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On July 10 2012 22:49 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 22:40 letian wrote:On July 10 2012 22:32 Ragnarork wrote:On July 10 2012 22:29 Boonbag wrote: I hope Flash destroys SC2 so fucking bad they have to cancel it and reverse to brood war Look I feel as angry as you about this statement, it's still not a reason to shit on SC2.... yes, its very sad that such a good game like SC2 becomes a scapegoat here. I should say "fuck you" to all those greedy bastards who made this switch happen, and even then I still can't blame them for actually doing their job. Then who should we blame? Ourselves, yes. We could have changed all that, ignore, riot and make things the way they fucking should be. That didn't happen. It's actually hard to think it could've been possible. For every BW fan right here, there are dozens of rather young SC2 fans that discovered the existence of Blizzard through World of Warcraft, and think SC2 is the e-sports game and BW the old thing that means nothing. It just shows more and more about Blizzard focusing on a very young and "semi-casual" public.... Can you blame them from business perspective? Didn't diablo3 got record on sales? It did, even if it happened to be inferior game and bugged.
Ok its offtopic. end this.
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On July 10 2012 22:50 writer22816 wrote: Holy FUCK I can't believe I forgot to watch this live. Watch all the games RIGHT NOW. Don't watch the ending montage.
There, another soul saved :D
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can someone please work on a subbed version of this series? there are so many touching moments and we shouldnt have missed .. big big thanks...
jangbi forever, protoss forever, bw foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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On July 10 2012 22:47 Black[CAT] wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 22:43 Jumperer wrote: OGN is a genius though for showing Morhaime. IT WAS INTENTIONAL. They wanted people to be angry. SC2 IS AN INFERIOR GAME AND IT'S KILLING THE GREATEST RTS GAME EVER CREATED. That was essentially reverse Gettysburg's address. This could well be the truth in fact. But then, I doubt many Koreans know what he even said.
What, ogn cannot interview someone that rich and FORCE them to say anything against their own interests. That's what happened, easiest explanations are often times the correct ones: blizzard & ogn pr officers were on vacantion, and someone else in their place shit the bed.
No way promos like those, carefully built with handpicked resources, specifically to create consensus towards a certain question, could contain such huge blunders otherwise.
Leave tin foil hats at home please. Futhermore there were hangul subs, koreans heard that.
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How many would like it to be just another OSL/MSL? How many of us would want it all back in place?
I still can't believe this is all gonna be over. There is something so completely wrong about it. Why, why for Christ's sake?
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On July 10 2012 22:51 stevewch wrote: can someone please work on a subbed version of this series? there are so many touching moments and we shouldnt have missed .. big big thanks...
jangbi forever, protoss forever, bw foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
That would be awesome. Or even more, a voice translation with the same amount of excitement !
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On July 10 2012 22:50 Boonbag wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 22:48 jpak wrote:On July 10 2012 22:46 Boonbag wrote:On July 10 2012 22:45 jpak wrote:On July 10 2012 22:43 Jumperer wrote: OGN is a genius though for showing Morhaime. IT WAS INTENTIONAL. They wanted people to be angry. SC2 IS AN INFERIOR GAME AND IT'S KILLING THE GREATEST RTS GAME EVER CREATED. That was essentially reverse Gettysburg's address. Ongamenet has been already moving towards LoL as their flagship E-sports in the post-BW era. I very doubt LoL will last. Not if Kim Carrier has anything to say about it: Tossgirl on Carrier why was he crying back there then if he already has a new love ? LoL is easy to replace or clone. Hell, a new awesome moba can show up every year ...
BW was a part of his life for the past 13 years. You expect him to NOT cry knowing that something so significant to you will be gone very soon?
Why does everybody have an agenda against LoL? I don't get it.
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On July 10 2012 22:43 Jumperer wrote: OGN is a genius though for showing Morhaime. IT WAS INTENTIONAL. They wanted people to be angry. SC2 IS AN INFERIOR GAME AND IT'S KILLING THE GREATEST RTS GAME EVER CREATED. That was essentially reverse Gettysburg's address. Hahaha. It was obvious the timing of the speech will make it doubly revolting. You might be on to something.
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I ain't even mad.
CnC douche ruins the Starcraft franchise and hates the original that overshadowed his games for a decade.
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On July 10 2012 22:53 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 22:51 stevewch wrote: can someone please work on a subbed version of this series? there are so many touching moments and we shouldnt have missed .. big big thanks...
jangbi forever, protoss forever, bw foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr That would be awesome. Or even more, a voice translation with the same amount of excitement !
voice translation with same amount of excitement... so do we need day9 and tastosis to do this hope they will do a final cast for bw on 28/7...
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Imo kim carrier is heavily against this transition, that's why he cried and is jumping ship. When something you've created gets rammed through by an external force, you just wanna say fuck you to everything and give up on it.
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FUCK YES JANGBI!!!
Please be Jangbi versus Flash. Would be absolutely epic.
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On July 10 2012 22:41 Caihead wrote:
hint: All companies, all financial institutions, all individuals engaged in any industry related to finance, accounting, economics, enterprise, private investment are not just TOLD that profit is the one and ONLY goal of their life, they are FORCED to through education, legislation, and laws. It's actually ILLEGAL for a CEO to purposefully decrease their profit margin against another alternative for non profit related reasons, the board /shareholders can actually sue him and get him removed according to American corporate law. The system is catering to one specific drive and is competitive based on that, nothing else matters if you accept this mentality.
See and that's why nothing works, they found out they don't need to make good things, they just need to make things that sell the faster and not exactly last long, because they need another selling spree. Look at SC2 with two expansions, no clans, no tourney system, bnet 0.2 means something maybe..
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On July 10 2012 22:57 Alpino wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 22:41 Caihead wrote:
hint: All companies, all financial institutions, all individuals engaged in any industry related to finance, accounting, economics, enterprise, private investment are not just TOLD that profit is the one and ONLY goal of their life, they are FORCED to through education, legislation, and laws. It's actually ILLEGAL for a CEO to purposefully decrease their profit margin against another alternative for non profit related reasons, the board /shareholders can actually sue him and get him removed according to American corporate law. The system is catering to one specific drive and is competitive based on that, nothing else matters if you accept this mentality.
See and that's why nothing works, they found out they don't need to make good things, they just need to make things that sell the faster and not exactly last long, because they need another selling spree. Look at SC2 with two expansions, no clans, no tourney system, bnet 0.2 means something maybe..
LAN, don't forget LAN. (Actually, the absence of...)
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On July 10 2012 22:57 Alpino wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 22:41 Caihead wrote:
hint: All companies, all financial institutions, all individuals engaged in any industry related to finance, accounting, economics, enterprise, private investment are not just TOLD that profit is the one and ONLY goal of their life, they are FORCED to through education, legislation, and laws. It's actually ILLEGAL for a CEO to purposefully decrease their profit margin against another alternative for non profit related reasons, the board /shareholders can actually sue him and get him removed according to American corporate law. The system is catering to one specific drive and is competitive based on that, nothing else matters if you accept this mentality.
See and that's why nothing works, they found out they don't need to make good things, they just need to make things that sell the faster and not exactly last long, because they need another selling spree. Look at SC2 with two expansions, no clans, no tourney system, bnet 0.2 means something maybe..
You dont say? To have expansions announced before the main one is released, doesnt that tells people something???
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On July 10 2012 22:53 letian wrote: How many would like it to be just another OSL/MSL? How many of us would want it all back in place?
I still can't believe this is all gonna be over. There is something so completely wrong about it. Why, why for Christ's sake? Business phenomenom, blizzard fucking up BW deals 10 years ago biting us now 10 years later. Then the same people in charge say hey guys move on to our new product this time we won't fuck up, we monetized EVERYTHING now hehe.
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On July 10 2012 22:57 Alpino wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 22:41 Caihead wrote:
hint: All companies, all financial institutions, all individuals engaged in any industry related to finance, accounting, economics, enterprise, private investment are not just TOLD that profit is the one and ONLY goal of their life, they are FORCED to through education, legislation, and laws. It's actually ILLEGAL for a CEO to purposefully decrease their profit margin against another alternative for non profit related reasons, the board /shareholders can actually sue him and get him removed according to American corporate law. The system is catering to one specific drive and is competitive based on that, nothing else matters if you accept this mentality.
See and that's why nothing works, they found out they don't need to make good things, they just need to make things that sell the faster and not exactly last long, because they need another selling spree. Look at SC2 with two expansions, no clans, no tourney system, bnet 0.2 means something maybe..
It's competitive, that's why it succeeds. :/ Morally bankrupt principles are often competitive if there isn't moral agreement across the board.
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On July 10 2012 22:51 bgx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 22:49 Ragnarork wrote:On July 10 2012 22:40 letian wrote:On July 10 2012 22:32 Ragnarork wrote:On July 10 2012 22:29 Boonbag wrote: I hope Flash destroys SC2 so fucking bad they have to cancel it and reverse to brood war Look I feel as angry as you about this statement, it's still not a reason to shit on SC2.... yes, its very sad that such a good game like SC2 becomes a scapegoat here. I should say "fuck you" to all those greedy bastards who made this switch happen, and even then I still can't blame them for actually doing their job. Then who should we blame? Ourselves, yes. We could have changed all that, ignore, riot and make things the way they fucking should be. That didn't happen. It's actually hard to think it could've been possible. For every BW fan right here, there are dozens of rather young SC2 fans that discovered the existence of Blizzard through World of Warcraft, and think SC2 is the e-sports game and BW the old thing that means nothing. It just shows more and more about Blizzard focusing on a very young and "semi-casual" public.... Can you blame them from business perspective? Didn't diablo3 got record on sales? It did, even if it happened to be inferior game and bugged. Ok its offtopic. end this.
This strategy will not make them last. They relied too much on their reputation for the past several years. Releasing two botched sequels is going to ruin their reputation.
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I was actually on the fence about going up to Seoul for the finals... don't want to make myself sad... save some extra dough... but after this series there's no fucking way I'm missing out.
Last OSL, Jangbi vs Fantasy was super epic... the Proleague finals were amazing as well. I'm gonna go out with a bang, but I hope I can make it back to the hostel after my tears and binge drinking when it's over .
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