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George_the_man
Profile Joined May 2011
796 Posts
January 06 2012 16:57 GMT
#241
On January 07 2012 01:44 sviatoslavrichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 01:37 George_the_man wrote:
On January 07 2012 01:07 sviatoslavrichter wrote:
On January 07 2012 00:59 George_the_man wrote:
On January 07 2012 00:56 sviatoslavrichter wrote:
On January 07 2012 00:48 Kiett wrote:
On January 07 2012 00:43 sviatoslavrichter wrote:
On January 07 2012 00:39 Kiett wrote:
On January 06 2012 18:32 aupstar wrote:
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On January 05 2012 15:17 BLinD-RawR wrote:
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maybe I will make a few more banners for hype,otherwise I'll secretly swap some of disciple's work.
(P)Bisu:Come at me bro!
(T)Flash:meh whatever..



It's funny you say that given Bisu's the only one that was whining about being in the group of death created by hydra (i.e., flash, jaedong, bisu, sea).

I'd hardly think Bisu would try to instigate Flash in any way.


I don't think the group of death would have been a big problem at all, except due to the group placings, Bisu never even got to play Jaedong once T_T if Flash and Jaedong had been switched in position, I think Bisu could have advanced. Not to say that playing Jaedong is auto win or anything, but its a hell of a lot better than playing flash twice. He got the worst luck that MSL...


Naw, he got the worst luck that OSL when he had to play Hyvaa.

j/k <3


Oh, you mean that one OSL where Bisu plays Hyvaa and rips through him 2-0 and then... gets eliminated from the group stages by Effort and Leta.

Sigh.


No I meant the ODT where Bisu decides to double expand on La Mancha because he thinks his opponent is rushing heavy eco off 4 base, and then gets eliminated because Hyvaa went for a low-eco heavy gas defiler timing, lol


i liked the unedited version more anyway link that game plz?




All three games here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10034371


aww Bisu so sad after that game if he wasnt in SKT ...
thanks for link imo he lost cause of bad army positioning thanks to he lost 3rd and 4th base but whatever


He thought Hyvaa was droning up after taking his 4th, didn't know hyvaa made another 2 rounds of lings and lurks, basically. The real mistake Bisu made was losing his 3rd too because he shifted his main army to save his 4th. he should ahve let his 4th die, knowing then he'd be playing steady 3 base vs a low eco 4 base zerg


07:28 Bisu scouts with corsairs 4th and 3rd
07:39 he sees tons of lings
9:00 he starts to pressure natural with all his forces leaving his third with 1 ht and 3 canons completely open to any counter attack from hyvaas 3rd
9;40 Bisu leaves 4th with entire forces trying to rescue his 3rd and leaving his 4th with 1ht and 3 canoons completely open to any counter attack from hyvaas natural

this is how i see it, he just was not ready for counterattacks and Hyvaa used it perfectly
sviatoslavrichter
Profile Joined January 2012
United States164 Posts
January 06 2012 17:06 GMT
#242
On January 07 2012 01:57 George_the_man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 01:44 sviatoslavrichter wrote:
On January 07 2012 01:37 George_the_man wrote:
On January 07 2012 01:07 sviatoslavrichter wrote:
On January 07 2012 00:59 George_the_man wrote:
On January 07 2012 00:56 sviatoslavrichter wrote:
On January 07 2012 00:48 Kiett wrote:
On January 07 2012 00:43 sviatoslavrichter wrote:
On January 07 2012 00:39 Kiett wrote:
On January 06 2012 18:32 aupstar wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 05 2012 15:17 BLinD-RawR wrote:
[image loading]
maybe I will make a few more banners for hype,otherwise I'll secretly swap some of disciple's work.
(P)Bisu:Come at me bro!
(T)Flash:meh whatever..



It's funny you say that given Bisu's the only one that was whining about being in the group of death created by hydra (i.e., flash, jaedong, bisu, sea).

I'd hardly think Bisu would try to instigate Flash in any way.


I don't think the group of death would have been a big problem at all, except due to the group placings, Bisu never even got to play Jaedong once T_T if Flash and Jaedong had been switched in position, I think Bisu could have advanced. Not to say that playing Jaedong is auto win or anything, but its a hell of a lot better than playing flash twice. He got the worst luck that MSL...


Naw, he got the worst luck that OSL when he had to play Hyvaa.

j/k <3


Oh, you mean that one OSL where Bisu plays Hyvaa and rips through him 2-0 and then... gets eliminated from the group stages by Effort and Leta.

Sigh.


No I meant the ODT where Bisu decides to double expand on La Mancha because he thinks his opponent is rushing heavy eco off 4 base, and then gets eliminated because Hyvaa went for a low-eco heavy gas defiler timing, lol


i liked the unedited version more anyway link that game plz?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdfQRLeEn28&feature=player_embedded

All three games here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10034371


aww Bisu so sad after that game if he wasnt in SKT ...
thanks for link imo he lost cause of bad army positioning thanks to he lost 3rd and 4th base but whatever


He thought Hyvaa was droning up after taking his 4th, didn't know hyvaa made another 2 rounds of lings and lurks, basically. The real mistake Bisu made was losing his 3rd too because he shifted his main army to save his 4th. he should ahve let his 4th die, knowing then he'd be playing steady 3 base vs a low eco 4 base zerg


07:28 Bisu scouts with corsairs 4th and 3rd
07:39 he sees tons of lings
9:00 he starts to pressure natural with all his forces leaving his third with 1 ht and 3 canons completely open to any counter attack from hyvaas 3rd
9;40 Bisu leaves 4th with entire forces trying to rescue his 3rd and leaving his 4th with 1ht and 3 canoons completely open to any counter attack from hyvaas natural

this is how i see it, he just was not ready for counterattacks and Hyvaa used it perfectly


Yep, it's like boxing... 1 punch to the left, one punch to the right. Each blow opens up a hole for the next one
It is easy to lead a successful life, but hard to lead a meaningful one.
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
January 06 2012 17:09 GMT
#243
o.O Guys, let's not get carried away like the CJ fans (who invariably overhyped their players wayyyy over the top... like always...).. Stats' an all-rounded player, who excels at vP, vZ and vT equally.. That is also to say that his vT is nowhere near top-notch or S-class.. SKT Tosses, or Samsung Almighty Commanding Twin Cannon are (much?) better that Stats, me thinks.
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
January 06 2012 17:19 GMT
#244
On January 07 2012 02:09 ffreakk wrote:
o.O Guys, let's not get carried away like the CJ fans (who invariably overhyped their players wayyyy over the top... like always...).. Stats' an all-rounded player, who excels at vP, vZ and vT equally.. That is also to say that his vT is nowhere near top-notch or S-class.. SKT Tosses, or Samsung Almighty Commanding Twin Cannon are (much?) better that Stats, me thinks.


Come on give them a break, those CJ fans have the right to overhype their players, and we have the right to overhype our players too, because it's fun. In the other hand KT fans shouldn't be allowed to overhype their players since it's boring <3<3
Khassar de Templari
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 06 2012 17:19 GMT
#245
I wouldn't put Best above Stats, Bisu sure, but Best?hmm not sure, I'd say they are about equal(Best his vZ has been looking strong as of late though).
WriterXiao8~~
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
January 06 2012 17:21 GMT
#246
On January 07 2012 02:19 Kipsate wrote:
I wouldn't put Best above Stats, Bisu sure, but Best?hmm not sure, I'd say they are about equal(Best his vZ has been looking strong as of late though).


Im talking exclusively about vT, where i think BeSt is better than Stats.
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
January 06 2012 17:41 GMT
#247
On January 07 2012 02:06 sviatoslavrichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 01:57 George_the_man wrote:
On January 07 2012 01:44 sviatoslavrichter wrote:
On January 07 2012 01:37 George_the_man wrote:
On January 07 2012 01:07 sviatoslavrichter wrote:
On January 07 2012 00:59 George_the_man wrote:
On January 07 2012 00:56 sviatoslavrichter wrote:
On January 07 2012 00:48 Kiett wrote:
On January 07 2012 00:43 sviatoslavrichter wrote:
On January 07 2012 00:39 Kiett wrote:
[quote]

I don't think the group of death would have been a big problem at all, except due to the group placings, Bisu never even got to play Jaedong once T_T if Flash and Jaedong had been switched in position, I think Bisu could have advanced. Not to say that playing Jaedong is auto win or anything, but its a hell of a lot better than playing flash twice. He got the worst luck that MSL...


Naw, he got the worst luck that OSL when he had to play Hyvaa.

j/k <3


Oh, you mean that one OSL where Bisu plays Hyvaa and rips through him 2-0 and then... gets eliminated from the group stages by Effort and Leta.

Sigh.


No I meant the ODT where Bisu decides to double expand on La Mancha because he thinks his opponent is rushing heavy eco off 4 base, and then gets eliminated because Hyvaa went for a low-eco heavy gas defiler timing, lol


i liked the unedited version more anyway link that game plz?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdfQRLeEn28&feature=player_embedded

All three games here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10034371


aww Bisu so sad after that game if he wasnt in SKT ...
thanks for link imo he lost cause of bad army positioning thanks to he lost 3rd and 4th base but whatever


He thought Hyvaa was droning up after taking his 4th, didn't know hyvaa made another 2 rounds of lings and lurks, basically. The real mistake Bisu made was losing his 3rd too because he shifted his main army to save his 4th. he should ahve let his 4th die, knowing then he'd be playing steady 3 base vs a low eco 4 base zerg


07:28 Bisu scouts with corsairs 4th and 3rd
07:39 he sees tons of lings
9:00 he starts to pressure natural with all his forces leaving his third with 1 ht and 3 canons completely open to any counter attack from hyvaas 3rd
9;40 Bisu leaves 4th with entire forces trying to rescue his 3rd and leaving his 4th with 1ht and 3 canoons completely open to any counter attack from hyvaas natural

this is how i see it, he just was not ready for counterattacks and Hyvaa used it perfectly


Yep, it's like boxing... 1 punch to the left, one punch to the right. Each blow opens up a hole for the next one


If only boxing were that simple >_>
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saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
January 06 2012 17:57 GMT
#248
On January 07 2012 02:19 kamikami wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 02:09 ffreakk wrote:
o.O Guys, let's not get carried away like the CJ fans (who invariably overhyped their players wayyyy over the top... like always...).. Stats' an all-rounded player, who excels at vP, vZ and vT equally.. That is also to say that his vT is nowhere near top-notch or S-class.. SKT Tosses, or Samsung Almighty Commanding Twin Cannon are (much?) better that Stats, me thinks.


Come on give them a break, those CJ fans have the right to overhype their players, and we have the right to overhype our players too, because it's fun. In the other hand KT fans shouldn't be allowed to overhype their players since it's boring <3<3


hyping your players is fine, as long its not to the point of arrogance and ignorance
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3513 Posts
January 06 2012 18:15 GMT
#249
Hype hype hype -- hoping for a good game today between Flash and one of FBB! =D
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51117 Posts
January 06 2012 18:45 GMT
#250
KT will win.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
January 06 2012 19:02 GMT
#251
On January 07 2012 02:57 saltywet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 02:19 kamikami wrote:
On January 07 2012 02:09 ffreakk wrote:
o.O Guys, let's not get carried away like the CJ fans (who invariably overhyped their players wayyyy over the top... like always...).. Stats' an all-rounded player, who excels at vP, vZ and vT equally.. That is also to say that his vT is nowhere near top-notch or S-class.. SKT Tosses, or Samsung Almighty Commanding Twin Cannon are (much?) better that Stats, me thinks.


Come on give them a break, those CJ fans have the right to overhype their players, and we have the right to overhype our players too, because it's fun. In the other hand KT fans shouldn't be allowed to overhype their players since it's boring <3<3


hyping your players is fine, as long its not to the point of arrogance and ignorance


But what's the point of hype if we have to be all reasonable about it :[
Writer:o
Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-07 04:42:32
January 06 2012 19:14 GMT
#252

'Do you remember the War last year, my dear?' I would ask
'Oh, what are you talking about?' You would wonder.
'Here, have a seat, let me tell you about the War to slay God, my dear' I would reply.

Journeying through the sacred lands of Proleagueistan, the valiant warriors of SK Telecom crushed many a challenger
And earned their right to sit on top of the BroodWar Pantheon, waiting for their last battle against the ultimate weapon.
Eternities seemed to pass until an army lead by none other than God himself would show at their gates.

Whittled down to the last man, Telecom T1 sent out their last hurrah, the Paewang King BeSt himself, wielding his Blade
Of Hope that had brought down God in yonder times. Little did he know he was destined to fall from the beginning,
Offering his slain body as a sacrifice, to be reborn as the fabled Dragon who shall bring down the Bonjwa of Bonjwas.
KING BESTORAH RISES FROM THE FALLEN BONES OF HIS PAEWANG SELF


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If i misspelled his name i'll scream at a puppy >_<


なまいきになんなよ~ Don't be too stakka~ ☆ SKT Harlequin ☆ n.Die_soO Hoppin You ♪ 愛 am BeSt ♪ ワイフ♥小早川りんこ
Moridin
Profile Joined December 2009
Bulgaria167 Posts
January 06 2012 19:16 GMT
#253
Stats is better at PvP compared to Bisu and Best. Bisu is the only one with better PvZ and I think just Best and Stork have better PvT. Also I really enjoy playing against SKT and CJ because their fans are always so confident and man I like reading after the game how they wouldn't have been crushed like bugs if only...
It's about time.
kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
January 06 2012 19:32 GMT
#254
On January 07 2012 04:16 Moridin wrote:
Stats is better at PvP compared to Bisu and Best. Bisu is the only one with better PvZ and I think just Best and Stork have better PvT. Also I really enjoy playing against SKT and CJ because their fans are always so confident and man I like reading after the game how they wouldn't have been crushed like bugs if only...


Yeah I really enjoyed seeing your team being "crushed like bugs" the last time we met =)), also you should read the whole thread before posting since we are not over-confident at all, we were discussing whether KT is OP several pages before this page ^^.
Khassar de Templari
George_the_man
Profile Joined May 2011
796 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 19:34:49
January 06 2012 19:33 GMT
#255
On January 07 2012 04:16 Moridin wrote:
Stats is better at PvP compared to Bisu and Best. Bisu is the only one with better PvZ and I think just Best and Stork have better PvT. Also I really enjoy playing against SKT and CJ because their fans are always so confident and man I like reading after the game how they wouldn't have been crushed like bugs if only...


haha yeah reading first pages of like last PL finals was insane :D u could have expected they got lesson to never underestimate KT but no... SKT fans are invincible
edit: no kami... only ure discussing that , some people tried to find where did u take that stuff from , others just ignoring , i was asking what did u take
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 19:41:02
January 06 2012 19:34 GMT
#256
On January 07 2012 04:16 Moridin wrote:
Stats is better at PvP compared to Bisu and Best. Bisu is the only one with better PvZ and I think just Best and Stork have better PvT. Also I really enjoy playing against SKT and CJ because their fans are always so confident and man I like reading after the game how they wouldn't have been crushed like bugs if only...


U mean you don't think that Jangbi has better vT that Stats? o.O
I can summon my highest level of understanding and somehow try to understand how you would rate Bisu below Stats vT due to his bad history (not that i agree with any of it, i mean look at the >80% win-rate over the WHOLE of the last season, and his vT ELO!).. But Jangbi ... Recently pwned both Flash n Fantasy in BoX.. or something =/

I ll concede that we faltered last Grand Finals.. But in our most recent meetings, it wasn't us who got crushed.. like bugs.

Well, no point wasting saliva here when the Glorious Champions of SKT will help me do the talking w their mouse n keyboard tomorrow :3
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
George_the_man
Profile Joined May 2011
796 Posts
January 06 2012 19:43 GMT
#257
meetings? it was just one game and we didnt get crushed... that series was really close , Hoejja was ahead and if he won Flash would deliver win for us in set 5th.. but sure we were crushed like bugs.. whatever u say. just hope u will be very dissapointed in several hours
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
January 06 2012 19:56 GMT
#258
I think it's funny that theres 13 pages of hype in the SKT/KT LR thread before the match begins
and with 9 hours to go there is still no LR thread for the T8/Ace match lol
jaedong imba
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
January 06 2012 20:05 GMT
#259
10 8 ---> 1 kekeke?
Moridin
Profile Joined December 2009
Bulgaria167 Posts
January 06 2012 20:10 GMT
#260
On January 07 2012 04:34 ffreakk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 04:16 Moridin wrote:
Stats is better at PvP compared to Bisu and Best. Bisu is the only one with better PvZ and I think just Best and Stork have better PvT. Also I really enjoy playing against SKT and CJ because their fans are always so confident and man I like reading after the game how they wouldn't have been crushed like bugs if only...


U mean you don't think that Jangbi has better vT that Stats? o.O
I can summon my highest level of understanding and somehow try to understand how you would rate Bisu below Stats vT due to his bad history (not that i agree with any of it, i mean look at the >80% win-rate over the WHOLE of the last season, and his vT ELO!).. But Jangbi ... Recently pwned both Flash n Fantasy in BoX.. or something =/

I ll concede that we faltered last Grand Finals.. But in our most recent meetings, it wasn't us who got crushed.. like bugs.

Well, no point wasting saliva here when the Glorious Champions of SKT will help me do the talking w their mouse n keyboard tomorrow :3


My bad Jangbi is in the gang with Best, Stork and maybe someone else I'm missing (not Bisu though his PvT is really good but that's it). Unfortunately Stats PvT is his weakest match currently, I watched him against Sea(L) and Bogus(W): he takes the upper hand and than just does not know how exactly to continue. Hope he can get the ability to increase his advantage throughout the game like Flash do - you just know that if Flash has the advantage at one point he is going to build on it.
It's about time.
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