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Gara
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada435 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 07:23:06
March 11 2012 07:21 GMT
#581
Sweet, this Bo7 with ace match format definitely favors KHAN over everyone else, although SKT certainly comes close in terms of depth. I have a hard time seeing KT fielding 6 or even 5 players strong enough to take down Stork, Jangbi, Brave, Grape, Turn, Shine, Roro, and Reality.
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 07:23:10
March 11 2012 07:21 GMT
#582
On March 11 2012 16:18 yepenaxa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 16:12 Torenhire wrote:
On March 11 2012 16:11 yepenaxa wrote:
thanks Torenhire for the explanation.

On March 11 2012 16:08 Obelisco wrote:
so, If CJ beats Ace , they are 4th, if not Stars is 4th. As simple as that right?


yeah, basically. cj has to beat ace, or they are out and stars are in.
what happens in the playoff then?
1 vs 4, 2 vs 3?


3vs4, winner vs 2, winner vs 1


so:

---- Quarters ------- Semis --- Finals
[[KT vs CJ/Stars] vs Khan] vs SKT

where CJ/Stars to be decided in the CJ vs Ace game.


amiright?

also thanks hero.sp


Yeah, and thanks for summarizing it. Added to the OP.
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
March 11 2012 07:22 GMT
#583
On March 11 2012 16:10 SlowBullets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 16:08 yepenaxa wrote:
[image loading]


reminds me of:

[image loading]

[image loading]'

the man knows how to trollface
Writer:o
RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
March 11 2012 07:22 GMT
#584
skt you are going down, after we beat the quarter winner.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
March 11 2012 07:27 GMT
#585
On March 11 2012 16:22 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 16:10 SlowBullets wrote:
On March 11 2012 16:08 yepenaxa wrote:
[image loading]


reminds me of:

[image loading]

[image loading]'

the man knows how to trollface

Jangbi's like the nicest person on Khan. Actually, any buddy of MBC players is a good guy in my book.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
March 11 2012 07:33 GMT
#586
lol free looks like an old man grumbling about the new generation of kids.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
March 11 2012 08:00 GMT
#587
On March 11 2012 16:21 Gara wrote:
Sweet, this Bo7 with ace match format definitely favors KHAN over everyone else, although SKT certainly comes close in terms of depth. I have a hard time seeing KT fielding 6 or even 5 players strong enough to take down Stork, Jangbi, Brave, Grape, Turn, Shine, Roro, and Reality.

we've wooki, action, flash, stats, mind, crazy-hydra hoejja and barracks avaible

And maybe 1more if perfective vol 2 appears ? :p
In the woods, there lurks..
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
March 11 2012 08:12 GMT
#588
On March 11 2012 17:00 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 16:21 Gara wrote:
Sweet, this Bo7 with ace match format definitely favors KHAN over everyone else, although SKT certainly comes close in terms of depth. I have a hard time seeing KT fielding 6 or even 5 players strong enough to take down Stork, Jangbi, Brave, Grape, Turn, Shine, Roro, and Reality.

we've wooki, action, flash, stats, mind, crazy-hydra hoejja and barracks avaible

And maybe 1more if perfective vol 2 appears ? :p

...

in b4 perfectman becomes clutch

...

IT COULD HAPPEN.
WriterXiao8~~
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
March 11 2012 10:37 GMT
#589
On March 11 2012 16:18 yepenaxa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 16:12 Torenhire wrote:
On March 11 2012 16:11 yepenaxa wrote:
thanks Torenhire for the explanation.

On March 11 2012 16:08 Obelisco wrote:
so, If CJ beats Ace , they are 4th, if not Stars is 4th. As simple as that right?


yeah, basically. cj has to beat ace, or they are out and stars are in.
what happens in the playoff then?
1 vs 4, 2 vs 3?


3vs4, winner vs 2, winner vs 1


so:

---- Quarters ------- Semis --- Finals
[[KT vs CJ/Stars] vs Khan] vs SKT

where CJ/Stars to be decided in the CJ vs Ace game.


amiright?

also thanks hero.sp


skt has to win one more, against T8, to ensure first spot i think
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
March 11 2012 10:53 GMT
#590
On March 11 2012 19:37 Doraemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 16:18 yepenaxa wrote:
On March 11 2012 16:12 Torenhire wrote:
On March 11 2012 16:11 yepenaxa wrote:
thanks Torenhire for the explanation.

On March 11 2012 16:08 Obelisco wrote:
so, If CJ beats Ace , they are 4th, if not Stars is 4th. As simple as that right?


yeah, basically. cj has to beat ace, or they are out and stars are in.
what happens in the playoff then?
1 vs 4, 2 vs 3?


3vs4, winner vs 2, winner vs 1


so:

---- Quarters ------- Semis --- Finals
[[KT vs CJ/Stars] vs Khan] vs SKT

where CJ/Stars to be decided in the CJ vs Ace game.


amiright?

also thanks hero.sp


skt has to win one more, against T8, to ensure first spot i think

Already done
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13092 Posts
March 11 2012 11:14 GMT
#591
Yay KHAN won but meh the evil empire in first place again :S

I just want for once a final that wont have SKT/KT .
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
babysuperga
Profile Joined November 2011
Vietnam49 Posts
March 11 2012 12:07 GMT
#592
Jangbi is good, but I think Stork is still the best Protoss.
Look at his match against Zero today. The longer the game goes, the better he plays.
Such an experienced player.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 11 2012 12:19 GMT
#593
On March 11 2012 16:22 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 16:10 SlowBullets wrote:
On March 11 2012 16:08 yepenaxa wrote:
[image loading]


reminds me of:

[image loading]

[image loading]'

the man knows how to trollface

oh come on, jangbi just looks happy, not trolling =P
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
March 11 2012 14:27 GMT
#594
On March 11 2012 16:21 Gara wrote:
Sweet, this Bo7 with ace match format definitely favors KHAN over everyone else, although SKT certainly comes close in terms of depth. I have a hard time seeing KT fielding 6 or even 5 players strong enough to take down Stork, Jangbi, Brave, Grape, Turn, Shine, Roro, and Reality.

It still favours the teams with the strongest aces (KT/SKT1). You really only need 2 or 3 strong players and some well planned all-ins from the scrubs for an extra win or two. KT just needs flash + 2 wins from stats/ch/hoejja/action/perfective then it's all over despite your depth. Flash, Stats and CH in current form make it at least going to ace pretty likely. CJ have effort/leta/hydra/snow/horang2 which Samsung is also unlikely to get through easily. Depth will get samsung to ace matches but you're still relying on stork beating hydra/effort/flash/fantasy, all of whom are favoured against him.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Gara
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada435 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 21:20:42
March 11 2012 15:22 GMT
#595
On March 11 2012 17:00 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 16:21 Gara wrote:
Sweet, this Bo7 with ace match format definitely favors KHAN over everyone else, although SKT certainly comes close in terms of depth. I have a hard time seeing KT fielding 6 or even 5 players strong enough to take down Stork, Jangbi, Brave, Grape, Turn, Shine, Roro, and Reality.

we've wooki, action, flash, stats, mind, crazy-hydra hoejja and barracks avaible

And maybe 1more if perfective vol 2 appears ? :p


Maybe "favors KHAN over everyone else" is a bit exaggerated, but it's definitely better for KHAN than Bo5 and worse for most other teams. That's what I was really trying to say and I may have gotten overblown KHAN's chances.

I wouldn't exactly call Action (3-6), Hoejja (2-5), or Mind (2-7!) particularly reliable, although by the same vein I guess Grape (1-5) and Roro (4-7) should probably be eliminated from my list.


On March 11 2012 23:27 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 16:21 Gara wrote:
Sweet, this Bo7 with ace match format definitely favors KHAN over everyone else, although SKT certainly comes close in terms of depth. I have a hard time seeing KT fielding 6 or even 5 players strong enough to take down Stork, Jangbi, Brave, Grape, Turn, Shine, Roro, and Reality.

It still favours the teams with the strongest aces (KT/SKT1). You really only need 2 or 3 strong players and some well planned all-ins from the scrubs for an extra win or two. KT just needs flash + 2 wins from stats/ch/hoejja/action/perfective then it's all over despite your depth. Flash, Stats and CH in current form make it at least going to ace pretty likely. CJ have effort/leta/hydra/snow/horang2 which Samsung is also unlikely to get through easily. Depth will get samsung to ace matches but you're still relying on stork beating hydra/effort/flash/fantasy, all of whom are favoured against him.


Depth means that KHAN can win before it goes to an ace match. Hoejja & Action are unimpressive this season, and Stats is hardly a guaranteed win either. I would favor Turn or Shine over Hoejja, and almost any KHAN 2nd-string player over Action. It all comes down to matchups. If either CH or Stats drop a game, then KT's chances of taking it to game 7 drop significantly; Stats has been looking particularly vulnerable of late.

Also, Effort and Hydra are 3-5 and 1-2 in ZvP this season, whereas Stork is 5-1 PvZ...

Out of the 12 Bo7s that were played in the last playoffs, only 3 went to a 7th set.
nextstep
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada705 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 16:23:03
March 11 2012 16:21 GMT
#596
On March 11 2012 23:27 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 16:21 Gara wrote:
Sweet, this Bo7 with ace match format definitely favors KHAN over everyone else, although SKT certainly comes close in terms of depth. I have a hard time seeing KT fielding 6 or even 5 players strong enough to take down Stork, Jangbi, Brave, Grape, Turn, Shine, Roro, and Reality.

It still favours the teams with the strongest aces (KT/SKT1). You really only need 2 or 3 strong players and some well planned all-ins from the scrubs for an extra win or two. KT just needs flash + 2 wins from stats/ch/hoejja/action/perfective then it's all over despite your depth. Flash, Stats and CH in current form make it at least going to ace pretty likely. CJ have effort/leta/hydra/snow/horang2 which Samsung is also unlikely to get through easily. Depth will get samsung to ace matches but you're still relying on stork beating hydra/effort/flash/fantasy, all of whom are favoured against him.


wow, never thought of it like that.

granted, i only starting thinking about the depth thing yesterday night, but you're absolutely right.
with the ace system, you don't really need to be 7 (or 8 in our case) deep in a Bo7.
edit: any yea, of course, depends on the matchups.

all the better imo, i much rather cheer on for KHAN as underdogs.
with that mentality, it's always more fulfilling, should they win. and if not, we were expected to lose.

regardless, can't wait for the playoffs!
go KHAN!
go KHAN! TBLS <3
JMave
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Singapore1806 Posts
March 11 2012 16:35 GMT
#597
whoa.. set two was amazing. have not seen such in a while
火心 Jealous. I always loved that feeling when I was young. Embrace it.
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3521 Posts
March 11 2012 16:48 GMT
#598
Khan Protoss... wow! ^-^
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
March 11 2012 18:39 GMT
#599
Jangbi just owned shy the last game.
jumbotroN
Profile Joined April 2010
Peru229 Posts
March 11 2012 21:26 GMT
#600
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