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On June 03 2012 16:30 densha wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2012 16:27 Lightwip wrote:On June 03 2012 16:20 BLinD-RawR wrote:On June 03 2012 16:18 Lightwip wrote:On June 03 2012 16:15 SarcasmMonster wrote:
I think people are getting a wrong impression of SC2 from these games.
You know how bad these guys are playing BW in these PL games? You guys keep telling me that BW is normally not boring like they have been recently. Well, it's basically that times 10 for the SC2 games. They really are new to the game and bad. You know, even D+ BW games are fun to watch. no they're not... But you're a Flash fan! For you, boring=fun. Vice versa must be true too. On June 03 2012 16:21 SarcasmMonster wrote:On June 03 2012 16:18 Lightwip wrote:On June 03 2012 16:15 SarcasmMonster wrote:
I think people are getting a wrong impression of SC2 from these games.
You know how bad these guys are playing BW in these PL games? You guys keep telling me that BW is normally not boring like they have been recently. Well, it's basically that times 10 for the SC2 games. They really are new to the game and bad. You know, even D+ BW games are fun to watch. I'm not sure how D+ compares to Korean pros, but I've not been impressed with BW at all from these PL games. They are mostly boring, one-sided, and cheesy (especially the Zergs). My point is that it would be unfair to judge BW by these PL games. It would be especially unfair to judge SC2 from these games since they very little experience with the new game. My point is, SC2 should be able to deliver at a lower level of play because BW does to a pretty good extent. It does not. It does, actually. The problem with PL is that these players are not "even matches" for each other. The skill range is so wide that one player seems to dominate, or one player makes a huge mistake that even a plat wouldn't make (like Fantasy lowering his supply depot just now..).
To be precise, this is the kind of huge mistake Fantasy would always make even in BW.
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Stork interview should be hilarious.
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SKT 7th? A sight I haven't seen since 2007.
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On June 03 2012 16:31 aznball123 wrote:
I thought there were going to be more gosu games, not really looking forward to the Kespa/MLG event as much now.
Edit: Oh yeah, that was a nice attack from Stork, I thought it was going to go 2-3 base, wasn't expecting an attack.
I would at least look out for Jaedong, Flash and Zero. They already showed some potential.
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All the bad teams last round are doing well this time around.
I suppose sucking in PL gives you extra time to practice SC2.
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On June 03 2012 16:33 sM.Zik wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2012 16:31 aznball123 wrote:
I thought there were going to be more gosu games, not really looking forward to the Kespa/MLG event as much now.
Edit: Oh yeah, that was a nice attack from Stork, I thought it was going to go 2-3 base, wasn't expecting an attack. I would at least look out for Jaedong, Flash and Zero. They already showed some potential.
Effort too. He impressed me the most.
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On June 03 2012 16:31 Arceus wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2012 16:29 Judicator wrote:On June 03 2012 16:28 Arceus wrote:
wtf lol I thought that attack was rather suicidal no? fantasy pulled scvs way too late those workers needed to be pulled before the fight even started and they needed to be hugging the bunker. Stork runs up the ramp with a bunch of zealots + 2 sentries, and it appears that he breaks thru the bunker defense without losing any unit, plus constantly rallying in more into gg
He walled the marines so Fantasy couldn't micro, workers weren't pulled to cover the bunker from force fields, Fantasy lost as soon as he lost the bunker.
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On June 03 2012 16:33 SarcasmMonster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2012 16:33 sM.Zik wrote:On June 03 2012 16:31 aznball123 wrote:
I thought there were going to be more gosu games, not really looking forward to the Kespa/MLG event as much now.
Edit: Oh yeah, that was a nice attack from Stork, I thought it was going to go 2-3 base, wasn't expecting an attack. I would at least look out for Jaedong, Flash and Zero. They already showed some potential. Effort too. He impressed me the most.
effort is not going to mlg anaheim. for that matter, neither is zero. unless you meant to say soulkey
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On June 03 2012 16:33 SarcasmMonster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2012 16:33 sM.Zik wrote:On June 03 2012 16:31 aznball123 wrote:
I thought there were going to be more gosu games, not really looking forward to the Kespa/MLG event as much now.
Edit: Oh yeah, that was a nice attack from Stork, I thought it was going to go 2-3 base, wasn't expecting an attack. I would at least look out for Jaedong, Flash and Zero. They already showed some potential. Effort too. He impressed me the most.
Yea but Effort won't be at the MLG event.
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On June 03 2012 16:33 SarcasmMonster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2012 16:33 sM.Zik wrote:On June 03 2012 16:31 aznball123 wrote:
I thought there were going to be more gosu games, not really looking forward to the Kespa/MLG event as much now.
Edit: Oh yeah, that was a nice attack from Stork, I thought it was going to go 2-3 base, wasn't expecting an attack. I would at least look out for Jaedong, Flash and Zero. They already showed some potential. Effort too. He impressed me the most.
Effort is not in the Kespa expo tournament at MLG Anaheim. Kinda sad since he is really good in both games.
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At least the last game was worth staying up for, seeing Stork exhale a sigh of relief is precious.
The highlight of the night though was Sharp's victory and interview.
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Actually I was also wrong, Zero won't be there either its Soulkey, my bad.
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I like Fantasy's control, he looks like he can be really good once he correctly evaluates what the units can and can't do. He just thought Stork can't mount any offense but 1 base 4-gate is still viable especially when you force a cancel on the nexus.
Bisu on the other hand looks lost as fuck.
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On June 03 2012 16:36 Judicator wrote:
I like Fantasy's control, he looks like he can be really good once he correctly evaluates what the units can and can't do. He just thought Stork can't mount any offense but 1 base 4-gate is still viable especially when you force a cancel on the nexus.
Bisu on the other hand looks lost as fuck.
Both realllllly need to work on SC2.
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On June 03 2012 16:38 Alabasern wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2012 16:36 Judicator wrote:
I like Fantasy's control, he looks like he can be really good once he correctly evaluates what the units can and can't do. He just thought Stork can't mount any offense but 1 base 4-gate is still viable especially when you force a cancel on the nexus.
Bisu on the other hand looks lost as fuck. Both realllllly need to work on SC2.
I mean at least it's really basic stuff because it's obvious the control is there, they're just thinking that their units can do things that the units simply can't.
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On June 03 2012 16:38 Alabasern wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2012 16:36 Judicator wrote:
I like Fantasy's control, he looks like he can be really good once he correctly evaluates what the units can and can't do. He just thought Stork can't mount any offense but 1 base 4-gate is still viable especially when you force a cancel on the nexus.
Bisu on the other hand looks lost as fuck. Both realllllly need to work on SC2.
It's wierd that Flash Jaedong and Stork have so far looked much better than Bisu and Fantasy. Somethin up with the skt1 sc2 regime?
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I'm, right now, watching GSL Open Season 1 game two (Maka v. Bev, TvP). I can't believe how similar at least game 1 is to what I've seen in PL. The game knowledge is literally at square one right now for many BW pros. I really look forward to these guys getting better, I just hope it doesn't take two years!
I believe it's free to watch for anyone, btw: http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens1/vod/1014/?set=1
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That game remind me of what a Fantasy vs Stork game look like in the early part of Fantasy's career. Fantasy had a nice build, caught Stork off guard, and did damage. But he screws up the execution(in this case moving into the main when he had the chance, and Stork recovers and use his superior game sense to win.
Stork seems to have a good understanding of the game, knowing Fantasy's weakness at that point in time and lacking bunkers. I think this sort of thing will allow him to transition well, assuming he cares enough about SC2 to continue practice it full-time.
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Fantasy wasn't probably aware of that timing window and didn't know how to approach that particular situation (the game was a lot closer than he thought it was since he didn't find the forward pylon or the probe associated with it. You see top level players accounting for the number of roaming probes on the map and almost all of them would have at least sent a marine to that tower in the middle. Like literally Fantasy was ahead if he picked up on the forward pylons on the retreat home but he didn't and Stork effectively shrunk the map size into half with protoss warpgate tech.
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On June 03 2012 16:40 rysecake wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2012 16:38 Alabasern wrote:On June 03 2012 16:36 Judicator wrote:
I like Fantasy's control, he looks like he can be really good once he correctly evaluates what the units can and can't do. He just thought Stork can't mount any offense but 1 base 4-gate is still viable especially when you force a cancel on the nexus.
Bisu on the other hand looks lost as fuck. Both realllllly need to work on SC2. It's wierd that Flash Jaedong and Stork have so far looked much better than Bisu and Fantasy. Somethin up with the skt1 sc2 regime?
The PL finals set them back a fair bit. Who would practice for an inferior game when the most important thing is to win the last real BW tournament?
Flash is younger and a terran, so there's that.
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