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bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 13:51:37
July 10 2012 13:51 GMT
#2021
On July 10 2012 22:49 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 22:40 letian wrote:
On July 10 2012 22:32 Ragnarork wrote:
On July 10 2012 22:29 Boonbag wrote:
I hope Flash destroys SC2 so fucking bad they have to cancel it and reverse to brood war


Look I feel as angry as you about this statement, it's still not a reason to shit on SC2....

yes, its very sad that such a good game like SC2 becomes a scapegoat here. I should say "fuck you" to all those greedy bastards who made this switch happen, and even then I still can't blame them for actually doing their job. Then who should we blame?
Ourselves, yes. We could have changed all that, ignore, riot and make things the way they fucking should be. That didn't happen.


It's actually hard to think it could've been possible. For every BW fan right here, there are dozens of rather young SC2 fans that discovered the existence of Blizzard through World of Warcraft, and think SC2 is the e-sports game and BW the old thing that means nothing.

It just shows more and more about Blizzard focusing on a very young and "semi-casual" public....

Can you blame them from business perspective? Didn't diablo3 got record on sales? It did, even if it happened to be inferior game and bugged.

Ok its offtopic. end this.
Stork[gm]
Kittan
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland3999 Posts
July 10 2012 13:51 GMT
#2022
On July 10 2012 22:50 writer22816 wrote:
Holy FUCK I can't believe I forgot to watch this live.

Watch all the games RIGHT NOW. Don't watch the ending montage.

There, another soul saved :D
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=81288 <--- How I fell in love with a man, a team, a game and a website in a single day... | "There are no false gods, there is only the Emperor, and Choi Yun Sung is his prophet." -> Zona 40k
stevewch
Profile Joined February 2006
Hong Kong216 Posts
July 10 2012 13:51 GMT
#2023
can someone please work on a subbed version of this series?
there are so many touching moments and we shouldnt have missed ..
big big thanks...

jangbi forever,
protoss forever,
bw foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
SC forever!
PlosionCornu
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy814 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 13:53:48
July 10 2012 13:53 GMT
#2024
On July 10 2012 22:47 Black[CAT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 22:43 Jumperer wrote:
OGN is a genius though for showing Morhaime. IT WAS INTENTIONAL. They wanted people to be angry. SC2 IS AN INFERIOR GAME AND IT'S KILLING THE GREATEST RTS GAME EVER CREATED. That was essentially reverse Gettysburg's address.


This could well be the truth in fact. But then, I doubt many Koreans know what he even said.


What, ogn cannot interview someone that rich and FORCE them to say anything against their own interests.
That's what happened, easiest explanations are often times the correct ones: blizzard & ogn pr officers were on vacantion, and someone else in their place shit the bed.

No way promos like those, carefully built with handpicked resources, specifically to create consensus towards a certain question, could contain such huge blunders otherwise.

Leave tin foil hats at home please.
Futhermore there were hangul subs, koreans heard that.


letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
July 10 2012 13:53 GMT
#2025
How many would like it to be just another OSL/MSL? How many of us would want it all back in place?

I still can't believe this is all gonna be over. There is something so completely wrong about it. Why, why for Christ's sake?
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
July 10 2012 13:53 GMT
#2026
On July 10 2012 22:51 stevewch wrote:
can someone please work on a subbed version of this series?
there are so many touching moments and we shouldnt have missed ..
big big thanks...

jangbi forever,
protoss forever,
bw foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


That would be awesome. Or even more, a voice translation with the same amount of excitement !
LiquipediaWanderer
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
July 10 2012 13:53 GMT
#2027
On July 10 2012 22:50 Boonbag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 22:48 jpak wrote:
On July 10 2012 22:46 Boonbag wrote:
On July 10 2012 22:45 jpak wrote:
On July 10 2012 22:43 Jumperer wrote:
OGN is a genius though for showing Morhaime. IT WAS INTENTIONAL. They wanted people to be angry. SC2 IS AN INFERIOR GAME AND IT'S KILLING THE GREATEST RTS GAME EVER CREATED. That was essentially reverse Gettysburg's address.


Ongamenet has been already moving towards LoL as their flagship E-sports in the post-BW era.



I very doubt LoL will last.


Not if Kim Carrier has anything to say about it: Tossgirl on Carrier



why was he crying back there then if he already has a new love ?

LoL is easy to replace or clone.

Hell, a new awesome moba can show up every year ...


BW was a part of his life for the past 13 years. You expect him to NOT cry knowing that something so significant to you will be gone very soon?

Why does everybody have an agenda against LoL? I don't get it.
CJ Entusman #50! #1 클템 fan TL!
SCnai
Profile Joined February 2010
322 Posts
July 10 2012 13:54 GMT
#2028
On July 10 2012 22:43 Jumperer wrote:
OGN is a genius though for showing Morhaime. IT WAS INTENTIONAL. They wanted people to be angry. SC2 IS AN INFERIOR GAME AND IT'S KILLING THE GREATEST RTS GAME EVER CREATED. That was essentially reverse Gettysburg's address.

Hahaha. It was obvious the timing of the speech will make it doubly revolting. You might be on to something.
The legend of the fall, which everyone thought was only a dream, is being revived! Carriers, the symbol of Protoss, the hope of a million Protoss fans, are reviving the legend!
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
July 10 2012 13:55 GMT
#2029
I ain't even mad.

CnC douche ruins the Starcraft franchise and hates the original that overshadowed his games for a decade.
stevewch
Profile Joined February 2006
Hong Kong216 Posts
July 10 2012 13:56 GMT
#2030
On July 10 2012 22:53 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 22:51 stevewch wrote:
can someone please work on a subbed version of this series?
there are so many touching moments and we shouldnt have missed ..
big big thanks...

jangbi forever,
protoss forever,
bw foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


That would be awesome. Or even more, a voice translation with the same amount of excitement !


voice translation with same amount of excitement...
so do we need day9 and tastosis to do this
hope they will do a final cast for bw on 28/7...
SC forever!
PlosionCornu
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy814 Posts
July 10 2012 13:56 GMT
#2031
Imo kim carrier is heavily against this transition, that's why he cried and is jumping ship.
When something you've created gets rammed through by an external force, you just wanna say fuck you to everything and give up on it.
NotJumperer
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1371 Posts
July 10 2012 13:56 GMT
#2032
--- Nuked ---
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
July 10 2012 13:56 GMT
#2033
FUCK YES JANGBI!!!

Please be Jangbi versus Flash. Would be absolutely epic.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
July 10 2012 13:57 GMT
#2034

On July 10 2012 22:41 Caihead wrote:

hint: All companies, all financial institutions, all individuals engaged in any industry related to finance, accounting, economics, enterprise, private investment are not just TOLD that profit is the one and ONLY goal of their life, they are FORCED to through education, legislation, and laws. It's actually ILLEGAL for a CEO to purposefully decrease their profit margin against another alternative for non profit related reasons, the board /shareholders can actually sue him and get him removed according to American corporate law. The system is catering to one specific drive and is competitive based on that, nothing else matters if you accept this mentality.



See and that's why nothing works, they found out they don't need to make good things, they just need to make things that sell the faster and not exactly last long, because they need another selling spree. Look at SC2 with two expansions, no clans, no tourney system, bnet 0.2 means something maybe..
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 14:00:57
July 10 2012 14:00 GMT
#2035
On July 10 2012 22:57 Alpino wrote:

Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 22:41 Caihead wrote:

hint: All companies, all financial institutions, all individuals engaged in any industry related to finance, accounting, economics, enterprise, private investment are not just TOLD that profit is the one and ONLY goal of their life, they are FORCED to through education, legislation, and laws. It's actually ILLEGAL for a CEO to purposefully decrease their profit margin against another alternative for non profit related reasons, the board /shareholders can actually sue him and get him removed according to American corporate law. The system is catering to one specific drive and is competitive based on that, nothing else matters if you accept this mentality.



See and that's why nothing works, they found out they don't need to make good things, they just need to make things that sell the faster and not exactly last long, because they need another selling spree. Look at SC2 with two expansions, no clans, no tourney system, bnet 0.2 means something maybe..


LAN, don't forget LAN. (Actually, the absence of...)
LiquipediaWanderer
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
July 10 2012 14:00 GMT
#2036
On July 10 2012 22:57 Alpino wrote:

Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 22:41 Caihead wrote:

hint: All companies, all financial institutions, all individuals engaged in any industry related to finance, accounting, economics, enterprise, private investment are not just TOLD that profit is the one and ONLY goal of their life, they are FORCED to through education, legislation, and laws. It's actually ILLEGAL for a CEO to purposefully decrease their profit margin against another alternative for non profit related reasons, the board /shareholders can actually sue him and get him removed according to American corporate law. The system is catering to one specific drive and is competitive based on that, nothing else matters if you accept this mentality.



See and that's why nothing works, they found out they don't need to make good things, they just need to make things that sell the faster and not exactly last long, because they need another selling spree. Look at SC2 with two expansions, no clans, no tourney system, bnet 0.2 means something maybe..


You dont say? To have expansions announced before the main one is released, doesnt that tells people something???
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
July 10 2012 14:04 GMT
#2037
On July 10 2012 22:53 letian wrote:
How many would like it to be just another OSL/MSL? How many of us would want it all back in place?

I still can't believe this is all gonna be over. There is something so completely wrong about it. Why, why for Christ's sake?

Business phenomenom, blizzard fucking up BW deals 10 years ago biting us now 10 years later. Then the same people in charge say hey guys move on to our new product this time we won't fuck up, we monetized EVERYTHING now hehe.
Stork[gm]
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
July 10 2012 14:05 GMT
#2038
On July 10 2012 22:57 Alpino wrote:

Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 22:41 Caihead wrote:

hint: All companies, all financial institutions, all individuals engaged in any industry related to finance, accounting, economics, enterprise, private investment are not just TOLD that profit is the one and ONLY goal of their life, they are FORCED to through education, legislation, and laws. It's actually ILLEGAL for a CEO to purposefully decrease their profit margin against another alternative for non profit related reasons, the board /shareholders can actually sue him and get him removed according to American corporate law. The system is catering to one specific drive and is competitive based on that, nothing else matters if you accept this mentality.



See and that's why nothing works, they found out they don't need to make good things, they just need to make things that sell the faster and not exactly last long, because they need another selling spree. Look at SC2 with two expansions, no clans, no tourney system, bnet 0.2 means something maybe..


It's competitive, that's why it succeeds. :/ Morally bankrupt principles are often competitive if there isn't moral agreement across the board.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5753 Posts
July 10 2012 14:08 GMT
#2039
On July 10 2012 22:51 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 22:49 Ragnarork wrote:
On July 10 2012 22:40 letian wrote:
On July 10 2012 22:32 Ragnarork wrote:
On July 10 2012 22:29 Boonbag wrote:
I hope Flash destroys SC2 so fucking bad they have to cancel it and reverse to brood war


Look I feel as angry as you about this statement, it's still not a reason to shit on SC2....

yes, its very sad that such a good game like SC2 becomes a scapegoat here. I should say "fuck you" to all those greedy bastards who made this switch happen, and even then I still can't blame them for actually doing their job. Then who should we blame?
Ourselves, yes. We could have changed all that, ignore, riot and make things the way they fucking should be. That didn't happen.


It's actually hard to think it could've been possible. For every BW fan right here, there are dozens of rather young SC2 fans that discovered the existence of Blizzard through World of Warcraft, and think SC2 is the e-sports game and BW the old thing that means nothing.

It just shows more and more about Blizzard focusing on a very young and "semi-casual" public....

Can you blame them from business perspective? Didn't diablo3 got record on sales? It did, even if it happened to be inferior game and bugged.

Ok its offtopic. end this.


This strategy will not make them last. They relied too much on their reputation for the past several years. Releasing two botched sequels is going to ruin their reputation.
syst
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
United States247 Posts
July 10 2012 14:08 GMT
#2040
I was actually on the fence about going up to Seoul for the finals... don't want to make myself sad... save some extra dough... but after this series there's no fucking way I'm missing out.

Last OSL, Jangbi vs Fantasy was super epic... the Proleague finals were amazing as well. I'm gonna go out with a bang, but I hope I can make it back to the hostel after my tears and binge drinking when it's over .
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