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ninini
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden1204 Posts
September 15 2011 09:53 GMT
#41
On September 15 2011 17:41 Game wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 16:56 Eywa- wrote:
On September 15 2011 15:59 ninini wrote:
How come Scan weren't allowed to play, if someone who lives 1 hour away from him were?

Dude, Scan's been caught cheating so many times. Honestly hope you're trolling.


Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 17:30 ninini wrote:
On September 15 2011 16:56 Eywa- wrote:
On September 15 2011 15:59 ninini wrote:
How come Scan weren't allowed to play, if someone who lives 1 hour away from him were?

Dude, Scan's been caught cheating so many times. Honestly hope you're trolling.

If Scan had been allowed to play in ISL2, he would have had no reason to hide behind a fake id and cheat this time. I'd like to know the reason why Scan was banned from ISL2 in the first place.

I'm not saying it was wrong to not let Scan participate in ISL2, because I don't have all the info, but that's exactly why I want to know the reasons why he wasn't included, since what I can remember it was because he had moved back to Korea, which clearly isn't true if he lives 1 hour away from an american player.


I'm really hoping the same thing, Eywa. ninini, if you're really diehard about why Scan was banned for previous cheating in every major tournament he's participated in, it's well documented and can be easily found. Have fun with your research.

Edit: Okay, I re-read your post... "If Scan had been allowed to play in ISL2, he would have had no reason to hide behind a fake id and cheat this time." Scan cheats no matter if he's allowed to play in something or not, proven fact. Clearly you know this by pointing out that it was "this time".

Well, what did Scan do between ISL1 and ISL2 that justified a ban from your tournaments? It's a really simple question.
Guty
Profile Joined July 2011
Honduras37 Posts
September 15 2011 10:16 GMT
#42

Well, what did Scan do between ISL1 and ISL2 that justified a ban from your tournaments? It's a really simple question.

Simple answer as well,as you can read in previous posts he CHEATED.Just scroll your mouse up and see what Game wrote.
"With great power,comes great pussy"
ninini
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden1204 Posts
September 15 2011 10:30 GMT
#43
On September 15 2011 19:16 Guty wrote:
Show nested quote +

Well, what did Scan do between ISL1 and ISL2 that justified a ban from your tournaments? It's a really simple question.

Simple answer as well,as you can read in previous posts he CHEATED.Just scroll your mouse up and see what Game wrote.

The first occasion was before ISL1. The second one, I don't know, and it's very unclear what he actually did. And the third occasion would have never happened if he had been included in the first place. Instead of just calling him a cheater, you can educate me on what he actually did, because clearly there's 2 ppl here other than Game who knows enough about Scan's history as a cheater to decide that he didn't deserve to play in ISL2.
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1764 Posts
September 15 2011 12:56 GMT
#44
And you think this isn't enough already? Considering he cheated once again, and you really believe he wouldn't have done it otherwise?
All that this shows is that he is a cheater and he even takes the burden of 2hours on a car to do the cheating, so I really don't see your point in the first place.
Leave the scum out of the esports and move past it, stop being a fanboy.
LML
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6580 Posts
September 15 2011 13:22 GMT
#45
On September 15 2011 21:56 LML wrote:
And you think this isn't enough already? Considering he cheated once again, and you really believe he wouldn't have done it otherwise?
All that this shows is that he is a cheater and he even takes the burden of 2hours on a car to do the cheating, so I really don't see your point in the first place.
Leave the scum out of the esports and move past it, stop being a fanboy.

sorry but,.whats scan do on isl1 ? maybe win and show more skill than others ? -_-;;
ninini
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden1204 Posts
September 15 2011 13:36 GMT
#46
On September 15 2011 21:56 LML wrote:
And you think this isn't enough already? Considering he cheated once again, and you really believe he wouldn't have done it otherwise?
All that this shows is that he is a cheater and he even takes the burden of 2hours on a car to do the cheating, so I really don't see your point in the first place.
Leave the scum out of the esports and move past it, stop being a fanboy.

I'm just asking why Scan was banned from ISL2. Does that make me a fanboy?

If we assume that Scan didn't do anything wrong between ISL1 and ISL2, then anyone who were in his shoes would feel cheated when they realized that they couldn't participate in ISL2. What happened before ISL1 clearly didn't prevent him from participating in that tournament.

What I'm asking is for someone to prove this assumption to be false. Did Scan do something inbetween the tournaments that justified the ban? If that's the case, then I'll accept that, but clearly noone seems to know the answer.
Herro_Korea
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
310 Posts
September 15 2011 14:17 GMT
#47
On September 15 2011 22:36 ninini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 21:56 LML wrote:
And you think this isn't enough already? Considering he cheated once again, and you really believe he wouldn't have done it otherwise?
All that this shows is that he is a cheater and he even takes the burden of 2hours on a car to do the cheating, so I really don't see your point in the first place.
Leave the scum out of the esports and move past it, stop being a fanboy.

I'm just asking why Scan was banned from ISL2. Does that make me a fanboy?

If we assume that Scan didn't do anything wrong between ISL1 and ISL2, then anyone who were in his shoes would feel cheated when they realized that they couldn't participate in ISL2. What happened before ISL1 clearly didn't prevent him from participating in that tournament.

What I'm asking is for someone to prove this assumption to be false. Did Scan do something inbetween the tournaments that justified the ban? If that's the case, then I'll accept that, but clearly noone seems to know the answer.



Game :
P.S this was the third time Scan was banned from this league. First as a general ban for cheating. Second as a ladder player who played within the last few days. Third, for this. I guess it's best to question why Scan was banned initially, given his cheating past, and cheating in every major tournament and starleague.


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SouthPark
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland143 Posts
September 15 2011 15:06 GMT
#48
Game where is gosu video?! :D
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
September 15 2011 16:28 GMT
#49
On September 16 2011 00:06 SouthPark wrote:
Game where is gosu video?! :D


As soon as you send him your replays, he will make it
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Finance
Profile Joined September 2009
United States15 Posts
September 15 2011 17:36 GMT
#50



Game :
P.S this was the third time Scan was banned from this league. First as a general ban for cheating. Second as a ladder player who played within the last few days. Third, for this. I guess it's best to question why Scan was banned initially, given his cheating past, and cheating in every major tournament and starleague.


[/QUOTE]


dae find this hard to understand? It is a syntax disaster and makes no sense.
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 19:07:40
September 15 2011 19:07 GMT
#51
On September 16 2011 00:06 SouthPark wrote:
Game where is gosu video?! :D

Released on Saturday before the games start. ^^

On September 16 2011 02:36 Finance wrote:
Game :
Show nested quote +
P.S this was the third time Scan was banned from this league. First as a general ban for cheating. Second as a ladder player who played within the last few days. Third, for this. I guess it's best to question why Scan was banned initially, given his cheating past, and cheating in every major tournament and starleague.





dae find this hard to understand? It is a syntax disaster and makes no sense.


Not sure what your first word is supposed to be, but I'm sure it wouldn't have changed my points. This was written to Pholon as a personal message, hence the lack of grammar and general diction you need present when making a public statement. Pholon was pressed for time in writing this article and therefore just copied and pasted it.

"P.S" The third part is actually rage/satire about people like ninini, since his fans constantly question his cheating without logic.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
ExceeD_DreaM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada500 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 19:36:59
September 15 2011 19:35 GMT
#52
ninini,

First of all, Scan plays in Korean flag. From what I know, all players with Korean flag, regardless of where you live, are not allowed to play in ISL. Scan has used korean flags alot and everyone knows it, and if he is to play, real Koreans (I don't consider cheaters Korean, like Joekim did for stream watching vs Cute) will complain.

IF 'Koreans' weren't allowed to play, then people like Bibiane, God or Michael wouldn't be allowed to play either, but they play in their respective geological location flags that are Canada, USA and Australia.

Also, once a cheater forever a cheater. Also, i thought ruarc was laddered by joekim no?


I wish to see a clean and mannerly ro16, but no worries because all the players left now are great skilled and respectable players. my money on Astro or Michael, gl boys!
ninini
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden1204 Posts
September 15 2011 19:40 GMT
#53
P.S this was the third time Scan was banned from this league. First as a general ban for cheating. Second as a ladder player who played within the last few days. Third, for this. I guess it's best to question why Scan was banned initially, given his cheating past, and cheating in every major tournament and starleague.

The first offense wasn't enough to prevent him from participating in ISL1, and the third offense happened as a reaction to and after he was banned from ISL2, so can someone please explain exactly what Game meant with the second offense, what Scan did and when it happened? It seems noone really knows, which is strange since so many here are so vocal about why he shouldn't be allowed to play.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
September 15 2011 19:43 GMT
#54
On September 15 2011 19:30 ninini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 19:16 Guty wrote:

Well, what did Scan do between ISL1 and ISL2 that justified a ban from your tournaments? It's a really simple question.

Simple answer as well,as you can read in previous posts he CHEATED.Just scroll your mouse up and see what Game wrote.

The first occasion was before ISL1. The second one, I don't know, and it's very unclear what he actually did. And the third occasion would have never happened if he had been included in the first place. Instead of just calling him a cheater, you can educate me on what he actually did, because clearly there's 2 ppl here other than Game who knows enough about Scan's history as a cheater to decide that he didn't deserve to play in ISL2.

If you can recall 3 separate events where Scan cheated and you're still asking the question... People don't change overnight.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1764 Posts
September 15 2011 19:43 GMT
#55
ExceeD_DreaM it was about korean IPs, the flag doesn't matter, just because you have a flag from a different country from your country doesn't always mean you are from that country, like in this case.

And was it actually proven that JoeKim watched the stream? I never read anything about that.

Yes, mannered and well played matches is what I am looking for aswell, gogo!
LML
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 19:54:45
September 15 2011 19:50 GMT
#56
On September 16 2011 04:40 ninini wrote:
Show nested quote +
P.S this was the third time Scan was banned from this league. First as a general ban for cheating. Second as a ladder player who played within the last few days. Third, for this. I guess it's best to question why Scan was banned initially, given his cheating past, and cheating in every major tournament and starleague.

The first offense wasn't enough to prevent him from participating in ISL1, and the third offense happened as a reaction to and after he was banned from ISL2, so can someone please explain exactly what Game meant with the second offense, what Scan did and when it happened? It seems noone really knows, which is strange since so many here are so vocal about why he shouldn't be allowed to play.


Alright, you keep changing your question, hence you are a troll. But troll, I will feed you.
First off, and most importantly: This thread is not about Scan, it's the Round of 16 thread, so please stop it.
Second off: He tried to smurf into the ladder 3 days before its end and make an entire identity for himself as "Richard Garey". I won't reveal his smurf name because it's unimportant, but he went 28-4 and tried to qualify low, expecting me not to scrutinize my counter abuse of the lower players. This could have been intel he received from my staff, because in fact, I said that exact thing to all but two people. "We'll only really check hardcore 1-80 or so"

But in reality, I personally was watching the main players and the lower ranks with a hawk eye with the help of two other CAT members.

P.S Not all of the CAT team is listed.

Edit: P.S.S This is the last time I will reply to you in this thread.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
ninini
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden1204 Posts
September 15 2011 20:22 GMT
#57

Alright, you keep changing your question, hence you are a troll.

I've asked the exact same question every single time, so don't give me that.

On September 16 2011 04:50 Game wrote:
Second off: He tried to smurf into the ladder 3 days before its end and make an entire identity for himself as "Richard Garey". I won't reveal his smurf name because it's unimportant, but he went 28-4 and tried to qualify low, expecting me not to scrutinize my counter abuse of the lower players. This could have been intel he received from my staff, because in fact, I said that exact thing to all but two people. "We'll only really check hardcore 1-80 or so"

Thanks for the straight answer, finally.
Was that for a second account in the ISL1 ladder or was it for ISL2? If it was for ISL1, then I agree with disqualifying him for ISL2, although then logically you shouldn't have let him participate in ISL1 either. So was it ISL1 or ISL2?
Herro_Korea
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
310 Posts
September 15 2011 20:31 GMT
#58
On September 16 2011 05:22 ninini wrote:
Show nested quote +

Alright, you keep changing your question, hence you are a troll.

I've asked the exact same question every single time, so don't give me that.

Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 04:50 Game wrote:
Second off: He tried to smurf into the ladder 3 days before its end and make an entire identity for himself as "Richard Garey". I won't reveal his smurf name because it's unimportant, but he went 28-4 and tried to qualify low, expecting me not to scrutinize my counter abuse of the lower players. This could have been intel he received from my staff, because in fact, I said that exact thing to all but two people. "We'll only really check hardcore 1-80 or so"

Thanks for the straight answer, finally.
Was that for a second account in the ISL1 ladder or was it for ISL2? If it was for ISL1, then I agree with disqualifying him for ISL2, although then logically you shouldn't have let him participate in ISL1 either. So was it ISL1 or ISL2?


r u for rela? He just anserwed your question and you still ask him. He tried to smurf into ISL2. He got banned. He wasn't allowed to play ISL2 since he is full of shit cheater. End of story.


On topic I'll say it's unfortunate Pike has to play vs SouthPark but oh well. CastrO vs Bakuryu will be sick. Kashu games impressed me whole lot, I hope this guy will advance deeper.
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IslandMapBonjwa
Profile Joined August 2011
Ireland86 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 20:42:21
September 15 2011 20:34 GMT
#59
Ninini please silence yourself. This is the third time he was banned from a foreigner starleague, for about the twelve reason.
Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
September 15 2011 20:54 GMT
#60
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=265802

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Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
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