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doubleupgradeobbies!
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia1361 Posts
April 08 2012 06:15 GMT
#341
hype hype hype!
MSL, 2003-2011, RIP. OSL, 2000-2012, RIP. Proleague, 2003-2012, RIP. And then there was none... Even good things must come to an end.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
April 08 2012 06:16 GMT
#342
lmao, OGN just showed some footage of the SF teams in their hostels, so funny...
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NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 06:28:21
April 08 2012 06:18 GMT
#343
On April 08 2012 15:04 Release wrote:
CJ 1-0 SKT i nthe SF2 finals.
Hope this demoralizes SKT.

1-6 would surely be demoralizing. I hope they'll win the next set though, the third set is always exciting.
But if they don't, Dual Silvers isn't bad at all.
Edit: Ahh... I thought this is Bo3.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
April 08 2012 06:20 GMT
#344
Can anyone post a link for the SF stream?
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
April 08 2012 06:22 GMT
#345
On April 08 2012 15:20 pred470r wrote:
Can anyone post a link for the SF stream?

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/nanashin

or EsportsTV youtube stream also works.
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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 06:32:41
April 08 2012 06:26 GMT
#346
On April 08 2012 15:18 NicksonReyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 15:04 Release wrote:
CJ 1-0 SKT i nthe SF2 finals.
Hope this demoralizes SKT.

1-6 would surely be demoralizing. I hope they'll win the next set though, the third set is always exciting.
But if they don't, Dual Silvers isn't bad at all.

It's Bo5, so this might take awhile.


Edit:
So many technical problems during the SF2 final, this is the second time that a player got disconnected.
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SCnai
Profile Joined February 2010
322 Posts
April 08 2012 06:32 GMT
#347
Friends, I won't be able to watch live due to a family meeting (Easter). GL HF watching! And, please, let someone add the VODs to the Small Vods Thread as soon as possible. Gogogogo SKT!
The legend of the fall, which everyone thought was only a dream, is being revived! Carriers, the symbol of Protoss, the hope of a million Protoss fans, are reviving the legend!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 08 2012 06:33 GMT
#348
On April 08 2012 15:26 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 15:18 NicksonReyes wrote:
On April 08 2012 15:04 Release wrote:
CJ 1-0 SKT i nthe SF2 finals.
Hope this demoralizes SKT.

1-6 would surely be demoralizing. I hope they'll win the next set though, the third set is always exciting.
But if they don't, Dual Silvers isn't bad at all.

It's Bo5, so this might take awhile.


Edit:
So many technical problems during the SF2 final, this is the second time that a player got disconnected.


Reminds me of another team league final I watched tonight.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
April 08 2012 06:34 GMT
#349
On April 08 2012 15:33 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 15:26 Ryo wrote:
On April 08 2012 15:18 NicksonReyes wrote:
On April 08 2012 15:04 Release wrote:
CJ 1-0 SKT i nthe SF2 finals.
Hope this demoralizes SKT.

1-6 would surely be demoralizing. I hope they'll win the next set though, the third set is always exciting.
But if they don't, Dual Silvers isn't bad at all.

It's Bo5, so this might take awhile.


Edit:
So many technical problems during the SF2 final, this is the second time that a player got disconnected.


Reminds me of another team league final I watched tonight.

lol

I heard this is the first time it's happened in SF2 though.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
pschiu
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore410 Posts
April 08 2012 06:34 GMT
#350
On April 08 2012 15:26 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 15:18 NicksonReyes wrote:
On April 08 2012 15:04 Release wrote:
CJ 1-0 SKT i nthe SF2 finals.
Hope this demoralizes SKT.

1-6 would surely be demoralizing. I hope they'll win the next set though, the third set is always exciting.
But if they don't, Dual Silvers isn't bad at all.

It's Bo5, so this might take awhile.

I'm curious about the balance of these maps. It seems that one side (usually the blue side) has a huge advantage. This wouldn't be a problem since they switch sides after 5 shootouts... except when there is a tiebreaker. So it would seem one team would have some X% advantage over the other based purely on which side they started at.

I suppose they would then swap starting-sides in the next map, but then the value of X would also be different for different maps. And eventually with odd number of maps there is still gonna be a tiebreaker which may give one team another advantage.

So who chooses the map order and how much did they consider all of these factors?
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
April 08 2012 06:38 GMT
#351
Got disconnected again?
"Start yo" -FlaSh
hydrogg
Profile Joined September 2011
United States377 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 06:42:41
April 08 2012 06:42 GMT
#352
On April 08 2012 15:34 pschiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 15:26 Ryo wrote:
On April 08 2012 15:18 NicksonReyes wrote:
On April 08 2012 15:04 Release wrote:
CJ 1-0 SKT i nthe SF2 finals.
Hope this demoralizes SKT.

1-6 would surely be demoralizing. I hope they'll win the next set though, the third set is always exciting.
But if they don't, Dual Silvers isn't bad at all.

It's Bo5, so this might take awhile.

I'm curious about the balance of these maps. It seems that one side (usually the blue side) has a huge advantage. This wouldn't be a problem since they switch sides after 5 shootouts... except when there is a tiebreaker. So it would seem one team would have some X% advantage over the other based purely on which side they started at.

I suppose they would then swap starting-sides in the next map, but then the value of X would also be different for different maps. And eventually with odd number of maps there is still gonna be a tiebreaker which may give one team another advantage.

So who chooses the map order and how much did they consider all of these factors?


not sure how it is in SF2 but in counter strike tiebreakers are 3 rounds on each side, so both teams has the same amount of rounds on each side. If it is a tie again, there is another tiebreaker. The finals for CS at copenhagen games today had 4 tiebreakers
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
April 08 2012 06:42 GMT
#353
On April 08 2012 15:34 pschiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 15:26 Ryo wrote:
On April 08 2012 15:18 NicksonReyes wrote:
On April 08 2012 15:04 Release wrote:
CJ 1-0 SKT i nthe SF2 finals.
Hope this demoralizes SKT.

1-6 would surely be demoralizing. I hope they'll win the next set though, the third set is always exciting.
But if they don't, Dual Silvers isn't bad at all.

It's Bo5, so this might take awhile.

I'm curious about the balance of these maps. It seems that one side (usually the blue side) has a huge advantage. This wouldn't be a problem since they switch sides after 5 shootouts... except when there is a tiebreaker. So it would seem one team would have some X% advantage over the other based purely on which side they started at.

I suppose they would then swap starting-sides in the next map, but then the value of X would also be different for different maps. And eventually with odd number of maps there is still gonna be a tiebreaker which may give one team another advantage.

So who chooses the map order and how much did they consider all of these factors?

I tried to find the news bulletin on DES about the map order but DES search function not available.

Very disappointing for players and fans, all these disconnections. I hope there are no technical problems for the SC final.
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George_the_man
Profile Joined May 2011
796 Posts
April 08 2012 06:43 GMT
#354
damn i woke up too early!! still over 2 hours to go , thanks for the link ill watch that SF2 whatever it is to kill time
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 08 2012 06:45 GMT
#355
On April 08 2012 15:42 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 15:34 pschiu wrote:
On April 08 2012 15:26 Ryo wrote:
On April 08 2012 15:18 NicksonReyes wrote:
On April 08 2012 15:04 Release wrote:
CJ 1-0 SKT i nthe SF2 finals.
Hope this demoralizes SKT.

1-6 would surely be demoralizing. I hope they'll win the next set though, the third set is always exciting.
But if they don't, Dual Silvers isn't bad at all.

It's Bo5, so this might take awhile.

I'm curious about the balance of these maps. It seems that one side (usually the blue side) has a huge advantage. This wouldn't be a problem since they switch sides after 5 shootouts... except when there is a tiebreaker. So it would seem one team would have some X% advantage over the other based purely on which side they started at.

I suppose they would then swap starting-sides in the next map, but then the value of X would also be different for different maps. And eventually with odd number of maps there is still gonna be a tiebreaker which may give one team another advantage.

So who chooses the map order and how much did they consider all of these factors?

I tried to find the news bulletin on DES about the map order but DES search function not available.

Very disappointing for players and fans, all these disconnections. I hope there are no technical problems for the SC final.


If there are technical problems for the SC final too I think we can claim some sort of esports conspiracy going on tonight.
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
April 08 2012 06:46 GMT
#356
On April 08 2012 15:42 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 15:34 pschiu wrote:
On April 08 2012 15:26 Ryo wrote:
On April 08 2012 15:18 NicksonReyes wrote:
On April 08 2012 15:04 Release wrote:
CJ 1-0 SKT i nthe SF2 finals.
Hope this demoralizes SKT.

1-6 would surely be demoralizing. I hope they'll win the next set though, the third set is always exciting.
But if they don't, Dual Silvers isn't bad at all.

It's Bo5, so this might take awhile.

I'm curious about the balance of these maps. It seems that one side (usually the blue side) has a huge advantage. This wouldn't be a problem since they switch sides after 5 shootouts... except when there is a tiebreaker. So it would seem one team would have some X% advantage over the other based purely on which side they started at.

I suppose they would then swap starting-sides in the next map, but then the value of X would also be different for different maps. And eventually with odd number of maps there is still gonna be a tiebreaker which may give one team another advantage.

So who chooses the map order and how much did they consider all of these factors?

I tried to find the news bulletin on DES about the map order but DES search function not available.

Very disappointing for players and fans, all these disconnections. I hope there are no technical problems for the SC final.

Lol what if there'll be a power outage during the Ace match, and Kespa just gave the win to the one with the advantage.

Kespa Fighting! Please make this Finals perfect.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 06:48:22
April 08 2012 06:47 GMT
#357
On April 08 2012 15:45 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 15:42 Ryo wrote:
On April 08 2012 15:34 pschiu wrote:
On April 08 2012 15:26 Ryo wrote:
On April 08 2012 15:18 NicksonReyes wrote:
On April 08 2012 15:04 Release wrote:
CJ 1-0 SKT i nthe SF2 finals.
Hope this demoralizes SKT.

1-6 would surely be demoralizing. I hope they'll win the next set though, the third set is always exciting.
But if they don't, Dual Silvers isn't bad at all.

It's Bo5, so this might take awhile.

I'm curious about the balance of these maps. It seems that one side (usually the blue side) has a huge advantage. This wouldn't be a problem since they switch sides after 5 shootouts... except when there is a tiebreaker. So it would seem one team would have some X% advantage over the other based purely on which side they started at.

I suppose they would then swap starting-sides in the next map, but then the value of X would also be different for different maps. And eventually with odd number of maps there is still gonna be a tiebreaker which may give one team another advantage.

So who chooses the map order and how much did they consider all of these factors?

I tried to find the news bulletin on DES about the map order but DES search function not available.

Very disappointing for players and fans, all these disconnections. I hope there are no technical problems for the SC final.


If there are technical problems for the SC final too I think we can claim some sort of esports conspiracy going on tonight.

The T1 SF2 team is probably thinking about that now, since they've been most affected by these problems. T1 coach looks pissed off.

Edit:
Not Kespa's fault though, OGN is responsible for setting up the equipment.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
pschiu
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore410 Posts
April 08 2012 06:50 GMT
#358
On April 08 2012 15:42 hydrogg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 15:34 pschiu wrote:
On April 08 2012 15:26 Ryo wrote:
On April 08 2012 15:18 NicksonReyes wrote:
On April 08 2012 15:04 Release wrote:
CJ 1-0 SKT i nthe SF2 finals.
Hope this demoralizes SKT.

1-6 would surely be demoralizing. I hope they'll win the next set though, the third set is always exciting.
But if they don't, Dual Silvers isn't bad at all.

It's Bo5, so this might take awhile.

I'm curious about the balance of these maps. It seems that one side (usually the blue side) has a huge advantage. This wouldn't be a problem since they switch sides after 5 shootouts... except when there is a tiebreaker. So it would seem one team would have some X% advantage over the other based purely on which side they started at.

I suppose they would then swap starting-sides in the next map, but then the value of X would also be different for different maps. And eventually with odd number of maps there is still gonna be a tiebreaker which may give one team another advantage.

So who chooses the map order and how much did they consider all of these factors?


not sure how it is in SF2 but in counter strike tiebreakers are 3 rounds on each side, so both teams has the same amount of rounds on each side. If it is a tie again, there is another tiebreaker. The finals for CS at copenhagen games today had 4 tiebreakers

I watched some previous matches, including the (semis?) CJ vs KT. It seems tiebreakers are simply just one more round/shootout. So in this case it seems one team really has a huge advantage.

Although I'm also perplexed, cos depending on which two teams are playing, the same map could sometimes be a 5-0 for the blue side (whichever of the two teams are playing that side atm) and for another two teams it could become a more even 3-2 for the blue side (again for both teams playing that side).

Tried to find some thread on TL that discusses this (are there timing attacks, gambits, different strats/gun combis that counter each other?) but couldn't find any.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 06:52:59
April 08 2012 06:52 GMT
#359
On April 08 2012 15:50 pschiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 15:42 hydrogg wrote:
On April 08 2012 15:34 pschiu wrote:
On April 08 2012 15:26 Ryo wrote:
On April 08 2012 15:18 NicksonReyes wrote:
On April 08 2012 15:04 Release wrote:
CJ 1-0 SKT i nthe SF2 finals.
Hope this demoralizes SKT.

1-6 would surely be demoralizing. I hope they'll win the next set though, the third set is always exciting.
But if they don't, Dual Silvers isn't bad at all.

It's Bo5, so this might take awhile.

I'm curious about the balance of these maps. It seems that one side (usually the blue side) has a huge advantage. This wouldn't be a problem since they switch sides after 5 shootouts... except when there is a tiebreaker. So it would seem one team would have some X% advantage over the other based purely on which side they started at.

I suppose they would then swap starting-sides in the next map, but then the value of X would also be different for different maps. And eventually with odd number of maps there is still gonna be a tiebreaker which may give one team another advantage.

So who chooses the map order and how much did they consider all of these factors?


not sure how it is in SF2 but in counter strike tiebreakers are 3 rounds on each side, so both teams has the same amount of rounds on each side. If it is a tie again, there is another tiebreaker. The finals for CS at copenhagen games today had 4 tiebreakers

I watched some previous matches, including the (semis?) CJ vs KT. It seems tiebreakers are simply just one more round/shootout. So in this case it seems one team really has a huge advantage.

Although I'm also perplexed, cos depending on which two teams are playing, the same map could sometimes be a 5-0 for the blue side (whichever of the two teams are playing that side atm) and for another two teams it could become a more even 3-2 for the blue side (again for both teams playing that side).

Tried to find some thread on TL that discusses this (are there timing attacks, gambits, different strats/gun combis that counter each other?) but couldn't find any.

Each round is completely independent from the previous, so an advantage on one side is, well..., just that: an advantage.
In CS, they would do the 3 round, switch, 3 round thing. In SF1, i believe they played another match on the map with a lower round count. However, i'm not sure about SF1 since Baezzi's account got deleted.
☺
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51636 Posts
April 08 2012 06:55 GMT
#360
it seems like I may have a chance of watching....come on luck....
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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