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man
Profile Joined November 2005
United States272 Posts
November 16 2005 05:56 GMT
#41
but they don't want to be just "decent" perhaps?
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
November 16 2005 06:10 GMT
#42
It seriously isnt that big of a deal, people joke around about other peoples ethnicities and nationality all the time. The koreans were obviously being dipshits in the last clanwar vs sea and there was a bit of tension and people joked around. Big deal, really, get over it. If mondragon called them a rice eater BIG FUCKING DEAL =)
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Suicide
Profile Joined December 2002
United States475 Posts
November 16 2005 06:11 GMT
#43
Hmm, weight a minute, are we on the internet? Racism on the internet? HOLY JEEZ! Granted it's ToT, granted it's during the league, but its an online channel and its someone who isn't even on the roster for sccl, get over it.

Don't Talk to strafe or type /squelch next time...

jeez, what a bunch of whiny people.

I think the punishment for oG) is a bit severe though, because from what they said it seemed to be a larger misunderstanding, hurt by a language barrier =\ oh well
Life drags on
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-11-16 06:12:18
November 16 2005 06:11 GMT
#44
On November 16 2005 14:56 man wrote:
but they don't want to be just "decent" perhaps?


Decent as in honourable and honest, not as people with a little above average skill you tard.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
November 16 2005 06:57 GMT
#45
Meh, more drama.
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
November 16 2005 06:58 GMT
#46
your mom goes to college
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
November 16 2005 07:16 GMT
#47
On November 16 2005 12:34 ArCNeON(TE) wrote:
what the hell does penalty point even mean? :D Does it mean they lose pts in the league ? If so... rofl


3 penalty points convert into 1 point lost in standings for that team. so ToT), getting 2 penalty points, basically got a warning.

oG), getting 6 penalty points, got a 2 point deduction from their standings
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
exkgb
Profile Joined September 2005
United States504 Posts
November 16 2005 07:32 GMT
#48
You guys should let it go
iG.DrunkenTiger
Profile Joined November 2005
13 Posts
November 16 2005 07:45 GMT
#49
It is hilarious how Control always miserably fails to deliver anything worth reading. Its just so blatantly obvious you're sucking Mondragons dick because he invited you into ToT) because he is in ToT) and because you're in ToT). Anyone who is in ToT) that actually tries and defends Mondragon is fucking pathetic. The only person worthy of doing that without being a pussy and speaking the truth, all of it, and NOTHING but it is Trek. Trek will tell you how it is. The rest of you guys just suck on Mondys dick thinking of stupid bullshit to justify his actions when you all know he was wrong for what he did.

First of all everyone in ToT) sucks mondys dick and I don't mean that offensively I'm just telling how it is. I think most people would agree, lol. With that being said... Mondy at any time could have simply called it off. You're arguments are worthless INC because everyone that knows ToT) knows for a fact that Mondy could have called the shit talking off at any time. Is it so hard to explain to one of your members what hes doing is childish, and will further result in him being kicked from the team because he gives everyone a bad message for his team? Most teams don't tolerate that shit, not even -X17.

You know to me its amazing. A team like -X17 with such a fucking shitty reputation.... would have dealt with something like this as a simple GOOD-BYE. There woulddn't be any questions asked. As Co-Leader if I ever witnessed that in any circumstance there would be no telling him to stop. I have certain expectations I make sure my team knows my expectations. I set up rules that I expect to be followed or harsh consequences will be the result. I'm a very patient man however. Most people say i'm not, I think I am.

Well the point is that Mondragon failed as a leader. It wasn't Strafes fault. It was Mondragons fault. He either misinforned strafe or didn't inform him at all on what he expects as a leader. Mondragon is a shitty leader thats all it is. He doesn't know jack shit about leading teams. He tagbans teams from his channel after losing CWs to them? Pretty funny. And his racist comments should be dealt with even more so harshly. Racism isn't tolerated in the world Not anywhere. Not on the internet not in real life. Its a serious offense. Joking or not. Doesn't fucking matter only children joke about shit like that.

It was obvious the sore loser Mondragon said riceeater because he got raped. It was obvious that Strafe was "defending" ( yah right.. lol ) his team, by shit talking Koreans in general. Not only did he shit Koreans for playing BroodWar but he began to shit talk them as a race. Therse no excuse for that, and if you've seen Strafes picture you'd know why
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
November 16 2005 07:59 GMT
#50
word to the wise: dont argue with Lee here the kid has a ability to argue like never before seen (100x worse than me). Even by me warning the rest of you with this post i am going to get flamed pretty hard by Lee's next post, the fact of the matter is i dont care hes a X17 legend in motor mouth division so consider yourself warned!
AhKillEaSe
Profile Joined October 2005
Ireland55 Posts
November 16 2005 08:16 GMT
#51
http://www.esl-europe.net/eu/scbw/sccl/season1/player/1515433/
That's strafe : Rob 'DogEater' verspui
iG.BettleJuice_ESL
Profile Joined November 2005
Poland7 Posts
November 16 2005 08:20 GMT
#52
Ok, ill answer few questions.
1st. What penalty points mean in fact.
- Every 3 penalty points means -1 point from ranking but :
- every team got 5 wildcards, every wildcard is worth -2 penalty point, so if team wont use wildcards, that means that at the end those unused wildcards will remove 10 penalty points.

2nd. Why Mondi is banned for one playday.
There was a lot of insulting etc. mostly from Strafe, but because Strafe isnt in SCCL team, and he belongs to ToT, leader of ToT has been punished.

3rd. oG) after this incident will be observed. so if account sharing will happen again, probably oG) will say bye to this league.

Some other questions ?
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
November 16 2005 08:22 GMT
#53
Yeah, who asked that?
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
iG.DrunkenTiger
Profile Joined November 2005
13 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-11-16 08:24:38
November 16 2005 08:23 GMT
#54
On November 16 2005 16:59 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
word to the wise: dont argue with Lee here the kid has a ability to argue like never before seen (100x worse than me). Even by me warning the rest of you with this post i am going to get flamed pretty hard by Lee's next post, the fact of the matter is i dont care hes a X17 legend in motor mouth division so consider yourself warned!


You're right about one thing when you make a childish comment like that you deserve to get flamed but i'm going to do it like I have a brain. I'm not going to bash you.I defend my race out of pride from people like Strafe that makes me a motor mouth? lol? I don't argue for fun. I argue when i'm defending something that I believe is right. Theres a difference.... if I truly believe in something i'm going to act like I believe in it and that means defending it all costs has nothing to do with arguing AT ALL. Its about pride.
iG.BettleJuice_ESL
Profile Joined November 2005
Poland7 Posts
November 16 2005 08:27 GMT
#55
On November 16 2005 17:22 BCloud wrote:
Yeah, who asked that?

many ppl ;P
Sky101
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States1758 Posts
November 16 2005 08:27 GMT
#56
Defending your race lol, pride lol.
Peter, Dang, pm me!!!
Sky101
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States1758 Posts
November 16 2005 08:28 GMT
#57
On November 16 2005 16:45 iG.DrunkenTiger wrote:Therse no excuse for that, and if you've seen Strafes picture you'd know why

Yah, because he towers over you guys?
Peter, Dang, pm me!!!
jeddus
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States832 Posts
November 16 2005 08:45 GMT
#58
On November 16 2005 13:15 1tym wrote:
Not when it was a response to strafe's the gooks comment.
"Of course the korean = gook the rice eaters." I wouldn't personally get offended by such term, but it is a professional league which requires professional spirit. It is not the matter of whether you get offended or not, It is the matter of whether if his actions were appropriate or not.


If you don't think racism exists in professional sports then you probably haven't spent much time in the planet Earth.
sex appeal
meth_0d
Profile Joined October 2005
United States112 Posts
November 16 2005 09:45 GMT
#59
On November 16 2005 17:45 jeddus wrote:
If you don't think racism exists in professional sports then you probably haven't spent much time in the planet Earth.

Racism exists everywhere. But most people keep their racism hidden. Professional sports means you're in the public eye - hence, you have to conduct yourself in a "professional" manner. No one's gonna give a fuck if you're some redneck talking shit about other races in your own house. But if you're gonna say that shit where other people can hear you, then what else do you expect? For the race you're insulting to sit by and laugh?
Life is what you make it.
meth_0d
Profile Joined October 2005
United States112 Posts
November 16 2005 09:48 GMT
#60
On November 16 2005 17:28 Sky101 wrote:
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On November 16 2005 16:45 iG.DrunkenTiger wrote:Therse no excuse for that, and if you've seen Strafes picture you'd know why

Yah, because he towers over you guys?


In the context of the original post, that makes no sense. And as a joke, it sucks.
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