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ZZangDreamjOy
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Game
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On October 02 2011 10:36 ZZangDreamjOy wrote: Check the Skype logs that JoeKim has posted? Ever since you took over LRM), they've been quite shady. It has been shown that you have abused Admin priviledges on iCCup in order to make brackets better for your team, have been asking for smurfs / mercenaries to play for LRM), and beyond that you seem to have no love for your own teammates, calling people like Bakuryu trash, when they're quite a lot better then you. Unless you can refute any of the claims JoeKim has made, or refute his evidence, please just shut the hell up and take the high road. You do realize you're posting in the Gambit Cup thread... correct? + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/file.php?2,file=38276,filename=derp11_RE_Epic_Meal_Time-s314x322-126809-580.jpg) | ||
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ZZangDreamjOy
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On October 02 2011 10:42 ZZangDreamjOy wrote: You do realize that it doesn't even matter? Look, I dislike Scan as much as you do, but you had him banned from ISL2 for abuse in another tournament. Why should LRM) be allowed to play in Gambit Cup when they've abused in another clan league? Jesus Christ, you can continue being a pompous asshole with an ego larger then the moon, but at least have the decency not to be a fucking hypocrite. More false statements, keep going, you might catch up to JoeKim. | ||
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ZZangDreamjOy
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Game
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On October 02 2011 10:47 ZZangDreamjOy wrote: Then how about you enlighten me rather then simply say that everything is false? You're not proving your innocence by simply saying "Oh, none of this is true. All those Skype conversations mean nothing." I lack a certain part of human characteristics known commonly as "give a shit". In essence, I don't actually care, nor feel the need to dignify what was obviously carefully planned lies. People that know me personally know the reality of the situation, and you sir, are someone I don't know or care about. | ||
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JoeKim
United States608 Posts
On October 02 2011 10:49 Game wrote: I lack a certain part of human characteristics known commonly as "give a shit". In essence, I don't actually care, nor feel the need to dignify what was obviously carefully planned lies. People that know me personally know the reality of the situation, and you sir, are someone I don't know or care about. oh, i've known you for over 10 years and worked with you for 2 years. enlighten me on the reality of the situation. what lies were carefully planned? i copy/pasted our Skype Logs and highlighted the times you've cheated/abused. the only things i had to edit out were personal information on gamers that are not involved with this scandal. you're trying to play an innocent role when your reputation as a player/manager is just as tainted as mine. ![[image loading]](http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/851/gamebitcupabuse.jpg/) | ||
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cujo2k
Canada1044 Posts
Hell, JoeKim needs to be permabanned as well since joekim.liquidpoker.net kinda proves that the two of them are the shadiest people in foreign bw. | ||
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JoeKim
United States608 Posts
On October 02 2011 13:28 cujo2k wrote: If this league is going to have any integrity at all, then Game needs to at least be banned from the finals. Better to be safe than sorry. Why allow someone with a long history of cheating to organize a clanwar in a finals for cash? Hell, JoeKim needs to be permabanned as well since joekim.liquidpoker.net kinda proves that the two of them are the shadiest people in foreign bw. i'm already permabanned, sir. | ||
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
On October 02 2011 13:28 cujo2k wrote: If this league is going to have any integrity at all, then Game needs to at least be banned from the finals. Better to be safe than sorry. Why allow someone with a long history of cheating to organize a clanwar in a finals for cash? Hell, JoeKim needs to be permabanned as well since joekim.liquidpoker.net kinda proves that the two of them are the shadiest people in foreign bw. What Joekim's skype log proves is that he was scrambling for a player and was considering cheating to fill the spot. However, it also proves he didn't cheat in that particular clan war. I have no grounds to ban him on anything he's done in anything I've hosted. iCCup is another story, however, for these finals there will be no opportunity for him to abuse, I'm already taking IPs of the players on both teams and the player shout out system will be made differently and absolutely impossible to abuse on. Also, don't be so Naive, even if Game is banned, he'll be running the CW on skype with Glory or Jinu. | ||
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cujo2k
Canada1044 Posts
Or maybe it is, but like you said, he'll still run the CWs through skype. So where do you go from here? I personally think LRM is going to die, so it's a moot point, but obviously anyone running a future clanleague(i.e. Gambit Cup 2) has to strongly consider banning them from participating. I'm glad that you are taking preventative measures for the finals though, and I will be tuning in  | ||
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Game
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On October 02 2011 14:34 cujo2k wrote: So you have logs of Game potentially wanting to cheat in Gambit and logs of him actually cheating in other clanleagues, but that's not enough to ban him? Or maybe it is, but like you said, he'll still run the CWs through skype. So where do you go from here? I personally think LRM is going to die, so it's a moot point, but obviously anyone running a future clanleague(i.e. Gambit Cup 2) has to strongly consider banning them from participating. I'm glad that you are taking preventative measures for the finals though, and I will be tuning in Did you just suggest that someone be put in jail for a crime they committed in the past just because you don't want it to happen in the future? I thought we were on an internet forum, not a council meeting in the Vatican or the Roman Empire. | ||
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
On October 02 2011 14:34 cujo2k wrote: So you have logs of Game potentially wanting to cheat in Gambit and logs of him actually cheating in other clanleagues, but that's not enough to ban him? Or maybe it is, but like you said, he'll still run the CWs through skype. So where do you go from here? I personally think LRM is going to die, so it's a moot point, but obviously anyone running a future clanleague(i.e. Gambit Cup 2) has to strongly consider banning them from participating. I'm glad that you are taking preventative measures for the finals though, and I will be tuning in Now, I let people play in my league until they abuse in my league, I allowed JoeKim and Scan to play even after they had past counts of abuse. To ban LRM)Game would actually show bias. based on my previous decision. | ||
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Eywa-
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Mazur
Poland479 Posts
On October 02 2011 14:52 Game wrote: Did you just suggest that someone be put in jail for a crime they committed in the past just because you don't want it to happen in the future? I thought we were on an internet forum, not a council meeting in the Vatican or the Roman Empire. Wasn't that what you did with Scan ? | ||
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Game
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Not at all. Scan has abused in every tournament he's been allowed in for the past 3 1/2 years. | ||
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Mazur
Poland479 Posts
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On October 02 2011 16:19 Mazur wrote: But if even a part of that what Joekim is writing that means you did too. I cheated for the last 4 months that I ran LRM) in a league that was on a server in which I was banned. JoeKim also taught me how to cheat, and supplied me the admin account to do so. In the same post he expresses that he was also cheating with Scan and showing him the exact same route. I think it's pretty much common sense. | ||
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Sneazel
Poland152 Posts
i have no words to say im just disappointed at you guys just shame on you | ||
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Mazur
Poland479 Posts
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