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LittLeLives
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States692 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 08:34:45
December 28 2011 08:33 GMT
#801
On December 28 2011 17:26 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 17:22 LittLeLives wrote:
On December 28 2011 17:17 o[twist] wrote:
On December 28 2011 17:15 The Final Boss wrote:
On December 28 2011 17:13 LittLeLives wrote:
On December 28 2011 17:07 Scarecrow wrote:
On December 28 2011 17:05 Vuk_91 wrote:
On December 28 2011 17:03 tryummm wrote:
On December 28 2011 17:03 Vuk_91 wrote:
On December 28 2011 17:01 Winechu wrote:
[quote]

LOL

You do realize that Last would have been anally raped if Flash was sent this game?

No he wouldn't have...look at Last's interview on Fomos.

So...If I say in a interview for Eurosport that I would beat Roger Federer,does that mean that I really would?

If it takes Last this long to put Mind away, I doubt his fearsome 55ish% TvT would be a problem for flash. Flash is favoured over everyone on STX by a significant margin.

Last has already stated that he prefers a style of play where he starves his opponent. Him playing drawn out games is his style and he's playing to his strength.

I don't agree he's Flash level yet, though, but we haven't seen a long set between them so...
I also feel all that matters is recent statistics and right now, from this season Last is 2-0 against pretty damn decent Terrans. Even if people say Mind is slumping right now. He's 7-3 this year, playing only one set against Flash and losing.

Against, not saying I agree with his own assessment of himself from his interview, but I don't like conversations that don't understand where the other side is coming from.

But, but... it's Flash we're talking about. Last is looking great and all, but Flash.


this guy isn't serious. in the last stx match he started randomly insulting baby out of nowhere. for some reason he's got a huge boner for last and insists on deflating other players to make last better in comparison

nobody denies last has played well. not so much in this game we just watched, but definitely against fantasy

I've never even heard of Last before last week; I had only restarted watching SPL this season.
I was never a fan of Baby, true, I feel he has a cocky attitude that needs discipline. I already stated I don't like one-sided arguments. Also, ad-hominem much?

He's just trying to explain why someone would ever prefer an STX Terran to Flash. Informal fallacies basically always have a logically sound analog. Not every statement about someone is an ad hominem.

For instance, you might characterize this as a tu quoque fallacy, but to me it's a simple exposure of hypocrisy: you accused twist of ad hominem while you say things in a similar vein multiple times about Baby.

He tried to discredit my argument because apparently I have a boner for Baby, isn't that what ad hominem is? I'm being sincere here as I really might be misusing the term. I never discredited anything about Baby, I have nothing to take away from him.
In the last thread, I was concerned , in exaggerated hyped-up passion, with why people were perfectly okay with Baby taking the time to make 25+ starports as an in-game ceremony when, to my non-progamer eye, he too could have had finished the game much sooner, but people hate on Last for "taking a long time".

I already stated I don't prefer an either Bogus or Last to Flash. That doesn't mean the view is completely unjustified or unreasonable as the original poster in this long quote/reply session stated.
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
December 28 2011 08:33 GMT
#802
yeah come on guys. let's bash each other and not the players.
George_the_man
Profile Joined May 2011
796 Posts
December 28 2011 08:33 GMT
#803
televised matches not always go like games played during practise.
If progamers said CH is ZvZ specialist than he is , and netizens (haters) opinion is worth less than shit here
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
December 28 2011 08:34 GMT
#804
On December 28 2011 17:33 Legatus Lanius wrote:
i just dont live in a fantasy land where CH is a zvz specialist and his other matchups arent bad

lol.



Does anyone have a link to Flash's intro music?
I heard it from his last game and it was pretty epic.
Lee Ssang/ Lee Shin/ Kim Jung Woo/ Kim Min Chul/Jun Tae Yang/Park Soo Ho/Lee Jung Hoon/Choi Sung Hoon/ Moon Sung Won/Park Ji Soo/ Lee Ho Joon/ Jang Min Chul/ Kim Seung Chul/SaSe/IdrA/Ret Fighting! BW4Life
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
December 28 2011 08:34 GMT
#805
On December 28 2011 17:32 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 17:27 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On December 28 2011 17:24 Iplaythings wrote:
On December 28 2011 17:21 Legatus Lanius wrote:
CH isnt a zvz specialist, he just sucks at zvt and zvp

Are you trolling or are you just here to bash players?


im just stating the truth



You'd think you'd understand after getting reprimanded so many times, but I guess not.

You're really rude and obnoxious.


He's like a non-CJ version of SuperArc. At least SuperArc was sometimes funny.
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
December 28 2011 08:34 GMT
#806
On December 28 2011 17:32 Motivate wrote:
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On December 28 2011 17:28 cmen15 wrote:
gg I thought the last battle would look cooler then that : ( there was like no micro lol

yeah in zvz once it gets to like 40 supply there is no micro in the muta battles

It's a shame cus muta vs muta (and scourge reinforcements) action looks more intense and interesting to me than a-move muta micro :p
In the woods, there lurks..
Tippereth
Profile Joined December 2009
United States252 Posts
December 28 2011 08:34 GMT
#807
On December 28 2011 17:32 Motivate wrote:
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On December 28 2011 17:28 cmen15 wrote:
gg I thought the last battle would look cooler then that : ( there was like no micro lol

yeah in zvz once it gets to like 40 supply there is no micro in the muta battles

Or worse you pull a Jaedong and let your opponent get in multiple hits on your mutas that aren't attacking back and are just running. Yes, I am sad.
Winechu
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1186 Posts
December 28 2011 08:35 GMT
#808
On December 28 2011 17:33 Legatus Lanius wrote:
i just dont live in a fantasy land where CH is a zvz specialist and his other matchups arent bad


You don't get it do you. Even if his other MU's are bad it doesn't make CH any less of a vZ specialist, which he happens to be. Even if you don't take my word for it you should read some interviews which explicitly state that.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
December 28 2011 08:36 GMT
#809
On December 28 2011 17:34 jjhchsc2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 17:33 Legatus Lanius wrote:
i just dont live in a fantasy land where CH is a zvz specialist and his other matchups arent bad

lol.



Does anyone have a link to Flash's intro music?
I heard it from his last game and it was pretty epic.

It was linkd somewhere in this thread
In the woods, there lurks..
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
December 28 2011 08:36 GMT
#810
On December 28 2011 17:35 Winechu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 17:33 Legatus Lanius wrote:
i just dont live in a fantasy land where CH is a zvz specialist and his other matchups arent bad


You don't get it do you. Even if his other MU's are bad it doesn't make CH any less of a vZ specialist, which he happens to be. Even if you don't take my word for it you should read some interviews which explicitly state that.


ok sorry, youre right. i guess hes just not a very good zvz specialist
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50898 Posts
December 28 2011 08:36 GMT
#811
the fuck?

Last played like a true connisuer(I don't even know the spelling) of TvT.

he could have beaten flash.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
December 28 2011 08:36 GMT
#812
On December 28 2011 17:36 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 17:34 jjhchsc2 wrote:
On December 28 2011 17:33 Legatus Lanius wrote:
i just dont live in a fantasy land where CH is a zvz specialist and his other matchups arent bad

lol.



Does anyone have a link to Flash's intro music?
I heard it from his last game and it was pretty epic.

It was linkd somewhere in this thread


I linked it before set 2



There it is again
Hyvaa #1 Fan. Gogo STX, Dear, Bogus, Classic, and Mini! Always a BW fan!
Winechu
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1186 Posts
December 28 2011 08:36 GMT
#813
On December 28 2011 17:36 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 17:34 jjhchsc2 wrote:
On December 28 2011 17:33 Legatus Lanius wrote:
i just dont live in a fantasy land where CH is a zvz specialist and his other matchups arent bad

lol.



Does anyone have a link to Flash's intro music?
I heard it from his last game and it was pretty epic.

It was linkd somewhere in this thread


Yeah, it's posted in the thread. It's "Electric Romeo - Immediate Music".
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
December 28 2011 08:37 GMT
#814
On December 28 2011 17:33 Legatus Lanius wrote:
i just dont live in a fantasy land where CH is a zvz specialist and his other matchups arent bad


The fantasy world where Zero and Soulkey specifically credited CH for making their ZvZ better.
Remember Violet.
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
December 28 2011 08:37 GMT
#815
I REFUSE TO TRANSLATE FOR SOMEONE WHO DEFEATED MY CALMMMMM
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TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
December 28 2011 08:37 GMT
#816
On December 28 2011 17:36 Legatus Lanius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 17:35 Winechu wrote:
On December 28 2011 17:33 Legatus Lanius wrote:
i just dont live in a fantasy land where CH is a zvz specialist and his other matchups arent bad


You don't get it do you. Even if his other MU's are bad it doesn't make CH any less of a vZ specialist, which he happens to be. Even if you don't take my word for it you should read some interviews which explicitly state that.


ok sorry, youre right. i guess hes just not a very good zvz specialist


Wish I was a troll..
Hyvaa #1 Fan. Gogo STX, Dear, Bogus, Classic, and Mini! Always a BW fan!
LittLeLives
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States692 Posts
December 28 2011 08:37 GMT
#817
On December 28 2011 17:36 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 17:34 jjhchsc2 wrote:
On December 28 2011 17:33 Legatus Lanius wrote:
i just dont live in a fantasy land where CH is a zvz specialist and his other matchups arent bad

lol.



Does anyone have a link to Flash's intro music?
I heard it from his last game and it was pretty epic.

It was linkd somewhere in this thread


There's another name for the song, but I'm pretty sure Flash uses the instrumental version regardless.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50898 Posts
December 28 2011 08:37 GMT
#818
On December 28 2011 17:34 endy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 17:32 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 28 2011 17:27 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On December 28 2011 17:24 Iplaythings wrote:
On December 28 2011 17:21 Legatus Lanius wrote:
CH isnt a zvz specialist, he just sucks at zvt and zvp

Are you trolling or are you just here to bash players?


im just stating the truth



You'd think you'd understand after getting reprimanded so many times, but I guess not.

You're really rude and obnoxious.


He's like a non-CJ version of SuperArc. At least SuperArc was sometimes funny.


oddly enough I only see him in threads where KT is playing.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 08:38:41
December 28 2011 08:38 GMT
#819
Reason why I called CH a ZvZ specialist because he said it him self taken from this thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=218254&currentpage=2#25


Crazy-Hydra: I'm always confident in my ZvZ


CH: I was the "ZvZ specialist" back in Woongjin. Having transferred to KT, I felt pressured to do well in all three matchups. However, the head coach (Jihoon Lee) told me that his biggest expectations was in my ZvZ - so I felt determined to do well in ZvZ no matter what. To be honest, I was a little disappointed because I wanted to play against other races. I don't believe that my skills in terms of other matchups have been tested, and I want to see where I stand against other players.
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 08:39:17
December 28 2011 08:38 GMT
#820
On December 28 2011 17:36 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 17:34 jjhchsc2 wrote:
On December 28 2011 17:33 Legatus Lanius wrote:
i just dont live in a fantasy land where CH is a zvz specialist and his other matchups arent bad

lol.



Does anyone have a link to Flash's intro music?
I heard it from his last game and it was pretty epic.

It was linkd somewhere in this thread


o god is it somewhere in the last vs mind TvT LR?
LOL time to go searching.


Edit thanks ^^^^
littleLives
Lee Ssang/ Lee Shin/ Kim Jung Woo/ Kim Min Chul/Jun Tae Yang/Park Soo Ho/Lee Jung Hoon/Choi Sung Hoon/ Moon Sung Won/Park Ji Soo/ Lee Ho Joon/ Jang Min Chul/ Kim Seung Chul/SaSe/IdrA/Ret Fighting! BW4Life
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