the last time these threads are late. Someone has to do something nicer for the playoffs...

what's the schedule for playoffs, anyone know?
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 06:25:43
August 26 2012 06:23 GMT
#12
On August 26 2012 15:18 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 15:15 Thratur wrote:
Hopefully it's the last time these threads are late. Someone has to do something nicer for the playoffs...

what's the schedule for playoffs, anyone know?

You do it opterown! Best LR thread creator in the business!!!

edit: no offense Thratur :D
Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
August 26 2012 06:26 GMT
#13
Lol I'm far from the best, I'm just a backup for when there is no thread which has been sadly too common this last month T_T
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
August 26 2012 06:30 GMT
#14
On August 26 2012 15:26 Thratur wrote:
Lol I'm far from the best, I'm just a backup for when there is no thread which has been sadly too common this last month T_T

Well that makes you a hero anyway. It's just so hard to commit to a thread for me, especially if its the second match that's going to go to 4-5 am and I'm not particularly interested.

You're definitely some sort of batman for doing this all the time :D
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
August 26 2012 06:30 GMT
#15
On August 26 2012 15:23 Bibbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 15:18 opterown wrote:
On August 26 2012 15:15 Thratur wrote:
Hopefully it's the last time these threads are late. Someone has to do something nicer for the playoffs...

what's the schedule for playoffs, anyone know?

You do it opterown! Best LR thread creator in the business!!!

edit: no offense Thratur :D


wat

I am offended.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
August 26 2012 06:32 GMT
#16
But BLinD-RawR, KT is not in the playoffs this time!
Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
August 26 2012 06:33 GMT
#17
Poll: Recommend set 2 (BW)?

No (5)
 
83%

Yes (1)
 
17%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend set 2 (BW)?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



Poll: Recommend set 3 (BW)?

Yes (5)
 
56%

No (4)
 
44%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend set 3 (BW)?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
August 26 2012 06:33 GMT
#18
On August 26 2012 15:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 15:23 Bibbit wrote:
On August 26 2012 15:18 opterown wrote:
On August 26 2012 15:15 Thratur wrote:
Hopefully it's the last time these threads are late. Someone has to do something nicer for the playoffs...

what's the schedule for playoffs, anyone know?

You do it opterown! Best LR thread creator in the business!!!

edit: no offense Thratur :D


wat

I am offended.

Sorry but opterown good unit!

Btw, there was a game happening, Soo won. Stars not looking too hot
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
August 26 2012 06:33 GMT
#19
On August 26 2012 15:32 Thratur wrote:
But BLinD-RawR, KT is not in the playoffs this time!


so?

I don't only do KT LR threads.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
August 26 2012 06:36 GMT
#20
:/ come on ACE you can beat them in SC2
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
August 26 2012 06:36 GMT
#21
On August 26 2012 15:33 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 15:32 Thratur wrote:
But BLinD-RawR, KT is not in the playoffs this time!


so?

I don't only do KT LR threads.

My bad then. I was just trying to make a small joke T_T
scrubtastic
Profile Joined May 2009
1166 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 06:37:34
August 26 2012 06:36 GMT
#22
Kal badly engages with his corsairs that he invested alot into and transitioned into getting hydra busted.

Not looking good for ACE or Stars - and I don't think SKT will show mercy in the SC2 matches either.
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
August 26 2012 06:37 GMT
#23
On August 26 2012 15:36 Thratur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 15:33 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On August 26 2012 15:32 Thratur wrote:
But BLinD-RawR, KT is not in the playoffs this time!


so?

I don't only do KT LR threads.

My bad then. I was just trying to make a small joke T_T

Jokes need at least two smiley faces at the end. It's science. Also this is serious business anyway!

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Obelisco
Profile Joined January 2011
Peru1962 Posts
August 26 2012 06:45 GMT
#24
(P)Bisu vs (Z)OriOn was 3rd set
Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
August 26 2012 06:45 GMT
#25
Set 3 would have been (P)Bisu vs (Z)OriOn
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
August 26 2012 06:47 GMT
#26
looks liek Bisu's practice on Fish was a waste lol
Writerptrk
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
August 26 2012 06:50 GMT
#27
Didn't know (T)Great played terran in SC2.
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
August 26 2012 07:04 GMT
#28
Sacsri's creep spread is pretty good.

And right as I compliment him, he misses all of Great's marines walking over his baneling landmine :|
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
August 26 2012 07:08 GMT
#29
Great is actually pretty great at Terran.

Who knew.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
August 26 2012 07:09 GMT
#30
T1 zergs for you <3
Administrator
Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
August 26 2012 07:10 GMT
#31
Poll: Recommend set 1 (SC2)?

Yes (8)
 
67%

No (4)
 
33%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend set 1 (SC2)?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


ShroudeD
Profile Joined August 2012
Greece1333 Posts
August 26 2012 07:11 GMT
#32
Best and Rain incoming!
Mvp,Fantasy 4ever
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
August 26 2012 07:11 GMT
#33
Not bad. Pretty impressed by Great. That is how you play tvz in sc2. Force zerg to their multitasking limits.
The Notorious Winkles
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
August 26 2012 07:11 GMT
#34
On August 26 2012 16:08 Fionn wrote:
Great is actually pretty great at Terran.

Who knew.


Great Terran play is fun to watch. Battles all over the map all the time.
GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
August 26 2012 07:12 GMT
#35
An army of 20 marines on the way = final straw for sacsri
oOOoOphidian
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1402 Posts
August 26 2012 07:19 GMT
#36
pro-teams you better pick up Great!
Creator of sc2unmasked.com
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
August 26 2012 07:23 GMT
#37
Welp, PvP. I'm out.
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
August 26 2012 07:24 GMT
#38
On August 26 2012 16:23 Ribbon wrote:
Welp, PvP. I'm out.

But but...best is the best!
The Notorious Winkles
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
August 26 2012 07:24 GMT
#39
let's see how best's sc2 is coming along
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
August 26 2012 07:37 GMT
#40
SKT's season comes down to one game.

One game away from the first grand finals without SKT in four years.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Tsutchie
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia951 Posts
August 26 2012 07:38 GMT
#41
best... the best choker in the entire world.
Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
August 26 2012 07:39 GMT
#42
Poll: Recommend set 2 (SC2)?

Yes (6)
 
75%

No (2)
 
25%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend set 2 (SC2)?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



Poll: Recommend set 3 (SC2)?

Yes (3)
 
50%

No (3)
 
50%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend set 3 (SC2)?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
August 26 2012 07:39 GMT
#43
jesus skt, wtf you doing
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
August 26 2012 07:39 GMT
#44
That made absolutely no sense. Such a terrible matchup this is atm.
Administrator
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 26 2012 07:39 GMT
#45
oh god -_- you better win for us sun
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
August 26 2012 07:39 GMT
#46
Time for By.Sun vs. Xandu.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
August 26 2012 07:40 GMT
#47
sayle: "please send bisu and lose"

YES PLEASE ^_^
The Notorious Winkles
8mmspikes
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1704 Posts
August 26 2012 07:40 GMT
#48
ACE I BELIEVE
Suppy fan | ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ WELL MET ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ | http://www.twitter.com/8mmspikes
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
August 26 2012 07:41 GMT
#49
One game to decide whether SKT is in the playoffs, or not.

No pressure, by.Sun.
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
lbmaian
Profile Joined December 2010
United States689 Posts
August 26 2012 07:41 GMT
#50
Yup, PvP is still the worst SC2 matchup... Early game can be interesting, but late game is just horrible.
ShroudeD
Profile Joined August 2012
Greece1333 Posts
August 26 2012 07:41 GMT
#51
No more pvps goddamit
Mvp,Fantasy 4ever
village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
August 26 2012 07:43 GMT
#52
PvP is total pain for spectators.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
August 26 2012 07:43 GMT
#53
Go, Kal.

Kill KT and SKT.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
August 26 2012 07:43 GMT
#54
C'mon Sun. Be clutch again. Gooooo Suuuun!!!!
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
8mmspikes
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1704 Posts
August 26 2012 07:43 GMT
#55
GOOOOOJILLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Suppy fan | ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ WELL MET ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ | http://www.twitter.com/8mmspikes
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
August 26 2012 07:44 GMT
#56
Three years of KT/SKT.

Kal can kill both in two weeks and save Proleague.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
August 26 2012 07:44 GMT
#57
On August 26 2012 16:39 PoP wrote:
That made absolutely no sense. Such a terrible matchup this is atm.


(Came back in time for the end)

It's pretty much. Terran is really good in smallish armies, and so wants the maximum number of small battles possible.
In Zerg vs Zerg, there's the ling/baneling phase, and then once infestors are out it's easy for the zerg to send a few roaches to harass and force bad positions. And of course TvZ is a good MU.

But Protoss just wants a big ball of lasers. They have no incentive to split up their army at all. In non-mirrors, that's fine. The other player has to force the Protoss to break up the ball, so it works. But in PvP? "I want a big deathball" "Well, me too" 'Okay then".

Bluh. Hate it.

And now it's another one for the ACE.

I'm still going to watch it, because I want Ace to knock SKT out of playoffs. But I'm not going to enjoy it
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 07:46:56
August 26 2012 07:46 GMT
#58
On August 26 2012 16:44 Ribbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 16:39 PoP wrote:
That made absolutely no sense. Such a terrible matchup this is atm.


+ Show Spoiler +
(Came back in time for the end)

It's pretty much. Terran is really good in smallish armies, and so wants the maximum number of small battles possible.
In Zerg vs Zerg, there's the ling/baneling phase, and then once infestors are out it's easy for the zerg to send a few roaches to harass and force bad positions. And of course TvZ is a good MU.

But Protoss just wants a big ball of lasers. They have no incentive to split up their army at all. In non-mirrors, that's fine. The other player has to force the Protoss to break up the ball, so it works. But in PvP? "I want a big deathball" "Well, me too" 'Okay then".

Bluh. Hate it.

And now it's another one for the ACE.

I'm still going to watch it, because I want Ace to knock SKT out of playoffs. But I'm not going to enjoy it :
(

Haha I think that was very well said. Good point :D
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
August 26 2012 07:51 GMT
#59
In Sun we trust.

SKT hwaiting!!
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
August 26 2012 07:51 GMT
#60
On August 26 2012 16:46 Bibbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 16:44 Ribbon wrote:
On August 26 2012 16:39 PoP wrote:
That made absolutely no sense. Such a terrible matchup this is atm.


+ Show Spoiler +
(Came back in time for the end)

It's pretty much. Terran is really good in smallish armies, and so wants the maximum number of small battles possible.
In Zerg vs Zerg, there's the ling/baneling phase, and then once infestors are out it's easy for the zerg to send a few roaches to harass and force bad positions. And of course TvZ is a good MU.

But Protoss just wants a big ball of lasers. They have no incentive to split up their army at all. In non-mirrors, that's fine. The other player has to force the Protoss to break up the ball, so it works. But in PvP? "I want a big deathball" "Well, me too" 'Okay then".

Bluh. Hate it.

And now it's another one for the ACE.

I'm still going to watch it, because I want Ace to knock SKT out of playoffs. But I'm not going to enjoy it :
(

Haha I think that was very well said. Good point :D


I'm starting to see Creator mix in more zealot harass since he knows he has a concave and can't be attacked, and using it to get good positioning. I'm hoping that catches on, if only because then something will be happening. But for now, people are just building a deathball the size of a tangerine. I'm hoping the HotS will fix PvP, because the Tangerine looks like it can counter tripods. But I'm not optimistic. Because some men aren't designing the game based on anything logical. They just want a tangerine.
ShiroKaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1082 Posts
August 26 2012 07:52 GMT
#61
Hopefully the Tempest will force P to break up dem deathballs by being able to snipe colossi from long range. I BELIEVE.

Also, Kal has the potential to completely wreck a ton of people's day right now. This could be ridiculous.
Dame da na, zenzen dame da ze!
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 07:54:20
August 26 2012 07:53 GMT
#62
Tangerine good unit?

edit: Would have made sense if it was on the same page as wtf I was talking about T_T
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
August 26 2012 07:55 GMT
#63
On August 26 2012 16:53 Bibbit wrote:
Tangerine good unit?

edit: Would have made sense if it was on the same page as wtf I was talking about T_T


If you weren't watching Sayle's stream, it didn't make any tangerines anyway.
jaQi
Profile Joined December 2010
1121 Posts
August 26 2012 07:56 GMT
#64
This match is great, it summarizes the whole season from SKT1. This is why they are in that position.

1. Looking at lineup's: SKT1 looks better.
2. They win BW.
3. They lose in SC2.
4. At the end it depends whether Sun wins the acematch or not.

If they miss the playoffs it is their own fault.
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
August 26 2012 07:57 GMT
#65
On August 26 2012 16:55 Ribbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 16:53 Bibbit wrote:
Tangerine good unit?

edit: Would have made sense if it was on the same page as wtf I was talking about T_T


If you weren't watching Sayle's stream, it didn't make any tangerines anyway.

Ah. I'm not, but I can guess which unit looks like a tangerine ^^
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 26 2012 07:57 GMT
#66
If we lose I'm going to say we should have used Bisu or Fantasy, as irrational as it is to suggest such a thing =/
GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
August 26 2012 07:57 GMT
#67
Zzz half of best's tripods were attacking buildings?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
August 26 2012 07:57 GMT
#68
hahahaha wow, SKT's season is on the line in PvP... the most random matchup :D Let's go for a straight build order win, Kal!
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
August 26 2012 07:57 GMT
#69
On August 26 2012 16:52 ShiroKaisen wrote:
Hopefully the Tempest will force P to break up dem deathballs by being able to snipe colossi from long range. I BELIEVE.

Eh, the nature of Tempest forces players to conglomerate units around them; to guard them, which is basically a deathball with a slightly different composition.
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
August 26 2012 07:58 GMT
#70
On August 26 2012 16:57 Dodgin wrote:
If we lose I'm going to say we should have used Bisu or Fantasy, as irrational as it is to suggest such a thing =/

Maybe should have used Bisu and Fantasy! Even in Sc2, I'm sure they could manage a win if its 2v1
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
August 26 2012 07:58 GMT
#71
Alright Kal. Win. It'll be funny.

And if you can't win, at least do something fun
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
August 26 2012 07:58 GMT
#72
On August 26 2012 16:56 jaQi wrote:
This match is great, it summarizes the whole season from SKT1. This is why they are in that position.

1. Looking at lineup's: SKT1 looks better.
2. They win BW.
3. They lose in SC2.
4. At the end it depends whether Sun wins the acematch or not.

If they miss the playoffs it is their own fault.


I can't disagree with you.

Personally I was surprised SKT took as long as they did to get an experienced SC2 coach on board. They may have been talking to Boxer for a while, I'm not sure, but I can't help but feel that they missed a trick by waiting as long as they did.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
August 26 2012 07:59 GMT
#73
SKT FIGHTING!!!!

Kal, i heard mothership rush is good, DO IT.
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
August 26 2012 07:59 GMT
#74
On August 26 2012 16:57 Hier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 16:52 ShiroKaisen wrote:
Hopefully the Tempest will force P to break up dem deathballs by being able to snipe colossi from long range. I BELIEVE.

Eh, the nature of Tempest forces players to conglomerate units around them; to guard them, which is basically a deathball with a slightly different composition.


A deathball that kills things slowly > A deathball that kills things quickly.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 26 2012 07:59 GMT
#75
On August 26 2012 16:58 Bibbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 16:57 Dodgin wrote:
If we lose I'm going to say we should have used Bisu or Fantasy, as irrational as it is to suggest such a thing =/

Maybe should have used Bisu and Fantasy! Even in Sc2, I'm sure they could manage a win if its 2v1


Hmm, yeah. Sounds legit.

This is about to feel like 2010-2011 PL finals all over again I think...
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
August 26 2012 08:00 GMT
#76
Sun has favoured blink stalker builds in the most recent PvPs I've watched him play. If he goes that again today at least it'll be over quickly either way.
ShiroKaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1082 Posts
August 26 2012 08:00 GMT
#77
On August 26 2012 16:57 Hier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 16:52 ShiroKaisen wrote:
Hopefully the Tempest will force P to break up dem deathballs by being able to snipe colossi from long range. I BELIEVE.

Eh, the nature of Tempest forces players to conglomerate units around them; to guard them, which is basically a deathball with a slightly different composition.


It really depends on how the Tempest's stats are changed and on maps. If we get more Daybreak-esque maps with lots of dead space or some maps with lots of cliffs and stuff, you could have some cool positional play with them and dodge ending up in a straight fight ever, even without backup.
Dame da na, zenzen dame da ze!
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
August 26 2012 08:01 GMT
#78
oh damn, stargate > robo no? hope he just gets it for observer and goes blink or something.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 26 2012 08:01 GMT
#79
Build order advantage for Sun, stargate vs robo.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
August 26 2012 08:06 GMT
#80
LET'S GO SUN YOU CAN DO IT
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
ShroudeD
Profile Joined August 2012
Greece1333 Posts
August 26 2012 08:07 GMT
#81
YES SUN WOOHOO
Mvp,Fantasy 4ever
Jindo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1305 Posts
August 26 2012 08:07 GMT
#82
SKT T1 !!!!!!!!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 26 2012 08:07 GMT
#83
On August 26 2012 16:44 Fionn wrote:
Three years of KT/SKT.

Kal can kill both in two weeks and save Proleague.


NOT TODAY
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
August 26 2012 08:07 GMT
#84
w00t gogo skt
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
August 26 2012 08:07 GMT
#85
SKTEEEE
Administrator
Caesarion
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia8332 Posts
August 26 2012 08:08 GMT
#86
Congrats SKT
Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
August 26 2012 08:08 GMT
#87
Poll: Recommend ACE match?

Yes (12)
 
80%

No (3)
 
20%

15 total votes

Your vote: Recommend ACE match?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


sinistral
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore859 Posts
August 26 2012 08:08 GMT
#88
FUCK YEAH
(´・ω・`)
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
August 26 2012 08:08 GMT
#89
hardly any blink micro by Kal. that was hardly doable anyway. too many zealots. gg grats SKT1
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
August 26 2012 08:09 GMT
#90
Aw so close

Gratz SKT !
haka
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1414 Posts
August 26 2012 08:09 GMT
#91
YES YES YES

RAIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
August 26 2012 08:09 GMT
#92
Sun I could farken kiss you!

GG ACE.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
August 26 2012 08:09 GMT
#93
Suuuuuuuuun

carrying SKT on his slender shoulders.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
August 26 2012 08:09 GMT
#94
hell yes :D
Writerptrk
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
August 26 2012 08:10 GMT
#95
SKT is going to be a bitch to beat in the playoffs.

Fantasy/Bisu in BW and Rain in SC2/Ace? Fuck.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
xxxxxxb
Profile Joined October 2009
155 Posts
August 26 2012 08:10 GMT
#96
Bleh.
scrubtastic
Profile Joined May 2009
1166 Posts
August 26 2012 08:10 GMT
#97
Grats SKT.

Aw shit is T8 third? Sadface - hope they can prep well vs SKT
thanhbao86
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada199 Posts
August 26 2012 08:11 GMT
#98
well that was scary but at the end it was all good. SKT fighting. by.Sun Fighting and Bisu fighting.
Fat Dragoon
Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 08:12:27
August 26 2012 08:11 GMT
#99
Set 6 would have been (P)By.Sun vs (Z)Peace
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
August 26 2012 08:14 GMT
#100
All 4 teams that are in the playoffs are 12-9 in the regular season.
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
Kieofire
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1809 Posts
August 26 2012 08:15 GMT
#101
On August 26 2012 17:11 Thratur wrote:
Set 6 would have been (P)By.Sun vs (Z)Peace


Thank you, was wondering who was going to be playing so I could update liquipedia.
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
August 26 2012 08:15 GMT
#102
I still don't understand why Team 8 got shafted by a set in the standings, but oh well...
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
August 26 2012 08:17 GMT
#103
While I didn't agree with the hybrid format to Season 2, it certainly made for a close round-robin.
Sumsi
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany593 Posts
August 26 2012 08:17 GMT
#104
Damn, that was close !
moin
Jindo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1305 Posts
August 26 2012 08:17 GMT
#105
playoff begin next week 9/1
grand final 9/22
whirlpool
Profile Joined June 2011
2788 Posts
August 26 2012 08:19 GMT
#106
gratz T1 !
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2333 Posts
August 26 2012 08:20 GMT
#107
Anyone know the name of the song that played just before the Violet tribute?
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
August 26 2012 08:20 GMT
#108
daughtry - home
s3x2-2 xiao3x2+2 bone3+2+2
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
August 26 2012 08:21 GMT
#109
On August 26 2012 17:10 scrubtastic wrote:
Grats SKT.

Aw shit is T8 third? Sadface - hope they can prep well vs SKT


Bisu vs Jaedong matches most likely?
에일리 and 아이유 <3 - O Captain 박재혁 ・゚✧*:・*゚+..。✧・゚:*・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚* ゜・*:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING ・゜・:・゚✧*:・゚✧。*゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:*・゜・:・゚✧*::
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1707 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 08:21:58
August 26 2012 08:21 GMT
#110
so happy that skt advances to the play-offs it's a huge climb from the bottom...

go go sun! you truly are the new skt ace! yey! happy for boxer as well
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
ShiroKaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1082 Posts
August 26 2012 08:22 GMT
#111
Good for SKT, as hilarious as it would've been to see ACE knock them out, they really do deserve to be in playoffs. Especially now that they have the EMPEROR on their side.

Unfortunately, they're gonna lose 2-1 to Team 8~
Dame da na, zenzen dame da ze!
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2333 Posts
August 26 2012 08:24 GMT
#112
On August 26 2012 17:20 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
daughtry - home


The song when PL was just finishing... before the tribute came on which was a tear jerker btw!
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18407 Posts
August 26 2012 08:42 GMT
#113
Stars out of another playoffs lol.
Tsutchie
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia951 Posts
August 26 2012 09:31 GMT
#114
On August 26 2012 17:42 sharkie wrote:
Stars out of another playoffs lol.


they fizzled out hard at the end there.
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
August 26 2012 09:47 GMT
#115
Wth Firebathero doesn't play anymore in SPL ? T.T
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
August 26 2012 09:48 GMT
#116
On August 26 2012 18:47 Glioburd wrote:
Wth Firebathero doesn't play anymore in SPL ? T.T


he's getting out of the air force very soon
Writer
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 10:02:17
August 26 2012 10:01 GMT
#117
Same story last season. We are now the barely-not-made-playoffs-twice team. Congrats, SKT!
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
alone
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland410 Posts
August 26 2012 10:36 GMT
#118
F yeah SKT!
Hyeon
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Korea (South)462 Posts
August 26 2012 12:50 GMT
#119
FOCK SKT YESSSSSS
oO
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 13:00:58
August 26 2012 13:00 GMT
#120
On August 26 2012 17:17 Jindo wrote:
playoff begin next week 9/1
grand final 9/22

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Worst day to have GF
On my birthday and I have to go to a wedding...sigh, guess I won't be able to watch it live. What a shame

I was so happy too, after reading that we're in the PO, now I'm sad
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
elagrion
Profile Joined April 2010
Ukraine422 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 13:40:43
August 26 2012 13:40 GMT
#121
On August 26 2012 19:01 figq wrote:
Same story last season. We are now the barely-not-made-playoffs-twice team. Congrats, SKT!

I blame T8. Hope they wins whole thing.
Everything is a remix.
Dansickle
Profile Joined November 2009
177 Posts
August 26 2012 14:08 GMT
#122
I'm not sure what was going on, but almost immediately after the match (P)BeSt and one of the B-teamers that I didn't recognize walked out. (P)BeSt was overwhelmed with tears, to the point of falling against the wall and having to be helped along a couple times.

Hope nothing serious has happened to him, as well.
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
August 26 2012 15:39 GMT
#123
On August 26 2012 17:22 ShiroKaisen wrote:
Good for SKT, as hilarious as it would've been to see ACE knock them out, they really do deserve to be in playoffs. Especially now that they have the EMPEROR on their side.

Unfortunately, they're gonna lose 2-1 to Team 8~


Correct me if i'm wrong but SKT finished first, they're the only team with 13 wins. So if i'm right they're guaranteed to be in the grand finals.
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10158 Posts
August 26 2012 15:44 GMT
#124
Damn it ace
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
chuDr3t4
Profile Joined April 2010
Russian Federation484 Posts
August 26 2012 15:51 GMT
#125
On August 27 2012 00:39 Dionyseus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 17:22 ShiroKaisen wrote:
Good for SKT, as hilarious as it would've been to see ACE knock them out, they really do deserve to be in playoffs. Especially now that they have the EMPEROR on their side.

Unfortunately, they're gonna lose 2-1 to Team 8~


Correct me if i'm wrong but SKT finished first, they're the only team with 13 wins. So if i'm right they're guaranteed to be in the grand finals.

There's that site called Liquipedia, you know.

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I live in Russia. I wear the fufaika, valenoks and the shapka-ushanka with the red star. I drink vodka straight from the samovar, and my riding bear plays on the balalaika.
henzi
Profile Joined November 2010
United States200 Posts
August 26 2012 15:52 GMT
#126
On August 27 2012 00:39 Dionyseus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 17:22 ShiroKaisen wrote:
Good for SKT, as hilarious as it would've been to see ACE knock them out, they really do deserve to be in playoffs. Especially now that they have the EMPEROR on their side.

Unfortunately, they're gonna lose 2-1 to Team 8~


Correct me if i'm wrong but SKT finished first, they're the only team with 13 wins. So if i'm right they're guaranteed to be in the grand finals.


no they finished fourth, 12-9.

As someone said earlier, all teams in playoffs ar 12-9, just match differentials.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
August 26 2012 15:57 GMT
#127
Khan vs SKT final.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
chuDr3t4
Profile Joined April 2010
Russian Federation484 Posts
August 26 2012 16:02 GMT
#128
[image loading]
I live in Russia. I wear the fufaika, valenoks and the shapka-ushanka with the red star. I drink vodka straight from the samovar, and my riding bear plays on the balalaika.
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
August 26 2012 16:04 GMT
#129
On August 27 2012 00:51 chuDr3t4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 00:39 Dionyseus wrote:
On August 26 2012 17:22 ShiroKaisen wrote:
Good for SKT, as hilarious as it would've been to see ACE knock them out, they really do deserve to be in playoffs. Especially now that they have the EMPEROR on their side.

Unfortunately, they're gonna lose 2-1 to Team 8~


Correct me if i'm wrong but SKT finished first, they're the only team with 13 wins. So if i'm right they're guaranteed to be in the grand finals.

There's that site called Liquipedia, you know.

[image loading]

Yea I thought they hadn't added today's result because it said updated as of August 25th.
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19237 Posts
August 26 2012 16:20 GMT
#130
I can't believe that last game brought tears to my eyes. I'm so happy for SKT. They worked so hard to fight their way back into this!!!!!!!!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
August 26 2012 16:28 GMT
#131
Really impressive considering that T1 was extremely late to sc2 because of having the grand final last season. Great Job from the players,coaching staffs and espeally Sun. =D
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
August 26 2012 16:37 GMT
#132
On August 26 2012 22:00 Hyde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 17:17 Jindo wrote:
playoff begin next week 9/1
grand final 9/22

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Worst day to have GF
On my birthday and I have to go to a wedding...sigh, guess I won't be able to watch it live. What a shame

I was so happy too, after reading that we're in the PO, now I'm sad

Pretty much. I'm going to be packing/on a flight/traveling the whole day. Will probably miss it :|
Writer:o
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
August 26 2012 17:04 GMT
#133
Team 8 v SKT gonna be sick
Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
August 26 2012 19:43 GMT
#134
On August 26 2012 22:00 Hyde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 17:17 Jindo wrote:
playoff begin next week 9/1
grand final 9/22

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Worst day to have GF
On my birthday and I have to go to a wedding...sigh, guess I won't be able to watch it live. What a shame

I was so happy too, after reading that we're in the PO, now I'm sad

On August 27 2012 01:37 Kiett wrote:

Pretty much. I'm going to be packing/on a flight/traveling the whole day. Will probably miss it :|


Man you can't do that, wouldn't be fun to have a LR thread without having the whole gang together for GF
なまいきになんなよ~ Don't be too stakka~ ☆ SKT Harlequin ☆ n.Die_soO Hoppin You ♪ 愛 am BeSt ♪ ワイフ♥小早川りんこ
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
August 26 2012 22:51 GMT
#135
Christ...I took a look at the sc 2 games and even the commentators are having trouble keeping stuff interesting... they just can do nothing but mumble that the game is over and their over excitement for a battle or even a early game skirmish is met with silence because the majority of the audience left and no one can tell what the hell is going on because of the idiotic death ball mechanic...

when the heck will the gaming industry learn...graphics never > gameplay/plot
the difference between bw and sc2 is staggering...
▲ ▲ ▲
Tsutchie
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia951 Posts
August 26 2012 22:53 GMT
#136
On August 26 2012 23:08 Dansickle wrote:
I'm not sure what was going on, but almost immediately after the match (P)BeSt and one of the B-teamers that I didn't recognize walked out. (P)BeSt was overwhelmed with tears, to the point of falling against the wall and having to be helped along a couple times.

Hope nothing serious has happened to him, as well.


what are you talking about? when did this happen?
Dansickle
Profile Joined November 2009
177 Posts
August 27 2012 01:00 GMT
#137
On August 27 2012 07:53 Tsutchie wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 26 2012 23:08 Dansickle wrote:
I'm not sure what was going on, but almost immediately after the match (P)BeSt and one of the B-teamers that I didn't recognize walked out. (P)BeSt was overwhelmed with tears, to the point of falling against the wall and having to be helped along a couple times.

Hope nothing serious has happened to him, as well.


what are you talking about? when did this happen?


This was no more than 5 minutes after the match.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10158 Posts
August 27 2012 01:23 GMT
#138
On August 27 2012 01:37 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 22:00 Hyde wrote:
On August 26 2012 17:17 Jindo wrote:
playoff begin next week 9/1
grand final 9/22

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Worst day to have GF
On my birthday and I have to go to a wedding...sigh, guess I won't be able to watch it live. What a shame

I was so happy too, after reading that we're in the PO, now I'm sad

Pretty much. I'm going to be packing/on a flight/traveling the whole day. Will probably miss it :|

YES! no bisu fangirlism here! :D
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
xmungam
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1050 Posts
August 27 2012 02:20 GMT
#139
On August 27 2012 00:51 chuDr3t4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 00:39 Dionyseus wrote:
On August 26 2012 17:22 ShiroKaisen wrote:
Good for SKT, as hilarious as it would've been to see ACE knock them out, they really do deserve to be in playoffs. Especially now that they have the EMPEROR on their side.

Unfortunately, they're gonna lose 2-1 to Team 8~


Correct me if i'm wrong but SKT finished first, they're the only team with 13 wins. So if i'm right they're guaranteed to be in the grand finals.

There's that site called Liquipedia, you know.

[image loading]

looked at the last page of this thread to see if you posted the standings thanks!

holy shit that is so close
youtube.com/xmungam ~~ twitch.tv/thenessman
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19237 Posts
August 27 2012 16:32 GMT
#140
On August 27 2012 10:23 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 01:37 Kiett wrote:
On August 26 2012 22:00 Hyde wrote:
On August 26 2012 17:17 Jindo wrote:
playoff begin next week 9/1
grand final 9/22

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Worst day to have GF
On my birthday and I have to go to a wedding...sigh, guess I won't be able to watch it live. What a shame

I was so happy too, after reading that we're in the PO, now I'm sad

Pretty much. I'm going to be packing/on a flight/traveling the whole day. Will probably miss it :|

YES! no bisu fangirlism here! :D

I'm more then willing to cheer twice as hard on her behalf.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Dansickle
Profile Joined November 2009
177 Posts
August 27 2012 16:55 GMT
#141
Ya, something's got (P)BeSt down:

작은아버지 좋은곳 가셨을거라 믿을게요..
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
August 27 2012 19:29 GMT
#142
On August 28 2012 01:55 Dansickle wrote:
Ya, something's got (P)BeSt down:

작은아버지 좋은곳 가셨을거라 믿을게요..

Was that a tweet or something?

Sounds like his uncle passed away
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