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nbaker
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1342 Posts
April 21 2012 05:45 GMT
#421
On April 21 2012 14:40 Scarecrow wrote:
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On April 21 2012 14:39 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:38 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:37 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:35 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:34 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:32 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:30 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:28 Ideas wrote:
well if this is an indication of what the quality of games will be like for the rest of the OSL then I probably won't even finish this OSL, let alone watch any of next season's Proleague :\

Oh god I really hope JD doesn't play as shitty as baby/killer


I remember how everyone was saying how the last proleague finals was fantastic and intense and no one questioned rather SC2 was negatively affecting the teams, then now this interview comes out and everybody is jumping back on the bandwagon even though according to it the SC2 training was supposed to have been going on for a long time (dating before the proleague finals). Especially if you go by the fact that people said SKT is the team that most heavily invested in SC2 and they won the finals.


Interview stated that stx was the one who invested most of the time in sc2 before other team that's why their players were having difficulty adjusting back to bw .


Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic


By logic stx was doing poorly in proleague performance but that doesn't mean their player isn't good and won't be able to qualify for ODT .


That's such double standard logic, if their players are good they should be able to perform in proleague too.


So what's your problem man ?


What? My problem is with people who say reasons games are bad = SC2.

SC2 is a factor, stork looks like he barely prepared. Bogus did the same strat twice and the two zergs were godawful


People have been cheesing since before SC2 was announced. People have also been cheesing in consecutive games since before SC2 was announced. Honestly, I want good games too, but people have to stop being so whiny and pessimistic about every single cheesy game.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
April 21 2012 05:45 GMT
#422
On April 21 2012 14:42 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 14:41 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:40 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:39 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:38 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:37 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:35 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:34 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:32 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:30 Caihead wrote:
[quote]

I remember how everyone was saying how the last proleague finals was fantastic and intense and no one questioned rather SC2 was negatively affecting the teams, then now this interview comes out and everybody is jumping back on the bandwagon even though according to it the SC2 training was supposed to have been going on for a long time (dating before the proleague finals). Especially if you go by the fact that people said SKT is the team that most heavily invested in SC2 and they won the finals.


Interview stated that stx was the one who invested most of the time in sc2 before other team that's why their players were having difficulty adjusting back to bw .


Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic


By logic stx was doing poorly in proleague performance but that doesn't mean their player isn't good and won't be able to qualify for ODT .


That's such double standard logic, if their players are good they should be able to perform in proleague too.


So what's your problem man ?


What? My problem is with people who say reasons games are bad = SC2.


It's not making it easier when coaches were talking about their players playing sc2 all day long when they were suppose to put their time in broodwar.


It's more a fact that if you have this attitude then no amount of performance or justification is going to change your mind. We enjoyed games while milkis rambled about things and we didn't call every quick decisive game bad because SC2. Let's just enjoy what we can and not point fingers, please?


Look If I had a time machine I would gladly go back to 2008-2010 bw rather than to suffer at games being played at this quality .


:/ I remember when decisive wins by cheesy / baller strats (see boxer vs yellow bunker rushes) made people excited rather than say they were suffering. What happened. Why is everyone so jaded.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
April 21 2012 05:46 GMT
#423
On April 21 2012 14:45 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 14:42 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:41 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:40 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:39 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:38 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:37 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:35 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:34 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:32 Sawamura wrote:
[quote]

Interview stated that stx was the one who invested most of the time in sc2 before other team that's why their players were having difficulty adjusting back to bw .


Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic


By logic stx was doing poorly in proleague performance but that doesn't mean their player isn't good and won't be able to qualify for ODT .


That's such double standard logic, if their players are good they should be able to perform in proleague too.


So what's your problem man ?


What? My problem is with people who say reasons games are bad = SC2.


It's not making it easier when coaches were talking about their players playing sc2 all day long when they were suppose to put their time in broodwar.


It's more a fact that if you have this attitude then no amount of performance or justification is going to change your mind. We enjoyed games while milkis rambled about things and we didn't call every quick decisive game bad because SC2. Let's just enjoy what we can and not point fingers, please?


Look If I had a time machine I would gladly go back to 2008-2010 bw rather than to suffer at games being played at this quality .


:/ I remember when decisive wins by cheesy / baller strats (see boxer vs yellow bunker rushes) made people excited rather than say they were suffering. What happened. Why is everyone so jaded.

New innovative strategies in 2004 =/= players not practicing and using same builds in 2012 while playing like shit
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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
April 21 2012 05:46 GMT
#424
On April 21 2012 14:45 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 14:42 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:41 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:40 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:39 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:38 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:37 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:35 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:34 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:32 Sawamura wrote:
[quote]

Interview stated that stx was the one who invested most of the time in sc2 before other team that's why their players were having difficulty adjusting back to bw .


Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic


By logic stx was doing poorly in proleague performance but that doesn't mean their player isn't good and won't be able to qualify for ODT .


That's such double standard logic, if their players are good they should be able to perform in proleague too.


So what's your problem man ?


What? My problem is with people who say reasons games are bad = SC2.


It's not making it easier when coaches were talking about their players playing sc2 all day long when they were suppose to put their time in broodwar.


It's more a fact that if you have this attitude then no amount of performance or justification is going to change your mind. We enjoyed games while milkis rambled about things and we didn't call every quick decisive game bad because SC2. Let's just enjoy what we can and not point fingers, please?


Look If I had a time machine I would gladly go back to 2008-2010 bw rather than to suffer at games being played at this quality .


:/ I remember when decisive wins by cheesy / baller strats (see boxer vs yellow bunker rushes) made people excited rather than say they were suffering. What happened. Why is everyone so jaded.


Back than we had boxer,nada,july,oov and now ........ I am going go take a long walk ...
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
KenNage
Profile Joined May 2009
Chile885 Posts
April 21 2012 05:46 GMT
#425
depressing games
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
April 21 2012 05:47 GMT
#426
On April 21 2012 14:45 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 14:41 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:40 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:39 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:38 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:37 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:35 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:34 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:32 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:30 Caihead wrote:
[quote]

I remember how everyone was saying how the last proleague finals was fantastic and intense and no one questioned rather SC2 was negatively affecting the teams, then now this interview comes out and everybody is jumping back on the bandwagon even though according to it the SC2 training was supposed to have been going on for a long time (dating before the proleague finals). Especially if you go by the fact that people said SKT is the team that most heavily invested in SC2 and they won the finals.


Interview stated that stx was the one who invested most of the time in sc2 before other team that's why their players were having difficulty adjusting back to bw .


Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic


By logic stx was doing poorly in proleague performance but that doesn't mean their player isn't good and won't be able to qualify for ODT .


That's such double standard logic, if their players are good they should be able to perform in proleague too.


So what's your problem man ?


What? My problem is with people who say reasons games are bad = SC2.


It's not making it easier when coaches were talking about their players playing sc2 all day long when they were suppose to put their time in broodwar.


It's more a fact that if you have this attitude then no amount of performance or justification is going to change your mind. We enjoyed games while milkis rambled about things and we didn't call every quick decisive game bad because SC2. Let's just enjoy what we can and not point fingers, please?


We enjoyed games whilst proleague gave the teams a reason to practice. With the end of the last bw only season it's little wonder the players for OSL are struggling to find practice partners or time themselves. I've enjoyed most of the bw up to this point but if you don't see the quality of play and preparation today as an indicator of the sc2 impact then you probably haven't watched enough bw.


Okay... show me a game were a zerg who isn't Soulkey held a bunker leap rush, or a game where a protoss held 2 hatch muta after failed 2 gate then. Are you dismissing bogus' and stork's micro in the games they won?
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
April 21 2012 05:47 GMT
#427
yes the games were defiitely not that great, but at least bogus and STORK made it.

how terrible would have it been for STORK to not make it to OSL...
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
April 21 2012 05:47 GMT
#428
On April 21 2012 14:46 doothegee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 14:45 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:42 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:41 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:40 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:39 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:38 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:37 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:35 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:34 Caihead wrote:
[quote]

Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic


By logic stx was doing poorly in proleague performance but that doesn't mean their player isn't good and won't be able to qualify for ODT .


That's such double standard logic, if their players are good they should be able to perform in proleague too.


So what's your problem man ?


What? My problem is with people who say reasons games are bad = SC2.


It's not making it easier when coaches were talking about their players playing sc2 all day long when they were suppose to put their time in broodwar.


It's more a fact that if you have this attitude then no amount of performance or justification is going to change your mind. We enjoyed games while milkis rambled about things and we didn't call every quick decisive game bad because SC2. Let's just enjoy what we can and not point fingers, please?


Look If I had a time machine I would gladly go back to 2008-2010 bw rather than to suffer at games being played at this quality .


:/ I remember when decisive wins by cheesy / baller strats (see boxer vs yellow bunker rushes) made people excited rather than say they were suffering. What happened. Why is everyone so jaded.

New innovative strategies in 2004 =/= players not practicing and using same builds in 2012 while playing like shit


Sorry what part of Bogus' play was shitty? His control was fine.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
April 21 2012 05:48 GMT
#429
On April 21 2012 14:45 nbaker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 14:40 Scarecrow wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:39 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:38 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:37 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:35 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:34 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:32 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:30 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:28 Ideas wrote:
well if this is an indication of what the quality of games will be like for the rest of the OSL then I probably won't even finish this OSL, let alone watch any of next season's Proleague :\

Oh god I really hope JD doesn't play as shitty as baby/killer


I remember how everyone was saying how the last proleague finals was fantastic and intense and no one questioned rather SC2 was negatively affecting the teams, then now this interview comes out and everybody is jumping back on the bandwagon even though according to it the SC2 training was supposed to have been going on for a long time (dating before the proleague finals). Especially if you go by the fact that people said SKT is the team that most heavily invested in SC2 and they won the finals.


Interview stated that stx was the one who invested most of the time in sc2 before other team that's why their players were having difficulty adjusting back to bw .


Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic


By logic stx was doing poorly in proleague performance but that doesn't mean their player isn't good and won't be able to qualify for ODT .


That's such double standard logic, if their players are good they should be able to perform in proleague too.


So what's your problem man ?


What? My problem is with people who say reasons games are bad = SC2.

SC2 is a factor, stork looks like he barely prepared. Bogus did the same strat twice and the two zergs were godawful


People have been cheesing since before SC2 was announced. People have also been cheesing in consecutive games since before SC2 was announced. Honestly, I want good games too, but people have to stop being so whiny and pessimistic about every single cheesy game.

I basically never whine about cheesy games, they're usually pretty entertaining. I don't even mind hydra busts. I loved Flash vs Bisu despite being a flash fan because it was high quality and well prepared. It's all about the quality of game and preparation. Today was just sloppy and half-ass with the losers rolling over.
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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 05:50:36
April 21 2012 05:50 GMT
#430
On April 21 2012 14:48 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 14:45 nbaker wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:40 Scarecrow wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:39 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:38 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:37 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:35 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:34 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:32 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:30 Caihead wrote:
[quote]

I remember how everyone was saying how the last proleague finals was fantastic and intense and no one questioned rather SC2 was negatively affecting the teams, then now this interview comes out and everybody is jumping back on the bandwagon even though according to it the SC2 training was supposed to have been going on for a long time (dating before the proleague finals). Especially if you go by the fact that people said SKT is the team that most heavily invested in SC2 and they won the finals.


Interview stated that stx was the one who invested most of the time in sc2 before other team that's why their players were having difficulty adjusting back to bw .


Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic


By logic stx was doing poorly in proleague performance but that doesn't mean their player isn't good and won't be able to qualify for ODT .


That's such double standard logic, if their players are good they should be able to perform in proleague too.


So what's your problem man ?


What? My problem is with people who say reasons games are bad = SC2.

SC2 is a factor, stork looks like he barely prepared. Bogus did the same strat twice and the two zergs were godawful


People have been cheesing since before SC2 was announced. People have also been cheesing in consecutive games since before SC2 was announced. Honestly, I want good games too, but people have to stop being so whiny and pessimistic about every single cheesy game.

I basically never whine about cheesy games, they're usually pretty entertaining. I don't even mind hydra busts. I loved Flash vs Bisu despite being a flash fan because it was high quality and well prepared. It's all about the quality of game and preparation. Today was just sloppy and half-ass with the losers rolling over.


Man even in 2008 msl qualifiers the games were much more well thought out and compared to the one sided build order win we had today.
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
April 21 2012 05:50 GMT
#431
On April 21 2012 14:48 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 14:45 nbaker wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:40 Scarecrow wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:39 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:38 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:37 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:35 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:34 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:32 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:30 Caihead wrote:
[quote]

I remember how everyone was saying how the last proleague finals was fantastic and intense and no one questioned rather SC2 was negatively affecting the teams, then now this interview comes out and everybody is jumping back on the bandwagon even though according to it the SC2 training was supposed to have been going on for a long time (dating before the proleague finals). Especially if you go by the fact that people said SKT is the team that most heavily invested in SC2 and they won the finals.


Interview stated that stx was the one who invested most of the time in sc2 before other team that's why their players were having difficulty adjusting back to bw .


Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic


By logic stx was doing poorly in proleague performance but that doesn't mean their player isn't good and won't be able to qualify for ODT .


That's such double standard logic, if their players are good they should be able to perform in proleague too.


So what's your problem man ?


What? My problem is with people who say reasons games are bad = SC2.

SC2 is a factor, stork looks like he barely prepared. Bogus did the same strat twice and the two zergs were godawful


People have been cheesing since before SC2 was announced. People have also been cheesing in consecutive games since before SC2 was announced. Honestly, I want good games too, but people have to stop being so whiny and pessimistic about every single cheesy game.

I basically never whine about cheesy games, they're usually pretty entertaining. I don't even mind hydra busts. I loved Flash vs Bisu despite being a flash fan because it was high quality and well prepared. It's all about the quality of game and preparation. Today was just sloppy and half-ass with the losers rolling over.


I don't think you complained when flash rolled over jaedong or soo or alone
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
structuralinertia
Profile Joined June 2009
Australia1426 Posts
April 21 2012 05:50 GMT
#432
On April 21 2012 14:47 phosphorylation wrote:
yes the games were defiitely not that great, but at least bogus and STORK made it.

how terrible would have it been for STORK to not make it to OSL...

agreed, it will definitely help make the Ro16 awesome with Stork + Bogus
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
April 21 2012 05:50 GMT
#433
It's funny people are pissed about cheesy players winning. Because cheese done today are easily stopped by safe play. Hero scouted well and defended Stork's cheese in game 1. Every other game the zergs played fairly greedy. And they lost.
Meh
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
April 21 2012 05:51 GMT
#434
On April 21 2012 14:50 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 14:48 Scarecrow wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:45 nbaker wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:40 Scarecrow wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:39 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:38 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:37 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:35 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:34 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:32 Sawamura wrote:
[quote]

Interview stated that stx was the one who invested most of the time in sc2 before other team that's why their players were having difficulty adjusting back to bw .


Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic


By logic stx was doing poorly in proleague performance but that doesn't mean their player isn't good and won't be able to qualify for ODT .


That's such double standard logic, if their players are good they should be able to perform in proleague too.


So what's your problem man ?


What? My problem is with people who say reasons games are bad = SC2.

SC2 is a factor, stork looks like he barely prepared. Bogus did the same strat twice and the two zergs were godawful


People have been cheesing since before SC2 was announced. People have also been cheesing in consecutive games since before SC2 was announced. Honestly, I want good games too, but people have to stop being so whiny and pessimistic about every single cheesy game.

I basically never whine about cheesy games, they're usually pretty entertaining. I don't even mind hydra busts. I loved Flash vs Bisu despite being a flash fan because it was high quality and well prepared. It's all about the quality of game and preparation. Today was just sloppy and half-ass with the losers rolling over.


Man even in 2008 msl qualifiers the games were much more well thought out and compared to the one sided build order win we had today.


I dont understand your statement, a strategy that's well thought out usually does lead to one sided build order wins, see S2's games vs KT in the winners league finals
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 05:56:10
April 21 2012 05:52 GMT
#435
On April 21 2012 14:47 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 14:45 Scarecrow wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:41 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:40 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:39 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:38 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:37 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:35 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:34 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:32 Sawamura wrote:
[quote]

Interview stated that stx was the one who invested most of the time in sc2 before other team that's why their players were having difficulty adjusting back to bw .


Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic


By logic stx was doing poorly in proleague performance but that doesn't mean their player isn't good and won't be able to qualify for ODT .


That's such double standard logic, if their players are good they should be able to perform in proleague too.


So what's your problem man ?


What? My problem is with people who say reasons games are bad = SC2.


It's not making it easier when coaches were talking about their players playing sc2 all day long when they were suppose to put their time in broodwar.


It's more a fact that if you have this attitude then no amount of performance or justification is going to change your mind. We enjoyed games while milkis rambled about things and we didn't call every quick decisive game bad because SC2. Let's just enjoy what we can and not point fingers, please?


We enjoyed games whilst proleague gave the teams a reason to practice. With the end of the last bw only season it's little wonder the players for OSL are struggling to find practice partners or time themselves. I've enjoyed most of the bw up to this point but if you don't see the quality of play and preparation today as an indicator of the sc2 impact then you probably haven't watched enough bw.


Okay... show me a game were a zerg who isn't Soulkey held a bunker leap rush, or a game where a protoss held 2 hatch muta after failed 2 gate then. Are you dismissing bogus' and stork's micro in the games they won?

If it can't be held we'd see it alot more, clearly it gets held often enough in practice. Stork losing that first corsair was unforgivably bad. He wasnt even watching it and it was sitting on creep. 2 gate pressure into expand can hold 2 hatch if you hold the nat (alot more doable with an extra sair). The build order choice in the first place was also horrible and lazy, in-base 2 gate is just not good in modern bw (forward 2-gate in the last set was better). 'Oh I haven't prepared much for this map and can't hold hydra busts so i'll just do my build from 4+ years ago'.
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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
April 21 2012 05:53 GMT
#436
On April 21 2012 14:51 Caihead wrote:
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On April 21 2012 14:50 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:48 Scarecrow wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:45 nbaker wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:40 Scarecrow wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:39 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:38 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:37 Caihead wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:35 Sawamura wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:34 Caihead wrote:
[quote]

Which is... why they have the most people who qualified into the Dual tournament? /logic


By logic stx was doing poorly in proleague performance but that doesn't mean their player isn't good and won't be able to qualify for ODT .


That's such double standard logic, if their players are good they should be able to perform in proleague too.


So what's your problem man ?


What? My problem is with people who say reasons games are bad = SC2.

SC2 is a factor, stork looks like he barely prepared. Bogus did the same strat twice and the two zergs were godawful


People have been cheesing since before SC2 was announced. People have also been cheesing in consecutive games since before SC2 was announced. Honestly, I want good games too, but people have to stop being so whiny and pessimistic about every single cheesy game.

I basically never whine about cheesy games, they're usually pretty entertaining. I don't even mind hydra busts. I loved Flash vs Bisu despite being a flash fan because it was high quality and well prepared. It's all about the quality of game and preparation. Today was just sloppy and half-ass with the losers rolling over.


Man even in 2008 msl qualifiers the games were much more well thought out and compared to the one sided build order win we had today.


I dont understand your statement, a strategy that's well thought out usually does lead to one sided build order wins, see S2's games vs KT in the winners league finals


I like to see players fighting for their life and even balancing out the imbalance that some races have at that certain timing that' why I started watching bw . Iris v Bisu Avalon MsL was good because of that despite Bisu having a huge amount of advantage by elevating his units into Iris main and yet Iris was able to defend it and still won the game .

I look for moments like that ...
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NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 05:56:25
April 21 2012 05:53 GMT
#437
Man, I was just trying to peek carefully in the "Recommended games" without being spoiled. I just wanted to see if the games were good today and I'll watch the vods when I have time, then what I saw was "Speedlots" and "Manlots" in the losers' match and final match recommendation polls respectively, so that means that the ONLY protoss lost game 2 and then won twice
-__________-

I guess I learned a lesson today that even the polls contain spoilers
"Start yo" -FlaSh
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
April 21 2012 05:57 GMT
#438
On April 21 2012 14:53 NicksonReyes wrote:
Man, I was just trying to peek carefully in the "Recommended games" without being spoiled. I just wanted to see if the games were good today and I'll watch the vods when I have time, then what I saw was "Speedlots" and "Manlots" in the losers' match and final match recommendation polls respectively, so that means that the ONLY protoss lost game 2 and then won twice
-__________-

I guess I learned a lesson today that even the polls contain spoilers

Meh. They shouldn't, but it's not much of a loss today. The games were all bad. Only thing that matters is who advanced. Whoooo Stork and Bogus :D
Writer:o
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
April 21 2012 05:58 GMT
#439
On April 21 2012 14:53 NicksonReyes wrote:
Man, I was just trying to peek carefully in the "Recommended games" without being spoiled. I just wanted to see if the games were good today and I'll watch the vods when I have time, then what I saw was "Speedlots" and "Manlots" in the losers' match and final match recommendation polls respectively, so that means that the ONLY protoss lost game 2 and then won twice
-__________-

I guess I learned a lesson today that even the polls contain spoilers

Maybe we were too eager with the unorthodox poll options today :p
(who can blame them after first three games though? Normal B teamer player would look amazing after that)
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2454 Posts
April 21 2012 06:03 GMT
#440
"I'm so mad I got to see some 2gate PvZ games"

-- Idiots who want to bitch about SC2
The original Bogus fan.
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