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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
On August 09 2012 23:34 revy wrote: If push came to shove I think I may give Fanta the edge at the end. Losing twice to Jangbi hurts his case greatly, but he was by far and away the most reliably good player. Don't forget Fantasy's undefeated in proleague grand finals. | ||
FlaShFTW
United States10564 Posts
On August 10 2012 01:39 Biff The Understudy wrote: Seriously with Flash you never really know. He is the best player of all time then would get 3-0's by someone or drop from OSL against Classic. I guess he would have absolutely raped Jangbi, but again, I guessed he would raped Jangbi last time too, and I also guessed he would rape Fantasy. So what I've learnt from Flash: don't guess too much. It's unhealthy. :-) there are only 4 things that are absolute with flash: 14cc, pocari sweat, ruler, and twitching. | ||
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
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rift
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10346 Posts
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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VGhost
United States3621 Posts
On August 10 2012 07:05 rift wrote: You could say "if Fantasy wasn't able to beat Jangbi then there's no way Flash could have", but we all know how much better Flash performs in finals than Fantasy. Tell that to  EffOrt.Okay, needlessly snarky, but Flash isn't unstoppable, even in a finals set. | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On August 10 2012 11:47 VGhost wrote: Tell that to EffOrt.Okay, needlessly snarky, but Flash isn't unstoppable, even in a finals set. One game to tilt his mindset and he's gone. | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
On August 10 2012 11:47 VGhost wrote: Tell that to EffOrt.Okay, needlessly snarky, but Flash isn't unstoppable, even in a finals set. Flash played stupid in the 5set. Compare it to the 3set against Jaedong like a week later. 14CC? Make a damn wall so you don't lose to lings. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ __ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ __ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ __ _ _ _ _ _ I think Flash would have won it. Fantasy has always been good at cheesing/funkie builds, but never at defending against cheeses. Flash is the polar opposite: Extremely mechanically strong and always blocking cheeses. He lost 3 times in a row to protoss iirc. That means he probably practiced his ass off to kick protoss ass. Lose to Kwanro twice? Go on a 90-something percent win rate against zergs. | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
On August 10 2012 01:41 N.geNuity wrote: Don't forget Fantasy's undefeated in proleague grand finals. Hell no he wasn't. Fantasy's games always fell apart the minute things didn't go according to his plan. I wouldn't consider him the most reliable by a long shot. It's a tossup between Stork and NaDa. To those saying Flash would have raped JangBi, did you guys forget who knocked out flash in the last OSL semi-finals? I'll give you a hint.... | ||
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
On August 08 2012 12:42 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Oh yeah. In Incruit, he had a puncher's chance to take game 5 against Stork (if only for Stork's inability to scout the 9oclock), and in JinAir, he looked so close to winning in game 5 and then Jangbi went beast mode. So he was really thisclose to 3 golds at least lol And in Batoo against Jaedong, he just kind of tilted. Man even with the hidden expo in Incruit, he was way behind in every metric. Puncher's chance or not, Stork is not the type to drop the ball when he's that far ahead. Not when he's got goon range researched. | ||
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rebdomine
6040 Posts
On August 10 2012 14:18 StorkHwaiting wrote: Hell no he wasn't. Fantasy's games always fell apart the minute things didn't go according to his plan. I wouldn't consider him the most reliable by a long shot. It's a tossup between Stork and NaDa. To those saying Flash would have raped JangBi, did you guys forget who knocked out flash in the last OSL semi-finals? I'll give you a hint.... Did you quote the wrong post or are you trying to say that Fanta isn't undefeated in the biggest stage of Proleague? | ||
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figq
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
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ppshchik
United States862 Posts
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
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Ghostcom
Denmark4783 Posts
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VGhost
United States3621 Posts
On August 11 2012 00:43 J1.au wrote: Every time I see this thread on the side bar I get a big smile on my face. It feels good to be correct, and I've never been wrong when it comes to Fantasy. He is a player with blindingly obvious limitations. His record of late has more to do with conditons that are favourable to him (less games, relaxed schedule, easier competition) than any significant improvements on his part. Please don't tell me that playing vs. Flash was "favorable conditions". Or Jangbi, for that matter. In the last OSL semis and finals, Jangbi knocked out Flash, ZerO, and fantasy twice. It's not like fantasy ran into Movie or some other guy who somehow fluked into a final, and lost. Two seasons back, he took Stork to the woodshed - what I'm saying is, too many people make a big deal of fantasy not being perfect. Yes, fantasy has limitations. His peak just isn't Flash's peak. He's super-reliant on prepared builds and scenarios. But every player has weaknesses: fantasy was still viewed as at least a slight favorite coming in. Props to Jangbi for working out how to take advantage of fantasy's problems, but don't sell fantasy short: fantasy's prepared builds are second to none when they work: fantasy in control of a game is incredibly hard to come back against. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18750 Posts
On August 11 2012 00:43 J1.au wrote: Every time I see this thread on the side bar I get a big smile on my face. It feels good to be correct, and I've never been wrong when it comes to Fantasy. He is a player with blindingly obvious limitations. His record of late has more to do with conditons that are favourable to him (less games, relaxed schedule, easier competition) than any significant improvements on his part. Yeah you've been wrong when it comes to Fantasy since you always predicted Flash to win. Afaik Flash has lost a few games against Fantasy? | ||
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