[SPL] Grand Final: SK Telecom T1 vs KT Rolster - Page 18

On April 08 2012 15:04 Release wrote:
CJ 1-0 SKT i nthe SF2 finals.
Hope this demoralizes SKT.

On April 08 2012 15:20 pred470r wrote:
Can anyone post a link for the SF stream?

On April 08 2012 15:18 NicksonReyes wrote:

1-6 would surely be demoralizing. I hope they'll win the next set though, the third set is always exciting.
But if they don't, Dual Silvers isn't bad at all.

On April 08 2012 15:26 Ryo wrote:

It's Bo5, so this might take awhile.


Edit:
So many technical problems during the SF2 final, this is the second time that a player got disconnected.

On April 08 2012 15:33 Dodgin wrote:


Reminds me of another team league final I watched tonight.

On April 08 2012 15:26 Ryo wrote:

It's Bo5, so this might take awhile.

On April 08 2012 15:34 pschiu wrote:

I'm curious about the balance of these maps. It seems that one side (usually the blue side) has a huge advantage. This wouldn't be a problem since they switch sides after 5 shootouts... except when there is a tiebreaker. So it would seem one team would have some X% advantage over the other based purely on which side they started at.

I suppose they would then swap starting-sides in the next map, but then the value of X would also be different for different maps. And eventually with odd number of maps there is still gonna be a tiebreaker which may give one team another advantage.

So who chooses the map order and how much did they consider all of these factors?

On April 08 2012 15:34 pschiu wrote:

I'm curious about the balance of these maps. It seems that one side (usually the blue side) has a huge advantage. This wouldn't be a problem since they switch sides after 5 shootouts... except when there is a tiebreaker. So it would seem one team would have some X% advantage over the other based purely on which side they started at.

I suppose they would then swap starting-sides in the next map, but then the value of X would also be different for different maps. And eventually with odd number of maps there is still gonna be a tiebreaker which may give one team another advantage.

So who chooses the map order and how much did they consider all of these factors?

On April 08 2012 15:42 Ryo wrote:

I tried to find the news bulletin on DES about the map order but DES search function not available.

Very disappointing for players and fans, all these disconnections. I hope there are no technical problems for the SC final.

On April 08 2012 15:42 Ryo wrote:

I tried to find the news bulletin on DES about the map order but DES search function not available.

Very disappointing for players and fans, all these disconnections. I hope there are no technical problems for the SC final.

On April 08 2012 15:45 Dodgin wrote:


If there are technical problems for the SC final too I think we can claim some sort of esports conspiracy going on tonight.

On April 08 2012 15:42 hydrogg wrote:


not sure how it is in SF2 but in counter strike tiebreakers are 3 rounds on each side, so both teams has the same amount of rounds on each side. If it is a tie again, there is another tiebreaker. The finals for CS at copenhagen games today had 4 tiebreakers

On April 08 2012 15:50 pschiu wrote:

I watched some previous matches, including the (semis?) CJ vs KT. It seems tiebreakers are simply just one more round/shootout. So in this case it seems one team really has a huge advantage.

Although I'm also perplexed, cos depending on which two teams are playing, the same map could sometimes be a 5-0 for the blue side (whichever of the two teams are playing that side atm) and for another two teams it could become a more even 3-2 for the blue side (again for both teams playing that side).

Tried to find some thread on TL that discusses this (are there timing attacks, gambits, different strats/gun combis that counter each other?) but couldn't find any.