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Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
January 03 2012 11:57 GMT
#441
On January 03 2012 20:54 Emon_ wrote:
CJ so meta they're losing games on purpose


i thought only Flash does that so they can win PL :o
なまいきになんなよ~ Don't be too stakka~ ☆ SKT Harlequin ☆ n.Die_soO Hoppin You ♪ 愛 am BeSt ♪ ワイフ♥小早川りんこ
Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
January 03 2012 11:57 GMT
#442
Nice move by Best to just go pure zealots in the end - maybe I haven't watched enough lategame PvZ recently, but it seems that Protoss players rarely do that so it caught Hydra a bit off guard, wasting his resources on tech.
AIV_Funnytoss and sGs.Funnytoss on iCCup
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
January 03 2012 11:57 GMT
#443
On January 03 2012 20:53 NguN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2012 20:51 Dakkas wrote:
On January 03 2012 20:51 NguN wrote:
Wow, Best is pretty good at PvZ now? oO


Well being on the same team as Bisu has to eventually pay off?

Can't believe what I'm watching, BeSt MANhandled Hydra!!!


Waiting for Bisu to be good at PvT <.<

Seriously, I don't understand PvZ anymore. Bisu destroys Zergs despite they being on 4 base and him 2 base, Best owning it up, Kal beating Zero in a PvZ. What the hell?!


I don't get why people say that, right now his vT is his second best match-up. Yes I'm aware that it used to be his worst but it has changed and vP is his worst.
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
January 03 2012 11:57 GMT
#444
On January 03 2012 20:56 TheKefka wrote:
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On January 03 2012 20:55 gngfn wrote:
On January 03 2012 20:53 o[twist] wrote:
On January 03 2012 20:53 R!! wrote:
Wasn't that a little bit too easy?All I saw was some corsairs uncontestedly supply blocking hydra to oblivion and that was pretty much game. TT


it started with the dt drop which hydra didn't deal with all that well

It started with Hydra voluntarily forcing a battle between mutalisks and corsairs.

And not splitting his mutalisks at all during this battle.

Hydra S-class player 3 gold medals 2012

Erm,he actually killed off every corsair on the map adn a canon with half the probe line didn't he?
BeSt came back with the Zealot harass and Ninjas tho.

He killed every corsair (like four) and maybe five probes before another corsair popped out and drove away the three remaining red health mutalisks. Worth it!
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
January 03 2012 11:58 GMT
#445
On January 03 2012 20:57 Vuk_91 wrote:
Zergs should really try to find some new strategy other than 3hatch spire->5hatch hydra. It seems to me like it doesn`t work anymore.

the only games i see zergs win in zvp are through hydra busts :S
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
January 03 2012 11:58 GMT
#446
On January 03 2012 20:55 gngfn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2012 20:53 o[twist] wrote:
On January 03 2012 20:53 R!! wrote:
Wasn't that a little bit too easy?All I saw was some corsairs uncontestedly supply blocking hydra to oblivion and that was pretty much game. TT


it started with the dt drop which hydra didn't deal with all that well

It started with Hydra voluntarily forcing a battle between mutalisks and corsairs.

And not splitting his mutalisks at all during this battle.

Hydra S-class player 3 gold medals 2012


i think that engagement made sense. at least from hydra's perspective. best had to pull probes out of his base and he was out of corsairs for a bit.
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
January 03 2012 11:58 GMT
#447
On January 03 2012 20:56 RelZo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2012 20:54 Emon_ wrote:
CJ so meta they're losing games on purpose

hahaha

Anyway, I don't think Best's PvZ is as good as some ppl say...it's just that the zergs he plays either make stupid mistakes like bad simcity (right Jaedong?) or play poorly (hi Hydra)


I don't think his PvZ is amazing or anything, but it's definitely worlds better than it used to be. I think that's why most people are making a big deal about it.
~
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
January 03 2012 11:58 GMT
#448
(T)sKyHigh vs (T)Fantasy

:o
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3156 Posts
January 03 2012 11:58 GMT
#449
On January 03 2012 20:57 Vuk_91 wrote:
Zergs should really try to find some new strategy other than 3hatch spire->5hatch hydra. It seems to me like it doesn`t work anymore.

yeah they should go for more muta-scourge timing attacks
Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
January 03 2012 11:59 GMT
#450
On January 03 2012 20:57 Motivate wrote:
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On January 03 2012 20:56 Shurayuki wrote:
On January 03 2012 20:54 Motivate wrote:
On January 03 2012 20:53 PineappleLumpsToss wrote:
BeSt is going to be a beast this season if he continues to show these sorts of performances in PvZ.

Lol, look at him bouncing around....pleased much?

that's exactly why i hate best D: always doing cutesy shit like that


how dare anybody be happy winning, preposterous! ;P

haha i guess you're right

but some humility on best's behalf would be good every once in a while


did you even read his doorbell interview, i was actually close to tearing up it was so depressing really.

i think we often underestimate the pressure on these guys - most still children to boot - playing live
なまいきになんなよ~ Don't be too stakka~ ☆ SKT Harlequin ☆ n.Die_soO Hoppin You ♪ 愛 am BeSt ♪ ワイフ♥小早川りんこ
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
January 03 2012 11:59 GMT
#451
On January 03 2012 20:58 Lachrymose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2012 20:56 RelZo wrote:
On January 03 2012 20:54 Emon_ wrote:
CJ so meta they're losing games on purpose

hahaha

Anyway, I don't think Best's PvZ is as good as some ppl say...it's just that the zergs he plays either make stupid mistakes like bad simcity (right Jaedong?) or play poorly (hi Hydra)


I don't think his PvZ is amazing or anything, but it's definitely worlds better than it used to be. I think that's why most people are making a big deal about it.


this is the guy who was supposed to be dethroning flash and then lost 0-3 to a rather over the hill julyzerg
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
January 03 2012 11:59 GMT
#452
Hydra should've won that game after he held off Best's attack, Best just got really lucky that Hydra decided to not make any more Lurkers to buffer the Zealots ..
Writerptrk
Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
January 03 2012 11:59 GMT
#453
can someone tell me why there is no english stream for this? (or flame me if i am blind)
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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
January 03 2012 12:00 GMT
#454
On January 03 2012 20:58 Grettin wrote:
(T)sKyHigh vs (T)Fantasy

:o


Do it sky high !!!!

BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
January 03 2012 12:00 GMT
#455
On January 03 2012 20:58 o[twist] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2012 20:55 gngfn wrote:
On January 03 2012 20:53 o[twist] wrote:
On January 03 2012 20:53 R!! wrote:
Wasn't that a little bit too easy?All I saw was some corsairs uncontestedly supply blocking hydra to oblivion and that was pretty much game. TT


it started with the dt drop which hydra didn't deal with all that well

It started with Hydra voluntarily forcing a battle between mutalisks and corsairs.

And not splitting his mutalisks at all during this battle.

Hydra S-class player 3 gold medals 2012


i think that engagement made sense. at least from hydra's perspective. best had to pull probes out of his base and he was out of corsairs for a bit.

I don't care how much sense it made, although I disagree that it was a good choice at all. The point is that if your strategy revolves around mutalisks vs. corsairs and you don't split your mutalisks, you're a bad player. But Hydra proved that anyway when he played the role of the six-month-old during Best's game of DT Peekaboo.
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
January 03 2012 12:00 GMT
#456
Wake up and Hydra<Best, depressing.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
January 03 2012 12:00 GMT
#457
great game by best and a very nice victory, but lets be honest here, hydra was not on his A-game today. the misclick with the drones in the beginning, the poor reaction to the dt harass, the wasted mutas, swarm vs mass zealots, during one of the final battles he had the rallypoint of his newly spawned defilers towards bests army...

"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Abort Retry Fail
Profile Joined December 2011
2636 Posts
January 03 2012 12:00 GMT
#458
can we also have an official translator for these interviews! i really think they are important for the fans to know what they are saying
BSOD
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
January 03 2012 12:00 GMT
#459
On January 03 2012 20:59 ArvickHero wrote:
Hydra should've won that game after he held off Best's attack, Best just got really lucky that Hydra decided to not make any more Lurkers to buffer the Zealots ..


He couldn't because he was constantly making new overlords
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
January 03 2012 12:00 GMT
#460
On January 03 2012 20:59 Swiv wrote:
can someone tell me why there is no english stream for this? (or flame me if i am blind)


i can't remember the last time i saw one, not that they're worth watching over korean streams
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
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