[OSL] Ro8 Day 3 - Page 86

On June 28 2012 00:50 ppshchik wrote:
I don't see Flash beating Fantasy if Fantasy advances to RO4, Fantasy is on fire lately.

On June 27 2012 21:32 NicksonReyes wrote:
Yeah, I get that the dude made a mistake, but now I feel bad for him. Admitting the mistake and an apology would've been enough(for me) since Flash won the game anyway.

On June 28 2012 01:28 HighTemper wrote:
That's just too harsh imo, the referee made, although not the best, an acceptable call to continue the game. The corrupted save game was not his fault.


Are you judging from his performance in the Ro16 against 3 royal roaders? And also he's not performing that well in the PL atm.

Not a fan for both players, but this S-class clash might well be the best series of this OSL. Don't let me down Fanta, beat soO...

On June 28 2012 00:50 ppshchik wrote:
I don't see Flash beating Fantasy if Fantasy advances to RO4, Fantasy is on fire lately.

On June 27 2012 09:56 Caihead wrote:


wait you mean they didn't upload games of GO? I was looking forward to watching those

On June 27 2012 18:24 NicksonReyes wrote:
Well, I was disappointed that shine decided to go kwanro and tried to cheese the life out of flash, so I don't think he did pretty well, but I'm glad Flash's long TvZ streak(that began with a win against shine iirc) was ended with a pretty awesome cheese, not some boring rush with a streak of luck. Games 1 and 3 are awesome.

On June 28 2012 16:26 NicksonReyes wrote:

Yeah Fantasy is definitely on fire lately. With his current 2-loss streak including a game against classic, I don't see him losing against Flash on a Bo5.

On June 29 2012 13:44 beachbeachy wrote:


Flash's peak play is greater than anyone's peak play. He never 'slumps' and his mental fortitude is never lacking. I think everyone can agree on this? What I'm getting to is that is that if flash brings his best game and fantasy brings his, flash will come out on top. Going off flash's track record, i never see him as the underdog.

On June 29 2012 22:29 Nick_54 wrote:


I disagree that his peak is greater than everyone elses (hes lost to other top players in many big proleague games and starleague series before) I've seen him slump before (even after his prime back to back msl/osl bowouts vs classic and hyuk among others), and his will and mental fortitude was surely broken after the power outage game. So I don't agree with all that. I mean since the start of 2011 I think hes won 1 starleague, he's no where near as dominant as 2010.

I'm giving Fantasy a good shot after the proleague finals game. I wouldn't put much stock into a mere 2 game losing streak. Fantasy will be well prepared for the bo5. I may be completely wrong though, so we will see.

On June 30 2012 01:21 revy wrote:


I don't think there can be any debate that Flash's peak was greater than anybody still playing the game. I can't really compare Flash's peak to Nada's, Oov's, or Savior's; each prospered in different times which makes direct comparison difficult. But this is beside the point, Flash is not playing like 2010 Flash as you stated. Despite Flash not playing like he did in 2010, he's still Flash, possibly the GOAT, who is hungry to take home the final BW title and claim his place as having the most major tournament wins. I think everyone can agree that the series will be close, based largely on the PL finals game. Still though, I can't see giving Fanta anything better than a 45% chance on taking a BO5 from Flash.

I think we're in for a treat. I only hope it can live up to their MSL semifinal BO5.

Kind of unfair to say "since the start of 2011 he's only won 1 starleague". How many starleagues have their been since then? 2 OSLs and 2 MSLs excluding the one we're in right now, of which Flash won 1 of them. While having wrist problems and surgery?

On June 29 2012 22:29 Nick_54 wrote:


I disagree that his peak is greater than everyone elses (hes lost to other top players in many big proleague games and starleague series before) I've seen him slump before (even after his prime back to back msl/osl bowouts vs classic and hyuk among others), and his will and mental fortitude was surely broken after the power outage game. So I don't agree with all that. I mean since the start of 2011 I think hes won 1 starleague, he's no where near as dominant as 2010.

I'm giving Fantasy a good shot after the proleague finals game. I wouldn't put much stock into a mere 2 game losing streak. Fantasy will be well prepared for the bo5. I may be completely wrong though, so we will see.

On June 30 2012 07:23 GolemMadness wrote:


Your reason for his peak not being greater than everyone else's is that... he's lost to other top players before? What? His peak is making every final in a year, winning winner's league, proleague and WCG. Pretty sure that makes up for "losing to other top players" before.

Flash has NEVER slumped over a significant period of time. People say that Flash is slumping when his win rate falls below 65% for a bit. Fantasy's win rate overall is ~61%. Flash's overall TVT win rate is over THIRTEEN PERCENT higher than Fantasy's. That's incredible.

On June 30 2012 09:43 Nick_54 wrote:


I guess I interpretted peak differently than you did. If you are talking about best accomplishments then yes his peak is better than anyone elses.

I guess I compare a players peak is when two players have ample preperation for the most important events. He's lost his fair share of big matches as well like the MSL finals to Jaedong, OSL finals to Effort, winners league final to Bisu, and the 0-2 to Fantasy and Bisu in the most recent proleague finals.

I guess what I'm saying is when players like Jaedong, Bisu, Stork, Jangbi, Effort, and Fantasy bring their A+ game they are more than capable of beating Flash even when he is on point as well. I think Fantasy showed this when he narrowly lost 2-3 in the GSL finals and defeated Flash in the proleague finals.

Sorry if I'm coming off as a Flash hater. He is the best player and I love to watch him play, but I don't think hes head and shoulders above all others. Other S class players vs T can defeat him in a best of 5 and they have before. I'm gonna drop this though, I guess we'll find out in a few weeks whos right.