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On January 07 2012 15:47 Hyde wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 15:45 Fionn wrote:
Team 8 coach needs to send a message to his team. Next game: Sang, Speed2, and Ryul is the starting line-up. That's what GTR said last time too, they should just field them to throw a curve ball out, even if they have to cheese. Sea needs to mix his TvP up a bit too, do something aggressive early game instead of rax FE. ACE came prepared today, well done. If they continue this path they can make the playoffs, and that would be freeking exciting Thank you, streamers! Much appreciated and it's nice seeing more streamers. Thank you Zona and X10A for LR. See you guys tomorrow
While i agree overall, cheesing in any of his TvP now would probably be the wrongest thing he could do. Going ""meh i can't beat them the normal way so i'll cheese" would betray...i don't know...the very essence of him being a top progamer i feel.
(watch him do that and go on a vP winning streak just to spite me, i'd even be fine with that).
Should not post anymore, sleepy brain can hardly think.
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On January 07 2012 15:47 bITt.mAN wrote:
When I read T8's roster I thought the best players from the three teams would condense into a sick team, but I guess I'm wrong, they're doing bad. Is it because they're no longer bonjwa factories, is it stress getting inthe way of porper practice, how come their team is just.doing.so.poorly? >:
"Sick" has other dictionary meanings. In this case, it could use any of the adverbs "terminally" or "mortally" to describe them more accurately.
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Thanks to streamer and OP!!
Bad games today but at least with some very unorthodox builds.
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When Baby saw the hydras with his first vulture the first thing he should have done was make 2 bunkers and spam marines.
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On January 07 2012 15:34 cz wrote:
Great got this, calling it now.
awesome call 
so happy we won today
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On January 07 2012 15:48 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 15:43 Shotcoder wrote:
BaBy all in'd again. He needs to stop trying to be fancy and just play safe. There isn't some systemic problem with his play like fanciness. Sometimes you just drop games. He didn't quite have all the holes plugged for what he did today. It's not helpful advice to tell someone to stop playing fancy and to play safe. If you make safeness a priority, you just die to econ play. BW is a balancing game. Telling BaBy to play safe is similar to say MacGuyver is about to be blown up in 5 seconds. You happen to be walking past him and say "Hey Macguyver, try not to blow yourself up until you're absolutely sure which wire on the bomb." Well, that doesn't really help him at all, since he'll never be absolutely sure in 5 seconds, he'd just die if he took your advice. The default result of a BW game is a loss. Every game has to be won, and that physically isn't possible to do with any reliability if your focus is just not dying.
I get what you're saying, but given that Great is objectively mediocre vZ, why on Earth do you need to go for a greedy build? If he goes heavy econ and you play safe fine, then you might be at a disadvantage, but that isn't an automatic loss by any stretch.
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ace really came prepared
really impressed with games 3 and 4 with the strategy
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On January 07 2012 15:51 Shurayuki wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 15:47 Hyde wrote:On January 07 2012 15:45 Fionn wrote:
Team 8 coach needs to send a message to his team. Next game: Sang, Speed2, and Ryul is the starting line-up. That's what GTR said last time too, they should just field them to throw a curve ball out, even if they have to cheese. Sea needs to mix his TvP up a bit too, do something aggressive early game instead of rax FE. ACE came prepared today, well done. If they continue this path they can make the playoffs, and that would be freeking exciting Thank you, streamers! Much appreciated and it's nice seeing more streamers. Thank you Zona and X10A for LR. See you guys tomorrow While i agree overall, cheesing in any of his TvP now would probably be the wrongest thing he could do. Going ""meh i can't beat them the normal way so i'll cheese" would betray...i don't know...the very essence of him being a top progamer i feel. (watch him do that and go on a vP winning streak just to spite me, i'd even be fine with that). Should not post anymore, sleepy brain can hardly think.
It surprises me how many Terrans have just gotten caught with their pants down when they start pushing with their first few tanks lately. A couple of them were 5facts that the T won anyway. It happened to fbh against stork on La Mancha in similar fashion.
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On January 07 2012 15:53 RJGooner wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 15:48 oBlade wrote:On January 07 2012 15:43 Shotcoder wrote:
BaBy all in'd again. He needs to stop trying to be fancy and just play safe. There isn't some systemic problem with his play like fanciness. Sometimes you just drop games. He didn't quite have all the holes plugged for what he did today. It's not helpful advice to tell someone to stop playing fancy and to play safe. If you make safeness a priority, you just die to econ play. BW is a balancing game. Telling BaBy to play safe is similar to say MacGuyver is about to be blown up in 5 seconds. You happen to be walking past him and say "Hey Macguyver, try not to blow yourself up until you're absolutely sure which wire on the bomb." Well, that doesn't really help him at all, since he'll never be absolutely sure in 5 seconds, he'd just die if he took your advice. The default result of a BW game is a loss. Every game has to be won, and that physically isn't possible to do with any reliability if your focus is just not dying. I get what you're saying, but given that Great is objectively mediocre vZ, why on Earth do you need to go for a greedy build? If he goes heavy econ and you play safe fine, then you might be at a disadvantage, but that isn't an automatic loss by any stretch.
Bisu vs go.go series: A classic case of safe play being abused hard
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Sea should stop getting sent out against P... he just can't...
Also, JD losing to Canata is the last thing BW would want  .
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ACE is not a loser anymore?
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On January 07 2012 15:54 NicksonReyes wrote:Sea should stop getting sent out against P... he just can't... Also, JD losing to Canata is the last thing BW would want .
Why so? We got to see a very outstanding build. Who knows if it will start a trend?
This just shows how much depth BW has.
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To be fair to the coach, ACE has sent Terran on Sniper Ridge way more times than Protoss.
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On January 07 2012 15:43 Fionn wrote:
Team 8 now 2-6.
Team 8 is the new ACE.
Except even when ACE was always last, you still like to watch them, occasionally epic upsets, and even some entertaining defeats. Team 8, on the other hand, has not been fun at all to watch this season, in any scenario.
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On January 07 2012 15:56 LittLeLives wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 15:54 NicksonReyes wrote:Sea should stop getting sent out against P... he just can't... Also, JD losing to Canata is the last thing BW would want . Why so? We got to see a very outstanding build. Who knows if it will start a trend? This just shows how much depth BW has.
Now you mention it, I haven't seen so many Valkyries in TvZ before.
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Blue player sucks so much :D
He always dies first and then red loses the will to play.
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On January 07 2012 15:58 InTheFade wrote:Except even when ACE was always last, you still like to watch them, occasionally epic upsets, and even some entertaining defeats. Team 8, on the other hand, has not been fun at all to watch this season, in any scenario.
I disagree. The opening game of the opening match of the season was awesome, thanks to Baby.
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On January 07 2012 15:51 LittLeLives wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 15:48 oBlade wrote:On January 07 2012 15:43 Shotcoder wrote:
BaBy all in'd again. He needs to stop trying to be fancy and just play safe. There isn't some systemic problem with his play like fanciness. Sometimes you just drop games. He didn't quite have all the holes plugged for what he did today. It's not helpful advice to tell someone to stop playing fancy and to play safe. If you make safeness a priority, you just die to econ play. BW is a balancing game. Telling BaBy to play safe is similar to say MacGuyver is about to be blown up in 5 seconds. You happen to be walking past him and say "Hey Macguyver, try not to blow yourself up until you're absolutely sure which wire on the bomb." Well, that doesn't really help him at all, since he'll never be absolutely sure in 5 seconds, he'd just die if he took your advice. The default result of a BW game is a loss. Every game has to be won, and that physically isn't possible to do with any reliability if your focus is just not dying. Aye, I saw Baby going rax, fac, proxy ebay, port more as him opening options for himself once he gets his ebay to see what great was hiding. Unfortunately, it didn't work out for him.
Not building any marines for ages probably didn't help when units came his way
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Ohhh snap Canata, unleashing the big guns on JD, now I regret not watching that game. +3 Valkyries?!?? Has he been secretly contacting oov via military communications?
Yeah ACE!! But Team 8
Meanwhile, Kal is continuing to kick ass. 4 win streak so far
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On January 07 2012 15:56 LittLeLives wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 15:54 NicksonReyes wrote:Sea should stop getting sent out against P... he just can't... Also, JD losing to Canata is the last thing BW would want . Why so? We got to see a very outstanding build. Who knows if it will start a trend? This just shows how much depth BW has.
We might've seen a "very outstanding build", but the chances that we may not see 8 teams for another season just got higher...
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