EPTPeople just assume everyone knows the best builds and doesn't just wing it on ladder or in practice. The players who use strong builds are winning more than anyone else, especially when their execution and mechanics are really good.
[PL] KT vs, STX - Page 13
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oOOoOphidian
United States1402 Posts
People just assume everyone knows the best builds and doesn't just wing it on ladder or in practice. The players who use strong builds are winning more than anyone else, especially when their execution and mechanics are really good. | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
Flash is too good for that shit. | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On July 30 2012 21:43 Xiphos wrote: SCTwo just isn't for Flash. Flash is too good for that shit. oh boy sc2 fan's aren't going to like this.. | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On July 30 2012 17:55 sharkie wrote: He is the most hard working person I know. He achieved near perfection in BW through hard work. But BW was nearly solved while SC2 is still going through evolution. Flash needs to understand how the game works before he spends hours and hours of practice Stop trolling man . If Flash doesn't have talent then nobody else has any talent in e- sports as well ... Flash started dominating the moment he became a Progamer , but it took time to get to his full potential . Flash is experimenting with builds right now in SC2 , to get the feel of timings and counters and whatever . He will still be one of the best players when HOTS comes out and when he understands the game better . The problem with SC2 is that he has been practising it for less then 3 months , while in BW he was already fucking good when he became a pro , since BW wasn't forced on him like SC2 is . He is still really good for the amount of practise he has put in . He would blow 99% of the foreign scene with just his macro . The fact that he is losing so badly is because he is experimenting with builds . When someone gets 6 consecutive finals in GSL and OSL in SC2 then you can start talking to me that that player has more talent then Flash . BW was nearly solved while SC2 is still going to evolve - again wrong . Every year in BW there are new strategies , being used and units utilized like never before . By the time WoL begins to get solved everything will go back to scratch with the expansions so the game really isn't evolving . TvP has been the same in SC2 since forever , PvP isn't even at the point where players have figured out how to take their expansions safely . PvZ also hasn't made any huge progress . People figure out things when Blizzard "balances" something . So i don't see it evolving much . Only notable progress i've seen being made in TvT and TvZ . And everything will go to shit in HOTS , since it doesn't even feel like an expansions then rather a completely different game . | ||
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
On July 30 2012 17:47 radadaundandan wrote: Flash just retire and stream bw on afreeca! Retiring then getting his military service over with doesn't sound bad either. | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5585 Posts
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Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
On July 30 2012 23:22 Elroi wrote: I don't really like Flash personally, but I feel sorry for all the fans. Especially Holgerius who apparently was at the venue... I have to say watching him struggle with sc2 is just painful | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On July 30 2012 23:44 Scaramanga wrote: I have to say watching him struggle with sc2 is just painful He seems so angry these days when he loses too. So unlike his old self which he'll simply laugh it off like a bad joke. | ||
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Daray
6006 Posts
On July 31 2012 00:19 Xiphos wrote: He seems so angry these days when he loses too. So unlike his old self which he'll simply laugh it off like a bad joke. I can understand his frustration. Everyone expects you to be the best and when you're not having the results it can be a vicious cycle. I hope with Clides help he can practice better builds and hopefully understand the game a bit more. | ||
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TheShimmy
United States1808 Posts
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ProxyKnoxy
United Kingdom2576 Posts
On July 31 2012 00:19 Xiphos wrote: He seems so angry these days when he loses too. So unlike his old self which he'll simply laugh it off like a bad joke. When has he laughed about a loss... going 0-2 in a PL match and losing it for your team isn't something to laugh about, nor is an 0-3 against Fantasy. The only time I've seen him laugh (well a smirk) was his loss against Dear (ended his 15 win streak). Not angry, just sad really. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7028 Posts
We might see him at the next MLG as one of the seeded players. I'm going to hope for him to be matched against Goody (another seeded player), and then I'll secretly root for Goody to win, just to see the reactions in the TL Brood War forums. ^^ | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
On July 31 2012 01:53 ProxyKnoxy wrote: When has he laughed about a loss... going 0-2 in a PL match and losing it for your team isn't something to laugh about, nor is an 0-3 against Fantasy. The only time I've seen him laugh (well a smirk) was his loss against Dear (ended his 15 win streak). Not angry, just sad really. Off the top of my head, his loss to Baby around march 2011 his loss to M18M earlier this season Why on earth is Last so bad at TvZ? He gets a BO win and throws it away. Same thing happened against Shine. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11133 Posts
On July 30 2012 21:38 oOOoOphidian wrote: Clide needs to give Flash some solid SlayerS Terran builds and he will blow your mind. Look at how bad jangbi was in his first game (good micro and execution, but outdated build), then compare it to his recent games where he looks incredible. People just assume everyone knows the best builds and doesn't just wing it on ladder or in practice. The players who use strong builds are winning more than anyone else, especially when their execution and mechanics are really good. Agreed. Flash was basically using the same build that he used since that over-the-shoulder vid of him playing SC2 surfaced and that Kawaiirice game on Cloud Kingdom. Basically fast-expanding and going for Marines off of 3 rax and going straight into reactored Medivacs, maybe with upgrades off of one Tech Lab and either one or two Engineer Bays upgrading attack and/or armor. But basically delaying Tanks in favor of lots of upgraded Marines with fast reactored Medivacs. Of course, there are small variations here and there, like opening with either 14cc or 1rax gasless expand or even going for a quick, greedy third like in his game against Classic today. But I'm just a Plat Terran so this might actually be bullshit. Against BaBy earlier this season, the style worked fine. But Classic and Last punished it hard with a 2-base timing attack with Siege Tanks, which is something that I've been struggling with on ladder whenever I try to emulate Flash's build. I see it more as a BO loss than Flash sucking. He really needs to look into more technical builds instead of relying on this one as it has obviously been figured out by STX Terrans. I'm very excited to see what Clide can do with the KT Terrans because they have the talent and potential to be some of the best KeSPA Terrans once they understand the game a bit better and play with better builds. | ||
FlaShFTW
United States10028 Posts
On July 31 2012 01:09 TheShimmy wrote: Flash may get it figured out. Look at JD, and he had a rougher transition than Flash. what? FlaSh is still IN the rough transition, and he'll be here quite a while. FlaSh is probs taking this transition the hardest, besides the players who retired due to the switch. It makes me sad seeing FlaSh's head down and everything. Makes me want to cry. TT.TT | ||
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ProxyKnoxy
United Kingdom2576 Posts
On July 31 2012 02:04 Release wrote: Off the top of my head, his loss to Baby around march 2011 his loss to M18M earlier this season Why on earth is Last so bad at TvZ? He gets a BO win and throws it away. Same thing happened against Shine. So very rarely, then. I'm not sure why you would think, just because of those few examples, that he would laugh about going 0-2 in PL, especially when the team is in a 6 loss streak | ||
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Obelisco
Peru1962 Posts
On July 31 2012 03:18 ProxyKnoxy wrote: So very rarely, then. I'm not sure why you would think, just because of those few examples, that he would laugh about going 0-2 in PL, especially when the team is in a 6 loss streak KT T_T. Yea, Flash must have taken it pretty hard, how he is makes me thing so. | ||
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reincremate
China2210 Posts
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xmungam
United States1050 Posts
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FlaShFTW
United States10028 Posts
On July 31 2012 05:09 xmungam wrote: what happened here??? bsaically FlaSh lost twice to the same god damn build... sigh... KT zergs still stepping up in BW and Stats with a nice strat in SC2... but still... | ||
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