On December 18 2011 15:48 TwoToneTerran wrote: Jaedong wasn't really a bonjwa, but he was the overdog to Flash's underdog and inevitable rise so I guess he deserves some distinction.
Yes he was. It's just that at the later stages of the game, turnover rates at the highest have increased, so people like you pretend not to recognise him.
He never won a lot of titles in a short time frame and was never regarded by the community at large as a clearly distant #1 the same way other players were. He was to Jaedong fans, sure, but Flash was to everyone.
You really should revise your BW timeline... you're simply wrong. There's no ifs ands or buts about it.
On the other hand, infested CC lol!
Okay, whatever. Jaedong wasn't Savior or Flash level at any point in his career and if you disagree then you probably didn't watch Savior.
You just can't admit that you're wrong, can you? 5 titles in 26 months, insane winrates during that time not good enough for you? Or is it the fact that Flash won a title during Jaedong's reign? Well, guess what, Savior didn't win everything either. It just so happens that Flash started emerging during that period of time, which is exactly the high turnover rates that I mentioned.
Nope, Jaedong is statistically superior and clearly won more titles, though over a long stretch, than Savior. Savior's dominance was more about a complete deconstruction of everything we understood about the game and crushing his opposition with it. There is a reason no one really evoked Savior's dominance until Flash went balls to the wall crazy and won a billion titles in a one year span, and even then people were reluctant to give Flash similar credit.
Jaedong had lots of ups and downs. Bonjwas were, despite only Nada and Flash only doing the double titles, generally never perceived as clearly the best even when they lost. Jaedong never had that, and I can't really articulate it that way. I'm glad you're a Jaedong fan and I understand why you want to put Jaedong in that category, but there's a reason Jaedong's "reign" is more of a retrospective.
I've had this conversation a whole lot of times and I think I've even had it with you before, so I'd like to just say we agree to disagree.
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