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HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
March 25 2012 05:36 GMT
#1581
Bah, overpool vs 12 hatch... cross position...
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
nok.jp
Profile Joined August 2009
Japan248 Posts
March 25 2012 05:36 GMT
#1582
so nervous my heart is fluttering as hell
( ゚∀゚)o彡°ビョング!ビョング! A writer @ sc-times.net
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
March 25 2012 05:36 GMT
#1583
bo advantage to hoejja..cross positions
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
March 25 2012 05:36 GMT
#1584
On March 25 2012 14:34 FuRong wrote:
Rofl at the SKT fans who are now cheering for Shine after years of pouring hate upon him. Never thought it would come down to this, eh?


Oh actually it's more because I'd really want to see an ace match, and maybe a day 3.

SKT getting a chance to take their revenge in finals isn't bad at all.
ॐ
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
March 25 2012 05:36 GMT
#1585
On March 25 2012 14:28 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 14:27 Hier wrote:
On March 25 2012 14:20 casualman wrote:
On March 25 2012 14:17 Hier wrote:
On March 25 2012 14:11 casualman wrote:
On March 25 2012 14:10 Hier wrote:
On March 25 2012 14:06 casualman wrote:
On March 25 2012 14:04 Hier wrote:
Ok.
I don't get it. What's with the protoss overextending themselves with expansions in PvT this season? Is there really a reason to have 8 bases to terran's 3? This game was almost a replay of Stork vs Fantasy earlier this season. This is like the carrier syndrome of 2010. What a disappointment.

The point is if your build allows for a terran to take a 3rd at a fast timing the max push always favors terran. So protoss has to wither down the ball by throwing waves of units at it. Or protoss can try to break terran by throwing waves of units at it. Either way, to do that you need good eco

In theory. I never see that actually working. Waste of resources, lack if tech, lack of harass, nothing but a bunch of expansions.

Your eco is spread out so terran can't kill it fast enough with the remnants of the army that remains.
Of course, it relies on the protoss trading decently with the terran in the first battle, and having some bank. Jangbi engaged terribly and Flash pushed early enough and did enough harass to negate some of Jangbi's eco.

That entire strategy relies on terran killing you. Do you understand what I'm getting at?


The terran army can't kill you fast enough because you're everywhere. If he doesn't manage his army correctly, you'll overwhelm his push and you will be even or ahead on bases. Then taking and defending expansions becomes difficult for terran after the push. Think of the protoss like a (greek mythology) hydra at this point: terran has to cut off all the heads at once or he's in trouble.

That doesn't make sense. If a protoss "has" to have a 4:1 base ratio against terran just to survive, there is nothing stopping terran from taking 1 more base while the protoss rebuilds his nexuses, and more importantly his infrastructure. If resources and supply weren't being spend on having double the worker count as terran, maybe protoss wouldn't have to rely on having a million bases to survive.


Have you looked at the map. Taking that extra base means half your army has to camp there to keep it from being harassed. Terran has no viable harassment options against late game toss, late game toss has multiple viable harassment options.

After a protoss barely survives the destruction of all his bases, he really cannot afford to go and immediately harass. Otherwise it would turn into an all in. Meanwhile, terran mines everything up while he replenishes his tank count.
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-25 05:38:16
March 25 2012 05:37 GMT
#1586
On March 25 2012 14:36 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 14:33 corumjhaelen wrote:
On March 25 2012 14:28 StarStruck wrote:
On March 25 2012 14:28 o[twist] wrote:
On March 25 2012 14:27 StarStruck wrote:
On March 25 2012 14:23 QuothTheRaven wrote:
On March 25 2012 14:21 o[twist] wrote:
On March 25 2012 14:20 StarStruck wrote:
On March 25 2012 14:20 o[twist] wrote:
what a bad game lol


Indeed. We only got one good game thus far. S:


that's not true. most of the games today have been really good

BW fans are extremely determined to call every game a bad game and blame the loser for showing exceptionally poor play, no matter how good the game may have been or how well the winner played.


Not true. I give credit where credit is due. Jangbi got steamrolled regardless of how many bases he took early. It looked like it was going to be a good game but it failed to deliver. Jangbi didn't get one good engagement. As soon as his supply took a hit south. He never recovered and couldn't do shit.

Do I care explain how TurN had absolutely no idea of what he was doing?

He played incredibly sloppy


sloppy play doesn't make a game bad. nor does one-sided-ness


sure it does, or else where is the suspense when a player doesn't manage to do shit all game?

Really man, come on now.

I'd rather rewatch Flash 3-0ing Jaedong 3-0 than Fanatsy vs Calm semis which still make me want to open my veins. Well, let's say it's because I'm a Flash fanboy, I'd rather rewatch Bisu vs sAviOr, and I'm a a sAviOr fan. Or Stork vs soO (or s2, not sure).
Everything else being equal, one sidedness is a bad thing. But there are excellent one sided games, and awful back and forth ones.


That's very true about awful back-and-forth games. The thing is we crave suspense. If there is no suspense. It's sort of a dead game to me. Action's control and play was great, don't get me wrong but TurN's control was equally dreadful and to be frank he did look like a headless chicken in not knowing what to do.

Even if the game is one sided it does not mean it does not have suspens, because you won't know it's one sided before it's over (I'm not talking about bo wins).
Plus there are other thing than suspens when watching bw, thank god.
Edit : just go rewatch Stork vs Hiya.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
[V]
Profile Joined November 2011
United States905 Posts
March 25 2012 05:37 GMT
#1587
Shine going for the kill
Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
March 25 2012 05:37 GMT
#1588
Welp, Hoejja's nat finishes, he's opting for lair now too, 6 lings come to his nat, his 6 lings come out unbalanced, 1 dies for nothits to the back nat, but he gets a better arc - retreast
2 lings attacking Hoejja's nat, 2 new lings there win

Shine has ling speed but his lings get surrounded and lose anyways
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
March 25 2012 05:37 GMT
#1589
And Hoejja defends!!!!
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
March 25 2012 05:37 GMT
#1590
Hoejja held that sooo well
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
March 25 2012 05:37 GMT
#1591
omg shine..wtf
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
March 25 2012 05:37 GMT
#1592
shine royally screwed now.

has to do some ninja to pull thru from this
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[V]
Profile Joined November 2011
United States905 Posts
March 25 2012 05:38 GMT
#1593
Blood blood blood everywhere
Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
March 25 2012 05:38 GMT
#1594
poor shine
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
March 25 2012 05:38 GMT
#1595
Shine's spire a bunch earlier
He also adds a sunk in his main

I don't like the looks of this
mass speedlings moving out for Hoejja
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
March 25 2012 05:38 GMT
#1596
well this looks over...
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51621 Posts
March 25 2012 05:38 GMT
#1597
hoejja's spire is really behind though.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
March 25 2012 05:38 GMT
#1598
Looks like Hoejja moving in for the Kill
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
March 25 2012 05:38 GMT
#1599
*sigh* wanted to see an ACE match....but i guess Shine losing is enoguh....
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
March 25 2012 05:38 GMT
#1600
Go to hell Shine.
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