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Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
December 20 2011 07:54 GMT
#341
On December 20 2011 16:53 PurePwnageofTerran wrote:
Thats two games in a row weve seen pure rageage. Can we get a good game please? Maybe Best vs FirebatHero, that would make my day.

LOL best would just do his typical build 20 gateways and 1a2a3a macro mode to victory. who needs storms?
Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
December 20 2011 07:54 GMT
#342
On December 20 2011 16:51 Motivate wrote:
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On December 20 2011 16:50 TheKefka wrote:
On December 20 2011 16:49 Motivate wrote:
i hate it when protoss wins a pvz X_X

And hydra busts are real entertaining to watch >.>

idk man, i kind of like seeing dumb protosses like best and snow who can't pvz for shiz get hydra busted

only protoss players i like are horang2 and stats tbh... i think i just hate protoss in general


a that's not even true

b lol jangbi in playoffs xp

c it's still really cheap and not very exciting to watch...i mean nothing happens

at least stork makes like reavers and puts up a ridiculous fight...but really i dunno, i prefer silly early pools
なまいきになんなよ~ Don't be too stakka~ ☆ SKT Harlequin ☆ n.Die_soO Hoppin You ♪ 愛 am BeSt ♪ ワイフ♥小早川りんこ
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
December 20 2011 07:54 GMT
#343
On December 20 2011 16:51 tryummm wrote:
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On December 20 2011 16:48 gngfn wrote:
Hive tech
No lurkers
...
OK, Great.


Lurkers wouldn't have helped and Great got a Hive. The problem is there is no way to get Hive tech out less than 13 minutes into the game, especially when opening with a 4 Hatch Hydralisk break opening and maintaining a strong enough economy to do anything while being able to hold off the initial speedlots after the Hydralisk break.

Now, if Great went for Lurkers he wouldn't have had any units to accompany them and the Dragoons would have ran him over. The only shot Great had was to snipe the HT with his Mutalisks, but he was unable to do that and because of that he didn't have enough Hydralisks to stop the attack.


No units to accompany them, except maybe the 3-4 control group hydra army he had on hand?
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
December 20 2011 07:54 GMT
#344
On December 20 2011 16:51 tryummm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 16:48 gngfn wrote:
Hive tech
No lurkers
...
OK, Great.


Lurkers wouldn't have helped and Great got a Hive. The problem is there is no way to get Hive tech out less than 13 minutes into the game, especially when opening with a 3 Hatch Hydralisk break opening and maintaining a strong enough economy to do anything while being able to hold off the initial speedlots after the Hydralisk break.

Now, if Great went for Lurkers he wouldn't have had any units to accompany them and the Dragoons would have ran him over. The only shot Great had was to snipe the HT with his Mutalisks, but he was unable to do that and because of that he didn't have enough Hydralisks to stop the attack.

Basically .. this game is one of many good examples why 3 hatch hydra is not a strong stable build to open with.
Writerptrk
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 07:57:17
December 20 2011 07:54 GMT
#345
that wasn't fantasy gg timing

fantasy gg timing would be losing main and all expos except 12 o clock, and as bisu proceeds to destroy it, great, who somehow saved up 1k minerals starts expanding at 3 different areas while holding each off with 2-3 lurkers. bisu army proceeds to take down one by one, cancelling each hatch before destruction and rebuilding another hatch elsewhere. supply difference is now 150, great has 17 supply, but refusing to surrender. he starts harassing with 3 zergling at an undefended expansion and takes down a couple of probes before being beamed to death by them. with only 3 lurkers against 15 carriers and 5 scouts, great watches as his last hatchery goes down to 50 hp before typing out gg and being eliminated, but not before doing a spin with that drone that was building that last hatchery
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Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
December 20 2011 07:55 GMT
#346
On December 20 2011 16:54 Motivate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 16:53 PurePwnageofTerran wrote:
Thats two games in a row weve seen pure rageage. Can we get a good game please? Maybe Best vs FirebatHero, that would make my day.

LOL best would just do his typical build 20 gateways and 1a2a3a macro mode to victory. who needs storms?


yeah like the second to last time when FBh just attacked like 6min in...and...won? wtf was that best

of course he got his revenge
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TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
December 20 2011 07:55 GMT
#347
On December 20 2011 16:53 PurePwnageofTerran wrote:
Thats two games in a row weve seen pure rageage. Can we get a good game please? Maybe Best vs FirebatHero, that would make my day.



Fantasy VS Firebathero
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
December 20 2011 07:55 GMT
#348
hahahaha
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
jaQi
Profile Joined December 2010
1121 Posts
December 20 2011 07:57 GMT
#349
On December 20 2011 16:51 Bayyne wrote:
Am I wrong in thinking Great was in a good position that game?


Nah , there was a moment where it looks pretty well for great for me too. Before Bisu took his 3rd and had goons I thought great has enough mins and stuff to fight him, but he waited too long, Bisu build his 3, goons and temps and zlots went out and that is the moment where BvZ are usually decided ^^

Can't wait for set 3 .
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
December 20 2011 07:57 GMT
#350
On December 20 2011 16:55 Shurayuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 16:54 Motivate wrote:
On December 20 2011 16:53 PurePwnageofTerran wrote:
Thats two games in a row weve seen pure rageage. Can we get a good game please? Maybe Best vs FirebatHero, that would make my day.

LOL best would just do his typical build 20 gateways and 1a2a3a macro mode to victory. who needs storms?


yeah like the second to last time when FBh just attacked like 6min in...and...won? wtf was that best

of course he got his revenge

tbh that was more of best failing than fbh playing particularly well

fbh's tvp recently has been improving though (if you ignore that abysmal last performance). at least i hope it has been. not convinced with anyone else's tvp these days besides flash.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
December 20 2011 07:57 GMT
#351
I don't see how he could have prevented Bisu from taking a 3rd on that map... which is why he made a pressure expand
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
December 20 2011 07:58 GMT
#352
On December 20 2011 16:57 jaQi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 16:51 Bayyne wrote:
Am I wrong in thinking Great was in a good position that game?


Nah , there was a moment where it looks pretty well for great for me too. Before Bisu took his 3rd and had goons I thought great has enough mins and stuff to fight him, but he waited too long, Bisu build his 3, goons and temps and zlots went out and that is the moment where BvZ are usually decided ^^

Can't wait for set 3 .


If you wanna beat a toss like Bisu you've gotta deny that third longer. Otherwise his superior micro and macro are gonna overrun you no matter what advantage you seem to have for a moment.
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Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
December 20 2011 07:58 GMT
#353
"i dont feel like i played well at all"
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Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 07:59:09
December 20 2011 07:58 GMT
#354
What's Bisu saying?
Thanks Taekwon
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
December 20 2011 07:59 GMT
#355
Bisu so cute

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[V]
Profile Joined November 2011
United States905 Posts
December 20 2011 07:59 GMT
#356
What is Bisu saying in the interview?
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
December 20 2011 07:59 GMT
#357
bisu: "i think i won rather easily"
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Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
December 20 2011 07:59 GMT
#358
"I lost two hts because i wasnt looking at the minimap and I didnt know about the hidden expos...
i would've in a bad position if the game continued in his favor"
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Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
December 20 2011 07:59 GMT
#359
On December 20 2011 16:58 TheShimmy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 16:57 jaQi wrote:
On December 20 2011 16:51 Bayyne wrote:
Am I wrong in thinking Great was in a good position that game?


Nah , there was a moment where it looks pretty well for great for me too. Before Bisu took his 3rd and had goons I thought great has enough mins and stuff to fight him, but he waited too long, Bisu build his 3, goons and temps and zlots went out and that is the moment where BvZ are usually decided ^^

Can't wait for set 3 .


If you wanna beat a toss like Bisu you've gotta deny that third longer. Otherwise his superior micro and macro are gonna overrun you no matter what advantage you seem to have for a moment.


How do you deny the third when he gets it for free on this map lol?
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
December 20 2011 08:00 GMT
#360
bisu: "i just played and it went well"
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