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Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
June 11 2011 09:03 GMT
#1741
On June 11 2011 18:02 DarkMatter_ wrote:
why is that game recommended? it's the same kind of crap that we got from all those jd vs flash finals

14cc into timing push while the zerg plays super greedy

yea h but its good crap. Brutal flash.
☺
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-11 09:03:26
June 11 2011 09:03 GMT
#1742
On June 11 2011 18:01 Zona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 18:00 nepeta wrote:
Even when Zero scouted Flash's build, he assumed Flash would carry on his build as if nothing happened; bit of an underestimation of the best player in the world. He should have assumed either a delay in the build, or a faster timed attack. While Flash can turtle like a Flash, it is unwise to assume he wouldn't go for a quick stab, it's a risk you can't take with that man

I don't think he even interpreted what he scouted correctly.


He didn't see the armory - the Ling didn't go down far enough past the CC.

I'm almost sure of it :p

Maybe expecting fast vessels?
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
June 11 2011 09:03 GMT
#1743
On June 11 2011 17:59 corumjhaelen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 17:58 Zona wrote:
On June 11 2011 17:57 HawaiianPig wrote:
Suddenly I'm wary of my 3-2 prediction. I'm not too confident in ZerO's ability to adapt to Flash not playing typical Flash style.

You expected Flash to play in a finals with his "typical style"?

Honestly, I'm not sure what's Flash "typical" style. This guy has used so many different builds and style throughout his carrier, it's incredible.

Not really Flash's builds so far have been variants of his typical 4-scvs BO. Little tweaks here and there won him 2 OSLs and 2 MSLs in these recent years.
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-11 09:04:14
June 11 2011 09:03 GMT
#1744
He saw the armoury, he started a hydralisk den possibly to do a fake hoping Flash would scan and prepare for a non-existent lurker threat (bunkers, tanks, no turrets, etc). Basically use Flash's game sense against him.

Flash though was about 5 minutes ahead of Zero and just stomped him on the spot.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
June 11 2011 09:03 GMT
#1745
Zero looks shaken.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
June 11 2011 09:03 GMT
#1746
On June 11 2011 18:02 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 18:02 Iplaythings wrote:
well if you ask me JD didnt do a thing better vs that push so stop saying he woulda done better



if someone had a memory.. sigh

Jaedong<14CC period no questions.

3hatch before pool = 14 cc

this valk build is 100% hard counter to 3hatch mutalisks no matter how you turn it zero held out of (maybe cus of rambs) better than JD that map.

Say what you want, doesnt change the fact, its like 3 hatch hydra break vs 2 stargate corsair
In the woods, there lurks..
Hero.SP
Profile Joined March 2010
Chile711 Posts
June 11 2011 09:03 GMT
#1747
Nice valkyries on 7 o'clock
"well you know, the hardest part is the gg, I mean you have to be aware anytime your opponent can type gg, and you have to gg just right after him." - Flash
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
June 11 2011 09:03 GMT
#1748
Zero looks rather nervous
While Flash looks quite confident

Oooh snap.
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
June 11 2011 09:03 GMT
#1749
Zero looks... shaken up from game one
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8091 Posts
June 11 2011 09:03 GMT
#1750
Sexy start to the series, hopefully zero gives a little more fight than he did last game otherwise the finals will be over way too soon
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
June 11 2011 09:03 GMT
#1751
Flash rubbing his hands together
easy prey
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
June 11 2011 09:03 GMT
#1752
On June 11 2011 18:02 potatoedoughnut wrote:
I feel like Zero just went "huh that's weird" when he scouted instead of recognizing/adjusting to what he saw.

you really underestimate bw progamers
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
June 11 2011 09:04 GMT
#1753
On June 11 2011 18:02 Iplaythings wrote:
well if you ask me JD didnt do a thing better vs that push so stop saying he woulda done better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhlGRkhe0T8

if someone had a memory.. sigh

That was a much more innovative build than what Flash did here. Flash did the MnM+valk push before and Zero even scouted it.
thOr6136
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Slovenia1775 Posts
June 11 2011 09:04 GMT
#1754
On June 11 2011 18:00 Finale wrote:
[image loading]
Please quote this poll often to ensure that it is widely seen and receives a decent vote.


Poll: Would you recommend game 1?

Yes (126)
 
71%

No (36)
 
20%

If you have time. (15)
 
8%

177 total votes

Your vote: Would you recommend game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time.



gogo :D
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
June 11 2011 09:04 GMT
#1755
i think the hydra den was in anticipation of potential mech, althoug hthere was only 1 factory
☺
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
June 11 2011 09:04 GMT
#1756
Set 2 coming
Lee Ssang/ Lee Shin/ Kim Jung Woo/ Kim Min Chul/Jun Tae Yang/Park Soo Ho/Lee Jung Hoon/Choi Sung Hoon/ Moon Sung Won/Park Ji Soo/ Lee Ho Joon/ Jang Min Chul/ Kim Seung Chul/SaSe/IdrA/Ret Fighting! BW4Life
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
June 11 2011 09:04 GMT
#1757
Cmon Zero, stomp this kid.
웅진 멘쓰즈
Nightfly
Profile Joined May 2011
150 Posts
June 11 2011 09:04 GMT
#1758
On June 11 2011 18:03 Spica wrote:
Zero looks rather nervous
While Flash looks quite confident

Oooh snap.


3-0 INC!
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-11 09:04:41
June 11 2011 09:04 GMT
#1759
On June 11 2011 18:02 doothegee wrote:
Flash is going to cheese this game.


isn't this the map that's imba for terran? he'll save the cheese for game 3
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
June 11 2011 09:04 GMT
#1760
Flash is the Magnus Carlsen of Starcraft. Pure talent. Pure genius.
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