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[SPL] Samsung KHAN v WeMade FOX

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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4365 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 11:14:05
June 26 2011 13:26 GMT
#1
[image loading]Banner and section headers by HawaiianPig!


2010-2011 Shinhan Bank ProLeague Round 6 Week 4
Monday June 27 09:00 GMT (+00:00)


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[image loading]Samsung KHAN vs WeMade FOX[image loading]
« New Empire of the Sun »
« Neo Aztec »
« La Mancha »
« Circuit Breaker »
« Alternative »
« Icarus »
« Neo Beltway »


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OVERVIEW

Everything is on the line. Neither team can afford to slip now. Four teams, Hwaseung, STX, WeMade and Samsung are fighting for two spots. Someone will have to miss out.

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Graph by Simplistik


Khan have the advantage of being a win ahead of their three rivals. They also have a game in hand on OZ and STX. However, with the exception of STX they have an inferior games differential, which would be blown out to impossible to bridge levels should they lose today.

FOX are a win behind KHAN, but they have the equal best game differential of the four and a game in hand on OZ and STX.

With STX and OZ playing each other tomorrow, this match becomes even more critical.

HEAD TO HEAD RESULTS

WeMade are up 3-2 in the head to head record this season, including a 4-0 shutout in Round 2. Khan however won the most recent encounter, with their strong protoss line overcoming WeMade's terran heavy outfit.

Interestingly, no KHAN zergs have beaten a FOX player in proleague this season.

KEY PLAYERS

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(P)JangBi is on a roll. 16-2 for June so far, including individual leagues. He will be crucial and should the match go to an Ace, he would be my pick. WeMade's strongest players are Terrans, and Baby/Mind are almost certain to be sent on Beltway. Everyone knows just how good Jangbi is against Terrans when on form.

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(T)BaBy is surprisingly undefeated against Stork with a 3-0 record. He is also undefeated against Grape and Brave, while being 50% against Jangbi. This strong record against the formidable Khan protoss line will be essential to WeMade's chances.

FINAL PREDICTION


It's going to be close. Very very close. Jangbi's recent resurgence has been followed by Shine. Stork's slump has been matched by Mind. The emergence of the rookie Reality has been matched by WeMade's own in P7GAB. They are both highly dependent on one race and have one which is much weaker than the others. There isn't much separating these teams.

I feel that this will come to an ace match. It could very well depend on whether January or Trolluary decides to rock up and whether Wooki gets plunged in the deep end again or not.

(P)Stork < New Empire of the Sun > (T)BaBy
(P)JangBi < Neo Aztec > (Z)RorO
(T)TurN < La Mancha > (T)Mind
(T)Reality < Circuit Breaker > (P)Wooki
(P)Brave < Alternative > (Z)Shine
(Z)great < Icarus > (Z)herO[jOin]
(P)JangBi < Neo Beltway > (T)Mind

Should KHAN make it to the ace match (and January sends a proper ace) I think Khan will take it in the end 4-3.



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+ Show Spoiler [Spoiler-Free] +
+ Show Spoiler [Set 1] +
(T)Reality « New Empire of the Sun » (T)BaBy

+ Show Spoiler [Set 2] +
(P)JangBi « Neo Aztec » (P)Wooki

+ Show Spoiler [Set 3] +
(P)Stork « La Mancha » (T)Mind

+ Show Spoiler [Set 4] +
(P)Grape « Circuit Breaker » (Z)RorO

+ Show Spoiler [Set 5] +
(P)Brave « Alternative » (Z)herO[jOin]

+ Show Spoiler [Set 6] +
« Icarus »

+ Show Spoiler [Ace Match] +
« Neo Beltway »

+ Show Spoiler [Overall] +
(T)Reality « New Empire of the Sun » (T)BaBy
(P)JangBi « Neo Aztec » (P)Wooki
(P)Stork « La Mancha » (T)Mind
(P)Grape « Circuit Breaker » (Z)RorO
(P)Brave « Alternative » (Z)herO[jOin]
« Icarus »
« Neo Beltway »


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+ Show Spoiler [Spoiler-Free] +
+ Show Spoiler [Set 1] +
(T)Reality « New Empire of the Sun » (T)BaBy

+ Show Spoiler [Set 2] +
(P)JangBi « Neo Aztec » (P)Wooki

+ Show Spoiler [Set 3] +
(P)Stork « La Mancha » (T)Mind

+ Show Spoiler [Set 4] +
(P)Grape « Circuit Breaker » (Z)RorO

+ Show Spoiler [Set 5] +
(P)Brave « Alternative » (Z)herO[jOin]

+ Show Spoiler [Set 6] +
« Icarus »

+ Show Spoiler [Ace Match] +
« Neo Beltway »

+ Show Spoiler [Overall] +
(T)Reality « New Empire of the Sun » (T)BaBy
(P)JangBi « Neo Aztec » (P)Wooki
(P)Stork « La Mancha » (T)Mind
(P)Grape « Circuit Breaker » (Z)RorO
(P)Brave « Alternative » (Z)herO[jOin]
« Icarus »
« Neo Beltway »
SAMSUNG KHAN 4:1 WEMADE FOX

[image loading] wins!



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+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
Poll: Would you recommend KHAN v FOX Set 1?

Yes (10)
 
83%

If you're a fan of the teams (2)
 
17%

No (0)
 
0%

12 total votes

Your vote: Would you recommend KHAN v FOX Set 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you're a fan of the teams


+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
Poll: Would you recommend KHAN v FOX Set 2?

Yes (7)
 
47%

If you are a fan of the teams (5)
 
33%

No (3)
 
20%

15 total votes

Your vote: Would you recommend KHAN v FOX Set 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you are a fan of the teams


+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
Poll: Would you recommend KHAN v FOX Set 3?

Yes (9)
 
60%

No (5)
 
33%

If you are a fan of the teams (1)
 
7%

15 total votes

Your vote: Would you recommend KHAN v FOX Set 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you are a fan of the teams


+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
Poll: Would you recommend KHAN v FOX Set 4?

Yes (18)
 
82%

If you are a fan of the teams (3)
 
14%

No (1)
 
5%

22 total votes

Your vote: Would you recommend KHAN v FOX Set 4?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you are a fan of the teams


+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Poll: Would you recommend KHAN v FOX Set 5?

How did you lose that lol (8)
 
62%

Yes (4)
 
31%

No (1)
 
8%

13 total votes

Your vote: Would you recommend KHAN v FOX Set 5?

(Vote): How did you lose that lol
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +

+ Show Spoiler [Ace Match] +



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Sucker for nostalgia
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4365 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 13:30:30
June 26 2011 13:28 GMT
#2
Poll: Who will win?

Samsung KHAN (25)
 
76%

WeMade FOX (8)
 
24%

33 total votes

Your vote: Who will win?

(Vote): Samsung KHAN
(Vote): WeMade FOX





Poll: Who do you want to win?

KHAN (24)
 
57%

FOX (17)
 
40%

Some sort of draw so neither gets points and my team makes the playoffs (1)
 
2%

42 total votes

Your vote: Who do you want to win?

(Vote): FOX
(Vote): KHAN
(Vote): Some sort of draw so neither gets points and my team makes the playoffs





Poll: Can either side make the playoffs?

KHAN will (25)
 
71%

FOX will (9)
 
26%

Neither will (1)
 
3%

35 total votes

Your vote: Can either side make the playoffs?

(Vote): FOX will
(Vote): KHAN will
(Vote): Neither will



Sucker for nostalgia
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 15:53:56
June 26 2011 14:33 GMT
#3
Pretty important game in terms of playoffs. Not that it really matters to most fans here(KT/CJ/SKT1 are in already).

For Khan (current #5, 1 game ahead of WMF, 1.5 games ahead of STX and Oz), a win here puts them just about into the playoffs. And all they have to do is beat Ace(likely) or Oz(coin flip) to get in. Hopefully this is the case so they get extra time to prepare for the playoffs.

But if they lose here, they likely have to beat Oz and Ace to get in, as Oz and Wemade both have tie-breaker against Khan. Of course, it's possible 2 of Wemade/Oz/STX keep failing and Khan get in by default, but I really don't want it to come down to that.

For Wemade (current #6, 0.5 games ahead of Oz and STX) situation a bit more muddy. If they win, they control their own destiny. But if they lose, they'll be more or less tied with Oz and for all practical purposes, 1 game ahead of STX due to tie-breaker.

While I want Khan to win, I do wish they end up in 6th spot at the end. KT is a much more favorable MU for Khan, with their lack of zergs and Flash not auto-win against Khan protosses. Whereas the Stars lineup counters Khan in many ways.

Anyone who cares about rankings can look here. http://www.e-sports.or.kr/KeSPA07Eng.kea#rank
Meh
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 15:00:47
June 26 2011 14:55 GMT
#4
LOL what's with the lack of faith in stork?! He would rip baby a new one if they played!

Go khan, we can make it!
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 15:08:02
June 26 2011 15:07 GMT
#5
Lets go Wemade. Lets hope our current form can propel ourselves into the playoffs. I can't remember the last time Wemade made it into any form of Proleague playoffs :o(. I think that was when the team was still sponsored by Pantech.
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
June 26 2011 15:10 GMT
#6
Yea i agree, Stork would still be a favourite against Baby no matter their current form (well they arent THAT bad)

KHAN jjang!
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13046 Posts
June 26 2011 15:12 GMT
#7
KHAN should win tomorow. Jangbi is back and Stork is not failing hard as before.

Too bad im not home when games are played but I hope we win this and seal our playoff spot.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
June 26 2011 17:47 GMT
#8
There's a funny image that I remember seeing that went something like "Stork is in the line up? TYVM club" and like 4 of them were wemade players cause

Pure is 5-0 against Stork
Midas is 7-3 against Stork
Roro is 2-0 against Stork
Baby is 3-0 against Stork

so wemade is the ultimate anti stork team.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19255 Posts
June 26 2011 17:50 GMT
#9
On June 27 2011 02:47 Milkis wrote:
There's a funny image that I remember seeing that went something like "Stork is in the line up? TYVM club" and like 4 of them were wemade players cause

Pure is 5-0 against Stork
Midas is 7-3 against Stork
Roro is 2-0 against Stork
Baby is 3-0 against Stork

so wemade is the ultimate anti stork team.

That's not even funny its so bad. What's happening Storkuuu?
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Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
June 26 2011 17:53 GMT
#10
It's also worth noting Jangbi is the chairman of that club
Yxes2211
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1587 Posts
June 26 2011 18:01 GMT
#11
Plz win Khan keep Fox down with Oz D:
Jaedong and Baby
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3615 Posts
June 26 2011 21:52 GMT
#12
Predictions:

(T)Reality « New Empire of the Sun » (T)Mind
(P)Stork « Neo Aztec » (Z)Shine
(P)Grape « La Mancha » (T)Midas
(P)JangBi « Circuit Breaker » (Z)RorO
(Z)great « Alternative » (P)Wooki
(T)TurN « Icarus » (Z)herO[jOin]
(Z)great « Neo Beltway » (T)By.Baby

Samsung KHAN 3:4 WeMade FOX


Neither Samsung and KHAN seem to have any maps where the same players play regularly, or even the same race. Very bizarre. So these predictions are almost certainly almost completely wrong.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
June 26 2011 22:00 GMT
#13
I dont know about predicting Great for Beltway, especially when Baby's vZ is rather powerful.

I like FOX, but KHAN should take this... Cos i like them more xD
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
lyAsakura
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1414 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 22:01:30
June 26 2011 22:00 GMT
#14
On June 27 2011 06:52 VGhost wrote:
Predictions:

(T)Reality « New Empire of the Sun » (T)Mind
(P)Stork « Neo Aztec » (Z)Shine
(P)Grape « La Mancha » (T)Midas
(P)JangBi « Circuit Breaker » (Z)RorO
(Z)great « Alternative » (P)Wooki
(T)TurN « Icarus » (Z)herO[jOin]
(Z)great « Neo Beltway » (T)By.Baby

Samsung KHAN 3:4 WeMade FOX


Neither Samsung and KHAN seem to have any maps where the same players play regularly, or even the same race. Very bizarre. So these predictions are almost certainly almost completely wrong.


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
mfw Ace match player doesn't play in the other six games.


Predict 4-1 WMF win.
WeMade FOX would be a deadly SC2 team.
FranzF1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile1710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 04:20:11
June 26 2011 22:39 GMT
#15
Samsung KHAN 4-0 I believe!

(T)Reality « New Empire of the Sun » (T)Mind
(P)JangBi « Neo Aztec » (T)BaBy
(P)Grape « La Mancha » (Z)RorO
(P)Stork « Circuit Breaker » (Z)Shine

damn wrong guy ;D
Member #99999^99 of the fanclub of Grape, Reality and TurN
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 23:05:58
June 26 2011 23:05 GMT
#16
On June 27 2011 07:39 FranzF1 wrote:
Samsung KHAN 4-0 I believe!

(T)Reality « New Empire of the Sun » (T)Mind
(P)JangBi « Neo Aztec » (T)BaBy
(P)Grape « La Mancha » (Z)RorO
(P)Stork
« Circuit Breaker » (Z)Shine


Roro and Grape both win on La Mancha, i like <3
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
Wohmfg
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1292 Posts
June 26 2011 23:12 GMT
#17
KHAN tosses fighting!
BW4Life!
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3615 Posts
June 26 2011 23:14 GMT
#18
On June 27 2011 07:00 lyAsakura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 06:52 VGhost wrote:
Predictions:

(T)Reality « New Empire of the Sun » (T)Mind
(P)Stork « Neo Aztec » (Z)Shine
(P)Grape « La Mancha » (T)Midas
(P)JangBi « Circuit Breaker » (Z)RorO
(Z)great « Alternative » (P)Wooki
(T)TurN « Icarus » (Z)herO[jOin]
(Z)great « Neo Beltway » (T)By.Baby

Samsung KHAN 3:4 WeMade FOX


Neither Samsung and KHAN seem to have any maps where the same players play regularly, or even the same race. Very bizarre. So these predictions are almost certainly almost completely wrong.

[image loading]
mfw Ace match player doesn't play in the other six games.

Predict 4-1 WMF win.


In my defense, Baby often comes out on the best Terran map, which there isn't in this set until ace. I guess La Mancha instead of Midas is most likely.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
June 27 2011 03:43 GMT
#19
I'd think Roro can beat almost any Protoss these days. His turtle defense is insane. Go FOX! Sadly I cannot stay up for this one.
Brood War forever!
Zyferous
Profile Joined September 2010
United States270 Posts
June 27 2011 04:14 GMT
#20
I hope wemade wins this, especially with those rumors circling about
Jaedong forever.
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