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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
July 14 2011 08:50 GMT
#181
lost too much probe snow maybe next time.....
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
July 14 2011 08:50 GMT
#182
Awesome game, Snow tired EVERYTHING but wasn't enough. Soo just kept producing low cost units / drones and held everything.
ggaemo fan
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5711 Posts
July 14 2011 08:51 GMT
#183
YES. I would recommend it. What else?
FBH #1!
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
July 14 2011 08:51 GMT
#184
Happy that soo won but Snow outplayed him so badly early game. I feel dirty for balance-whining but PvZ late-game is so difficult
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
July 14 2011 08:51 GMT
#185
Blown game by Snow.

What's the point of harassing when Zerg is on 10 Hatch and 7 base? They can make 30 Drones or 60 lings at a time ... eventually you'll get overrun if you don't build up a big army and actually go KILL the Zerg. Snow failed to kill a single Hatchery in the last 15 minutes of the game.

It's a wildly entertaining style to watch, but when you're that ahead in the midgame, build a big army and go kill the Zerg.
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
July 14 2011 08:51 GMT
#186
On July 14 2011 17:50 okum wrote:
zerg

qft

nothing to add
T H C makes ppl happy
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19379 Posts
July 14 2011 08:51 GMT
#187
That game was insane. Gj Soo. I still have snow and soo advancing so gl snow.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
July 14 2011 08:51 GMT
#188
On July 14 2011 17:50 PoP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 17:49 kuroshiroi wrote:
This game is very reminiscent of Bisu vs. Roro, except I think Snow is going to win here.

Edit: And just as I say that, soo brings a shit ton of units and just kills Snow. GG


There was absolutely no way for Snow to win at that point? One mining base vs 3-4 :/

Well, he might have won if he did less harass and more defence and secured his second mining base. But soo is pretty damn good at ZvP so...
Fly Jaedong, fly!
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
July 14 2011 08:52 GMT
#189
On July 14 2011 17:50 valaki wrote:
Awesome game, Snow tired EVERYTHING but wasn't enough. Soo just kept producing low cost units / drones and held everything.

well it helped that snow never destroyed any of soo's bases
taking out drones is one thing, but when zerg has 8+ hatcheries just one round of larvae = all drones back
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
purpose
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden1017 Posts
July 14 2011 08:52 GMT
#190
wow snow did so many good things and still it seemed to not hurt zerg at all who could just a-move lings, hydras and lurkers against storm and reavers to win.

You really do understand why pvz is so freaking hard when you watch a game like this.
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
July 14 2011 08:52 GMT
#191
swarm ftw! mass units from soO
Entaro[AoV]
Profile Joined July 2009
United States184 Posts
July 14 2011 08:52 GMT
#192
That was one of the best late-game PvZ I've ever seen.
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Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
July 14 2011 08:52 GMT
#193
On July 14 2011 17:51 Sinedd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 17:50 okum wrote:
zerg

qft

nothing to add

oh please

snow played well but soo played better. snow's late game sucked.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
July 14 2011 08:53 GMT
#194
CB is an awesome macro map.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
yesplz
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States295 Posts
July 14 2011 08:53 GMT
#195
Late game snow lost more resources with each shuttle drop than the zerg lost from the lost drones. Repeat times 10 and snow comes out with a huge deficit
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
July 14 2011 08:53 GMT
#196
I'm a huge Snow fan and I do think late game ZvP can be tough, but I really think that was just a blown game by him. By storming drones endlessly he just delays how long it takes for Zerg to mine out, because he's not actually bothering to build an army and take advantage of the mining interrupt. It's a flashy way of choking yourself to death. All that money spent harassing could have been spent assembling a huge army, holding your bases with Storm/Reaver, and then rolling out, which never happened.
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
July 14 2011 08:53 GMT
#197
On July 14 2011 17:52 Motivate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 17:51 Sinedd wrote:
On July 14 2011 17:50 okum wrote:
zerg

qft

nothing to add

oh please

snow played well but soo played better. snow's late game sucked.

define better please
T H C makes ppl happy
Masheyoon
Profile Joined October 2009
United States781 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-14 08:57:19
July 14 2011 08:53 GMT
#198
That was actually almost depressing. =/ In spite of the relentless harass from Snow, he still couldn't take it. He should've expanded earlier, sure, but Soo could've spared himself the economic battering by placing a few spore colonies at each of his expansions. It would've cost him, but not nearly as much as all the drones he lost.

Doesn't really matter, I suppose, since he he won.

EDIT: Watching the replay, I see that Snow was at fault for his loss. Too much time and effort spent on taking out drones and not nearly as much time and effort spent on securing his own bases, not to mention he didn't take out a single one of Soo's bases.
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
July 14 2011 08:53 GMT
#199
soO zvp is soO good

Snow always gives us entertaining games tough. But he is so busy harrassing he forgets to expand and defend.
Kalent
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada253 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-14 08:54:19
July 14 2011 08:53 GMT
#200
I don't understand PvZ... Kill 60 of drones through harass, the zerg can just rebuild them almost instantly.
Korean-Canadian who spends way too much time on Afreeca
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