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On February 17 2012 08:17 burbon wrote: Got to C with mass scouts? Show replays. I bet you made some scouts after big advantage when you basicaly won the game. If you mean 3000 points, its possible.
Usually yea, but not necessarily.
PvZ you don't have to secure an advantage. Turns out scouts are pretty good to "muta micro" and snipe drones, overlords, scourge and even hydras. In fact, they're a lot more efficient at sniping scourge than mutas are. What you need is a narrow map with easily securable expos, ie. Destination. Just mass cannons and get upgrades and it's not that hard, scouts are really fast with the speed upgrade.
PvP it's harder, but if the opponent isn't that good you can win without securing a big advantage, but close to C it's very hard, so yea, I secured a decent advantage, and scouts are great at keeping and increasing it if you use them right. Sniping probes <3.
PvT it's a lot harder, you have to secure a good advantage or completely surprise the opponent.
But theoretically, you can constantly play vs 3000 pts guys that barely hit C- and get to C easily.
If you really want some replays I can search, I think I might have some saved, but most are probably gone.
On February 17 2012 08:33 hellbound wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2012 08:17 burbon wrote: Got to C with mass scouts? Show replays. I bet you made some scouts after big advantage when you basicaly won the game. If you mean 3000 points, its possible. I met one guy doing some 2stargate scout build in C- last season. I could tell that he was a lot better than me, but sadly hydras>scouts and one can't be all cute with harassing when your nat is getting razed... But this is getting way offtopic. A guy who hits C with scout builds is at least blue playing seriously.
Maybe it was me. I usually go fe and then scouts though, not 1 base. I generally avoid using HTs when going scouts vs zerg as it's almost cheating. So sometimes I lose to hydras in the mid-late game. 
Anyway, as you said, enough offtopic. On topic, someone should get this guy, Justin get him in our team! :
On February 17 2012 22:48 ajmbek wrote:So, here am I (: Rank/Max Rank: c- / c? ICCUP account: http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/ajmbek.cry.htmlRace: P i hope there will be a lot of fun with not many players > yellow ranks and not too much d+ that grabs a c- just to play here xD anyway the captans will chose, i shoud make a nice face like chose me chose me haha =_0 <--- angry pirat
<3 bek :D He's good strategy/decision making wise but he needs to improve his mechanics and maybe solidify some bos. He has potential if he practices.
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On February 18 2012 02:45 Eywa- wrote: he can still say that C- has a better chance of taking games off of a C+ rank because at least a C- player can do basic things such as Hydra bust and ling allin.
Except that's not what he said:
On February 16 2012 16:07 sluggaslamoo wrote: A C- player can take a game off a C+ player in a macro game
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On February 18 2012 04:19 Sayle wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 02:45 Eywa- wrote: he can still say that C- has a better chance of taking games off of a C+ rank because at least a C- player can do basic things such as Hydra bust and ling allin. Except that's not what he said: Show nested quote +On February 16 2012 16:07 sluggaslamoo wrote: A C- player can take a game off a C+ player in a macro game Huh ;d you may be right then, dunno if a C- can take a game off of a C+ in a legit game... the only way you would be able to accurately tell what ranks meant would be if everyone laddered to a point where their win % ceases to increase their rank. i.e. when you say D+ is different than saying D+ mass gamer because one you know is D+, other one can be C-/C/C+... no one knows.
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Rank/Max Rank: C- ICCUP account: [UCSD]Herms Race:Terran
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Rank/Max Rank: C- ICCUP account: NinjoOb Race:Terran
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Im sure that a C- Toss could beat a C+ terran or a C- terran could beat a C+ zerg. I've seen A rank players in ISL reps lose to atrociously worse players in those mu's.
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On February 18 2012 05:11 puppykiller wrote: Im sure that a C- Toss could beat a C+ terran or a C- terran could beat a C+ zerg. I've seen A rank players in ISL reps lose to atrociously worse players in those mu's.
Birthday boy. You're wrong! =D
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Draft style is probably best. I don't know who'll be captain, but going snake order is probably best (1st to last, last picks twice, back to first, first pick twice etc...)
Bo7 is a bit ambitious though, seeing how you'll need like 10 player teams to cover those who don't show up. I guess you need to see how many people sign up.
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i guess bo5 will be the right choice =P
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Since its gonna be a draft ill officially put my name in the hat.
Max rank: C+ ICCup account: ni.lumire Race: Zerg
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Any idea when the draft is gonna start? Do we even have enough players yet?
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On February 18 2012 05:27 renzy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 05:11 puppykiller wrote: Im sure that a C- Toss could beat a C+ terran or a C- terran could beat a C+ zerg. I've seen A rank players in ISL reps lose to atrociously worse players in those mu's. Birthday boy. You're wrong! =D I've beaten C+ terrans occasionally with my offrace protoss which is like D+.
Just sayin.
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On February 18 2012 09:54 Lumire wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 05:27 renzy wrote:On February 18 2012 05:11 puppykiller wrote: Im sure that a C- Toss could beat a C+ terran or a C- terran could beat a C+ zerg. I've seen A rank players in ISL reps lose to atrociously worse players in those mu's. Birthday boy. You're wrong! =D I've beaten C+ terrans occasionally with my offrace protoss which is like D+. Just sayin. Panda also beat KC the other night once in TvP.
Just sayin.
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On February 18 2012 09:48 Eywa- wrote: If C rank team league wants players from here, they should tell those specific people that they should enter the draft.
I'd say top players to consider:
Nikon 7-1 Essbee 6-2 Eywa- 6-3 Slugger 5-0 Sabas 5-3 Conversion 5-3 Jealous 4-0 Canadium 3-0 Holgerius 3-1 Tetraspace 3-1 Lmaster 2-0 Gao Xi 2-0 Prophecy 2-1
D rank teamleague is all set with like 80 players and were looking sorta thin. Some of these player probably would fight to stay a big fish in a small pond and be the ace for their teammates, but i think we should consider looking into some of them.
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On February 18 2012 09:56 Harem wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 09:54 Lumire wrote:On February 18 2012 05:27 renzy wrote:On February 18 2012 05:11 puppykiller wrote: Im sure that a C- Toss could beat a C+ terran or a C- terran could beat a C+ zerg. I've seen A rank players in ISL reps lose to atrociously worse players in those mu's. Birthday boy. You're wrong! =D I've beaten C+ terrans occasionally with my offrace protoss which is like D+. Just sayin. Panda also beat KC the other night once in TvP. Just sayin. Panda's rank is probably super high C+ to B- ,lolz ;P.
@Eywa- Of course some are those players are high D+. Very reasonable.
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On February 18 2012 10:13 puppykiller wrote:Show nested quote + On February 18 2012 09:48 Eywa- wrote: If C rank team league wants players from here, they should tell those specific people that they should enter the draft.
I'd say top players to consider:
Nikon 7-1 Essbee 6-2 Eywa- 6-3 Slugger 5-0 Sabas 5-3 Conversion 5-3 Jealous 4-0 Canadium 3-0 Holgerius 3-1 Tetraspace 3-1 Lmaster 2-0 Gao Xi 2-0 Prophecy 2-1
D rank teamleague is all set with like 80 players and were looking sorta thin. Some of these player probably would fight to stay a big fish in a small pond and be the ace for their teammates, but i think we should consider looking into some of them.
I'm in kinda of in a pinch, going 5:0 (and completely drunk at 3am T_T) makes me feel like I shouldn't be in DRTL, but I don't think I'm good enough for CRTL either lol.
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On February 18 2012 10:13 puppykiller wrote:Show nested quote + On February 18 2012 09:48 Eywa- wrote: If C rank team league wants players from here, they should tell those specific people that they should enter the draft.
I'd say top players to consider:
Nikon 7-1 Essbee 6-2 Eywa- 6-3 Slugger 5-0 Sabas 5-3 Conversion 5-3 Jealous 4-0 Canadium 3-0 Holgerius 3-1 Tetraspace 3-1 Lmaster 2-0 Gao Xi 2-0 Prophecy 2-1
D rank teamleague is all set with like 80 players and were looking sorta thin. Some of these player probably would fight to stay a big fish in a small pond and be the ace for their teammates, but i think we should consider looking into some of them.
Well, I did a small count and you guys have ~35 people or so? I'm not sure if getting some of the people from that list will solve your problems with turnout, sadly. I would've thought that there were more yellow ranks people on TL TT_TT
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Rank/Max Rank: C- ICCUP account: Black[CAT] Race: Terran
I'm so bad.....
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There is too few people want to play, bad. Up
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Submitting again, max rank C-, couldnt join D ranks because I hit C.
Iccup: UED_ReZuya , is also my skype race: Protoss, vs Z I play Z rank: C-
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