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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-15 19:26:32
May 15 2012 06:44 GMT
#1
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2012 OnGameNet StarLeague Ro16 Day 1
15th May 10:30 GMT (+00:00)



Got questions about the OSL? Read the the Ultimate OSL FAQ


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Due to new map changes which should take effect in the OSL as well, the previous predictions have to be radically changed.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=337537
Set 1: (P)JangBi < Neo Ground Zero > (T)Bogus
This would be the game of the night if not for the new map changes. Due to the new changes to Neo Ground Zero, the third base gas has been removed and the cliff behind the natural removed. This removes the possibility of siege tank drop ship play as well as makes it very difficult for the terran to do a 3 base doom push due to reduced gas. The map now heavily encourages early-mid game timing pushes from the terran or a more vulture heavy style of play to punish the protoss before the protoss' macro gets out of hand. It's a difficult prediction but Jangbi should take this one.

Jangbi was 2-1 vs terran on the previous iteration of the map with his loss to (T)Flash and wins over Bad TvPers (T)Sea and (T)Light. Where as bogus has pulled off convincing wins against (P)Stats and (P)By.Sun. But due to the changes to the map I predict that if Bogus can not win the game with a early-mid game push then jangbi will win.

Set 2: (T)Rush < Neo Electric Circuit > (P)Grape
Neo Electric Circuit has gone unchanged. Grape has a 2-0 record on this map but only against zergs, Rush also has a 1-0 record but only against zerg. The PvT sample size on this map is also literally just 1 game, making this game very difficult to predict as both players have literally next to no showing in this match up. Grape's vT has never been inspiring and the only pedigree Rush has vP is beat Stats in his prelim matches to qualify for the ODT. I'm leaning towards Grape taking this one simply by virtue of having more broadcasted vT experience.

Set 3: (Z)Hydra < Gladiator > (Z)SoulKey
Gladiator has a radial structure almost ensuring that the players will opt to scout cross map with their first overlord. The map has a very open center with ramps that allows very easy ways to hide zerglings for back stabs and surprise attacks. Hydra's vZ has been very shaky lately and even though the last two games of Soulkey's have also been loses, one was an awesome game vs Jaedong. Again this becomes a very difficult game to predict but expect speedling shenanigans. I'm leaning towards Soulkey taking this one.

Set 4: (Z)ZerO < New Sniper Ridge > (P)Horang2
This could easily be the game of the night. Sniper Ridge has been readjusted for a more exposed third, but that wouldn't affect the state of PvZ till the late game if the zerg opts to go for expansions at the corner main/natural spots. Head to head Zero is 1:0 over Horang2 with a game on Neo Electric Circuit, and though his vP record seems bad at a glance, two of his losses were against Kal and Stork. Horang2's record vs Z has also been a 0-2 wipe this season but showed glimpses of brilliance in his first game against Flash in the playoffs. The map is more advantageous for the zerg due to the ability to stall protoss forces in the middle of the map with ramps and long travel distance to avoid being killed by the two base doom push from the protoss. Expecting a win by ZerO with a lurker contain or just straight out macro game from >=4 bases.



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(P)JangBi < Neo Ground Zero > (T)Bogus
(T)Rush < Neo Electric Circuit > (P)Grape
(Z)Hydra < Gladiator > (Z)SoulKey
(Z)ZerO < New Sniper Ridge > (P)Horang2





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(P)JangBi > (T)Bogus
(T)Rush < (P)Grape
(Z)Hydra < (Z)SoulKey
(Z)ZerO > (P)Horang2

+ Show Spoiler [Set 1] +

(P)JangBi > (T)Bogus

+ Show Spoiler [Set 2] +

(T)Rush < (P)Grape

+ Show Spoiler [Set 3] +

(Z)Hydra < (Z)SoulKey

+ Show Spoiler [Set 4] +

(Z)ZerO > (P)Horang2



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Streams will be added





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+ Show Spoiler [Set 1] +

Poll: Recommend Game 1?

Yes (27)
 
84%

No (5)
 
16%

32 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



+ Show Spoiler [Set 2] +

Poll: Recommend Game 2?

Yes (28)
 
76%

No (9)
 
24%

37 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



+ Show Spoiler [Set 3] +

Poll: Recommend Game 3?

No (19)
 
90%

Yes (2)
 
10%

21 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



+ Show Spoiler [Set 4] +

Poll: Recommend Game 4?

Yes (13)
 
52%

No (12)
 
48%

25 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 4?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No








Thanks to Ryo/GTR for the schedule / groups, BLinD-RawR / HawaiianPig for the banner, and
many thanks to all our user streams!

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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
May 15 2012 06:45 GMT
#2
Since no one's done one yet and it's only a few hours to the games I threw this one together, pm me if you want to add things or use your own thread.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19270 Posts
May 15 2012 06:52 GMT
#3
Thank you! Sucks that D3 is about to start!!!!! Jangbi, Rush Soulkey, Zero! GOGO
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thealexw87
Profile Joined February 2011
United States47 Posts
May 15 2012 06:53 GMT
#4
I predict Jangbi, Grape, Soulkey and Horang2 gogo! The Soulkey/ hydra match will be interesting. i have a feeling Jangbi will play really well even though Bogus is on a tear at the OSL.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
May 15 2012 06:56 GMT
#5
On May 15 2012 15:45 Caihead wrote:
Since no one's done one yet and it's only a few hours to the games I threw this one together, pm me if you want to add things or use your own thread.


This used to be pretty unthinkable for OSL Ro16. So sad to see BW in its state now. I can only hope for good games where you can see players actually practicing. But won't be surprised if game quality is more reminiscent of the ODTs.
Meh
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
May 15 2012 06:58 GMT
#6
On May 15 2012 15:56 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2012 15:45 Caihead wrote:
Since no one's done one yet and it's only a few hours to the games I threw this one together, pm me if you want to add things or use your own thread.


This used to be pretty unthinkable for OSL Ro16. So sad to see BW in its state now. I can only hope for good games where you can see players actually practicing. But won't be surprised if game quality is more reminiscent of the ODTs.


Yea, I'm doing predictions to get some hype going, hope for some good games tonight, not sure if the map changes are taking effect already, writing predictions with them in mind.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
oldgregg
Profile Joined February 2011
New Zealand1176 Posts
May 15 2012 07:20 GMT
#7
thank you Cailhead! I'm hopin to see some jangbang storms COME ON JANGBIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
Calculatedly addicted to Substance D for profit by drug terrorists
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4366 Posts
May 15 2012 07:27 GMT
#8
Set 3 hive gogogogogo

So many cool players today. Battle of the cuties!
Sucker for nostalgia
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-15 07:33:04
May 15 2012 07:27 GMT
#9
Predictions:
Due to new map changes which should take effect in the OSL as well, the previous predictions have to be radically changed.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=337537
Set 1: (P)JangBi < Neo Ground Zero > (T)Bogus
This would be the game of the night if not for the new map changes. Due to the new changes to Neo Ground Zero, the third base gas has been removed and the cliff behind the natural removed. This removes the possibility of siege tank drop ship play as well as makes it very difficult for the terran to do a 3 base doom push due to reduced gas. The map now heavily encourages early-mid game timing pushes from the terran or a more vulture heavy style of play to punish the protoss before the protoss' macro gets out of hand. It's a difficult prediction but Jangbi should take this one.

Jangbi was 2-1 vs terran on the previous iteration of the map with his loss to (T)Flash and wins over Bad TvPers (T)Sea and (T)Light. Where as bogus has pulled off convincing wins against (P)Stats and (P)By.Sun. But due to the changes to the map I predict that if Bogus can not win the game with a early-mid game push then jangbi will win.

Set 2: (T)Rush < Neo Electric Circuit > (P)Grape
Neo Electric Circuit has gone unchanged. Grape has a 2-0 record on this map but only against zergs, Rush also has a 1-0 record but only against zerg. The PvT sample size on this map is also literally just 1 game, making this game very difficult to predict as both players have literally next to no showing in this match up. Grape's vT has never been inspiring and the only pedigree Rush has vP is beat Stats in his prelim matches to qualify for the ODT. I'm leaning towards Grape taking this one simply by virtue of having more broadcasted vT experience.

Set 3: (Z)Hydra < Gladiator > (Z)SoulKey
Gladiator has a radial structure almost ensuring that the players will opt to scout cross map with their first overlord. The map has a very open center with ramps that allows very easy ways to hide zerglings for back stabs and surprise attacks. Hydra's vZ has been very shaky lately and even though the last two games of Soulkey's have also been loses, one was an awesome game vs Jaedong. Again this becomes a very difficult game to predict but expect speedling shenanigans. I'm leaning towards Soulkey taking this one.

Set 4: (Z)ZerO < New Sniper Ridge > (P)Horang2
This could easily be the game of the night. Sniper Ridge has been readjusted for a more exposed third, but that wouldn't affect the state of PvZ till the late game if the zerg opts to go for expansions at the corner main/natural spots. Head to head Zero is 1:0 over Horang2 with a game on Neo Electric Circuit, and though his vP record seems bad at a glance, two of his losses were against Kal and Stork. Horang2's record vs Z has also been a 0-2 wipe this season but showed glimpses of brilliance in his first game against Flash in the playoffs. The map is more advantageous for the zerg due to the ability to stall protoss forces in the middle of the map with ramps and long travel distance to avoid being killed by the two base doom push from the protoss. Expecting a win by ZerO with a lurker contain or just straight out macro game from >=4 bases.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
May 15 2012 07:31 GMT
#10


Nukethestars predictions and explanations of the Ro16
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
May 15 2012 07:42 GMT
#11
JangBang! and Horangee
Stork[gm]
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-15 07:46:00
May 15 2012 07:45 GMT
#12
OH!
ES!
EL!
HYPUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EDIT: Thanks for the last minute thread calihead ^_^
jaedong imba
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
May 15 2012 07:47 GMT
#13
On May 15 2012 16:45 slappy wrote:
OH!
ES!
EL!
HYPUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EDIT: Thanks for the last minute thread calihead ^_^


=3 np, just hope i can stay up long enough to update it as games happen. Diablo 3 didn't let me on, not sure good or bad.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Mazer
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1086 Posts
May 15 2012 07:52 GMT
#14
Gonna have a nap before the games :/

Any idea if there are some type of ceremonies prior to the first game? Don't want to watch k-pop at 6:00 AM.
SlowBullets
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States839 Posts
May 15 2012 08:27 GMT
#15
finally some bw..
1:1 go sc2 LAN? Oh wait...
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
May 15 2012 08:36 GMT
#16
thanks Caihead, I enjoyed reading predictions. I think that Bogus, however, should be a favourite. And Rush will stomp Grape for sure (I guess I'm just afraid of terrans).
Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
May 15 2012 08:53 GMT
#17
Live, or rebroadcast? That is the question....Im thinking live this time.
GOGO Soulkey!!!
Bisu[about JD]=I was scared (laughs). The force emanating from his facial expression was so manly that I was even a little jealous.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
May 15 2012 08:54 GMT
#18
Whoo, let's get it on
Ah, babe, let's get it on
Let's love, baby
Let's get it on, sugar
Let's get it on
Whoo-ooh-ooh
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
May 15 2012 09:06 GMT
#19
Why lineups after prediction? Should the first imho.
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50435 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-15 09:26:38
May 15 2012 09:26 GMT
#20
On May 15 2012 15:52 BisuDagger wrote:
Thank you! Sucks that D3 is about to start!!!!! Jangbi, Rush Soulkey, Zero! GOGO


+ Show Spoiler [related to D3] +
whatever bro, blizzard doesn't want my money, battle.net thinks my credit card is loco.


Bogus Grape Soulkey and Zero!!!!!!!
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