• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:21
CEST 16:21
KST 23:21
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror4[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10
Community News
Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup10StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026)73Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double2Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple3
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4) StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026) SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup Back to SC2 after 14 years - Protoss CTRL groups?
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Grand Finals Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) SC2 INu's Battles#21 [ 3-Days tournament ]
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 546 Catch the Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble
Brood War
General
20-year-old Valorant player starting StarCraft Sagi.gg Launcher Released BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Fantasy returning? BSL Season 23
Tourneys
[ASL22] Semifinal B [ASL22] Semifinal A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 4
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Zero
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Dating: How's your luck? Artificial Intelligence Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Escaping Into Video Games: G…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9007 users

Decision on the ToT/oG issue - Page 2

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
November 16 2005 03:52 GMT
#21
clawson i think we play iD? cant remember...

1tym the manager "banned" strafe aka fired him. And when he didnt do anything, it was cause he was not "in the store" or "in a game"
1tym
Profile Joined April 2005
Korea (South)2425 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-11-16 04:24:31
November 16 2005 04:01 GMT
#22
The problem is that the incident went on for way too long. There are total of about 12 different screenshots. You know what that means? Not in one any of the TOT members are expressing the discomfort or a single warning. As a leader he should've intervened way earlier or warned him. But that is not the case. That is negligence. Not to mention that he actually chipped in the insulting of the Korean members.
1tym is one time for your mind
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-11-16 04:14:40
November 16 2005 04:05 GMT
#23
control he has a point. while mondragon did do the right thing regarding kicking strafe from the clan, he definitely could've intervened a little earlier in the channel?

edit: oh haha i was under the impression strafe got kicked from tot, guess not
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
1tym
Profile Joined April 2005
Korea (South)2425 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-11-16 04:11:21
November 16 2005 04:08 GMT
#24
From the channel, not from the clan

and please, let's not skip the part that mondragon actually took a part in it.
1tym is one time for your mind
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
November 16 2005 04:14 GMT
#25
you honestly can't take that serious

he said rice eaters once, if you get offended by that, you better live in exile the rest of your life :[
Moderator
1tym
Profile Joined April 2005
Korea (South)2425 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-11-16 04:17:29
November 16 2005 04:15 GMT
#26
Not when it was a response to strafe's the gooks comment.
"Of course the korean = gook the rice eaters." I wouldn't personally get offended by such term, but it is a professional league which requires professional spirit. It is not the matter of whether you get offended or not, It is the matter of whether if his actions were appropriate or not.
1tym is one time for your mind
ReTr0[p.S]
Profile Joined March 2005
Argentina1590 Posts
November 16 2005 04:15 GMT
#27
On November 16 2005 13:14 Twisted wrote:
you honestly can't take that serious

he said rice eaters once[

and i wonder why people doesn't love him <3
BinGBonG[gamei]
Profile Joined May 2003
Netherlands514 Posts
November 16 2005 04:19 GMT
#28
i think it is much better for the other teams than for ig. actually u only need to be in top 6 to play in play offs and for getting out the top 6 we need to lose about everything 1-4 i think it does matter for teams like tmg since now they got much bigger chance in beating them so they can get into the top 6. and in the play offs the og) koreans can play again.
but if i actually think in korean style about it i dont think they have problems to replace there gamers with other gamers since they got a whole pissed Sea. team who want to help them win :D
Smoke weed everyday ~-_-~
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
November 16 2005 04:23 GMT
#29
that comment wasnt in response to strafe, it was in response to "Dissy did you win?"
"No the riceeater won" aka one of the koreans.
1tym
Profile Joined April 2005
Korea (South)2425 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-11-16 04:31:19
November 16 2005 04:27 GMT
#30
Well it still doesn't justify his actions. If you're a leader, especially given mondi's status, many of the teammates/players are looking up to him. Why encourage strafe like that? Even strafe is saying "manner mondi" sarcastically after he says that. Anyway, I leave you with the judgement.
It was a fair call by SCCL admins, hopefully further incidents like this won't happen any time soon.
Account sharing as well.
1tym is one time for your mind
John Doe
Profile Joined November 2005
Fiji71 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-11-16 04:40:30
November 16 2005 04:34 GMT
#31
If you notice - the only people arguing that this is "okay" to be racist in the slightest sense - are the 'official' ToT members. >.<
To know that we know what we know, and to know that we do not know what we do not know, that is true knowledge.
SayTT
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2158 Posts
November 16 2005 04:47 GMT
#32
hey plz dont start arguing with control. Every thread gets 20 pages, it doesent matter if hes right or wrong. JUST DONT START PLZ :/
-,-
1tym
Profile Joined April 2005
Korea (South)2425 Posts
November 16 2005 04:53 GMT
#33
On November 16 2005 13:47 SayTT wrote:
hey plz dont start arguing with control. Every thread gets 20 pages, it doesent matter if hes right or wrong. JUST DONT START PLZ :/
1tym is one time for your mind
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
November 16 2005 04:54 GMT
#34
On November 16 2005 13:53 1tym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2005 13:47 SayTT wrote:
hey plz dont start arguing with control. Every thread gets 20 pages, it doesent matter if hes right or wrong. JUST DONT START PLZ :/
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
November 16 2005 05:01 GMT
#35
On November 16 2005 13:34 John Doe wrote:
If you notice - the only people arguing that this is "okay" to be racist in the slightest sense - are the 'official' ToT members. >.<


Dunno if your making referance to me, all im saying is why dissy did what he did and how its not a big deal. Never said it was ok, in fact i said he made a mistake by doing it if you read my comments..

Im not arguing over this, its a old subject and its stupid. But if your going to bring it up im going to make sure facts are straight, pretty much my only concern.
lungo
Profile Joined October 2005
Denmark276 Posts
November 16 2005 05:17 GMT
#36
man, these stories kinda make me sad, why should oG) recruit 4-5 sea. members in the first place?
as Arnold said: you have been erased! but dont worry!
mcmascote
Profile Joined September 2004
Brazil1575 Posts
November 16 2005 05:29 GMT
#37
let it go!








it isnt funny anymore
The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities.
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-11-16 05:30:00
November 16 2005 05:29 GMT
#38
On November 16 2005 14:17 lungo wrote:
man, these stories kinda make me sad, why should oG) recruit 4-5 sea. members in the first place?


To win their clan wars.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
man
Profile Joined November 2005
United States272 Posts
November 16 2005 05:32 GMT
#39
how else are they supposed to compete? by getting players like me? come on now, they just want to win
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
November 16 2005 05:34 GMT
#40
By practicing and playing themselves, like every other decent clan perhaps?
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 9h 39m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech125
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 5536
Bisu 3045
Soulkey 1209
Jaedong 1023
Horang2 616
EffOrt 571
Mini 403
actioN 362
Larva 326
ZerO 247
[ Show more ]
ggaemo 236
Mind 95
Pusan 85
Sea.KH 78
Shinee 76
Sharp 76
hero 72
Dewaltoss 67
Snow 62
Hyun 56
sorry 52
Barracks 44
Bale 44
ToSsGirL 35
Sacsri 22
scan(afreeca) 18
Trap 18
NaDa 15
Rock 14
Terrorterran 13
ajuk12(nOOB) 10
zelot 8
Icarus 6
Noble 6
Dota 2
Gorgc4835
qojqva2970
Dendi1081
Counter-Strike
Fnx 572
fl0m0
Other Games
olofmeister1222
hiko938
B2W.Neo753
Lowko349
crisheroes270
DeMusliM265
Pyrionflax216
XBOCT198
Hui .192
Livibee165
Liquid`VortiX152
QueenE86
Mew2King46
Liquid`RaSZi35
ZerO(Twitch)18
Organizations
StarCraft 2
IntoTheiNu 1083
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream35
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 50
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 17
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV649
League of Legends
• Nemesis2507
• Jankos1995
Other Games
• Shiphtur151
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
9h 39m
Patches Events
1d 1h
The PondCast
1d 19h
INu's Battles
1d 20h
Percival vs TBD
Zoun vs herO
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
OSC
3 days
BSL: Ladder Tournament
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Patches Events
5 days
[ Show More ]
BSL Open Qualifier
5 days
BSL Open Qualifier
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSB
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
HCC Season 3
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.