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gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
December 18 2011 07:03 GMT
#761
I always wonder why more Zerg players going for the queen strategy don't ensnare the vessels and then scourge them. Ensnared vessels are almost immobile, and the travel time on goliath missiles means that a good number of scourge will get through.
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
December 18 2011 07:03 GMT
#762
On December 18 2011 16:01 GDbushido wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 16:00 Witten wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:58 doothegee wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:56 Scaramanga wrote:
This is the most frustrating game to watch. I hate queens in zvt vs mech, useless


Soulkey: ????


Woongjin Stars zergs would like to have a word with you.

Though, to be fair, queens definitely don't always work out...
if something always worked out it would be OP


No, not really.

BBS to counter 12nex always works out. Is BBS OP?
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
December 18 2011 07:03 GMT
#763
On December 18 2011 15:59 icystorage wrote:
shin sang moon baby!

effort vs stats/mind?


I forgotten Mind exists for a while... What has happened to him? He became like ForGG already, skills dropped and cant be fielded?
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
December 18 2011 07:03 GMT
#764
On December 18 2011 16:03 xxpack09 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 16:01 GDbushido wrote:
On December 18 2011 16:00 Witten wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:58 doothegee wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:56 Scaramanga wrote:
This is the most frustrating game to watch. I hate queens in zvt vs mech, useless


Soulkey: ????


Woongjin Stars zergs would like to have a word with you.

Though, to be fair, queens definitely don't always work out...
if something always worked out it would be OP


No, not really.

BBS to counter 12nex always works out. Is BBS OP?


it's not "always" if you specify one situation
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
December 18 2011 07:03 GMT
#765
On December 18 2011 16:00 Nikon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 15:54 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:53 Nikon wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:51 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:49 Nikon wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:48 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Jaedong wasn't really a bonjwa, but he was the overdog to Flash's underdog and inevitable rise so I guess he deserves some distinction.


Yes he was. It's just that at the later stages of the game, turnover rates at the highest have increased, so people like you pretend not to recognise him.


He never won a lot of titles in a short time frame and was never regarded by the community at large as a clearly distant #1 the same way other players were. He was to Jaedong fans, sure, but Flash was to everyone.


You really should revise your BW timeline... you're simply wrong. There's no ifs ands or buts about it.

On the other hand, infested CC lol!


Okay, whatever. Jaedong wasn't Savior or Flash level at any point in his career and if you disagree then you probably didn't watch Savior.


You just can't admit that you're wrong, can you? 5 titles in 26 months, insane winrates during that time not good enough for you? Or is it the fact that Flash won a title during Jaedong's reign? Well, guess what, Savior didn't win everything either. It just so happens that Flash started emerging during that period of time, which is exactly the high turnover rates that I mentioned.


During that period he had some terrible times as well when he was in semi slumps... He was and is a great player but you can't compare him to Savior or Flash
GDbushido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States926 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 07:04:36
December 18 2011 07:04 GMT
#766
agh nvm
remember not to think too much and your trip will be numbingly pleasant
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
December 18 2011 07:04 GMT
#767
On December 18 2011 16:03 Black[CAT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 15:59 icystorage wrote:
shin sang moon baby!

effort vs stats/mind?


I forgotten Mind exists for a while... What has happened to him? He became like ForGG already, skills dropped and cant be fielded?


he lost to jaedong this season
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
December 18 2011 07:04 GMT
#768
On December 18 2011 16:01 GDbushido wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 16:00 Witten wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:58 doothegee wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:56 Scaramanga wrote:
This is the most frustrating game to watch. I hate queens in zvt vs mech, useless


Soulkey: ????


Woongjin Stars zergs would like to have a word with you.

Though, to be fair, queens definitely don't always work out...
if something always worked out it would be OP


True, of course. The point I was trying to get at I guess was that Queens are rarely used for a reason. That game was a good example of what happens when queens fail x.x
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
December 18 2011 07:04 GMT
#769
On December 18 2011 16:03 Black[CAT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 15:59 icystorage wrote:
shin sang moon baby!

effort vs stats/mind?


I forgotten Mind exists for a while... What has happened to him? He became like ForGG already, skills dropped and cant be fielded?

1. Player entries are usually based on team practice matches that we never see.
2. Mind performed abysmally against Jaedong the last time he was sent.
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
December 18 2011 07:05 GMT
#770
On December 18 2011 16:04 o[twist] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 16:03 Black[CAT] wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:59 icystorage wrote:
shin sang moon baby!

effort vs stats/mind?


I forgotten Mind exists for a while... What has happened to him? He became like ForGG already, skills dropped and cant be fielded?


he lost to jaedong this season


What a bum :p
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
December 18 2011 07:05 GMT
#771
On December 18 2011 16:03 Black[CAT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 15:59 icystorage wrote:
shin sang moon baby!

effort vs stats/mind?


I forgotten Mind exists for a while... What has happened to him? He became like ForGG already, skills dropped and cant be fielded?


mind lost his mojo after the chin went surgery lol
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J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
December 18 2011 07:05 GMT
#772
EMP should not work on Queens, it makes no sense.
imperfect
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada1652 Posts
December 18 2011 07:05 GMT
#773
On December 18 2011 16:01 BLinD-RawR wrote:
CAN WE FUCKING PLAY MIND OR WOOKI?


haha i can totally feel the frustration

stats mind wooki left; still not so bad.
flash did his part, and i guess so did crazy hydra
blind bisu free and anytime fanboy.
GDbushido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States926 Posts
December 18 2011 07:05 GMT
#774
is christmas actually a thing in korea?
remember not to think too much and your trip will be numbingly pleasant
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
December 18 2011 07:06 GMT
#775
On December 18 2011 16:00 Nikon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 15:54 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:53 Nikon wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:51 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:49 Nikon wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:48 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Jaedong wasn't really a bonjwa, but he was the overdog to Flash's underdog and inevitable rise so I guess he deserves some distinction.


Yes he was. It's just that at the later stages of the game, turnover rates at the highest have increased, so people like you pretend not to recognise him.


He never won a lot of titles in a short time frame and was never regarded by the community at large as a clearly distant #1 the same way other players were. He was to Jaedong fans, sure, but Flash was to everyone.


You really should revise your BW timeline... you're simply wrong. There's no ifs ands or buts about it.

On the other hand, infested CC lol!


Okay, whatever. Jaedong wasn't Savior or Flash level at any point in his career and if you disagree then you probably didn't watch Savior.


You just can't admit that you're wrong, can you? 5 titles in 26 months, insane winrates during that time not good enough for you? Or is it the fact that Flash won a title during Jaedong's reign? Well, guess what, Savior didn't win everything either. It just so happens that Flash started emerging during that period of time, which is exactly the high turnover rates that I mentioned.

The bonjwa definition is completely arbitrary anyway, don't worry about it. Nada, Boxer and Oov were shoehorned into it and Savior wasn't even nearly as dominant as Flash was during 2010. So screw the definition itself.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
Hero.SP
Profile Joined March 2010
Chile711 Posts
December 18 2011 07:06 GMT
#776
so he saw the queens...
"well you know, the hardest part is the gg, I mean you have to be aware anytime your opponent can type gg, and you have to gg just right after him." - Flash
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
December 18 2011 07:06 GMT
#777
On December 18 2011 16:05 J1.au wrote:
EMP should not work on Queens, it makes no sense.


Care to elaborate? Don't see why EMP should work on Defilers and High Templars, but Queens should be excluded.
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 07:06:54
December 18 2011 07:06 GMT
#778
On December 18 2011 16:05 GDbushido wrote:
is christmas actually a thing in korea?

According to Wikipedia, something like 30% of South Korea is Christian, so I'm going to go with yes.

Edit: also christmas trees in the PL studios make me think yes.
Liquipedia
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
December 18 2011 07:06 GMT
#779
does leta ever bow after a match? -.-
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 18 2011 07:06 GMT
#780
Leta with the money scan!
WriterXiao8~~
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