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On September 15 2011 11:30 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2011 10:49 ArvickHero wrote:On September 15 2011 09:38 RezChi wrote:On September 15 2011 09:23 Release wrote:On September 15 2011 08:02 oldgregg wrote:I dont wanna sound negative but all the people who want fantasy to win are traitors to BW.....  whyyyyyyyyyy Fantasy in finals is sooooo nice to watch. I almost cried when i saw him lose to jaedong because he had played so nicely.:p Fantasy isn't as great of a player he actually is. It's all thanks to oov lending a hand with strategies and stuff. Watch his TvZ can't play bionic for shit for so long. Yes Fantasy a good player only because of Oov, that's why Canata, Ssak and all the SKT B-Teamer Terrans are the stuff of legends! And nevermind that series vs Hydra where he went bio 3/4 games (Even Flash and Light late-mech now, so you can't say shit about not using late-game bio). Sick of (mostly) Stork/Khan fanboys continually undermining Fantasy for his worth. Jangbi can be an exciting, awesome player when he's on and it'd be nice for a Protoss to finally win a finals, but my tag is T1 dammit, and I'll never turn my back on my favorite team. Fantasy all the way, become a contender for the Golden Mouse! Lol I honestly think that Oov is picking favourite. See at that time, Canata was doing well but then got overshadowed by Midas and after a while, Canata made it into Quarter-final but then right afterward got overshardowed by Fantasy. That guy just can't catch a break. And the new Ssak guy is pretty lol in my opinion. He defeated Flash because Oov prepared him well. Look at it in the grande scheme of things, no Protoss player have won a SL in the past while and in the past while, things are going downhill. So Protoss player winning = good for ESPORT!!!!!
canata was already not really good at all except for 1 season when he almost beat JD in a Bo5 (about 7 months after fantasy made incruit finals). Then he went back to mediocrity. I want jangbi to win too but fantasy is a great player goddamnit.
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Pray for Jangbi revenge, but it wouldnt be the worst thing to ever happen if Fantasy repeated.
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On September 15 2011 09:23 Release wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2011 08:02 oldgregg wrote:I dont wanna sound negative but all the people who want fantasy to win are traitors to BW..... whyyyyyyyyyy Fantasy in finals is sooooo nice to watch. I almost cried when i saw him lose to jaedong because he had played so nicely.:p
It's not that Fantasy isn't good to watch, it's that Jangbi winning would give a much bigger boost to the pro-scene. You've seen the massive crowds Jangbi has been drawing since he made it past the Ro16. There are people in their 30s and fans who have watched BW for a decade leaving thank you messages on his cyworld. A Jangbi victory would be one of the greatest esports stories of all time and something the community can rally around.
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Jangbi winning would be sooo great. Finally a Protoss winner.
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omgggggggggggggggggggg. fucking start already. I wonder how Jangbi and Fantasy feel right now. so much anxiety!!!
Khan really needs the boost of the OSL win :[
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Russian Federation1612 Posts
On September 15 2011 03:29 figq wrote:"I like a man who grins when he fights." - Winston Churchill ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/wXyRV.gif)
It should be HT or DA avatar icon 
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HYYYYYPE!!!
gogogo Jangbi!
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Actually this finals reminds me of something:
Flash[fantasy] is in the OSL finals for the second time in a row. Again he is facing a CJ entus[samsung khan] guy, but this time, the finals will be much harder because Effort[Jangbi] won't be a pushover like Movie[stork] was.
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haha. awesome banner & funny hype section. jjang. : D
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On September 15 2011 11:44 saltywet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2011 11:27 Lightwip wrote:On September 15 2011 09:38 RezChi wrote:On September 15 2011 09:23 Release wrote:On September 15 2011 08:02 oldgregg wrote:I dont wanna sound negative but all the people who want fantasy to win are traitors to BW..... whyyyyyyyyyy Fantasy in finals is sooooo nice to watch. I almost cried when i saw him lose to jaedong because he had played so nicely.:p Fantasy isn't as great of a player he actually is. It's all thanks to oov lending a hand with strategies and stuff. Watch his TvZ can't play bionic for shit for so long. Look, he destroyed your precious Stork in a 3-0 beatdown fair and square, not without help, but certainly not as a puppet. He did so because he's better than Stork. Accept this and just stop hating Fantasy needlessly. fantasy is a puppet with near perfect execution and skill given the preparation, and stork played right into fantasy's strengths. i daresay that with the lack of oov as coach and if he played only against unpredictable players, his winrate would be about the same as tossgirl
Right, thats why he have some ugly record in his vZero rivalry.
Oh wait, he actually have not!
Stork played worse than him, period. In first game lost ground battle in possition, when he still could win, but Fantasy smashed him with perfect EMP. In third game Stork was just out-everything, strategy was major, but secondary factor. Stork made some mistakes offcourse, but it was Fantasy who made there so many good moves.
Edit: the most "unpredictable" player is him and...Calm.
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On September 15 2011 11:27 Lightwip wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2011 09:38 RezChi wrote:On September 15 2011 09:23 Release wrote:On September 15 2011 08:02 oldgregg wrote:I dont wanna sound negative but all the people who want fantasy to win are traitors to BW..... whyyyyyyyyyy Fantasy in finals is sooooo nice to watch. I almost cried when i saw him lose to jaedong because he had played so nicely.:p Fantasy isn't as great of a player he actually is. It's all thanks to oov lending a hand with strategies and stuff. Watch his TvZ can't play bionic for shit for so long. Look, he destroyed your precious Stork in a 3-0 beatdown fair and square, not without help, but certainly not as a puppet. He did so because he's better than Stork. Accept this and just stop hating Fantasy needlessly.
Not fair and square, because Stork's gf broke up with him a few days before the final.
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On September 15 2011 16:54 nasze_zrodlo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2011 11:27 Lightwip wrote:On September 15 2011 09:38 RezChi wrote:On September 15 2011 09:23 Release wrote:On September 15 2011 08:02 oldgregg wrote:I dont wanna sound negative but all the people who want fantasy to win are traitors to BW..... whyyyyyyyyyy Fantasy in finals is sooooo nice to watch. I almost cried when i saw him lose to jaedong because he had played so nicely.:p Fantasy isn't as great of a player he actually is. It's all thanks to oov lending a hand with strategies and stuff. Watch his TvZ can't play bionic for shit for so long. Look, he destroyed your precious Stork in a 3-0 beatdown fair and square, not without help, but certainly not as a puppet. He did so because he's better than Stork. Accept this and just stop hating Fantasy needlessly. Not fair and square, because Stork's gf broke up with him a few days before final.
Yeah, and fantasy's hamster died from fur cancer.
those excuses sounds more and more riddiculus.
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What's wrong with progamers receiving help from their coach? It's their job isn't it?
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United States13143 Posts
On September 15 2011 17:21 Jindo wrote:
What's wrong with progamers receiving help from their coach? It's their job isn't it?
The argument some people make is that fantasy can't think for himself which somehow invalidates his victory over Stork? I don't know, the entire train of logic/argument is silly; fantasy won, stork lost. In the end, that's all that matters.
Edit: Also I don't think fantasy is a robot who only does what oov says.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
On September 15 2011 17:30 Elyvilon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2011 17:21 Jindo wrote:
What's wrong with progamers receiving help from their coach? It's their job isn't it? The argument some people make is that fantasy can't think for himself which somehow invalidates his victory over Stork? I don't know, the entire train of logic/argument is silly; fantasy won, stork lost. In the end, that's all that matters. Edit: Also I don't think fantasy is a robot who only does what oov says.
no,he only does well when he does what Oov says.
+ Show Spoiler +I'm just kidding around here
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On September 15 2011 17:30 Elyvilon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2011 17:21 Jindo wrote:
What's wrong with progamers receiving help from their coach? It's their job isn't it? The argument some people make is that fantasy can't think for himself which somehow invalidates his victory over Stork? I don't know, the entire train of logic/argument is silly; fantasy won, stork lost. In the end, that's all that matters. Edit: Also I don't think fantasy is a robot who only does what oov says.
One thinking Khan fan at last.
99% of progamers wins with a strategies invented before from someone else, and only execusions/BO's/chosen strats deciding who is a winner. Great inventors like Oov, Zero/Soulkey or Bisu are minority. Fantasy is the man that invented (reinvented?) at last 1 strat (denchanic) and used it with a succes.
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I'll be in Seoul this Saturday and am planning to go to this event. I googled and it showed the final will be at the Korea War Memorial in Seoul and I 'think' I can get there using the subway Samgakji Station (Subway Lines 4, 6), Exit 12. It is 5min away from the station.
So in short, can anyone confirm with me if the final venue is War Memorial in Seoul?
Thanks a mil ^_^
edit: looks like it is:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=261847¤tpage=2
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@hitthat
I dont know man.. I, for one, was worried like hell when i heard about Stork's gf breaking up with him before the finals. Im sure its not an end-all-be-all excuse, but personally i feel that it played role. Stork would not have gone down in the pathetic way that he did, if u consider the monster form he was in before that, and PvT was his absolute best match-up.
Also, was i missing out something? o.O since when is Bisu one of the top innovators? I mean im the biggest Bisu fan since the Big Bang probably, but still >.<
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The bisu build changed PVZ alot....
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Can I safely assume that regardless of the winner of this OSL, the throne to the Kong line will finally be upheld by a worthy heir?
EDIT: Just realized I'm a ghost, yay!
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EPT
