• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 19:03
CET 01:03
KST 09:03
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview1TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners11Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12
Community News
[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation10Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA8StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview [TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada Craziest Micro Moments Of All Time?
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle Brood War web app to calculate unit interactions [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BW General Discussion Terran 1:35 12 Gas Optimization
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] RO32 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro?
Other Games
General Games
Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1600 users

[SPL] PO KT Rolster vs CJ Entus Day 3 - Page 72

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 70 71 72 73 74 88 Next
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
March 20 2012 10:46 GMT
#1421
zzzzz expected better from effort.
that game 1 was terrible.
Lee Ssang/ Lee Shin/ Kim Jung Woo/ Kim Min Chul/Jun Tae Yang/Park Soo Ho/Lee Jung Hoon/Choi Sung Hoon/ Moon Sung Won/Park Ji Soo/ Lee Ho Joon/ Jang Min Chul/ Kim Seung Chul/SaSe/IdrA/Ret Fighting! BW4Life
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
March 20 2012 10:46 GMT
#1422
On March 20 2012 19:44 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 19:41 Elem wrote:
So, hi. I play SC2 primarily but as I saw a ton of tweets and no sc2 streamers I decided to check out the BW stream (again) and it's kinda interesting tbh.

It seems like mutas matter a lot in BW ZvZ? Is there no way to transition out of it when your opponent takes over, or? Do you need to rely on scourges just splatting his muta ball?

Im not an expert by any means, but primarily mutas rule zvz because of dmg system, they rape hydras and hydras do very little dmg. So in fact a hydra based zvz in professional zvz is once in a 10 year occurance.

Sometimes people transition out of it and go into "hive tech" zvz with hydra/ling/lurker defiler etc, but im not sure what are the reasons to favor switch because sometimes people just go for more mutas into hive tech (like jaedong vs yellow for example).

They were defilers and Devourers too (-which is the most common transition).
ZvZ is bw strangest match up, but I've grown very fond of him over the years. It's all about on the spot decision making and micro (which is hard to judge without experience, especially those muta vs muta battles).
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
March 20 2012 10:46 GMT
#1423
CJ has to be the most disappointing team in the PL. And ! at the end for Effort and Hydra continuously getting owned in ZvZs.

Oh well, I hope Khan players have been practicing their PvZs. Because that's probably the key matchup for next round against Crazy-Hydra, Action, and Hoejja.
Meh
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
March 20 2012 10:46 GMT
#1424
[image loading]
웅진 멘쓰즈
ellerina
Profile Joined April 2010
Philippines452 Posts
March 20 2012 10:46 GMT
#1425
CJ goes back to the depths of hell
Still round the corner there may wait , A new road or a secret gate /And though I oft have passed them by, A day will come at last when I /Shall take the hidden paths that run/West of the Moon, East of the Sun
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
March 20 2012 10:46 GMT
#1426
On March 20 2012 19:45 Lightwip wrote:
Well, looks like KT wins this. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise, you cheesed hard and successfully took advantage of the sheer volume of mediocrity of CJ today, and that brought you victory.
Cheese on in your next set!


teehee Lightwip makes me smile. hehe
Natus Vincere Fan | Team Secret Fan | SK Telecom T1 Fan | Lanaya the Templar Assassin <3
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
March 20 2012 10:46 GMT
#1427
On March 20 2012 19:45 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
who would have thought that kt zergs will own it up...great play by action and hoejja!!


Hoejja seems to like playoffs....I guess he trully is a clutch player.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
March 20 2012 10:46 GMT
#1428
On March 20 2012 19:44 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 19:41 Elem wrote:
So, hi. I play SC2 primarily but as I saw a ton of tweets and no sc2 streamers I decided to check out the BW stream (again) and it's kinda interesting tbh.

It seems like mutas matter a lot in BW ZvZ? Is there no way to transition out of it when your opponent takes over, or? Do you need to rely on scourges just splatting his muta ball?

Im not an expert by any means, but primarily mutas rule zvz because of dmg system, they rape hydras and hydras do very little dmg. So in fact a hydra based zvz in professional zvz is once in a 10 year occurance.

Sometimes people transition out of it and go into "hive tech" zvz with hydra/ling/lurker defiler etc, but im not sure what are the reasons to favor switch because sometimes people just go for more mutas into hive tech (like jaedong vs yellow for example).
I see, I see! Thanks!
#freeshauni
Draffut
Profile Joined July 2009
United States128 Posts
March 20 2012 10:46 GMT
#1429
On March 20 2012 19:45 oldgregg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 19:44 doothegee wrote:
On March 20 2012 19:43 rebdomine wrote:
fff I just got home.

Looks like I missed all the fun.

How was the quality of the the games today?

fecal matter


hoejja vs leta was good,


No, no it wasn't

flash vs horang was interesting..


Quite interesting actually. If you watch anything from this match, this should be it.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
March 20 2012 10:46 GMT
#1430
I can put my faith in twin cannons all day, the question is if Roro will be able to produce awesome games, and Turn /reality will turn (lolol) into beasts for Playoffs.
Stork[gm]
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
March 20 2012 10:47 GMT
#1431
Sigh, a 4-0 blowout. I really didn't expect CJ to win, but i had hoped that they would put up a fight. I wanted more games :3

At least Flash' game was really exciting
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
March 20 2012 10:47 GMT
#1432
On March 20 2012 19:44 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 19:41 Elem wrote:
So, hi. I play SC2 primarily but as I saw a ton of tweets and no sc2 streamers I decided to check out the BW stream (again) and it's kinda interesting tbh.

It seems like mutas matter a lot in BW ZvZ? Is there no way to transition out of it when your opponent takes over, or? Do you need to rely on scourges just splatting his muta ball?

Im not an expert by any means, but primarily mutas rule zvz because of dmg system, they rape hydras and hydras do very little dmg. So in fact a hydra based zvz in professional zvz is once in a 10 year occurance.

Sometimes people transition out of it and go into "hive tech" zvz with hydra/ling/lurker defiler etc, but im not sure what are the reasons to favor switch because sometimes people just go for more mutas into hive tech (like jaedong vs yellow for example).


muta mobility is also important.

in sc2, muta are hampered by the fact that a) hydras on creep are FAST and b) hydra ground-to-air DPS is very high. in sc1, hydras are slow and their damage to small units is paltry. thus, mutas can dance around and harass very effectively in sc1, while hydras are... not that strong.
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
HopLight
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden999 Posts
March 20 2012 10:47 GMT
#1433
On March 20 2012 19:45 Fionn wrote:
It's like people forget this is the team that is the only back-to-back Proleague champions with pretty much the same players except Violet/ForGG/Perfective.


That's a pretty big except. Violet
Tppz!
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1449 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-20 10:47:34
March 20 2012 10:47 GMT
#1434
playoff zerg time. i miss Perfective

anyways: congratz KT
Abort Retry Fail
Profile Joined December 2011
2636 Posts
March 20 2012 10:47 GMT
#1435
Guys please, thanks:

Poll: Do you recommend Match 5?

No (18)
 
51%

Yes (17)
 
49%

35 total votes

Your vote: Do you recommend Match 5?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



Poll: Do you recommend Match 6?

Yes (22)
 
65%

No (12)
 
35%

34 total votes

Your vote: Do you recommend Match 6?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



Poll: Do you recommend Match 7?

Yes (34)
 
83%

No (7)
 
17%

41 total votes

Your vote: Do you recommend Match 7?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


BSOD
Abjurer
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Sweden209 Posts
March 20 2012 10:48 GMT
#1436
Aww CJ
Some good games though, 2 and 3.
Best of luck to KT against Khan!
bw<3 cj<3
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-20 10:48:31
March 20 2012 10:48 GMT
#1437
Well, Cj couldn't put their shit together and displayed some weak games.

Effort losing to Action, in ZvZ, that is just lol
Leta losing to Hoejja, Hoejja played his best.
Horang losing to Flash, letting Flash scout him twice! (D level play)
Hydra losing to CH, the best ZvZer once.

CJ losing to KT. If you ask me? I was confident in KT. But cheered for CJ.
oldgregg
Profile Joined February 2011
New Zealand1176 Posts
March 20 2012 10:48 GMT
#1438
On March 20 2012 19:46 Draffut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 19:45 oldgregg wrote:
On March 20 2012 19:44 doothegee wrote:
On March 20 2012 19:43 rebdomine wrote:
fff I just got home.

Looks like I missed all the fun.

How was the quality of the the games today?

fecal matter


hoejja vs leta was good,


No, no it wasn't

Show nested quote +
flash vs horang was interesting..


Quite interesting actually. If you watch anything from this match, this should be it.


yea well that just like, your opinion man..
Calculatedly addicted to Substance D for profit by drug terrorists
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10234 Posts
March 20 2012 10:49 GMT
#1439
Just as I said. Zergs can't lose + FlaSh can't lose = GG.

Stork/Jangbi, get ready.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
[Silverflame]
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany640 Posts
March 20 2012 10:49 GMT
#1440
On March 20 2012 19:46 doothegee wrote:
[image loading]


♥!!!
Fav P Stork / Fav T Fantasy / Fav Z Hoejja
Prev 1 70 71 72 73 74 88 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 57m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft359
ProTech128
JuggernautJason123
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 568
Shuttle 558
NaDa 23
Sexy 22
Dota 2
PGG 198
monkeys_forever146
Counter-Strike
Foxcn241
Super Smash Bros
AZ_Axe82
Other Games
summit1g9593
gofns5826
Grubby4868
shahzam526
ViBE107
C9.Mang099
Livibee57
fpsfer 1
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick263
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 79
• RyuSc2 43
• davetesta41
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 14
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21384
League of Legends
• imaqtpie3040
• TFBlade1097
Other Games
• WagamamaTV391
• Scarra190
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
57m
RSL Revival
9h 57m
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
11h 57m
GuMiho vs MaNa
herO vs ShoWTimE
Classic vs TBD
WardiTV Korean Royale
11h 57m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 9h
RSL Revival
1d 9h
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Kung Fu Cup
1d 11h
Cure vs Reynor
IPSL
1d 16h
ZZZero vs rasowy
Napoleon vs KameZerg
BSL 21
1d 19h
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
2 days
Reynor vs sOs
Maru vs Ryung
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
BSL 21
2 days
JDConan vs Semih
Dragon vs Dienmax
Tech vs NewOcean
TerrOr vs Artosis
IPSL
2 days
Dewalt vs WolFix
eOnzErG vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-07
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
RSL Revival: Season 3
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.