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On February 12 2012 15:35 red4ce wrote:
11 mutas for 2 high templar wasn't worth it at all. The mutas should have come earlier so that Effort could have sniped high templar when they were in the middle of the map and not when BeSt's army was knocking on his front door.
sure it could've been used earlier, but effort would've rolled over and totally lost if he didnt snipe those HT. Muta sniping is an integral part of mass Hydra strategies, and getting those Lurkers honestly was the mistake I thought. Refer to the 09-10 era when Zergs were facerolling Protosses with Muta/Hydra compositions
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Lol where are the CJ fans?
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"Wait- before you end it..I need to say a word to my mother. She was so sad because she thought i wasnt going to do anything for her birthday and i ignored her...
Mom, I promise I love you and I haven't forgotten. I will bring you a great present tomorrow so wait for me tomorrow!"
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Awe inspiring interview
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I really think CJ is going to lose 1-3 here and make Leta disappoint again.
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On February 12 2012 15:37 Zona wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 15:35 Hero.SP wrote:On February 12 2012 15:34 mnesthes wrote:On February 12 2012 15:33 Taekwon wrote:
"I've been losing a lot of my PvTs...netizens have been harping about my PvZ/T switch. I will work much harder and balance out both of them to perfection" lol you can't you can only be good at 1 MU at a time  Unless you are God. You know why Flash fans are considered obnoxious? Here you are. WTF does your comment have to do with the discussion at hand?
A fine observation. You always wonder how you-know-who gets brought up in matches where his team isn't even playing...
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On February 12 2012 15:38 Taekwon wrote:
"Yeah, i will try get on a winning streak..but our upcoming matchups are difficult! khan and kt, man wow...
i just hope i can become a solid part of FBB"
Best interview is hilarious.
Thanks taekwon!
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On February 12 2012 15:35 Golgotha wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 15:31 red4ce wrote:
Well that should keep the people who harp about PvZ not being entertaining quiet for a while. What I don't understand is where was Effort's tech. 25 minutes of pure mass hydra with a few lurkers sprinkle here and there. No hive, no swarm, no cracklings...wth? Effort never really had a good time where he could safely tech without getting 2 base or 3 base rolled. guys it's not like effort is an idiot and doesnt know about hive or upgrades. he wants to get there of course, but if he doesn't field an army and defense to stop the toss army from killing him mid game, then what good are upgrades. he constantly traded armies with best, so he had to make more hydras to stay alive. thus, he never really had a good time to tech.
Effort wasn't on the back foot the entire game. I think if he had consolidated his lurkers to create a defensive perimeter instead of randomly leaving them out in groups of 2 to get killed he would have been safe enough to go to hive.
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On February 12 2012 15:39 mnesthes wrote:
I really think CJ is going to lose 1-3 here and make Leta disappoint again.
CJ Leta!
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On February 12 2012 15:38 ArvickHero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 15:35 red4ce wrote:
11 mutas for 2 high templar wasn't worth it at all. The mutas should have come earlier so that Effort could have sniped high templar when they were in the middle of the map and not when BeSt's army was knocking on his front door. sure it could've been used earlier, but effort would've rolled over and totally lost if he didnt snipe those HT. Muta sniping is an integral part of mass Hydra strategies, and getting those Lurkers honestly was the mistake I thought. Refer to the 09-10 era when Zergs were facerolling Protosses with Muta/Hydra compositions
To be fair, that is exactly the reason why toss opts for such high goon/sair counts nowadays, something I believe Bisu did on HBR which picked up after a while. Before, Zergs were facerolling especially hard because they were actually preserving some amount of their muta stack, whereas now they know they will lose all of it.
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On February 12 2012 15:33 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 15:30 Golgotha wrote:On February 12 2012 15:29 Lightwip wrote:On February 12 2012 15:27 Golgotha wrote:
man i understand why zergs just hydra bust all in most of the times. to beat toss in late game, you gotta somehow get +2 more bases than toss to match army mass. AND, the whole game depends on how well you dodge storms. if you fuck up a storm dodge at crucial moment, you just outright lose.
effort here is ballsy and very impressive for going head to head and dodging storms. but still he is having a very hard time and any battle can be turned with a couple storms. no wonder zergs dont want to risk late game with toss.
lol @ storms... It's almost like you can pretend that ZvP isn't pretty strongly Z-favored. uh look at the stats in zvp for this PL. then come back to me kid. You've already admitted that you are new to the scene. 1 season, maybe 2 of P holding their own against Z does little to counteract the 10 preceding years of sheer Z dominance. The brief golden age of Toss, and the Bisu revolution period, still both had around 50% WR for P. Statistically, Z > P is still the most imbalanced matchup I believe. Also lol@'kid' why throw trash into argument? Weakens your voice.
my apologies you are right. just frustrated watching zvp.
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poor rain,,,,
i hope he doesnt think hes being a sacrificial lamb!
go dts rain!
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On February 12 2012 15:38 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 15:35 shaftofpleasure wrote:On February 12 2012 15:34 friendbg wrote:On February 12 2012 15:32 Hero.SP wrote:
Well, Best now is pretty good vs Zerg. Nobody would say he lost to drone drill in the past. those were the good times Them drone drills ^____________^ And the icing on the cake when Best got outmacroed in the 3rd set in one of the best ZvPs I can remember.
the expression on bisu's face.
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On February 12 2012 15:40 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 15:37 Zona wrote:On February 12 2012 15:35 Hero.SP wrote:On February 12 2012 15:34 mnesthes wrote:On February 12 2012 15:33 Taekwon wrote:
"I've been losing a lot of my PvTs...netizens have been harping about my PvZ/T switch. I will work much harder and balance out both of them to perfection" lol you can't you can only be good at 1 MU at a time Unless you are God. You know why Flash fans are considered obnoxious? Here you are. WTF does your comment have to do with the discussion at hand? A fine observation. You always wonder how you-know-who gets brought up in matches where his team isn't even playing... I'm sure I didn't expect my comment to be quoted and then followed with a Flash reference.
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On February 12 2012 15:40 red4ce wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 15:35 Golgotha wrote:On February 12 2012 15:31 red4ce wrote:
Well that should keep the people who harp about PvZ not being entertaining quiet for a while. What I don't understand is where was Effort's tech. 25 minutes of pure mass hydra with a few lurkers sprinkle here and there. No hive, no swarm, no cracklings...wth? Effort never really had a good time where he could safely tech without getting 2 base or 3 base rolled. guys it's not like effort is an idiot and doesnt know about hive or upgrades. he wants to get there of course, but if he doesn't field an army and defense to stop the toss army from killing him mid game, then what good are upgrades. he constantly traded armies with best, so he had to make more hydras to stay alive. thus, he never really had a good time to tech. Effort wasn't on the back foot the entire game. I think if he had consolidated his lurkers to create a defensive perimeter instead of randomly leaving them out in groups of 2 to get killed he would have been safe enough to go to hive.
Also, it's not like upgrades cost 400/400 or something
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On February 12 2012 15:41 mnesthes wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 15:40 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On February 12 2012 15:37 Zona wrote:On February 12 2012 15:35 Hero.SP wrote:On February 12 2012 15:34 mnesthes wrote:On February 12 2012 15:33 Taekwon wrote:
"I've been losing a lot of my PvTs...netizens have been harping about my PvZ/T switch. I will work much harder and balance out both of them to perfection" lol you can't you can only be good at 1 MU at a time Unless you are God. You know why Flash fans are considered obnoxious? Here you are. WTF does your comment have to do with the discussion at hand? A fine observation. You always wonder how you-know-who gets brought up in matches where his team isn't even playing... I'm sure I didn't expect my comment to be quoted and then followed with a Flash reference.
i did
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EPT
