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Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
December 09 2011 01:11 GMT
#1921
On December 09 2011 09:42 VGhost wrote:
Welp, Brave was a really weird ace choice (screw it, I'm calling the fifth set the ace from now on). Assuming lineup can be changed, had to be expecting Leta, which is weird since Hydra's played more this year (unless Outlier is secretly a Terran map now). But it still seems like putting out Reality/TurN and letting them take their chances against Hydra/Leta has a higher EWP, even if Brave might be a bigger favorite over Leta.

If the lineup was preset, it seems to make even less sense. Lead with Jangbi and Stork I get. But I'm becoming firmly convinced you want a closer in this format, which would in this scenario be RorO (or possibly Reality or Shine).

Oh well. I guess as long as KHAN keeps making the playoffs, January's been coaching longer than I've been watching...


Brave's PvZ is quite good statistically (especially compared to his awful PvT). I disagree with you about needing a closer. Players should be sent out on the map they have the best chance to win, regardless of where that map is positioned in the match. Outlier is a P map, which is why Brave was sent instead of Reality. You might argue that she should have saved Stork or Jangbi for that spot, but if she puts Brave on, for example, Stork's map, then he might have lost and it would have been over 3-1 before Stork got to play. Regardless of the order they play in, the outcome of the match hinges on Brave's success anyway.
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Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3329 Posts
December 09 2011 01:48 GMT
#1922
Hydra vs Grape was a failure.... I realize that Grape was getting a zealot but that was no reason for him to pull his second probe and lose the cannon... and after that he just kept on carelessly losing zealots left and right... he looked like a person who didn't come with a plan...
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zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
December 09 2011 01:49 GMT
#1923
On December 09 2011 10:48 Bisu-Fan wrote: he looked like a person who didn't come with a plan...


probably because he didn't
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Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3329 Posts
December 09 2011 01:50 GMT
#1924
And blah... all the Zs won in ZvPs....
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VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3613 Posts
December 09 2011 02:19 GMT
#1925
On December 09 2011 10:50 Bisu-Fan wrote:
And blah... all the Zs won in ZvPs....


Clearly BeSt should have played.
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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
December 09 2011 02:55 GMT
#1926
What an absolute awful display of PvZ skills by BravE against Hydra. When the initial Zerglings were knocking on the door, he didn't add ANY Cannons to defend, then Dohsairs all over the place, ugh I was going facepalm throughout the entire game.
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Weedk
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States507 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 07:08:36
December 09 2011 07:07 GMT
#1927
On December 09 2011 10:09 HardMacro wrote:
Does anyone else find Effort unbearably annoying? Especially with that fugly new yellow hair or maybe it's his elf face, I just can't bring myself to like him even a bit. I always root against him, he's pretty much my most hated player currently. I know he's good, he's S-class and produces good games, but I just can't enjoy watching him play for some very strange and unknown reason.

I guess due to my inexplicable abhorrence, I strongly suspect that he was involved in the match-fixings scandals, just never caught or made a deal to get off. I mean, he was DOMINATING on the level of Jaedong, contending for the zerg throne, killing God in the OSL, playing like the way he has currently, then suddenly boom, he decides to retire and fell off the grid? I don't know, his "I want to focus on school" excuse seems feebly weak to me, as who in their right mind would choose attending a 4th class college over the very good chance (because he's so good) of making 6 figure digits annually in a year or two? And I don't know his specific salary at the time of "retirement", but I bet it's a lot more than the average A-teamer so why did he really quit?

I DON'T KNOW why I feel this way, I just do.


One of his stated reasons for retiring was that CJ screwed him in salary negotiations. Could've been a lot of other factors, living conditions, etc. I don't know why you find him so abhorrent. Focusing on his looks seems rather shallow to me as well.

Basically, that first part of your rant sounds like this: "He looks really annoying. I hate him for that."
icclown
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Denmark270 Posts
December 09 2011 20:13 GMT
#1928
On December 09 2011 09:25 hellbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 05:59 icclown wrote:
Whoops... Hydra on anti & KHAN for LB .... yikes


Why would you put the ace of a strong team on your anti?



I just had a gut feeling that Hydra would blow it this season... Serves me well, I guess... ^_^
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gen.Sun
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States539 Posts
December 10 2011 00:59 GMT
#1929
On December 09 2011 10:09 HardMacro wrote:
Does anyone else find Effort unbearably annoying? Especially with that fugly new yellow hair or maybe it's his elf face, I just can't bring myself to like him even a bit. I always root against him, he's pretty much my most hated player currently. I know he's good, he's S-class and produces good games, but I just can't enjoy watching him play for some very strange and unknown reason.

I guess due to my inexplicable abhorrence, I strongly suspect that he was involved in the match-fixings scandals, just never caught or made a deal to get off. I mean, he was DOMINATING on the level of Jaedong, contending for the zerg throne, killing God in the OSL, playing like the way he has currently, then suddenly boom, he decides to retire and fell off the grid? I don't know, his "I want to focus on school" excuse seems feebly weak to me, as who in their right mind would choose attending a 4th class college over the very good chance (because he's so good) of making 6 figure digits annually in a year or two? And I don't know his specific salary at the time of "retirement", but I bet it's a lot more than the average A-teamer so why did he really quit?

I DON'T KNOW why I feel this way, I just do.


The bias is strong in this one.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
December 10 2011 02:03 GMT
#1930
On December 10 2011 05:13 icclown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 09:25 hellbound wrote:
On December 09 2011 05:59 icclown wrote:
Whoops... Hydra on anti & KHAN for LB .... yikes


Why would you put the ace of a strong team on your anti?



I just had a gut feeling that Hydra would blow it this season... Serves me well, I guess... ^_^

The gamble can be worth it, i had effort in my anti 2 seasons back and it work great because he sluumped =P
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
December 10 2011 03:06 GMT
#1931
On December 09 2011 10:48 Bisu-Fan wrote:
Hydra vs Grape was a failure.... I realize that Grape was getting a zealot but that was no reason for him to pull his second probe and lose the cannon... and after that he just kept on carelessly losing zealots left and right... he looked like a person who didn't come with a plan...


Do you mean Brave? Or Horang2?
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
December 10 2011 05:52 GMT
#1932
On December 10 2011 11:03 ShadeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 05:13 icclown wrote:
On December 09 2011 09:25 hellbound wrote:
On December 09 2011 05:59 icclown wrote:
Whoops... Hydra on anti & KHAN for LB .... yikes


Why would you put the ace of a strong team on your anti?



I just had a gut feeling that Hydra would blow it this season... Serves me well, I guess... ^_^

The gamble can be worth it, i had effort in my anti 2 seasons back and it work great because he sluumped =P


Yeah ok, but CJ. You get points every time the team wins too afaik. And CJ this season... I realised this recently, I got Snow and even though he is not winning, the points keep coming.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
December 10 2011 07:33 GMT
#1933
Well thats part of the gamble. IIRC effort took up over half of my anti team points which enabled me to pick 2 others who were total scrubs. Sometimes you'd rather a single ace player losing you points as opposed to 3 roro's =S.
gladsheim
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia676 Posts
December 10 2011 17:21 GMT
#1934
who can stop effort ;o
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