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Netherlands5963 Posts
On July 14 2011 17:52 purpose wrote:
wow snow did so many good things and still it seemed to not hurt zerg at all who could just a-move lings, hydras and lurkers against storm and reavers to win.
You really do understand why pvz is so freaking hard when you watch a game like this.
SoO did some great drone pulling and made a lot of nice flanks/sandwiches on the Protoss army. He didn't just a-move... Give him some credit, please. They both played outstanding.
Edit: Not to forget some good plagues.
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I have to reiterate - for all the drones and units snow destroyed - he didn't destroy a single one of soo's bases
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On July 14 2011 17:52 Zona wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2011 17:50 valaki wrote:
Awesome game, Snow tired EVERYTHING but wasn't enough. Soo just kept producing low cost units / drones and held everything. well it helped that snow never destroyed any of soo's bases taking out drones is one thing, but when zerg has 8+ hatcheries just one round of larvae = all drones back
Yeah, people don't understand that though -.-
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I feel like most people are mistaking flashy play for smart play.
Killing Drones stops hurting when Z is on 10 Hatch 7 base and P doesn't have an army. Zerg just makes more Drones which are effectively free at that point.
Come on Snow ... really want to see him go deep in a league again but stuff like this drives me crazy. He's supposed to be the next great CJ genius....
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On July 14 2011 17:53 darktreb wrote:
I'm a huge Snow fan and I do think late game ZvP can be tough, but I really think that was just a blown game by him. By storming drones endlessly he just delays how long it takes for Zerg to mine out, because he's not actually bothering to build an army and take advantage of the mining interrupt. It's a flashy way of choking yourself to death. All that money spent harassing could have been spent assembling a huge army, holding your bases with Storm/Reaver, and then rolling out, which never happened.
Exactly this. The turning point came when Snow lost 10 because, instead of having 8 HT there to cast infinite storms at Soo's exclusively low-tech combat units, he had thrown them all away to get like 5-8 drones per drop. That game displayed a fundamental misunderstanding of lategame PvZ.
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He should just build the Protoss deathball and fucking plow trough the zerg
multipronged harassement as much as its awesome to watch, didnt do shit apparently
COMPLETELY thrown away game by Snow...
im sad
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protoss tears soo tasty :D:D
in other news, turn vs shine up next. the real match i was looking forward to
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now that they are showing the replay i realized snow shouldn't engaged soo base when he had that many lurker................. probably mass troops and defend would have won against turtle soo..
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On July 14 2011 17:53 s.Q.uelched wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2011 17:52 purpose wrote:
wow snow did so many good things and still it seemed to not hurt zerg at all who could just a-move lings, hydras and lurkers against storm and reavers to win.
You really do understand why pvz is so freaking hard when you watch a game like this. SoO did some great drone pulling and made a lot of nice flanks/sandwiches on the Protoss army. He didn't just a-move... Give him some credit, please. They both played outstanding. Edit: Not to forget some good plagues.
The 2-3 sandwiches were pretty nice, but his army control wasn't that good otherwise. I guess he focused on macroing rather than microing.
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I must say I love seeing multiple reavers lategame PvZ though
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I don't think Snow necessarily needed to "build a huge army and go kill him" (killing a zerg lategame tech and 5-6 bases to reinforce from tends to be futile), but he needed to target hatcheries instead of drones.
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On July 14 2011 17:55 Motivate wrote:
protoss tears soo tasty :D:D
in other news, turn vs shine up next. the real match i was looking forward to
lololol so funny HAHAHA
+ Show Spoiler +
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Snow needed to expand to the 10 o'clock but soo just didn't let him. It came down to the last mining base, just like with Bisu vs. Roro. Soo spent all of his efforts there while Snow was busy wasting shuttles and templar on drones.
I think Bisu is right, harass doesn't work against Zerg any more. Just get a better economy and kill them through brute force.
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On July 14 2011 17:56 Sinedd wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2011 17:55 Motivate wrote:
protoss tears soo tasty :D:D
in other news, turn vs shine up next. the real match i was looking forward to lololol so funny HAHAHA + Show Spoiler +
i was just stating a matter of fact. grow up.
you complain about pvz being imba yet bisu is 70% pvz and movie is 60% pvz. snow didn't destroy a single one of soo's hatcheries. destroying drones isn't enough when zerg has 8+ hatcheries.
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On July 14 2011 17:56 Sinedd wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2011 17:55 Motivate wrote:
protoss tears soo tasty :D:D
in other news, turn vs shine up next. the real match i was looking forward to lololol so funny HAHAHA + Show Spoiler +
fallen brothers of aiur should rise again fear not we shall purge the swarm ...
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On July 14 2011 17:54 Zona wrote:
I have to reiterate - for all the drones and units snow destroyed - he didn't destroy a single one of soo's bases
It was without a doubt the prime reason of his downfall. You cannot let Zerg replenish as he pleases. That's what Zerg do, and what you don't want them to do if you wanna win. Storm drops must have a follow-up.
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On July 14 2011 17:57 Sawamura wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2011 17:56 Sinedd wrote:On July 14 2011 17:55 Motivate wrote:
protoss tears soo tasty :D:D
in other news, turn vs shine up next. the real match i was looking forward to lololol so funny HAHAHA + Show Spoiler + fallen brothers of aiur should rise again fear not we shall purge the swarm ...
and we will my brother !
We certainly will...
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On July 14 2011 17:55 Motivate wrote:
protoss tears soo tasty :D:D
in other news, turn vs shine up next. the real match i was looking forward to
The zerg all-in master vs. the terran all-in master. Should hopefully be crazy, I just hope they get to the late game.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES51621 Posts
Turn bottom right
shine bottom left.
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Anyone has a link for the musicvideo of this KPop? Too sexy, muuust have ^^
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