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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
August 01 2012 22:17 GMT
#541
On August 02 2012 07:14 Nazza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 07:09 Eywa- wrote:
On August 02 2012 06:55 EchOne wrote:
No or limited postponing may be fine for highly organized, committed, skilled teams of top foreign players, but D rank teams tend to have many players with different, sudden commitments on top of all sorts of time zone problems. Eywa I'm pretty sure you yourself have had to forfeit organized matches before due to personal circumstance. You're not alone in that, and the fact is if everyone who can't make it to game time is simply cut, there simply wouldn't be enough people to even have a league in the first place.

The BW scene is tiny. The BW scene on TL is tinier. The collection of D players who want to play BW on TL is presumably only us, and we are few. Would you rather have even less BW, or as much as possible?

Yes, I've had to forfeit many matches. You're correct. Though, I believe it is better to have less teams and more shows than more teams and less shows. Personal opinion of course, I've always valued community more than the games themselves, which is kind of why I enjoyed DRTL 1 so much. I'm sure you can understand that as well.


Eh? More games = more stuff to cast.

More stuff to cast = community wins.

... It's not all about casting content, there's a lot more to it than that, mainly team unity and community.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
August 01 2012 22:19 GMT
#542
On August 02 2012 07:17 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 07:14 Nazza wrote:
On August 02 2012 07:09 Eywa- wrote:
On August 02 2012 06:55 EchOne wrote:
No or limited postponing may be fine for highly organized, committed, skilled teams of top foreign players, but D rank teams tend to have many players with different, sudden commitments on top of all sorts of time zone problems. Eywa I'm pretty sure you yourself have had to forfeit organized matches before due to personal circumstance. You're not alone in that, and the fact is if everyone who can't make it to game time is simply cut, there simply wouldn't be enough people to even have a league in the first place.

The BW scene is tiny. The BW scene on TL is tinier. The collection of D players who want to play BW on TL is presumably only us, and we are few. Would you rather have even less BW, or as much as possible?

Yes, I've had to forfeit many matches. You're correct. Though, I believe it is better to have less teams and more shows than more teams and less shows. Personal opinion of course, I've always valued community more than the games themselves, which is kind of why I enjoyed DRTL 1 so much. I'm sure you can understand that as well.


Eh? More games = more stuff to cast.

More stuff to cast = community wins.

... It's not all about casting content, there's a lot more to it than that, mainly team unity and community.

So basically, by not allowing more games to be played, that somehow hurts team unity and community?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
August 01 2012 22:22 GMT
#543
On August 02 2012 07:19 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 07:17 Eywa- wrote:
On August 02 2012 07:14 Nazza wrote:
On August 02 2012 07:09 Eywa- wrote:
On August 02 2012 06:55 EchOne wrote:
No or limited postponing may be fine for highly organized, committed, skilled teams of top foreign players, but D rank teams tend to have many players with different, sudden commitments on top of all sorts of time zone problems. Eywa I'm pretty sure you yourself have had to forfeit organized matches before due to personal circumstance. You're not alone in that, and the fact is if everyone who can't make it to game time is simply cut, there simply wouldn't be enough people to even have a league in the first place.

The BW scene is tiny. The BW scene on TL is tinier. The collection of D players who want to play BW on TL is presumably only us, and we are few. Would you rather have even less BW, or as much as possible?

Yes, I've had to forfeit many matches. You're correct. Though, I believe it is better to have less teams and more shows than more teams and less shows. Personal opinion of course, I've always valued community more than the games themselves, which is kind of why I enjoyed DRTL 1 so much. I'm sure you can understand that as well.


Eh? More games = more stuff to cast.

More stuff to cast = community wins.

... It's not all about casting content, there's a lot more to it than that, mainly team unity and community.

So basically, by not allowing more games to be played, that somehow hurts team unity and community?

And this is a discussion board, there is no need to be hostile in nature because you can't see what someone else is trying to say and/or disagree with it. For such reason, I'd like to discontinue our discussion.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Nazza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1654 Posts
August 01 2012 22:22 GMT
#544
On August 02 2012 07:17 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 07:14 Nazza wrote:
On August 02 2012 07:09 Eywa- wrote:
On August 02 2012 06:55 EchOne wrote:
No or limited postponing may be fine for highly organized, committed, skilled teams of top foreign players, but D rank teams tend to have many players with different, sudden commitments on top of all sorts of time zone problems. Eywa I'm pretty sure you yourself have had to forfeit organized matches before due to personal circumstance. You're not alone in that, and the fact is if everyone who can't make it to game time is simply cut, there simply wouldn't be enough people to even have a league in the first place.

The BW scene is tiny. The BW scene on TL is tinier. The collection of D players who want to play BW on TL is presumably only us, and we are few. Would you rather have even less BW, or as much as possible?

Yes, I've had to forfeit many matches. You're correct. Though, I believe it is better to have less teams and more shows than more teams and less shows. Personal opinion of course, I've always valued community more than the games themselves, which is kind of why I enjoyed DRTL 1 so much. I'm sure you can understand that as well.


Eh? More games = more stuff to cast.

More stuff to cast = community wins.

... It's not all about casting content, there's a lot more to it than that, mainly team unity and community.


It should mainly be up to teams themselves to organize practice sessions and such though. Shouldn't have to force them to play at a specific time.
No one ever remembers second place, eh? eh? GIVE ME COMMAND
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
August 01 2012 23:37 GMT
#545
On August 02 2012 07:22 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 07:19 Sentenal wrote:
On August 02 2012 07:17 Eywa- wrote:
On August 02 2012 07:14 Nazza wrote:
On August 02 2012 07:09 Eywa- wrote:
On August 02 2012 06:55 EchOne wrote:
No or limited postponing may be fine for highly organized, committed, skilled teams of top foreign players, but D rank teams tend to have many players with different, sudden commitments on top of all sorts of time zone problems. Eywa I'm pretty sure you yourself have had to forfeit organized matches before due to personal circumstance. You're not alone in that, and the fact is if everyone who can't make it to game time is simply cut, there simply wouldn't be enough people to even have a league in the first place.

The BW scene is tiny. The BW scene on TL is tinier. The collection of D players who want to play BW on TL is presumably only us, and we are few. Would you rather have even less BW, or as much as possible?

Yes, I've had to forfeit many matches. You're correct. Though, I believe it is better to have less teams and more shows than more teams and less shows. Personal opinion of course, I've always valued community more than the games themselves, which is kind of why I enjoyed DRTL 1 so much. I'm sure you can understand that as well.


Eh? More games = more stuff to cast.

More stuff to cast = community wins.

... It's not all about casting content, there's a lot more to it than that, mainly team unity and community.

So basically, by not allowing more games to be played, that somehow hurts team unity and community?

And this is a discussion board, there is no need to be hostile in nature because you can't see what someone else is trying to say and/or disagree with it. For such reason, I'd like to discontinue our discussion.

lol Sent is being really manner.

Well, since you've politely requested the discussion to end, I won't try to press the issue further but I'd just like to give my two cents that it doesn't feel like a welcoming community when you suggest players like me and Nazza be excluded from the league because we can't play at a specific time =/
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
August 01 2012 23:42 GMT
#546
On August 02 2012 08:37 KazeHydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 07:22 Eywa- wrote:
On August 02 2012 07:19 Sentenal wrote:
On August 02 2012 07:17 Eywa- wrote:
On August 02 2012 07:14 Nazza wrote:
On August 02 2012 07:09 Eywa- wrote:
On August 02 2012 06:55 EchOne wrote:
No or limited postponing may be fine for highly organized, committed, skilled teams of top foreign players, but D rank teams tend to have many players with different, sudden commitments on top of all sorts of time zone problems. Eywa I'm pretty sure you yourself have had to forfeit organized matches before due to personal circumstance. You're not alone in that, and the fact is if everyone who can't make it to game time is simply cut, there simply wouldn't be enough people to even have a league in the first place.

The BW scene is tiny. The BW scene on TL is tinier. The collection of D players who want to play BW on TL is presumably only us, and we are few. Would you rather have even less BW, or as much as possible?

Yes, I've had to forfeit many matches. You're correct. Though, I believe it is better to have less teams and more shows than more teams and less shows. Personal opinion of course, I've always valued community more than the games themselves, which is kind of why I enjoyed DRTL 1 so much. I'm sure you can understand that as well.


Eh? More games = more stuff to cast.

More stuff to cast = community wins.

... It's not all about casting content, there's a lot more to it than that, mainly team unity and community.

So basically, by not allowing more games to be played, that somehow hurts team unity and community?

And this is a discussion board, there is no need to be hostile in nature because you can't see what someone else is trying to say and/or disagree with it. For such reason, I'd like to discontinue our discussion.

lol Sent is being really manner.

Well, since you've politely requested the discussion to end, I won't try to press the issue further but I'd just like to give my two cents that it doesn't feel like a welcoming community when you suggest players like me and Nazza be excluded from the league because we can't play at a specific time =/

I've been very manner, its not like I'm the type of guy to get mad and then float my buildings into different corners of the map during a game.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10365 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 00:27:33
August 02 2012 00:26 GMT
#547
On August 02 2012 08:42 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 08:37 KazeHydra wrote:
On August 02 2012 07:22 Eywa- wrote:
On August 02 2012 07:19 Sentenal wrote:
On August 02 2012 07:17 Eywa- wrote:
On August 02 2012 07:14 Nazza wrote:
On August 02 2012 07:09 Eywa- wrote:
On August 02 2012 06:55 EchOne wrote:
No or limited postponing may be fine for highly organized, committed, skilled teams of top foreign players, but D rank teams tend to have many players with different, sudden commitments on top of all sorts of time zone problems. Eywa I'm pretty sure you yourself have had to forfeit organized matches before due to personal circumstance. You're not alone in that, and the fact is if everyone who can't make it to game time is simply cut, there simply wouldn't be enough people to even have a league in the first place.

The BW scene is tiny. The BW scene on TL is tinier. The collection of D players who want to play BW on TL is presumably only us, and we are few. Would you rather have even less BW, or as much as possible?

Yes, I've had to forfeit many matches. You're correct. Though, I believe it is better to have less teams and more shows than more teams and less shows. Personal opinion of course, I've always valued community more than the games themselves, which is kind of why I enjoyed DRTL 1 so much. I'm sure you can understand that as well.


Eh? More games = more stuff to cast.

More stuff to cast = community wins.

... It's not all about casting content, there's a lot more to it than that, mainly team unity and community.

So basically, by not allowing more games to be played, that somehow hurts team unity and community?

And this is a discussion board, there is no need to be hostile in nature because you can't see what someone else is trying to say and/or disagree with it. For such reason, I'd like to discontinue our discussion.

lol Sent is being really manner.

Well, since you've politely requested the discussion to end, I won't try to press the issue further but I'd just like to give my two cents that it doesn't feel like a welcoming community when you suggest players like me and Nazza be excluded from the league because we can't play at a specific time =/

I've been very manner, its not like I'm the type of guy to get mad and then float my buildings into different corners of the map during a game.

Eventually one learns that when dealing with people of a certain nature it is best to just /ignore because otherwise the shitfest just doesn't stop.

Speaking of, I guess the ban only lasted for one season?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
August 02 2012 01:28 GMT
#548
Btw Team 2 our full lineup for Week 3 is:

Neo Chain Reaction: KazeHydra
Outsider: prophecy_
Circuit Breaker: sGs.Nazza
Fighting Spirit: Sentenal
Gladiator: FireHaven

If you want to post yours it'd be much appreciated. Also if we can't get reschedules for the players who need them we'd like to field substitutes. Thanks.
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
TL-TyranT
Profile Joined March 2010
United States87 Posts
August 02 2012 08:01 GMT
#549
Hey Nikon when I get my xsplit working again to cast again I wana put up my info for replay submition I am fairly sure I cnI do a set a day for DRIT and DRTL. Wiilling to accept any and all help with xsplit setup to do so along with a cocaster regardless of experience or reputation as I just wana have fun with it again. Oh that reminds me to say that I left Team 2 for TAKK for many reasons main one(s) being activity and dedication to the results of each week.
"Don"T GiVe uP, dOnT gIvE iN, TiLL yOu MuSTeR All ThaT LieS WiTHiN, To LeaD YoU A ChAnCe To WiN! " NeLSoN Personal Epic Quote
GeckoVOD
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Germany814 Posts
August 02 2012 11:12 GMT
#550
On August 02 2012 07:09 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 06:55 EchOne wrote:
No or limited postponing may be fine for highly organized, committed, skilled teams of top foreign players, but D rank teams tend to have many players with different, sudden commitments on top of all sorts of time zone problems. Eywa I'm pretty sure you yourself have had to forfeit organized matches before due to personal circumstance. You're not alone in that, and the fact is if everyone who can't make it to game time is simply cut, there simply wouldn't be enough people to even have a league in the first place.

The BW scene is tiny. The BW scene on TL is tinier. The collection of D players who want to play BW on TL is presumably only us, and we are few. Would you rather have even less BW, or as much as possible?

[...] I've always valued community more than the games themselves, [...]


I can't stop laughing at this point

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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10365 Posts
August 02 2012 14:21 GMT
#551
If anyone that wants to participate does not yet have a team, VS will gladly accept you.

As predicted before, many of our players can't play every weekend and some have very busy IRL things to handle so they can't play at all. We need a few more active players to field a consistent line-up. Please PM me if you are interested.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 16:20:12
August 02 2012 16:13 GMT
#552
So, uhhh, shouldn't lineups be posted by now? Are they on that german website, or will they be posted here? Seems like last week we had to rely on the other team to be manner and just post them, but we shouldn't have to rely on that.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Cpt.beefy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Ireland799 Posts
August 02 2012 16:36 GMT
#553

Srsly There needs to be a late penalty, Late line-ups are hurting us all.... Unless of course nikon is just late in posting them.
Our Beloved Geoff "inControl" Robinson.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
August 02 2012 16:41 GMT
#554
Its already week 3, so I would have hoped that stuff like this could have been taken care of by now.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10365 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 17:32:17
August 02 2012 17:28 GMT
#555
In VS's case, we simply do not have enough active people to send a line-up. Sorry for any inconvenience that this has caused, we are doing our best to work on it. If our opposing team allows for both PPs and repeated players we can field a full line-up. Otherwise, we can field 3-4 players with PP and give up free wins. If no PP is allowed, we will have absolutely 0 chance of getting more than 1-2 games in on Saturday.

So far we can state the following:

sGs.Gorg (P) on Circuit Breakers (Requires PP, George_the_man is his TL ID)
sGs.Minscnboo (T) on Fighting Spirit
sGs.BaBo (P) on Chain Reaction (Requires PP, Jealous is my TL ID)
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
August 02 2012 17:32 GMT
#556
Just submit something and then work out the details. Most teams should be manner enough to work with your guys to reschedule for times that work. If you don't post anything, then no one is going to be able to reschedule, peroid, and you would just get penalized.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2503 Posts
August 02 2012 17:46 GMT
#557
Casting Ace versus Stealth Bunnies now:

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/pebble444
"Awaken my Child, and embrace the Glory that is your Birthright"
TL-TyranT
Profile Joined March 2010
United States87 Posts
August 02 2012 18:39 GMT
#558
Jeez Sentenal you and Penalties if Nikon decides to then he will give them out, but as stated before at the start of season 3 in season 2 it didn't do much good. I don't see why teams need to be penalized when things happen in life that don't go your way and can't make a lineup. The best choice is to recycle players if the opposing team captains agree to do so.
"Don"T GiVe uP, dOnT gIvE iN, TiLL yOu MuSTeR All ThaT LieS WiTHiN, To LeaD YoU A ChAnCe To WiN! " NeLSoN Personal Epic Quote
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 18:44:07
August 02 2012 18:43 GMT
#559
On August 03 2012 03:39 TL-TyranT wrote:
Jeez Sentenal you and Penalties if Nikon decides to then he will give them out, but as stated before at the start of season 3 in season 2 it didn't do much good. I don't see why teams need to be penalized when things happen in life that don't go your way and can't make a lineup. The best choice is to recycle players if the opposing team captains agree to do so.

o_O

Uhhh, guy, I was suggesting a way for him to not get his team penalized. Nikon himself said there would be penalties for late lineups. He makes the rules, not me. I dunno why you are trying to start that whole argument all over again.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
TL-TyranT
Profile Joined March 2010
United States87 Posts
August 02 2012 18:58 GMT
#560
I am not trying to and Nikon never said it stop trying to act innocent you've been on the Penalties issue for a while now not everyone can make the early or late time for drtl as there is things more important to do unexpectedly. If Nikon has issued Penalties then id like to see the quote from him originally otherwise I don't believe you. As for my reasons on why I am seemingly calling you out is cuz its annoying to see majority of the time you speak of penalties, while I do admit you do help with discussion its just been a few times. I'll drop the case if I see the quote.
"Don"T GiVe uP, dOnT gIvE iN, TiLL yOu MuSTeR All ThaT LieS WiTHiN, To LeaD YoU A ChAnCe To WiN! " NeLSoN Personal Epic Quote
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