On December 20 2011 16:53 PurePwnageofTerran wrote: Thats two games in a row weve seen pure rageage. Can we get a good game please? Maybe Best vs FirebatHero, that would make my day.
LOL best would just do his typical build 20 gateways and 1a2a3a macro mode to victory. who needs storms?
On December 20 2011 16:48 gngfn wrote: Hive tech No lurkers ... OK, Great.
Lurkers wouldn't have helped and Great got a Hive. The problem is there is no way to get Hive tech out less than 13 minutes into the game, especially when opening with a 4 Hatch Hydralisk break opening and maintaining a strong enough economy to do anything while being able to hold off the initial speedlots after the Hydralisk break.
Now, if Great went for Lurkers he wouldn't have had any units to accompany them and the Dragoons would have ran him over. The only shot Great had was to snipe the HT with his Mutalisks, but he was unable to do that and because of that he didn't have enough Hydralisks to stop the attack.
No units to accompany them, except maybe the 3-4 control group hydra army he had on hand?
On December 20 2011 16:48 gngfn wrote: Hive tech No lurkers ... OK, Great.
Lurkers wouldn't have helped and Great got a Hive. The problem is there is no way to get Hive tech out less than 13 minutes into the game, especially when opening with a 3 Hatch Hydralisk break opening and maintaining a strong enough economy to do anything while being able to hold off the initial speedlots after the Hydralisk break.
Now, if Great went for Lurkers he wouldn't have had any units to accompany them and the Dragoons would have ran him over. The only shot Great had was to snipe the HT with his Mutalisks, but he was unable to do that and because of that he didn't have enough Hydralisks to stop the attack.
Basically .. this game is one of many good examples why 3 hatch hydra is not a strong stable build to open with.
fantasy gg timing would be losing main and all expos except 12 o clock, and as bisu proceeds to destroy it, great, who somehow saved up 1k minerals starts expanding at 3 different areas while holding each off with 2-3 lurkers. bisu army proceeds to take down one by one, cancelling each hatch before destruction and rebuilding another hatch elsewhere. supply difference is now 150, great has 17 supply, but refusing to surrender. he starts harassing with 3 zergling at an undefended expansion and takes down a couple of probes before being beamed to death by them. with only 3 lurkers against 15 carriers and 5 scouts, great watches as his last hatchery goes down to 50 hp before typing out gg and being eliminated, but not before doing a spin with that drone that was building that last hatchery
On December 20 2011 16:53 PurePwnageofTerran wrote: Thats two games in a row weve seen pure rageage. Can we get a good game please? Maybe Best vs FirebatHero, that would make my day.
LOL best would just do his typical build 20 gateways and 1a2a3a macro mode to victory. who needs storms?
yeah like the second to last time when FBh just attacked like 6min in...and...won? wtf was that best
On December 20 2011 16:53 PurePwnageofTerran wrote: Thats two games in a row weve seen pure rageage. Can we get a good game please? Maybe Best vs FirebatHero, that would make my day.
On December 20 2011 16:51 Bayyne wrote: Am I wrong in thinking Great was in a good position that game?
Nah , there was a moment where it looks pretty well for great for me too. Before Bisu took his 3rd and had goons I thought great has enough mins and stuff to fight him, but he waited too long, Bisu build his 3, goons and temps and zlots went out and that is the moment where BvZ are usually decided ^^
On December 20 2011 16:53 PurePwnageofTerran wrote: Thats two games in a row weve seen pure rageage. Can we get a good game please? Maybe Best vs FirebatHero, that would make my day.
LOL best would just do his typical build 20 gateways and 1a2a3a macro mode to victory. who needs storms?
yeah like the second to last time when FBh just attacked like 6min in...and...won? wtf was that best
of course he got his revenge
tbh that was more of best failing than fbh playing particularly well
fbh's tvp recently has been improving though (if you ignore that abysmal last performance). at least i hope it has been. not convinced with anyone else's tvp these days besides flash.
On December 20 2011 16:51 Bayyne wrote: Am I wrong in thinking Great was in a good position that game?
Nah , there was a moment where it looks pretty well for great for me too. Before Bisu took his 3rd and had goons I thought great has enough mins and stuff to fight him, but he waited too long, Bisu build his 3, goons and temps and zlots went out and that is the moment where BvZ are usually decided ^^
Can't wait for set 3 .
If you wanna beat a toss like Bisu you've gotta deny that third longer. Otherwise his superior micro and macro are gonna overrun you no matter what advantage you seem to have for a moment.
"I lost two hts because i wasnt looking at the minimap and I didnt know about the hidden expos... i would've in a bad position if the game continued in his favor"
On December 20 2011 16:51 Bayyne wrote: Am I wrong in thinking Great was in a good position that game?
Nah , there was a moment where it looks pretty well for great for me too. Before Bisu took his 3rd and had goons I thought great has enough mins and stuff to fight him, but he waited too long, Bisu build his 3, goons and temps and zlots went out and that is the moment where BvZ are usually decided ^^
Can't wait for set 3 .
If you wanna beat a toss like Bisu you've gotta deny that third longer. Otherwise his superior micro and macro are gonna overrun you no matter what advantage you seem to have for a moment.
How do you deny the third when he gets it for free on this map lol?