On April 21 2012 13:17 Kiett wrote: Today is going to be Stork's 100th win in OSL (if he wins his games). He'll be the 3rd to obtain 100 wins in OSL after Boxer and Yellow :3
:O interesting then again stork has been around longer than most people think.
On April 21 2012 13:17 Kiett wrote: Today is going to be Stork's 100th win in OSL (if he wins his games). He'll be the 3rd to obtain 100 wins in OSL after Boxer and Yellow :3
:O interesting then again stork has been around longer than most people think.
Next to Flash he has been the most consistent OSL player since his debut. I think it is somewhere around 15 ro16 appearances?
On April 21 2012 13:20 VGhost wrote: I just noticed OGN is displaying the Blizzard logo now. That's new.
It's actually kinda old. It was part of the IP rights settlement that they agreed on like almost a year ago. I first saw it during the last MSL finals.
On April 21 2012 13:20 VGhost wrote: I just noticed OGN is displaying the Blizzard logo now. That's new.
It's actually kinda old. It was part of the IP rights settlement that they agreed on like almost a year ago. I first saw it during the last MSL finals.
DOH!!! Corsair flies head fast onto the scourge and stops Stork is screwed, 5 mutalisk chasing back the zealot probe. Nat being seiged by hero, Stork defending with corsair and dragoon but is receiving massive damage
So, lets get this straight Killer 3 hatch before pool, Bogus bunker rushes Now Stork 2 gates vs 12 hatch And Hero might muta all in because of late stargate
I feel like a lot of random shit happened in this year's games just because of their practicing of sc2/ not 100% concentration. omg. Please survive storkuu.
On April 21 2012 13:17 TheKefka wrote: If stork dies to hydras I'm gonna be seriously pissed
I think it is time for you to get pissed :D
meh,he was fucked anyway after that 2 gate did no damage and his stargate was soooo late mutas just wrecked him. At that point he was so far behind that he couldn't hold it if he wanted too.
The "wow so bad, he must be playing SC2 full-time" comments are almost as annoying as the "wow, how much did he get paid for that loss" comments after the match-fixing scandal broke out.
Sometimes S class players play like crap, deal with it.
On April 21 2012 13:35 Black[CAT] wrote: That Zerg players looks a little like Seungri from BigBang. Shit, this is what SC2 has done to the skills of BW players...
I really don't think that's the fair thing to say about that game. Hero did the best response with scouting to stork's build. Stork didn't lose because you think he was playing SC2, he just got hard hard countered and couldn't do anything about it.
no proleague probably makes finding practice partners difficult as well, very little incentive for your teammates to take time off sc2 (their new livelihood) to help prefer for an osl.
:< I'm really disappointed with this spam of SC2 conspiracies especially when it's from KT fans. At least support the players if you don't agree with the decisions of KESPA or the team coaches...
On April 21 2012 13:38 Caihead wrote: :< I'm really disappointed with this spam of SC2 conspiracies especially when it's from KT fans. At least support the players if you don't agree with the decisions of KESPA or the team coaches...
On April 21 2012 13:35 Black[CAT] wrote: That Zerg players looks a little like Seungri from BigBang. Shit, this is what SC2 has done to the skills of BW players...
I really don't think that's the fair thing to say about that game. Hero did the best response with scouting to stork's build. Stork didn't lose because you think he was playing SC2, he just got hard hard countered and couldn't do anything about it.
What really killed stork was not watching his first corsair and just sitting it in the zerg nat vs 2 hatch muta.
On April 21 2012 13:38 Caihead wrote: :< I'm really disappointed with this spam of SC2 conspiracies especially when it's from KT fans. At least support the players if you don't agree with the decisions of KESPA or the team coaches...
What really killed stork was not watching his first corsair and just sitting it in the zerg nat vs 2 hatch muta.
It's a conspiracy theory for you to say he's playing bad exclusively because he's playing more SC2. I already said at least support the players if you don't agree with the decision of the team coaches or KESPA. Hero also had zergling watching the starport timing the whole time so he knew to prepare to hide mutas / snipe corsair?
On April 21 2012 13:42 casualman wrote: No one is in the audience today. I'm pretty sure average GOM shows draw a larger studio audience than this.
Not really. The Ro32 GSL Code S match I went to (Taeja, Nada, Coca, Oz) still only had like, 15 people. Once again, people just dont attend lower rounds of leagues.
On April 21 2012 13:42 casualman wrote: No one is in the audience today. I'm pretty sure average GOM shows draw a larger studio audience than this.
Not really. The Ro32 GSL Code S match I went to (Taeja, Nada, Coca, Oz) still only had like, 15 people. Once again, people just dont attend lower rounds of leagues.
On April 21 2012 13:42 casualman wrote: No one is in the audience today. I'm pretty sure average GOM shows draw a larger studio audience than this.
Not really. The Ro32 GSL Code S match I went to (Taeja, Nada, Coca, Oz) still only had like, 15 people. Once again, people just dont attend lower rounds of leagues.
but that was months ago right?
If it was coca in Code S then yeah it was a long long time ago lol
Bogus : I played sc2 during my free time and my marine control has become much better as you can see my multi tasking have improve because sc2 is so fast in it's game play . Look forward to me owning up the next season .
On April 21 2012 14:06 Zhang wrote: quick question: what bigger in Korea: LoL or SC2?
LoL, by far.
I hate LoL. Not because of blind hatred, I just am envious of it's success and wish either of the Starcraft games would take it's place. I just don't get what all the hype behind it is about.. ah well
On April 21 2012 14:06 Zhang wrote: quick question: what bigger in Korea: LoL or SC2?
LoL, by far.
I hate LoL. Not because of blind hatred, I just am envious of it's success and wish either of the Starcraft games would take it's place. I just don't get what all the hype behind it is about.. ah well
gj Bogus...though really weird game.
Casual games are much more dominant now days and sc2 is still hardcore compared to the likes of LoL and Dota 2.
On April 21 2012 14:06 Zhang wrote: quick question: what bigger in Korea: LoL or SC2?
LoL, by far.
I hate LoL. Not because of blind hatred, I just am envious of it's success and wish either of the Starcraft games would take it's place. I just don't get what all the hype behind it is about.. ah well
gj Bogus...though really weird game.
Casual games are much more dominant now days and sc2 is still hardcore compared to the likes of LoL and Dota 2.
On April 21 2012 14:06 Zhang wrote: quick question: what bigger in Korea: LoL or SC2?
LoL, by far.
I hate LoL. Not because of blind hatred, I just am envious of it's success and wish either of the Starcraft games would take it's place. I just don't get what all the hype behind it is about.. ah well
gj Bogus...though really weird game.
I am interested in LoL though, at least enough to follow LoL the Champions casually. Since they're different genre I can follow them both without much conflict.
On April 21 2012 14:01 Sawamura wrote: Bogus : I played sc2 during my free time and my marine control has become much better as you can see my multi tasking have improve because sc2 is so fast in it's game play . Look forward to me owning up the next season .
On April 21 2012 14:01 Sawamura wrote: Bogus : I played sc2 during my free time and my marine control has become much better as you can see my multi tasking have improve because sc2 is so fast in it's game play . Look forward to me owning up the next season .
On April 21 2012 14:01 Sawamura wrote: Bogus : I played sc2 during my free time and my marine control has become much better as you can see my multi tasking have improve because sc2 is so fast in it's game play . Look forward to me owning up the next season .
did he really say that?
plz sawamura tell you are trolling :/
I am sorry Kennage I had to do it because of all the sc2 things are happening to our scene and Coach juu keep talking about how the game is improving their players ability lol... I am trolling
On April 21 2012 14:12 Black[CAT] wrote: WTF?! They sort-of copied SC2 style of no countdown... Fuck, those countdowns were epic!
Or maybe the producers messed up and missed the camera timing?
its not the first time, im pretty sure they didnt show the count down in the group B either, because i did noticed it that day, not sure if they did the same with group A, i dont recall *insert jaehoon face here*
On April 21 2012 14:21 Motivate wrote: damn we have seen like no zvz this season x.x
I'm actually fine with this, since ZvZ is my least favorite matchup in BW. And considering the low quality of these games, I would really dislike a generic, low-quality ZvZ.
I hope Stork does well against Hero. I really want to see him advance.
So milkis was right all along pro bw players have been practising sc2 and bw side by side and here we are looking at bw played at the highest quality as possible . Poor killer and baby your coach was saying how good sc2 is in improving your bw game play but than both of you played so horrible compared to the days you were practising sc bw full time .
On April 21 2012 14:25 Sawamura wrote: So milkis was right all along pro bw players have been practising sc2 and bw side by side and here we are looking at bw played at the highest quality as possible . Poor killer and baby your coach was saying how good sc2 is in improving your bw game play but than both of you played so horrible compared to the days you were practising sc bw full time .
On April 21 2012 14:20 Vuk_91 wrote: Wow Killer...What happened to you bro...?
Starcraft 2 happen bro ......
Cmon don`t blame SC2 when it`s really not it`s fault,he sucked hard since he lost in OSL against SoO. He didn`t start to practice SC2 back then
Did you read the interview translated by optical shot ? Team 8 coach was talking about how they were playing sc2 all day long it definitely has some contribution to them playing poorly.
well if this is an indication of what the quality of games will be like for the rest of the OSL then I probably won't even finish this OSL, let alone watch any of next season's Proleague :\
Oh god I really hope JD doesn't play as shitty as baby/killer
On April 21 2012 14:28 Ideas wrote: well if this is an indication of what the quality of games will be like for the rest of the OSL then I probably won't even finish this OSL, let alone watch any of next season's Proleague :\
Oh god I really hope JD doesn't play as shitty as baby/killer
I remember how everyone was saying how the last proleague finals was fantastic and intense and no one questioned rather SC2 was negatively affecting the teams, then now this interview comes out and everybody is jumping back on the bandwagon even though according to it the SC2 training was supposed to have been going on for a long time (dating before the proleague finals). Especially if you go by the fact that people said SKT is the team that most heavily invested in SC2 and they won the finals.
Regardless of sc2 or not, games today have been more build order wins than anything ie Stork's semiallin 4gate speedzeal or proxy rax vs 3hat before pool, 2hat muta into 3hat hydra vs 2gate expand etc (temp archives wasn't even finished when hero attacked)
Killer wasn't winning that game vs Stork playing BW full time or not.
On April 21 2012 14:28 Ideas wrote: well if this is an indication of what the quality of games will be like for the rest of the OSL then I probably won't even finish this OSL, let alone watch any of next season's Proleague :\
Oh god I really hope JD doesn't play as shitty as baby/killer
I remember how everyone was saying how the last proleague finals was fantastic and intense and no one questioned rather SC2 was negatively affecting the teams, then now this interview comes out and everybody is jumping back on the bandwagon even though according to it the SC2 training was supposed to have been going on for a long time (dating before the proleague finals). Especially if you go by the fact that people said SKT is the team that most heavily invested in SC2 and they won the finals.
Interview stated that stx was the one who invested most of the time in sc2 before other team that's why their players were having difficulty adjusting back to bw .
On April 21 2012 14:28 Ideas wrote: well if this is an indication of what the quality of games will be like for the rest of the OSL then I probably won't even finish this OSL, let alone watch any of next season's Proleague :\
Oh god I really hope JD doesn't play as shitty as baby/killer
What`s wrong with you people??? Last season of proleague had so many stupid games and series even,and then what happened? Yeah,the best PL finals ever...And the whole playoff was kick ass if you ask me... So please stop crying
On April 21 2012 14:28 Ideas wrote: well if this is an indication of what the quality of games will be like for the rest of the OSL then I probably won't even finish this OSL, let alone watch any of next season's Proleague :\
Oh god I really hope JD doesn't play as shitty as baby/killer
I remember how everyone was saying how the last proleague finals was fantastic and intense and no one questioned rather SC2 was negatively affecting the teams, then now this interview comes out and everybody is jumping back on the bandwagon even though according to it the SC2 training was supposed to have been going on for a long time (dating before the proleague finals). Especially if you go by the fact that people said SKT is the team that most heavily invested in SC2 and they won the finals.
"You guys are too caught up in the fact that we practiced SC2 prior to the previous season, but we honestly stopped playing SC2 when the season started, and only recently picked it up again."
"We honestly played SC2 for just 2 weeks, okay? We forbid the players from playing it after that."
On April 21 2012 14:28 Ideas wrote: well if this is an indication of what the quality of games will be like for the rest of the OSL then I probably won't even finish this OSL, let alone watch any of next season's Proleague :\
Oh god I really hope JD doesn't play as shitty as baby/killer
I remember how everyone was saying how the last proleague finals was fantastic and intense and no one questioned rather SC2 was negatively affecting the teams, then now this interview comes out and everybody is jumping back on the bandwagon even though according to it the SC2 training was supposed to have been going on for a long time (dating before the proleague finals). Especially if you go by the fact that people said SKT is the team that most heavily invested in SC2 and they won the finals.
Interview stated that stx was the one who invested most of the time in sc2 before other team that's why their players were having difficulty adjusting back to bw .
Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic
On April 21 2012 14:28 Ideas wrote: well if this is an indication of what the quality of games will be like for the rest of the OSL then I probably won't even finish this OSL, let alone watch any of next season's Proleague :\
Oh god I really hope JD doesn't play as shitty as baby/killer
I remember how everyone was saying how the last proleague finals was fantastic and intense and no one questioned rather SC2 was negatively affecting the teams, then now this interview comes out and everybody is jumping back on the bandwagon even though according to it the SC2 training was supposed to have been going on for a long time (dating before the proleague finals). Especially if you go by the fact that people said SKT is the team that most heavily invested in SC2 and they won the finals.
"You guys are too caught up in the fact that we practiced SC2 prior to the previous season, but we honestly stopped playing SC2 when the season started, and only recently picked it up again."
"We honestly played SC2 for just 2 weeks, okay? We forbid the players from playing it after that."
SKT knows its priorities. That's why we won. ^^
I'm not debating SKT, dont even start. I'm debating people who just jump to the conclusion that it's the evil SC2 when ever a game isn't a long drawn out close macro game.
On April 21 2012 14:28 Ideas wrote: well if this is an indication of what the quality of games will be like for the rest of the OSL then I probably won't even finish this OSL, let alone watch any of next season's Proleague :\
Oh god I really hope JD doesn't play as shitty as baby/killer
I remember how everyone was saying how the last proleague finals was fantastic and intense and no one questioned rather SC2 was negatively affecting the teams, then now this interview comes out and everybody is jumping back on the bandwagon even though according to it the SC2 training was supposed to have been going on for a long time (dating before the proleague finals). Especially if you go by the fact that people said SKT is the team that most heavily invested in SC2 and they won the finals.
Interview stated that stx was the one who invested most of the time in sc2 before other team that's why their players were having difficulty adjusting back to bw .
Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic
By logic stx was doing poorly in proleague performance but that doesn't mean their player isn't good and won't be able to qualify for ODT .
On April 21 2012 14:28 Ideas wrote: well if this is an indication of what the quality of games will be like for the rest of the OSL then I probably won't even finish this OSL, let alone watch any of next season's Proleague :\
Oh god I really hope JD doesn't play as shitty as baby/killer
What`s wrong with you people??? Last season of proleague had so many stupid games and series even,and then what happened? Yeah,the best PL finals ever...And the whole playoff was kick ass if you ask me... So please stop crying
last week's games were so much better than these. Coach's interview makes it sound like now all the players are in full sc2 swing. these games make it feel that way as well.
On April 21 2012 14:28 Ideas wrote: well if this is an indication of what the quality of games will be like for the rest of the OSL then I probably won't even finish this OSL, let alone watch any of next season's Proleague :\
Oh god I really hope JD doesn't play as shitty as baby/killer
I remember how everyone was saying how the last proleague finals was fantastic and intense and no one questioned rather SC2 was negatively affecting the teams, then now this interview comes out and everybody is jumping back on the bandwagon even though according to it the SC2 training was supposed to have been going on for a long time (dating before the proleague finals). Especially if you go by the fact that people said SKT is the team that most heavily invested in SC2 and they won the finals.
Interview stated that stx was the one who invested most of the time in sc2 before other team that's why their players were having difficulty adjusting back to bw .
Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic
By logic stx was doing poorly in proleague performance but that doesn't mean their player isn't good and won't be able to qualify for ODT .
That's such double standard logic, if their players are good they should be able to perform in proleague too.
On April 21 2012 14:28 Ideas wrote: well if this is an indication of what the quality of games will be like for the rest of the OSL then I probably won't even finish this OSL, let alone watch any of next season's Proleague :\
Oh god I really hope JD doesn't play as shitty as baby/killer
I remember how everyone was saying how the last proleague finals was fantastic and intense and no one questioned rather SC2 was negatively affecting the teams, then now this interview comes out and everybody is jumping back on the bandwagon even though according to it the SC2 training was supposed to have been going on for a long time (dating before the proleague finals). Especially if you go by the fact that people said SKT is the team that most heavily invested in SC2 and they won the finals.
Interview stated that stx was the one who invested most of the time in sc2 before other team that's why their players were having difficulty adjusting back to bw .
Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic
By logic stx was doing poorly in proleague performance but that doesn't mean their player isn't good and won't be able to qualify for ODT .
That's such double standard logic, if their players are good they should be able to perform in proleague too.
On April 21 2012 14:28 Ideas wrote: well if this is an indication of what the quality of games will be like for the rest of the OSL then I probably won't even finish this OSL, let alone watch any of next season's Proleague :\
Oh god I really hope JD doesn't play as shitty as baby/killer
I remember how everyone was saying how the last proleague finals was fantastic and intense and no one questioned rather SC2 was negatively affecting the teams, then now this interview comes out and everybody is jumping back on the bandwagon even though according to it the SC2 training was supposed to have been going on for a long time (dating before the proleague finals). Especially if you go by the fact that people said SKT is the team that most heavily invested in SC2 and they won the finals.
Interview stated that stx was the one who invested most of the time in sc2 before other team that's why their players were having difficulty adjusting back to bw .
Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic
By logic stx was doing poorly in proleague performance but that doesn't mean their player isn't good and won't be able to qualify for ODT .
That's such double standard logic, if their players are good they should be able to perform in proleague too.
So what's your problem man ?
What? My problem is with people who say reasons games are bad = SC2.
On April 21 2012 14:28 Ideas wrote: well if this is an indication of what the quality of games will be like for the rest of the OSL then I probably won't even finish this OSL, let alone watch any of next season's Proleague :\
Oh god I really hope JD doesn't play as shitty as baby/killer
I remember how everyone was saying how the last proleague finals was fantastic and intense and no one questioned rather SC2 was negatively affecting the teams, then now this interview comes out and everybody is jumping back on the bandwagon even though according to it the SC2 training was supposed to have been going on for a long time (dating before the proleague finals). Especially if you go by the fact that people said SKT is the team that most heavily invested in SC2 and they won the finals.
Interview stated that stx was the one who invested most of the time in sc2 before other team that's why their players were having difficulty adjusting back to bw .
Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic
By logic stx was doing poorly in proleague performance but that doesn't mean their player isn't good and won't be able to qualify for ODT .
That's such double standard logic, if their players are good they should be able to perform in proleague too.
So what's your problem man ?
What? My problem is with people who say reasons games are bad = SC2.
It's not making it easier when coaches were talking about their players playing sc2 all day long when they were suppose to put their time in broodwar.
On April 21 2012 14:28 Ideas wrote: well if this is an indication of what the quality of games will be like for the rest of the OSL then I probably won't even finish this OSL, let alone watch any of next season's Proleague :\
Oh god I really hope JD doesn't play as shitty as baby/killer
I remember how everyone was saying how the last proleague finals was fantastic and intense and no one questioned rather SC2 was negatively affecting the teams, then now this interview comes out and everybody is jumping back on the bandwagon even though according to it the SC2 training was supposed to have been going on for a long time (dating before the proleague finals). Especially if you go by the fact that people said SKT is the team that most heavily invested in SC2 and they won the finals.
Interview stated that stx was the one who invested most of the time in sc2 before other team that's why their players were having difficulty adjusting back to bw .
Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic
By logic stx was doing poorly in proleague performance but that doesn't mean their player isn't good and won't be able to qualify for ODT .
That's such double standard logic, if their players are good they should be able to perform in proleague too.
So what's your problem man ?
What? My problem is with people who say reasons games are bad = SC2.
SC2 is a factor, stork looks like he barely prepared. Bogus did the same strat twice and the two zergs were godawful
On April 21 2012 14:28 Ideas wrote: well if this is an indication of what the quality of games will be like for the rest of the OSL then I probably won't even finish this OSL, let alone watch any of next season's Proleague :\
Oh god I really hope JD doesn't play as shitty as baby/killer
I remember how everyone was saying how the last proleague finals was fantastic and intense and no one questioned rather SC2 was negatively affecting the teams, then now this interview comes out and everybody is jumping back on the bandwagon even though according to it the SC2 training was supposed to have been going on for a long time (dating before the proleague finals). Especially if you go by the fact that people said SKT is the team that most heavily invested in SC2 and they won the finals.
Interview stated that stx was the one who invested most of the time in sc2 before other team that's why their players were having difficulty adjusting back to bw .
Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic
By logic stx was doing poorly in proleague performance but that doesn't mean their player isn't good and won't be able to qualify for ODT .
That's such double standard logic, if their players are good they should be able to perform in proleague too.
So what's your problem man ?
What? My problem is with people who say reasons games are bad = SC2.
It's not making it easier when coaches were talking about their players playing sc2 all day long when they were suppose to put their time in broodwar.
It's more a fact that if you have this attitude then no amount of performance or justification is going to change your mind. We enjoyed games while milkis rambled about things and we didn't call every quick decisive game bad because SC2. Let's just enjoy what we can and not point fingers, please?
On April 21 2012 14:28 Ideas wrote: well if this is an indication of what the quality of games will be like for the rest of the OSL then I probably won't even finish this OSL, let alone watch any of next season's Proleague :\
Oh god I really hope JD doesn't play as shitty as baby/killer
I remember how everyone was saying how the last proleague finals was fantastic and intense and no one questioned rather SC2 was negatively affecting the teams, then now this interview comes out and everybody is jumping back on the bandwagon even though according to it the SC2 training was supposed to have been going on for a long time (dating before the proleague finals). Especially if you go by the fact that people said SKT is the team that most heavily invested in SC2 and they won the finals.
Interview stated that stx was the one who invested most of the time in sc2 before other team that's why their players were having difficulty adjusting back to bw .
Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic
By logic stx was doing poorly in proleague performance but that doesn't mean their player isn't good and won't be able to qualify for ODT .
That's such double standard logic, if their players are good they should be able to perform in proleague too.
So what's your problem man ?
What? My problem is with people who say reasons games are bad = SC2.
SC2 is a factor, stork looks like he barely prepared. Bogus did the same strat twice and the two zergs were godawful
This was my assumption too. Seems like they are hardly practicing.
Edit: Hero looked like he thought broodlings would spawn once his hatch died.
On April 21 2012 14:28 Ideas wrote: well if this is an indication of what the quality of games will be like for the rest of the OSL then I probably won't even finish this OSL, let alone watch any of next season's Proleague :\
Oh god I really hope JD doesn't play as shitty as baby/killer
I remember how everyone was saying how the last proleague finals was fantastic and intense and no one questioned rather SC2 was negatively affecting the teams, then now this interview comes out and everybody is jumping back on the bandwagon even though according to it the SC2 training was supposed to have been going on for a long time (dating before the proleague finals). Especially if you go by the fact that people said SKT is the team that most heavily invested in SC2 and they won the finals.
Interview stated that stx was the one who invested most of the time in sc2 before other team that's why their players were having difficulty adjusting back to bw .
Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic
By logic stx was doing poorly in proleague performance but that doesn't mean their player isn't good and won't be able to qualify for ODT .
That's such double standard logic, if their players are good they should be able to perform in proleague too.
So what's your problem man ?
What? My problem is with people who say reasons games are bad = SC2.
It's not making it easier when coaches were talking about their players playing sc2 all day long when they were suppose to put their time in broodwar.
It's more a fact that if you have this attitude then no amount of performance or justification is going to change your mind. We enjoyed games while milkis rambled about things and we didn't call every quick decisive game bad because SC2. Let's just enjoy what we can and not point fingers, please?
Look If I had a time machine I would gladly go back to 2008-2010 bw rather than to suffer at games being played at this quality .
On April 21 2012 14:28 Ideas wrote: well if this is an indication of what the quality of games will be like for the rest of the OSL then I probably won't even finish this OSL, let alone watch any of next season's Proleague :\
Oh god I really hope JD doesn't play as shitty as baby/killer
I remember how everyone was saying how the last proleague finals was fantastic and intense and no one questioned rather SC2 was negatively affecting the teams, then now this interview comes out and everybody is jumping back on the bandwagon even though according to it the SC2 training was supposed to have been going on for a long time (dating before the proleague finals). Especially if you go by the fact that people said SKT is the team that most heavily invested in SC2 and they won the finals.
Interview stated that stx was the one who invested most of the time in sc2 before other team that's why their players were having difficulty adjusting back to bw .
Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic
By logic stx was doing poorly in proleague performance but that doesn't mean their player isn't good and won't be able to qualify for ODT .
That's such double standard logic, if their players are good they should be able to perform in proleague too.
So what's your problem man ?
What? My problem is with people who say reasons games are bad = SC2.
It's not making it easier when coaches were talking about their players playing sc2 all day long when they were suppose to put their time in broodwar.
It's more a fact that if you have this attitude then no amount of performance or justification is going to change your mind. We enjoyed games while milkis rambled about things and we didn't call every quick decisive game bad because SC2. Let's just enjoy what we can and not point fingers, please?
We enjoyed games whilst proleague gave the teams a reason to practice. With the end of the last bw only season it's little wonder the players for OSL are struggling to find practice partners or time themselves. I've enjoyed most of the bw up to this point but if you don't see the quality of play and preparation today as an indicator of the sc2 impact then you probably haven't watched enough bw.
On April 21 2012 14:28 Ideas wrote: well if this is an indication of what the quality of games will be like for the rest of the OSL then I probably won't even finish this OSL, let alone watch any of next season's Proleague :\
Oh god I really hope JD doesn't play as shitty as baby/killer
I remember how everyone was saying how the last proleague finals was fantastic and intense and no one questioned rather SC2 was negatively affecting the teams, then now this interview comes out and everybody is jumping back on the bandwagon even though according to it the SC2 training was supposed to have been going on for a long time (dating before the proleague finals). Especially if you go by the fact that people said SKT is the team that most heavily invested in SC2 and they won the finals.
Interview stated that stx was the one who invested most of the time in sc2 before other team that's why their players were having difficulty adjusting back to bw .
Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic
By logic stx was doing poorly in proleague performance but that doesn't mean their player isn't good and won't be able to qualify for ODT .
That's such double standard logic, if their players are good they should be able to perform in proleague too.
So what's your problem man ?
What? My problem is with people who say reasons games are bad = SC2.
SC2 is a factor, stork looks like he barely prepared. Bogus did the same strat twice and the two zergs were godawful
People have been cheesing since before SC2 was announced. People have also been cheesing in consecutive games since before SC2 was announced. Honestly, I want good games too, but people have to stop being so whiny and pessimistic about every single cheesy game.
I remember how everyone was saying how the last proleague finals was fantastic and intense and no one questioned rather SC2 was negatively affecting the teams, then now this interview comes out and everybody is jumping back on the bandwagon even though according to it the SC2 training was supposed to have been going on for a long time (dating before the proleague finals). Especially if you go by the fact that people said SKT is the team that most heavily invested in SC2 and they won the finals.
Interview stated that stx was the one who invested most of the time in sc2 before other team that's why their players were having difficulty adjusting back to bw .
Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic
By logic stx was doing poorly in proleague performance but that doesn't mean their player isn't good and won't be able to qualify for ODT .
That's such double standard logic, if their players are good they should be able to perform in proleague too.
So what's your problem man ?
What? My problem is with people who say reasons games are bad = SC2.
It's not making it easier when coaches were talking about their players playing sc2 all day long when they were suppose to put their time in broodwar.
It's more a fact that if you have this attitude then no amount of performance or justification is going to change your mind. We enjoyed games while milkis rambled about things and we didn't call every quick decisive game bad because SC2. Let's just enjoy what we can and not point fingers, please?
Look If I had a time machine I would gladly go back to 2008-2010 bw rather than to suffer at games being played at this quality .
:/ I remember when decisive wins by cheesy / baller strats (see boxer vs yellow bunker rushes) made people excited rather than say they were suffering. What happened. Why is everyone so jaded.
Interview stated that stx was the one who invested most of the time in sc2 before other team that's why their players were having difficulty adjusting back to bw .
Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic
By logic stx was doing poorly in proleague performance but that doesn't mean their player isn't good and won't be able to qualify for ODT .
That's such double standard logic, if their players are good they should be able to perform in proleague too.
So what's your problem man ?
What? My problem is with people who say reasons games are bad = SC2.
It's not making it easier when coaches were talking about their players playing sc2 all day long when they were suppose to put their time in broodwar.
It's more a fact that if you have this attitude then no amount of performance or justification is going to change your mind. We enjoyed games while milkis rambled about things and we didn't call every quick decisive game bad because SC2. Let's just enjoy what we can and not point fingers, please?
Look If I had a time machine I would gladly go back to 2008-2010 bw rather than to suffer at games being played at this quality .
:/ I remember when decisive wins by cheesy / baller strats (see boxer vs yellow bunker rushes) made people excited rather than say they were suffering. What happened. Why is everyone so jaded.
New innovative strategies in 2004 =/= players not practicing and using same builds in 2012 while playing like shit
Interview stated that stx was the one who invested most of the time in sc2 before other team that's why their players were having difficulty adjusting back to bw .
Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic
By logic stx was doing poorly in proleague performance but that doesn't mean their player isn't good and won't be able to qualify for ODT .
That's such double standard logic, if their players are good they should be able to perform in proleague too.
So what's your problem man ?
What? My problem is with people who say reasons games are bad = SC2.
It's not making it easier when coaches were talking about their players playing sc2 all day long when they were suppose to put their time in broodwar.
It's more a fact that if you have this attitude then no amount of performance or justification is going to change your mind. We enjoyed games while milkis rambled about things and we didn't call every quick decisive game bad because SC2. Let's just enjoy what we can and not point fingers, please?
Look If I had a time machine I would gladly go back to 2008-2010 bw rather than to suffer at games being played at this quality .
:/ I remember when decisive wins by cheesy / baller strats (see boxer vs yellow bunker rushes) made people excited rather than say they were suffering. What happened. Why is everyone so jaded.
Back than we had boxer,nada,july,oov and now ........ I am going go take a long walk ...
I remember how everyone was saying how the last proleague finals was fantastic and intense and no one questioned rather SC2 was negatively affecting the teams, then now this interview comes out and everybody is jumping back on the bandwagon even though according to it the SC2 training was supposed to have been going on for a long time (dating before the proleague finals). Especially if you go by the fact that people said SKT is the team that most heavily invested in SC2 and they won the finals.
Interview stated that stx was the one who invested most of the time in sc2 before other team that's why their players were having difficulty adjusting back to bw .
Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic
By logic stx was doing poorly in proleague performance but that doesn't mean their player isn't good and won't be able to qualify for ODT .
That's such double standard logic, if their players are good they should be able to perform in proleague too.
So what's your problem man ?
What? My problem is with people who say reasons games are bad = SC2.
It's not making it easier when coaches were talking about their players playing sc2 all day long when they were suppose to put their time in broodwar.
It's more a fact that if you have this attitude then no amount of performance or justification is going to change your mind. We enjoyed games while milkis rambled about things and we didn't call every quick decisive game bad because SC2. Let's just enjoy what we can and not point fingers, please?
We enjoyed games whilst proleague gave the teams a reason to practice. With the end of the last bw only season it's little wonder the players for OSL are struggling to find practice partners or time themselves. I've enjoyed most of the bw up to this point but if you don't see the quality of play and preparation today as an indicator of the sc2 impact then you probably haven't watched enough bw.
Okay... show me a game were a zerg who isn't Soulkey held a bunker leap rush, or a game where a protoss held 2 hatch muta after failed 2 gate then. Are you dismissing bogus' and stork's micro in the games they won?
Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic
By logic stx was doing poorly in proleague performance but that doesn't mean their player isn't good and won't be able to qualify for ODT .
That's such double standard logic, if their players are good they should be able to perform in proleague too.
So what's your problem man ?
What? My problem is with people who say reasons games are bad = SC2.
It's not making it easier when coaches were talking about their players playing sc2 all day long when they were suppose to put their time in broodwar.
It's more a fact that if you have this attitude then no amount of performance or justification is going to change your mind. We enjoyed games while milkis rambled about things and we didn't call every quick decisive game bad because SC2. Let's just enjoy what we can and not point fingers, please?
Look If I had a time machine I would gladly go back to 2008-2010 bw rather than to suffer at games being played at this quality .
:/ I remember when decisive wins by cheesy / baller strats (see boxer vs yellow bunker rushes) made people excited rather than say they were suffering. What happened. Why is everyone so jaded.
New innovative strategies in 2004 =/= players not practicing and using same builds in 2012 while playing like shit
Sorry what part of Bogus' play was shitty? His control was fine.
On April 21 2012 14:28 Ideas wrote: well if this is an indication of what the quality of games will be like for the rest of the OSL then I probably won't even finish this OSL, let alone watch any of next season's Proleague :\
Oh god I really hope JD doesn't play as shitty as baby/killer
I remember how everyone was saying how the last proleague finals was fantastic and intense and no one questioned rather SC2 was negatively affecting the teams, then now this interview comes out and everybody is jumping back on the bandwagon even though according to it the SC2 training was supposed to have been going on for a long time (dating before the proleague finals). Especially if you go by the fact that people said SKT is the team that most heavily invested in SC2 and they won the finals.
Interview stated that stx was the one who invested most of the time in sc2 before other team that's why their players were having difficulty adjusting back to bw .
Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic
By logic stx was doing poorly in proleague performance but that doesn't mean their player isn't good and won't be able to qualify for ODT .
That's such double standard logic, if their players are good they should be able to perform in proleague too.
So what's your problem man ?
What? My problem is with people who say reasons games are bad = SC2.
SC2 is a factor, stork looks like he barely prepared. Bogus did the same strat twice and the two zergs were godawful
People have been cheesing since before SC2 was announced. People have also been cheesing in consecutive games since before SC2 was announced. Honestly, I want good games too, but people have to stop being so whiny and pessimistic about every single cheesy game.
I basically never whine about cheesy games, they're usually pretty entertaining. I don't even mind hydra busts. I loved Flash vs Bisu despite being a flash fan because it was high quality and well prepared. It's all about the quality of game and preparation. Today was just sloppy and half-ass with the losers rolling over.
I remember how everyone was saying how the last proleague finals was fantastic and intense and no one questioned rather SC2 was negatively affecting the teams, then now this interview comes out and everybody is jumping back on the bandwagon even though according to it the SC2 training was supposed to have been going on for a long time (dating before the proleague finals). Especially if you go by the fact that people said SKT is the team that most heavily invested in SC2 and they won the finals.
Interview stated that stx was the one who invested most of the time in sc2 before other team that's why their players were having difficulty adjusting back to bw .
Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic
By logic stx was doing poorly in proleague performance but that doesn't mean their player isn't good and won't be able to qualify for ODT .
That's such double standard logic, if their players are good they should be able to perform in proleague too.
So what's your problem man ?
What? My problem is with people who say reasons games are bad = SC2.
SC2 is a factor, stork looks like he barely prepared. Bogus did the same strat twice and the two zergs were godawful
People have been cheesing since before SC2 was announced. People have also been cheesing in consecutive games since before SC2 was announced. Honestly, I want good games too, but people have to stop being so whiny and pessimistic about every single cheesy game.
I basically never whine about cheesy games, they're usually pretty entertaining. I don't even mind hydra busts. I loved Flash vs Bisu despite being a flash fan because it was high quality and well prepared. It's all about the quality of game and preparation. Today was just sloppy and half-ass with the losers rolling over.
Man even in 2008 msl qualifiers the games were much more well thought out and compared to the one sided build order win we had today.
I remember how everyone was saying how the last proleague finals was fantastic and intense and no one questioned rather SC2 was negatively affecting the teams, then now this interview comes out and everybody is jumping back on the bandwagon even though according to it the SC2 training was supposed to have been going on for a long time (dating before the proleague finals). Especially if you go by the fact that people said SKT is the team that most heavily invested in SC2 and they won the finals.
Interview stated that stx was the one who invested most of the time in sc2 before other team that's why their players were having difficulty adjusting back to bw .
Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic
By logic stx was doing poorly in proleague performance but that doesn't mean their player isn't good and won't be able to qualify for ODT .
That's such double standard logic, if their players are good they should be able to perform in proleague too.
So what's your problem man ?
What? My problem is with people who say reasons games are bad = SC2.
SC2 is a factor, stork looks like he barely prepared. Bogus did the same strat twice and the two zergs were godawful
People have been cheesing since before SC2 was announced. People have also been cheesing in consecutive games since before SC2 was announced. Honestly, I want good games too, but people have to stop being so whiny and pessimistic about every single cheesy game.
I basically never whine about cheesy games, they're usually pretty entertaining. I don't even mind hydra busts. I loved Flash vs Bisu despite being a flash fan because it was high quality and well prepared. It's all about the quality of game and preparation. Today was just sloppy and half-ass with the losers rolling over.
I don't think you complained when flash rolled over jaedong or soo or alone
It's funny people are pissed about cheesy players winning. Because cheese done today are easily stopped by safe play. Hero scouted well and defended Stork's cheese in game 1. Every other game the zergs played fairly greedy. And they lost.
Interview stated that stx was the one who invested most of the time in sc2 before other team that's why their players were having difficulty adjusting back to bw .
Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic
By logic stx was doing poorly in proleague performance but that doesn't mean their player isn't good and won't be able to qualify for ODT .
That's such double standard logic, if their players are good they should be able to perform in proleague too.
So what's your problem man ?
What? My problem is with people who say reasons games are bad = SC2.
SC2 is a factor, stork looks like he barely prepared. Bogus did the same strat twice and the two zergs were godawful
People have been cheesing since before SC2 was announced. People have also been cheesing in consecutive games since before SC2 was announced. Honestly, I want good games too, but people have to stop being so whiny and pessimistic about every single cheesy game.
I basically never whine about cheesy games, they're usually pretty entertaining. I don't even mind hydra busts. I loved Flash vs Bisu despite being a flash fan because it was high quality and well prepared. It's all about the quality of game and preparation. Today was just sloppy and half-ass with the losers rolling over.
Man even in 2008 msl qualifiers the games were much more well thought out and compared to the one sided build order win we had today.
I dont understand your statement, a strategy that's well thought out usually does lead to one sided build order wins, see S2's games vs KT in the winners league finals
Interview stated that stx was the one who invested most of the time in sc2 before other team that's why their players were having difficulty adjusting back to bw .
Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic
By logic stx was doing poorly in proleague performance but that doesn't mean their player isn't good and won't be able to qualify for ODT .
That's such double standard logic, if their players are good they should be able to perform in proleague too.
So what's your problem man ?
What? My problem is with people who say reasons games are bad = SC2.
It's not making it easier when coaches were talking about their players playing sc2 all day long when they were suppose to put their time in broodwar.
It's more a fact that if you have this attitude then no amount of performance or justification is going to change your mind. We enjoyed games while milkis rambled about things and we didn't call every quick decisive game bad because SC2. Let's just enjoy what we can and not point fingers, please?
We enjoyed games whilst proleague gave the teams a reason to practice. With the end of the last bw only season it's little wonder the players for OSL are struggling to find practice partners or time themselves. I've enjoyed most of the bw up to this point but if you don't see the quality of play and preparation today as an indicator of the sc2 impact then you probably haven't watched enough bw.
Okay... show me a game were a zerg who isn't Soulkey held a bunker leap rush, or a game where a protoss held 2 hatch muta after failed 2 gate then. Are you dismissing bogus' and stork's micro in the games they won?
If it can't be held we'd see it alot more, clearly it gets held often enough in practice. Stork losing that first corsair was unforgivably bad. He wasnt even watching it and it was sitting on creep. 2 gate pressure into expand can hold 2 hatch if you hold the nat (alot more doable with an extra sair). The build order choice in the first place was also horrible and lazy, in-base 2 gate is just not good in modern bw (forward 2-gate in the last set was better). 'Oh I haven't prepared much for this map and can't hold hydra busts so i'll just do my build from 4+ years ago'.
Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic
By logic stx was doing poorly in proleague performance but that doesn't mean their player isn't good and won't be able to qualify for ODT .
That's such double standard logic, if their players are good they should be able to perform in proleague too.
So what's your problem man ?
What? My problem is with people who say reasons games are bad = SC2.
SC2 is a factor, stork looks like he barely prepared. Bogus did the same strat twice and the two zergs were godawful
People have been cheesing since before SC2 was announced. People have also been cheesing in consecutive games since before SC2 was announced. Honestly, I want good games too, but people have to stop being so whiny and pessimistic about every single cheesy game.
I basically never whine about cheesy games, they're usually pretty entertaining. I don't even mind hydra busts. I loved Flash vs Bisu despite being a flash fan because it was high quality and well prepared. It's all about the quality of game and preparation. Today was just sloppy and half-ass with the losers rolling over.
Man even in 2008 msl qualifiers the games were much more well thought out and compared to the one sided build order win we had today.
I dont understand your statement, a strategy that's well thought out usually does lead to one sided build order wins, see S2's games vs KT in the winners league finals
I like to see players fighting for their life and even balancing out the imbalance that some races have at that certain timing that' why I started watching bw . Iris v Bisu Avalon MsL was good because of that despite Bisu having a huge amount of advantage by elevating his units into Iris main and yet Iris was able to defend it and still won the game .
Man, I was just trying to peek carefully in the "Recommended games" without being spoiled. I just wanted to see if the games were good today and I'll watch the vods when I have time, then what I saw was "Speedlots" and "Manlots" in the losers' match and final match recommendation polls respectively, so that means that the ONLY protoss lost game 2 and then won twice -__________-
I guess I learned a lesson today that even the polls contain spoilers
On April 21 2012 14:53 NicksonReyes wrote: Man, I was just trying to peek carefully in the "Recommended games" without being spoiled. I just wanted to see if the games were good today and I'll watch the vods when I have time, then what I saw was "Speedlots" and "Manlots" in the losers' match and final match recommendation polls respectively, so that means that the ONLY protoss lost game 2 and then won twice -__________-
I guess I learned a lesson today that even the polls contain spoilers
Meh. They shouldn't, but it's not much of a loss today. The games were all bad. Only thing that matters is who advanced. Whoooo Stork and Bogus :D
On April 21 2012 14:53 NicksonReyes wrote: Man, I was just trying to peek carefully in the "Recommended games" without being spoiled. I just wanted to see if the games were good today and I'll watch the vods when I have time, then what I saw was "Speedlots" and "Manlots" in the losers' match and final match recommendation polls respectively, so that means that the ONLY protoss lost game 2 and then won twice -__________-
I guess I learned a lesson today that even the polls contain spoilers
Maybe we were too eager with the unorthodox poll options today :p (who can blame them after first three games though? Normal B teamer player would look amazing after that)
On April 21 2012 14:53 NicksonReyes wrote: Man, I was just trying to peek carefully in the "Recommended games" without being spoiled. I just wanted to see if the games were good today and I'll watch the vods when I have time, then what I saw was "Speedlots" and "Manlots" in the losers' match and final match recommendation polls respectively, so that means that the ONLY protoss lost game 2 and then won twice -__________-
I guess I learned a lesson today that even the polls contain spoilers
mai b, i'll keep that in mind if i ever do another LR, which is not likely unless noone else wants to do one again >_>
Games today might be terrible, but just like Group A, I'm happy no zergs got in again. All groups have 2 zergs each except Jaedong's group so this(two zergs being eliminated) might happen again tomorrow and in Group F and hopefully, there would be enough Protoss and Terran to balance this osl. Go Horang2! Advance along with Hiya so that no protoss will fall until Ro16!
If you watch recent PvZ's by the Khan twin cannons you will notice that they like to go 2gate quite often. Its not cheese and its not because they don't practice. Its what they like to do to mix it up once in a while.
On April 21 2012 17:27 pylonsalad wrote: If you watch recent PvZ's by the Khan twin cannons you will notice that they like to go 2gate quite often. Its not cheese and its not because they don't practice. Its what they like to do to mix it up once in a while.
ding ding ding!
And playing 7rax or 8rax or whatever it was doesn't suggest a lack of practise, it suggests you are an evil asshole who hates nice things. Bogus why you gotta be like that?
These games were depressingly average and cheesy today. I hope its not like this tomorrows games. Seriously watched all of the games in <15 minutes....
Well... dat were very strange games today, to say atleast. I hope that tomorrow we'll get to see some games invloving higher eco. Anyway, i'm glad that Stork advanced <3
What are you talking about all of you? How often you see 2gate/1gate play by protos vs zerg? M? Yep very rare. That's why todays games was NOT boring. Im tired to see every single game Fe Fe Fe FE Fe FE fE Fe... to same stargate-corsair citadel.. BORING. And Stork vs Killer was very good strategy and unusual play. Non speed zeilots with non +1 attack. Veryo smart. Today games was very good. Last game Hero should perform better defence but overall games was good. maybe, just maybe first game was little dissapointed but again not often we see 3h before pool for example. unfortunaly T was proxy rax.
I somewhat expected Stork to go Sair-Reaver vs Hero and pull off a convincing victory. And then the Winner game would be Bogus vs Stats 2.0 type of game that have both players go head to head with all their might.
On April 21 2012 22:44 iSometric wrote: I bet the SC2 has to do with the large # of shitty games this season.
Stars and SKT coaches were both surprised that this season, they would still have kept BW instead of making the switch upon seeing the release of the new BW maps.
And then KT and SKT finally decide to get their shit together at the last second. It really makes me wonder if all the teams focused on one game for ProLeague, we would have the PL Grand Final quality throughout the entire season with new strategies being devised for each set and players fighting hard. The influence of a new game have already been exhibited.
On April 21 2012 22:06 Jonvvv wrote: Just terrible games? Really?
I actually completely love the build Bogus used in his games, particularly the safety bunker. I actually have no idea how 12hatch is supposed to stop that if a player like Bogus who has really good SCV/Marine micro is leapfrogging with the timing he used.
Very Boxer-esque play and not just because of bunkers - that timing/micro/contingency package was filthy as shit.
stork being a total baller in interview and explaining he used old-school strategies specifically because he wanted to go back to BW classic roots and also because he wanted to prove that old-school gambles were still viable
On April 21 2012 22:06 Jonvvv wrote: Just terrible games? Really?
They had a week to prepare. No SPL to worry about and this is the best they could do. Depressing. For the sake of comparison here is Leta vs. Pure from the qualifiers to EVER OSL 2009:
On April 21 2012 23:24 tedster wrote: stork being a total baller in interview and explaining he used old-school strategies specifically because he wanted to go back to BW classic roots and also because he wanted to prove that old-school gambles were still viable
On April 21 2012 23:24 tedster wrote: stork being a total baller in interview and explaining he used old-school strategies specifically because he wanted to go back to BW classic roots and also because he wanted to prove that old-school gambles were still viable
On April 21 2012 22:06 Jonvvv wrote: Just terrible games? Really?
They had a week to prepare. No SPL to worry about and this is the best they could do. Depressing. For the sake of comparison here is Leta vs. Pure from the qualifiers to EVER OSL 2009: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4mhS6HLuy0
uh bogus' games were incredibly well-prepared and his micro was fantastic, sorry so many people hate classic bw because i consider it a treat to watch a player have the confidence and skill to successfully execute a ballsy boxer-style build TWICE to the point where I have no idea what hero, who micro'd very well, could have done to stop it
after the PL finals with amazing macro games and harass I am delighted to have a player show me the other side of the coin, a raw cowboy aggression and total commitment to winning that says "fuck the standards, these guys know I am better and are going to try to eke out an early advantage and I am going to shoot fish in a barrel"
not only that, but in an OSL filled with zerg players, Bogus (and, to a lesser degree, Stork) are going to be treated with extreme caution and fear for the rest of the tournament by swarm players. Bogus knows that this might be his last chance to take a Starleague title and that he has the skills to do it (Bogus has slumped a bit but there is no doubt the skill is there - most of his losses in the past year have been excellent games and he might be the unluckiest player in the game). Now people have to respect his early-game aggression and can't cut corners against him, which lets him more comfortably play to his midgame strengths.
I love the implications of these games and what they mean for the next few rounds, and would love to see Bogus go far in part due to excellent mind games that he cracked out during games with lesser zerg opponents whom he could confidently overwhelm given the right preparation.
On April 21 2012 14:53 NicksonReyes wrote: Man, I was just trying to peek carefully in the "Recommended games" without being spoiled. I just wanted to see if the games were good today and I'll watch the vods when I have time, then what I saw was "Speedlots" and "Manlots" in the losers' match and final match recommendation polls respectively, so that means that the ONLY protoss lost game 2 and then won twice -__________-
I guess I learned a lesson today that even the polls contain spoilers
Yeah, what the heck? Seriously, OP, don't do that. People look at the "recommended games" polls BEFORE they watch games to see if they should watch them. Don't put spoilers there.
On April 21 2012 14:53 NicksonReyes wrote: Man, I was just trying to peek carefully in the "Recommended games" without being spoiled. I just wanted to see if the games were good today and I'll watch the vods when I have time, then what I saw was "Speedlots" and "Manlots" in the losers' match and final match recommendation polls respectively, so that means that the ONLY protoss lost game 2 and then won twice -__________-
I guess I learned a lesson today that even the polls contain spoilers
Yeah, what the heck? Seriously, OP, don't do that. People look at the "recommended games" polls BEFORE they watch games to see if they should watch them. Don't put spoilers there.
Yeah exactly my thoughts. and exactly how should "SPEEDLOTS" or "MANLOTS" options tell if it's a good game or not.
You guys need to calm down, I already apologized for this. Also the games were terrible and I was bored with the poll options, this isn't the first time I've seen polls done this way and the people LR'ing seemed supportive of this. And this is my first time doing a LR thread, a whole 3 minutes before the matches started airing because nobody else wanted to make one as I said in my post 2 pages back. But I guess nobody reads and just wants to complain..
On April 24 2012 21:43 Toadily wrote: You guys need to calm down, I already apologized for this. Also the games were terrible and I was bored with the poll options, this isn't the first time I've seen polls done this way and the people LR'ing seemed supportive of this. And this is my first time doing a LR thread, a whole 3 minutes before the matches started airing because nobody else wanted to make one as I said in my post 2 pages back. But I guess nobody reads and just wants to complain..
Yes toadily is already doing a great service for you guys and If you feel like complaining about it than why don't you make the LR instead and than play it out the way you want .
EPT![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PO1UY.png?1)
Killer «Ground Zero» 
Bogus
Stork «Ground Zero» 
i wonder what he is gonna wear. probably his old hwaseung oz uniform?
