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GDbushido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States926 Posts
December 18 2011 07:07 GMT
#781
On December 18 2011 16:05 J1.au wrote:
EMP should not work on Queens, it makes no sense.
you wanna know what else doesnt make sense? how raw mineral ore turns into people.

logic cannot dictate game play. only balance can.
remember not to think too much and your trip will be numbingly pleasant
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 07:08:46
December 18 2011 07:07 GMT
#782
On December 18 2011 16:00 Nikon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 15:54 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:53 Nikon wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:51 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:49 Nikon wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:48 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Jaedong wasn't really a bonjwa, but he was the overdog to Flash's underdog and inevitable rise so I guess he deserves some distinction.


Yes he was. It's just that at the later stages of the game, turnover rates at the highest have increased, so people like you pretend not to recognise him.


He never won a lot of titles in a short time frame and was never regarded by the community at large as a clearly distant #1 the same way other players were. He was to Jaedong fans, sure, but Flash was to everyone.


You really should revise your BW timeline... you're simply wrong. There's no ifs ands or buts about it.

On the other hand, infested CC lol!


Okay, whatever. Jaedong wasn't Savior or Flash level at any point in his career and if you disagree then you probably didn't watch Savior.


You just can't admit that you're wrong, can you? 5 titles in 26 months, insane winrates during that time not good enough for you? Or is it the fact that Flash won a title during Jaedong's reign? Well, guess what, Savior didn't win everything either. It just so happens that Flash started emerging during that period of time, which is exactly the high turnover rates that I mentioned.


Nope, Jaedong is statistically superior and clearly won more titles, though over a long stretch, than Savior. Savior's dominance was more about a complete deconstruction of everything we understood about the game and crushing his opposition with it. There is a reason no one really evoked Savior's dominance until Flash went balls to the wall crazy and won a billion titles in a one year span, and even then people were reluctant to give Flash similar credit.

Jaedong had lots of ups and downs. Bonjwas were, despite only Nada and Flash only doing the double titles, generally never perceived as clearly the best even when they lost. Jaedong never had that, and I can't really articulate it that way. I'm glad you're a Jaedong fan and I understand why you want to put Jaedong in that category, but there's a reason Jaedong's "reign" is more of a retrospective.

I've had this conversation a whole lot of times and I think I've even had it with you before, so I'd like to just say we agree to disagree.
Remember Violet.
HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
December 18 2011 07:07 GMT
#783
On December 18 2011 16:06 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 16:05 GDbushido wrote:
is christmas actually a thing in korea?

According to Wikipedia, something like 30% of South Korea is Christian, so I'm going to go with yes.

Edit: also christmas trees in the PL studios make me think yes.

Really. Christianity conquering the world.
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
Yxes2211
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1587 Posts
December 18 2011 07:08 GMT
#784
On December 18 2011 16:07 GDbushido wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 16:05 J1.au wrote:
EMP should not work on Queens, it makes no sense.
you wanna know what else doesnt make sense? how raw mineral ore turns into people.

logic cannot dictate game play. only balance can.

lololololololololololololol

Best quote i've seen all day
Jaedong and Baby
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
December 18 2011 07:08 GMT
#785
On December 18 2011 16:06 Motivate wrote:
does leta ever bow after a match? -.-

only men bow, not cute crossdressers
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
December 18 2011 07:08 GMT
#786
Can you guys seriously take the Jaedong chat to the PR thread or make a new one? Jaedong isn't even playing in this match.
Smix *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States4549 Posts
December 18 2011 07:08 GMT
#787
Leta: i practiced with a lot of zergs and scanned at that timing because around that time queens would come out
commentators: any advice on how to deal with queens?
leta: no matter how well you use queens, mech is really strong so i knew the hydras wouldn't be hard to beat
commentators: your ceremony was so cute!
leta: i was originally going to show my flip in the beginning of the season but i wasn't able to so i did it today
leta: yes i pulled that emp off knowing they were coming
commentators: message for your fans?
leta: my momentum is good, as well as my team's - i'll make sure we win the entire thing this season
TranslatorBe an Optimist Prime, Not a Negatron // twitter @smixity
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 07:08:37
December 18 2011 07:08 GMT
#788
SH vs T
oh shit

thanks for the translations smix
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
December 18 2011 07:08 GMT
#789
SKYHIGH
OMG Troublemaker <3
vs T
Lets go Skyhigh!
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
December 18 2011 07:08 GMT
#790
SkyHigh v T!!

YES!
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
December 18 2011 07:08 GMT
#791
SKYHIGH. It's been a while!
웅진 멘쓰즈
Tuke
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland1666 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 07:09:44
December 18 2011 07:08 GMT
#792
yay go skyhigh. Skyhigh on main, Mind on anti :x
TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #42
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
December 18 2011 07:08 GMT
#793
holy shit skyhigh.. whens the last time we saw him play
kingalexxx
Profile Joined January 2011
United States273 Posts
December 18 2011 07:08 GMT
#794
Skyhigh vs Mind
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
December 18 2011 07:08 GMT
#795
Skyhigh vs Mind?
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
kdgns
Profile Joined May 2009
United States2427 Posts
December 18 2011 07:09 GMT
#796
skyhigh gets a tvt, cj coach hax
imperfect
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada1652 Posts
December 18 2011 07:09 GMT
#797
heeeeeeey skyhigh long time no see
blind bisu free and anytime fanboy.
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
December 18 2011 07:09 GMT
#798
skyhigh vs mind nice
ace hwaiting!!
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
December 18 2011 07:09 GMT
#799
Oh Skyhigh vs Mind!
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
December 18 2011 07:09 GMT
#800
Ohhhhhh Mind using Muse, maybe he won't get smashed
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
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