EPTim sooo hoping he will kick boxers ass
So1 OSL Semifinal #2 : iloveoov vs Anytime - Page 24
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chicken`
Germany3478 Posts
im sooo hoping he will kick boxers ass | ||
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Luhh
Sweden2974 Posts
On October 28 2005 13:29 chicken` wrote: anytime fighting ! im sooo hoping he will kick boxers ass It would be kind of cool if boxer gets to be the most champion and also one to take titles so far apart in time. But of course I will still root for anytime. Protoss fighting!  | ||
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PoP
France15446 Posts
On October 28 2005 13:22 Luhh wrote: When I heard of the match against JJu whom I like who is cocky as well but in a more cheeky way I lost a lot of respect for oov as a competetive gamer. He was trying to fuck around and make ghosts and try and "own" him in a cool way in a game he was clearly just about to win instead of just finishing the game right away. That imo is BM. Jju is known for doing lame BM announcements about how he was gonna kick out the whole T1 team of the last MSL after beating Oov. I have no idea how much serious he was when he said this but if he was, playing around with ghosts at the end of a game in which he was miles ahead is nothing in comparison, and a good little revenge. Jju not saying gg although he was losing so badly was probably too much for him. Or maybe I'm wrong and he just did that because he's cocky. We'll see if he does that vs other players. | ||
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Luhh
Sweden2974 Posts
On October 28 2005 13:38 PoP wrote: Jju is known for doing lame BM announcements about how he was gonna kick out the whole T1 team of the last MSL after beating Oov. I have no idea how much serious he was when he said this but if he was, playing around with ghosts at the end of a game in which he was miles ahead is nothing in comparison, and a good little revenge. Jju not saying gg although he was losing so badly was probably too much for him. Or maybe I'm wrong and he just did that because he's cocky. We'll see if he does that vs other players. Ahh. I see your point. You're right of course. I chose my words poorly. What I meant was that his attitude and cofidence showed in a bad way in the JJu game. It's not wrong to have a high opinion of oneself. In fact, it's usually a good thing. But what JJu said against taking out SKT1, I think it was more for show. I don't think even he believed it when he said it. Boy did that one backfire on him. | ||
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instantbunz
United States319 Posts
On October 28 2005 13:38 PoP wrote: Jju is known for doing lame BM announcements about how he was gonna kick out the whole T1 team of the last MSL after beating Oov. I have no idea how much serious he was when he said this but if he was, playing around with ghosts at the end of a game in which he was miles ahead is nothing in comparison, and a good little revenge. Jju not saying gg although he was losing so badly was probably too much for him. Or maybe I'm wrong and he just did that because he's cocky. We'll see if he does that vs other players. Actually, oov DID do that several times to a few other players. I can't remember all of them, but one was against Goodfriend on Nostalgia. It was perfectly clear that oov had won, and the commentators were ready to say "GG", as they kept on saying that it was 99% won. Oov then started just to fortify the choke and expanded/defended everywhere, making mass wraiths and tanks, and played around with him here and there. That was particularly famous, as people were mentioning that in the forums a while ago. On the other hand, Boxer vs Chojja: Boxer had faked Chojja out by making it look like he was going mechanic, on Luna. Boxer went bio instead, and Chojja wasted his upgrades on hydra range/speed. Chojja then had to make sunkens, and wasted more minerals there. Boxer was clearly in the lead. At one point in the game, Chojja said, "Battle?" meaning that Chojja was asking Boxer if he was making Battlecruisers, because he was so much in the lead. But Boxer didn't overkill. He just attacked with enough to win the game. | ||
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PoP
France15446 Posts
On October 28 2005 14:32 instantbunz wrote: Actually, oov DID do that several times to a few other players. I can't remember all of them, but one was against Goodfriend on Nostalgia. It was perfectly clear that oov had won, and the commentators were ready to say "GG", as they kept on saying that it was 99% won. Oov then started just to fortify the choke and expanded/defended everywhere, making mass wraiths and tanks, and played around with him here and there. That was particularly famous, as people were mentioning that in the forums a while ago. Doubt I've seen the game here as well, but it's basically the same: if GF had 99% lost, why didn't he concede? I don't see a problem with securing your win 100% instead of risking the remaining 1%. Oov is the kind of players who masses when his opponent lets him do so. Maybe he didn't know he was so ahead. Well, I'm just supposing here, but if you've got some link for the vod of this game, I'd be glad to see it and give a more objective input. Anyway, I've seen lots of games where the guy leading just secures instead of finishing, it's pretty common and I doubt you can say it's similar to what he did vs Jju. | ||
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Guybrush
Spain4744 Posts
 There has been ALOT of similar situations like Elky nuking Gundam and Boxer nuking Elky at WCG. JJu getting mindcontroled by Kingdom, Rock building himself up with Terran vs Fofy on Luna, Chojja infesting CCs, and probably ALOT more Im forgetting. | ||
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instantbunz
United States319 Posts
On October 28 2005 15:14 PoP wrote: Doubt I've seen the game here as well, but it's basically the same: if GF had 99% lost, why didn't he concede? I don't see a problem with securing your win 100% instead of risking the remaining 1%. Oov is the kind of players who masses when his opponent lets him do so. Maybe he didn't know he was so ahead. Well, I'm just supposing here, but if you've got some link for the vod of this game, I'd be glad to see it and give a more objective input. Anyway, I've seen lots of games where the guy leading just secures instead of finishing, it's pretty common and I doubt you can say it's similar to what he did vs Jju. There's a difference between securing the game and toying with the opponent. =p The game with oov and Goodfriend is the Gillette Starleague. Btw, there have been cases where progamers other than oov have toyed with the opponent also (not just securing the win). | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
I laughed at the point where Pop commented if the game was 99% lost, why didnt GF leave? Instantbunz I'm afraid I cant agree with you, I've never seen anything that would make oov seem bm. One or two outlier incidents aren't enough to label someone. If anything, the way oov always mentions boxer in his interviews, and the respect he shows him, makes him seem an essentially gm person. | ||
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iamke55
United States2806 Posts
On October 28 2005 05:02 geod wrote: Everyone hardly stand a chance against iloveovv if playing standard - macro game . Anytime knows it very well. Vs Boxer, well it's completely another story... Funny, last year people were saying oov was "uncheesable". | ||
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iNsaNe-
Finland5201 Posts
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geod
Vietnam450 Posts
On October 28 2005 17:05 iamke55 wrote: Funny, last year people were saying oov was "uncheesable". Why "uncheesable" because people tended to chease him alot but failed... | ||
mensrea
Canada5062 Posts
2. Anytime CRUSHED oov in this one. I've never seen oov so deflated after a loss. He was in utter shock afterwards. His main had been razed so completely and overwhelmingly in games 1 and 4 that he didn't even attempt to do a "last stand" like he (and Boxer) usually does. Not that he had any units left, mind you. 3. That 3 shuttle 3 reaver 3 goon drop by Anytime was pure art. Why was oov caught so flat-footed? Why was oov expanding instead of producing defensive units? Was he just playing poorly? No. oov has probably one of the toughest defensive shells to crack in all of SC. Maybe even better than Boxer's. He was playing like iloveoov - he knew it would be a shuttle drop of mixed units backed by reavers (he had scv/wraith scouting done). It's just that he thought he could stop it - just like he stops 99% of such tactics against other players. But, Anytime isn't just another player. Fuck, the guy isn't even mortal. He's the "God of Death", according to the OGN commentators. Still don't believe me? Still think Anytime just got "lucky"? Then how do you explain this comment by Anytime just before the match: Anytime: "If I win any one of the first three games, then I've won the whole match. I won't lose games 4 and 5, if we get to them." "I won't lose games 4 and 5". That's right. The guy knew exactly how he was going to fuck over oov and he'd already determined that his strats for the last two games were virtually without counter. The God of Death indeed. It's going to be an amazing final. But, my money's on Anytime. | ||
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PoP
France15446 Posts
On October 29 2005 04:24 mensrea wrote: 1. People should stop using the word "luck". At this level of play, you make your own luck. Probably. 2. Anytime CRUSHED oov in this one. I've never seen oov so deflated after a loss. He was in utter shock afterwards. His main had been razed so completely and overwhelmingly in games 1 and 4 that he didn't even attempt to do a "last stand" like he (and Boxer) usually does. Not that he had any units left, mind you. Huuh, Oov usually doing a "last stand"? Not really, I'd even say it's the total opposite. Oov is probably tapping out earlier than *any* other pro, and he's known for that. Nothing special yesterday. 3. That 3 shuttle 3 reaver 3 goon drop by Anytime was pure art. Why was oov caught so flat-footed? Why was oov expanding instead of producing defensive units? Was he just playing poorly? No. I usually agree with you, but not at all here. Going double fast expo although he saw Anytime wasn't expanding himself was the shittiest decision possible, honestly. 3-4 more goliaths and it's another story. oov has probably one of the toughest defensive shells to crack in all of SC. Maybe even better than Boxer's. He was playing like iloveoov - he knew it would be a shuttle drop of mixed units backed by reavers (he had scv/wraith scouting done). I don't recall the game precisely but I think he did NOT scout with his wraith, he was about to but backed away as soon as a goon hit the wraith. It's just that he thought he could stop it - just like he stops 99% of such tactics against other players. He thought he could stop 3 reavers and 3 goons with like 6 goliaths? Yeah sure... :/ But, Anytime isn't just another player. Fuck, the guy isn't even mortal. He's the "God of Death", according to the OGN commentators. Cool nickname, but I could have beat Oov with this drop. He didn't even have to micro the reavers. Don't get me wrong, Anytime played great the whole series. But he didn't beat the best Oov. Far from that. Still don't believe me? Still think Anytime just got "lucky"? Then how do you explain this comment by Anytime just before the match: Anytime: "If I win any one of the first three games, then I've won the whole match. I won't lose games 4 and 5, if we get to them." Nice confidence, indeed. Maybe Oov said the same. Cool. "I won't lose games 4 and 5". That's right. The guy knew exactly how he was going to fuck over oov and he'd already determined that his strats for the last two games were virtually without counter. The God of Death indeed. It's funny Oov is considered cocky, cause such comments do sound way more arrogant than what Oov has ever said. I mean, either he really believed in it and then it's indeed plain arrogant, or he just said that for show (or to scare Oov or something), and then you can't base your arguments on it. | ||
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Wuselmops
Germany346 Posts
lol, reminds me of this: THE LEGEND OF PAI MEI David Carradine & Uma Thurman David Carradine: Once upon a time in China Some believe around the year, one-double knot-three. Head priest of The White Lotus Clan Pai Mei Was walking down the road Contemplating whatever a man with Pai Mei's infinite power would contemplate Which is another way of saying, who knows. When, a Shaolin monk appeared on the road traveling in the opposite direction. As the monk and the priest crossed paths... Pai Mei in a practically unfathomable display of generosity Gave the monk the slightest of nods. The nod, was not returned. Now was it the intention of the Shaolin monk to insult Pai Mei ? Or, did he just fail to see the generous social gesture? The motives of the monk, remain unknown. What is known, were the consequences. The next morning Pai Mei appeared at the Shaolin Temple, And demanded that the temple's head Abbot offer Pai Mei his neck to repay the insult. The Abbot, at first, tried to console Pai Mei, only to find, Pai Mei was inconsolable. So began, the massacre of the Shaolin Temple, And all sixty of the monks inside, At the fists of the White Lotus. And so began, the legend of Pai Mei's Five-Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique. Uma Thurman : And what praytell Is a five-point palm Exploding heart technique? | ||
Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
On October 29 2005 05:11 PoP wrote: Huuh, Oov usually doing a "last stand"? Not really, I'd even say it's the total opposite. Oov is probably tapping out earlier than *any* other pro, and he's known for that. Nothing special yesterday. I'm with PoP here. I even recall an interview of oov in which he said that he got criticized by Boxer for his tendency to leave games too early. I usually agree with you, but not at all here. Going double fast expo although he saw Anytime wasn't expanding himself was the shittiest decision possible, honestly. 3-4 more goliaths and it's another story. Yeah, he definitely should not have had double expanded, _especially_ considering that Anytime had not even started _any_ expansion yet. He would have been in a far better position had he built 4 Gols instead of a 3rd CC. Also he had 1 shuttle with 4 Gols @ Anytime's mineral only, where he killed a pylon, which he had to fly back (too late obviously). | ||
Mynock
4492 Posts
On October 29 2005 04:24 mensrea wrote: 1. People should stop using the word "luck". At this level of play, you make your own luck. 2. Anytime CRUSHED oov in this one. I've never seen oov so deflated after a loss. He was in utter shock afterwards. His main had been razed so completely and overwhelmingly in games 1 and 4 that he didn't even attempt to do a "last stand" like he (and Boxer) usually does. Not that he had any units left, mind you. 3. That 3 shuttle 3 reaver 3 goon drop by Anytime was pure art. Why was oov caught so flat-footed? Why was oov expanding instead of producing defensive units? Was he just playing poorly? No. oov has probably one of the toughest defensive shells to crack in all of SC. Maybe even better than Boxer's. He was playing like iloveoov - he knew it would be a shuttle drop of mixed units backed by reavers (he had scv/wraith scouting done). It's just that he thought he could stop it - just like he stops 99% of such tactics against other players. But, Anytime isn't just another player. Fuck, the guy isn't even mortal. He's the "God of Death", according to the OGN commentators. Still don't believe me? Still think Anytime just got "lucky"? Then how do you explain this comment by Anytime just before the match: Anytime: "If I win any one of the first three games, then I've won the whole match. I won't lose games 4 and 5, if we get to them." "I won't lose games 4 and 5". That's right. The guy knew exactly how he was going to fuck over oov and he'd already determined that his strats for the last two games were virtually without counter. The God of Death indeed. It's going to be an amazing final. But, my money's on Anytime. Ah, the world would stop revolving if rea didn't have a new P to adore after rA's disappearance from the top ranks ^^ But truth be told, I have to agree that Anytime was amazing, and I think one can see it in the guy's eyes - the determination of a champ and the nervousness of a newcomer - as well as in his gameplay. Still, I'm also more inclined to believe that Anytime's statements about his tactics for games 4 and 5 were more a mandatory statement of confidence than anything else. IIRC oov did not scout Anytime's main at all with that wraith of his, and never made any attempts at a shuttle-hunt either, which I couldn't understand at that time like... at all, but then again he's oov... Not sure how things might or might not fare vs BoxeR now, but I recon the kind of experience and natural-born cheesiness that the Emperor is in possession of *will* provide Anytime a reason or two to spend some serious thinking on. Anyways seems like one interesting final to come - all for our common benefit, too! -Mynock | ||
Xeofreestyler
Belgium6777 Posts
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exkgb
United States504 Posts
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