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The military men are coming out to play. Make no mistake, they are far from the punching bags of old. On May 06 2011 17:57 Milkis wrote: But let's talk about Ace. If it wasn't for winner's league, Ace wouldn't be last. While they may not be able to make it to the playoffs this season, next year you can expect to be strong contenders, as much of their recruits are only on their first year of military service. They've shown great momentum starting with the end of last round up to now, and I fully expect them to continue with their momentum. And maybe progamers will actually mean it when they say "Ace is a strong team".
The terrans of old have been the driving force behind ACE's revival. Iris, firebathero and more recently Piano have been dominant of late. FBH has perfected mass air play in TvT, Iris's aggression has been devastating and Piano has shown bio control noone ever thought he had. Ggaemo has been a bit up and down recently but has shown strong performances this season. Together these four make up the nucleus of a strong team.
In their way today is Woongjin, the family team with perhaps the most well-rounded and deep lineup in the league (CJ fans may feel otherwise
).
Neo.G_Soulkey is now 7-0 in Round 5. He has been specialising in destroying terran mech, it will be very interesting to see him come up agaisnt FBH. He leads a lineup consisting of Zero, Light, Really and free, all excellent players on their day.
This match will be close but I think Woongjin have too many cards to play. Predicting a 4-2 Woongjin win.
M18M < New Bloody Ridge >
ZerO PianO < Circuit Breaker >
Really firebathero < New Empire of the Sun >
Flying Iris < Icarus >
Neo.G_Soulkey ggaemo < Neo Aztec >
free Peace < Alternative >
Light < La Mancha >
+ Show Spoiler [Spoiler-Free] + + Show Spoiler [Overall] + + Show Spoiler [Spoiler-Free] + + Show Spoiler [Overall] + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler [Game 1] + Poll: Would you recommend Stars v ACE Set 1? No (6)
55%
If you have time (4)
36%
Yes (1)
9%
11 total votes
Your vote: Would you recommend Stars v ACE Set 1?
(Vote ): Yes (Vote ): No (Vote ): If you have time
+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] + The stream cut out partway through the game.
+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] + There was no stream for this game.
+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] + Poll: Would you recommend Stars v ACE Set 4? If you have time (5)
45%
No (4)
36%
Yes (2)
18%
11 total votes
Your vote: Would you recommend Stars v ACE Set 4?
(Vote ): Yes (Vote ): No (Vote ): If you have time
+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] + Poll: Would you recommend Stars v ACE Set 5? Yes (6)
50%
No (3)
25%
If you have time (3)
25%
12 total votes
Your vote: Would you recommend Stars v ACE Set 5?
(Vote ): Yes (Vote ): No (Vote ): If you have time
+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] + Poll: Would you recommend Stars v ACE Set 6? No (8)
57%
Yes (5)
36%
If you have time (1)
7%
14 total votes
Your vote: Would you recommend Stars v ACE Set 6?
(Vote ): Yes (Vote ): No (Vote ): If you have time
+ Show Spoiler [Ace Match] + Poll: Would you recommend Stars v ACE Ace match? If you have time (4)
50%
Yes (2)
25%
No (2)
25%
8 total votes
Your vote: Would you recommend Stars v ACE Ace match?
(Vote ): Yes (Vote ): No (Vote ): If you have time
The Incomparable nanashin The Excellent fold Credit to HawaiianPig for graphics!
I haven't been able to cheer on the ACE thread for awhile I also don't have enough time to watch this game live, but I give my early blessings to the aviators!
It makes me sad anytime Stars play Ace ;_; . Should be an interesting matchup for PianO. Almost hoping he wins his match :x
"Don't be distracted by the what if's, should'ves, and if onlys. The one thing you choose yourself - THAT is the truth of your universe." Fav T: Sea, Leta, Really Fav P: Free, Snow Fav Z: ZerO, GGplay, Jaedong, Neo.G_Soulkey
May the force be with you, Air Force ACE. I have to sleep.
United States 5582 Posts
Awesome OP. Many kudos to you for not making the thread at the last minute! Although I love Woongjin too, it's pretty much mandatory for everyone to cheer for ACE whenever they have a match, so go ACE!
On May 17 2011 12:58 Doughboy wrote: It makes me sad anytime Stars play Ace ;_; .
This. I love both of them, but for the love of my FPL team please let this get to an ace match with Zero and either FBH, ggaemo, or Piano haha. I feel like ACE has the possibility to bring this to a game 7, so hopefully they do! I'm expecting some exciting games tonight!
On May 17 2011 13:15 Spica wrote: Awesome OP. Many kudos to you for not making the thread at the last minute! Although I love Woongjin too, it's pretty much mandatory for everyone to cheer for ACE whenever they have a match, so go ACE!
Lol thanks! Predictions are up!
I wanna see firebats rape queens
This should be interesting. I definitely want to see FBH/Iris against ZerO/SK !
Firebathero will show these cross dressing womenly zerg what real men eat for breakfast! Frosted Loops~!
CAN YOU SMELL WHAT THE ROCK IS COOKING! Ace fighting~
All I shall predict is: Really + Soulkey shall win (FANBOYISM) Ace shall win match
Damn, was going to make a thread today Stars 4-1
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
looking forward to seeing my boy pak sang woo tear it up.
On May 17 2011 13:15 Spica wrote: Awesome OP. Many kudos to you for not making the thread at the last minute! Although I love Woongjin too, it's pretty much mandatory for everyone to cheer for ACE whenever they have a match, so go ACE!
Woongjin fighting! 4-0 easy.
Actually, going to change to 4-2: Peace > WOOOOOOOOOOOOOON/happyzerg Braq > hon_sin M18M < free ggaemo < ZerO Iris < Light Much < Soulkey Bit mirror heavy...
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
ALLEYCAT BLUES 50121 Posts
ACE!! ACE!! EFF BEE HETCH!!! AI RISSSS!!!!
Netherlands 45349 Posts
So many ACE fans, I actually hope that this goes to ace match and then FBH takes it with ZerO and Light taking their respective games. its all a dream :>.
against better judgment i have voted for ACE. ive voted for them pretty much every game since proleague started again. i hope they will bestow my continued faith in them with a victory over a very deep team RAWR .
just hope we get a stream and everyone doesn't just go for skt/cj. been ok the last few days so should hopefully be ok
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
On May 17 2011 16:00 sixfour wrote: Damn, was going to make a thread today Stars 4-1
Sorry dude, sniped it early! This will be my last one for a while so I won't steal from you anymore
freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee v peace half right
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Peace, red zerg 1 Free, white toss 7
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
On May 17 2011 18:06 sixfour wrote: Peace, red zerg 1 Free, white toss 7
LR all yours
Peace, the guy who i thought won't even appear this season when i was putting him on my AT. And so far got -17 from him, fuck yeah.
standard enough so far, peace with standard pool timing, free forge expand, nexus before any cannons but timing should be fine
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Light girl in the audience
and a manner pylon in peace's natural for good measure. second cannon going up, peace now able to expand after cancel
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
fairly fast (?) hydra den for peace, core going up for free
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
free researching +1, peace might have very good timing for hydra break, sairs not out to scout yet
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Hydras makes their appearance with speed probe still alive scouting
free adding more gates/cannons, a few hydras waiting outside his natural for a critical mass it seems
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
+1 finished, free replacing busted cannons and rushing to templars asap
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
peace unable to break natural, free now looks to have enough zealots to force him back
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Free's zealots going Rambo... pull them back D: loses a lot of them to hydras Storm finishes though
storm is finished and free's worked out just how all-in this is by running speedlots to peace's bases, looking good for free
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Lol hydras let the zealot live and it kills another drone free holding up ok for now
A quite scary force of templar and zealot moves out and about the base and chase off the hydras
peace has burrow lol, snipes some templar with it
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
what on earth free, cast damned storms faster:<
Free donating HT. What's he doing?
Free is losing lots of HTs
On May 17 2011 18:18 legaton wrote: Free donating HT. What's he doing?
being free, i suppose
loses another couple of templar to burrowed hydras sigh
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
free just has too many zealots at this stage, causing massive damage and peace gg's
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
I would so love to see lurkers against all those zeals.
still he breaks in drones in main going down, zeals everywhere reinforcements on the way gg, thank god
Zealots move in to the natural! nice storm drops on the drones and ggs called by peace
Entertaining effort by Peace
Finally some good storms! Zealots did the business Peace ggsPoll: Would you recommend Stars v ACE Set 1? No (6)
55%
If you have time (4)
36%
Yes (1)
9%
11 total votes
Your vote: Would you recommend Stars v ACE Set 1?
(Vote ): Yes (Vote ): No (Vote ): If you have time
forgot to make lurk upgrade? or just timing..
Well, that didn't work. Nicely played by Free.
Who needs HTs when I have so many zealots. Then tempted Peace to snipe the HTs and decreasing the hydra count...
On May 17 2011 18:20 LV_426 wrote: forgot to make lurk upgrade? or just timing..
lair seemed super late and he'd used all his early gas on many hydras. after he couldn't break early then needed to drone up before doing anything, by that time it was too late
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Really v Braq 2/2 on calling ace lineup woo
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Really, brown 1 FBH, yellow 7
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
yeaaah yeaaaahhh son 박상우 화이팅~
Really with rax, gas FBH with much later rax and cc seconds later Really straight into factory
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Both scouting clockwise with same timing, Really now taking expansion Really loses scouting scv to 3 rines FBH also loses scout to vulture, fast port for really
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
port also incoming for fbh, making wraiths
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Really getting cloak, fbh adding more factories and armory
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
really wraith harass achieves nothing, except forcing fbh to waste a scan
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
oh yes. Free won! now go FBH
Really taking a third at 3 well before FBH does the same at 9, some minor skirmishes in the centre
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
really big spread from fbh...
and really has a valk siege lines being traded a little, wraiths also exchanging volleys
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
really taking fourth base largish vulture tradeoff looks to be slightly in really's favour
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
both players carving up the map vertically, taking more bases few siege tanks exchanged in centre of map, really nearly able to take out fbh floating rax which might be annoying
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Really is double expoing while pushing in the center. Really's tanks barely in range of FBH's 6.
really adding double armories and more starports, looks to have air superiority already anyway
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
FBH with 4 more Starports O_o FBH's siege line in the center is destroyed.
fbh now also massing starports important siegeoff outside six which fbh holds
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Holy shit huge tank push from Really! Vultures get into FBH's bases at the top left!
really breaking fbh's siege line, also has stream of vultures being irritating killing scv's up near 11
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
FBH now with starports in double figures
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Moar starports from both!
large valk/wraith battle, really looked to have the best of it fbh must have at least 15 starports now
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Air battle. FBH lost all valks.
really inches forward with tanks, also takes out fbh barracks
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Really only has like 12 starports, how pathetic
really sacking some scv's, fbh looking to pick off some tanks with airforce. really now adding more factories
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Oh boy it's wraith valk time
LOL FBH building mass turrets at Really's expo! now cleaned up FBH also shot down some of his tanks AIR BATTLE!!!! FBH came ahead!
fbh killing some of his own tanks
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
fbh wins large air battle!
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
FBH doesn't belive in valkyries.
really able to take out a chunk of fbh's air force over his 5, now sieging 6 and forcing a lift
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Large air battle! Really won that.
So after all this time valks are finally getting some screen time
fbh has very few tanks, mostly gols and then tries to take out some tanks with air, really's air comes in to clean up then streamuuuuu
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Really Goliaths marching to FBH's Expos. Air Battle Stream down.
nanashin nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Epicness of the battle to come has killed the stream.
If anyone can still watch, please keep us updated!
sucks that it had to crash during a critical moment of the game
streamer afk?
On May 17 2011 18:59 sushiman wrote: streamer afk?
Really far away I think.
Ok guys try plu? 1.plu.cn you need to use internet explorer and download some plugin thingy, trying to find out
would imagine plu is showing the other series tbqh
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
On May 17 2011 19:04 sixfour wrote: would imagine plu is showing the other series tbqh
I wouldn't know, haven't used plu before Somebody please save us!
they normally show the series that viewers want more and i guess skt/cj would be a bigger draw than stars/ace
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Russian Federation 74 Posts
Good news. Too bad we didn't get to see it. :/
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
FBH's comeback power is immeasurable.
On May 17 2011 19:04 sixfour wrote: would imagine plu is showing the other series tbqh
yeah its showing SKT vs CJ
fortunately...+ Show Spoiler [skt/cj] + looks like cj going 3-0 soon with horang2 still to come and skt having used no protoss yet
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
ALLEYCAT BLUES 50121 Posts
alternately you can download Daum potplayer and join a free stream.
Cheers for the update Fortus!
I think Really is winning because his Gols are at FBH's second main and nat(top left) killing stuff but I saw him retreat his air army because of FBH's reinforcing gols. I think Really won but I don't know, the game might not be over yet. Edit: Noooooo Really!
On May 17 2011 19:10 NicksonReyes wrote: I think Really is winning because his Gols are at FBH's second main and nat(top left) killing stuff but I saw him retreat his air army because of FBH's reinforcing gols. I think Really won but I don't know, the game might not be over yet.
that's what i was thinking but check above...
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
nanashin ever coming back? o_o;
What? How did FBH win that :S Pity we missed it...
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
FBH has turned into some kind of PL monster, amazing.
Russian Federation 74 Posts
3 Set: Light[NoN.ge] vs Much[gm]
Australia 14568 Posts
On May 17 2011 19:17 kuroshiroi wrote: FBH has turned into some kind of PL monster, amazing.
It's the discipline from airforce that has channeled his powers that and he's pretty good at TvT nonetheless damn glad he won
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
light against a protoss that beat flash the other day, i'm scared
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
wow cant believe FBH won this )) happy happy happy !!!
Much!! C'mon old man! I wish I could watch
come on grandpa toss win this!!
I am so gonna watch FBH's comeback when vods are up, really curious how he did that. MUCH FIGHTING
I want to see some ACE
ALLEYCAT BLUES 50121 Posts
ugh there are no free streams for this on DAUM T_T.
MUCH CAN ACTUALLY WIN THIS OMGOMGOMG
I keep getting an error when I try to download the plu plugins and the daum potplayer so I'm giving up for now. Will still be online to update results based on the KeSPA website. Send me a PM if you work out a fix for the stream!
Much HAS THIS. GGGGGGGGG AIRFORCEEE!!! grandpa toss > invisible terran
Russian Federation 74 Posts
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
cmon ace! strive for that playoff!
fold looks to be switching to this game
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Wow, ACE is doing great :D
fold's showing this now it looks like, replay of much vs light, much went carriers
Russian Federation 74 Posts
1.plu.cn - stream: PPLive & PPStream
OMG this game was awesome. Much left on one base killing everything with carriers!
nana stream is back
fold switch stream now. thanks fold.
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
soulkey vs m18m. should be an easy one for sk
Fenrax
United States 5018 Posts
MAIN vs ANTI come on Neo Bonjwa
soulkey at 6 m18m at 3 sk scouting correctly
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
soulkey beat stats last game, doubting m18m here :/
soulkey taking 9 super early
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
M18M doesn't have a chance here, one of the biggest mismatches I have ever seen.
sk also now taking his actual natural. clears out scouting probe. m18m with 2 cannons/nexus/gate, all somewhat standard from him
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
On May 17 2011 20:03 kuroshiroi wrote: M18M doesn't have a chance here, one of the biggest mismatches I have ever seen.
not even the biggest mismatch today+ Show Spoiler [skt/cj] +
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
hydra den finished for SK. probe finds 9, stargate starting
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
core/forge spinning, extra cannon being added as he sees hydras
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
two zealots shutting down one of sk's bases, of which he's increased to five
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
looks like forge upgrade just finished before sk took it out
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
fold's stream black out with audio ?
sk hiding spire at 10 o'clock, group of zealots moving out, sk has nice hydra mass
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Fenrax
United States 5018 Posts
On May 17 2011 20:08 Arceus wrote: fold's stream black out with audio ?
for me too edit: now it works
speedlots doing some damage to sk's natural. sairs clear out ovies on the left side and dt's on the way
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
mmm looks like sk underestimated m18m
Fenrax
United States 5018 Posts
bunch of mutas out, take down a few sairs and a probe or two before needing to retreat, m18m loses a shuttle to scourge
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Fenrax
United States 5018 Posts
another shuttle lost. m18m archon/zealot force being hugely annoying at 9.5 m18m also adding reaver tech
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
m18m types out as muta/hydra takes out much of his natural, has reaver sniped then loses reaver tech and pretty much all defence
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
M18M gg'sPoll: Would you recommend Stars v ACE Set 4? If you have time (5)
45%
No (4)
36%
Yes (2)
18%
11 total votes
Your vote: Would you recommend Stars v ACE Set 4?
(Vote ): Yes (Vote ): No (Vote ): If you have time
Fenrax
United States 5018 Posts
gg when I noted stream was on it was 5 base vs. 2 lol go main team
hope ZerO wins and give me them points -.-
Russian Federation 4405 Posts
Soulkey is so awesome with his strategies. 5 base before lair ftw!!! I wonder if M18M even realised he had that extra base.
nice game, was cheering for the wrong guy tho ;( thought the z was ace player until i saw soulkey T_T
Bleh, I'm on a retarded computer atm, so Nanashin's stream lags as hell for me.
wow nanashin how can you not see the greatness that is guemchi :D thanks for streaming!
spinach bonjwa! w00t w00t
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
somewhat standard so far, guemchi proxying a pylon at 6
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Guemchi pulling a horangee, blocking his base with a Zealot. Piano doing a fast expand.
guemchi now taking an expansion, piano's been up for a while, added bunker to be safe.
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
guemchi expanding again to 6, adding gates. piano adding armory and getting some shop upgrade
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
lol guemchi lets scv walk past four goons and see the expansion at 6. piano preparing to take a third
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Both players doing NR20, it seems.
observer out, checking out piano's base, who is adding a starport, citadel coming for guemchi. siege finished
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
forge/archives for guemchi, big engagement by piano's third sees him lose tanks but kill shuttle and a fair chunk of guemchi's forces as well
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Excellent engagement from Guemchi, kills off about 7? tanks in an entrenched position.
arbiter tech finished. vultures try to break down pylon wall at guemchi's third but cleared away by goons. guemchi also taking a fourth
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
first vessel out, piano taking a fourth. dt out in the field being a minor irritant
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
guemchi taking a fifth. piano has a nice tank/vulture army composition occupying the centre
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
piano pushing forward, in good siege position outside guemchi's fourth, which easily goes down
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
OMG just tuned in and GCHIZZLE ON STREAM
RECALL IN THE MAIN but piano mostly ignoring it, preferring to clear up bases himself
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
another recall to the main but g-chiz looks to be on just one mining base
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
and losing on aztec too QQ another recall in main
3 getting shelled recall cleaned up losing 6 as well BIG tank shell gets heaps of probes 6 and 3 somehow survives
Lol scv attacking the probe line
HUGE tank splash kills about a dozen probes at guemchi's only real mining base, upcoming recall must to huge damage imo
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
holy crap. piano played this whole game so well.. he's improving so much as a player. good job!
piano is woongjin terran?
piano pushing from the top half of the map P expanindg to 7 but 4 marines there RECALL at 11 forces CC to lift and CC goes down 3 getting raided by vultures LOSING a fuck ton of probes
recall takes out one base and moving to another, piano countering at 3
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
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Guemjwa has no economy, not going to win dude.
I think Guemchi should've just stayed retired. When you can't even take out Piano on Aztec in a PvT...
lol piano landed barracks, forcing guemchi to place nexus off-centre
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looks like G-Chizzle fizzled....
recalling to main to try to kill depots, desperation stages now and guemchi gg's zero v iris or ggeamo? almost certainly ggaemo given the map
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
3 goes down both sides have low worker count but piano has the army advantage 7 goons recall into base shooting supplies piano pushing down to 5.5 P expanding to 6 again but rax blocks proper nexus location
Piano Ace is on fire !
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Enlist in the air force, turn into a beast. Well done Piano!
thanks for the LR guys , good job!
Impressive game from Piano!
On May 17 2011 20:47 kuroshiroi wrote: I think Guemchi should've just stayed retired. When you can't even take out Piano on Aztec in a PvT...
Piano played really good.
... that was pretty bad guemchi. Probe not fully saturated before the harass, and even less so afterwards. Terrible marcro and indecisiveness. =(
End this, ace! ZerO vs. Ggaemo I hope
On May 17 2011 20:49 ShadeR wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2011 20:47 kuroshiroi wrote: I think Guemchi should've just stayed retired. When you can't even take out Piano on Aztec in a PvT...
Piano played really good.
They must have a great coaching/practice system going now in ACE. So many slumping/bad players coming good with them: Piano, ggaemo, fbh etc
On May 17 2011 20:51 Scarecrow wrote: They must have a great coaching/practice system going now in ACE. So many slumping/bad players coming good with them: Piano, ggaemo, fbh etc
agree :D Piano, good play today.
On May 17 2011 20:51 Scarecrow wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2011 20:49 ShadeR wrote: On May 17 2011 20:47 kuroshiroi wrote: I think Guemchi should've just stayed retired. When you can't even take out Piano on Aztec in a PvT...
Piano played really good.
They must have a great coaching/practice system going now in ACE. So many slumping/bad players coming good with them: Piano, ggaemo, fbh etc
It's probably just motivation, it's army, you know
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On May 17 2011 20:51 Scarecrow wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2011 20:49 ShadeR wrote: On May 17 2011 20:47 kuroshiroi wrote: I think Guemchi should've just stayed retired. When you can't even take out Piano on Aztec in a PvT...
Piano played really good.
They must have a great coaching/practice system going now in ACE. So many slumping/bad players coming good with them: Piano, ggaemo, fbh etc
They did get a new coach, and I think he's a former progamer. He must be awesome at assessing the players' weak points.
i thought piano didnt play that well, but it was good enough ^_^ gG hope they can win before ace match.. altho i guess it might be zero twice so doesnt matter too much
On May 17 2011 20:49 ShadeR wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2011 20:47 kuroshiroi wrote: I think Guemchi should've just stayed retired. When you can't even take out Piano on Aztec in a PvT...
Piano played really good.
Piano is the worst TvP player by elo. Maybe he got really good in Ace (since Ace probably has the second best T line atm) or maybe he just didn't get the chance to show off his baller TvP until now (almost no TvP games in 2010 and 2011) but it's hard to find a less worthy opponent, imao. Still, Piano played really well and I'm not trying to trivialise his victory, but Guemchi couldn't really ask for an easier match.
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
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Fenrax
United States 5018 Posts
I want me an Ace match, Soulkey vs. FBH
zero with overpool gas and the stream is upside down ggaemo looked like some sort of 12 pool
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
*flips screen upside down*
THE WORLD HAS TURNED UPSIDE DOWN AAHHHHHHH
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p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Daum down... at the critical moment too.
On May 17 2011 20:55 kuroshiroi wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2011 20:49 ShadeR wrote: On May 17 2011 20:47 kuroshiroi wrote: I think Guemchi should've just stayed retired. When you can't even take out Piano on Aztec in a PvT...
Piano played really good.
Piano is the worst TvP player by elo... maybe he got really good in Ace (since Ace probably has the second best T line atm) or maybe he just didn't get the chance to show off his baller TvP until now (almost no TvP games in 2010 and 2011) but it's hard to find a less worthy opponent, imao.
Still, Piano played really well and I'm not trying to trivialise his victory but Guemchi can't really ask for an easier match...
I felt he was extremely well prepared. Maybe i havent seen enough pvt in aztec but him seige frogging to his third on the low ground was what wn him the game rather than guemchis incompetence. That positon was super easy to hold as well as allowing him to easily deny guemchi's 5th as well as let him easily defend his own 4/5 with out any trouble.
ggaemo looked like he picked off a ling or two, expanding
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
zero with hidden in-base hatch, retreated lings to form wall at choke
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On May 17 2011 20:47 kuroshiroi wrote: I think Guemchi should've just stayed retired. When you can't even take out Piano on Aztec in a PvT...
Piano has been playing well recently. IIRC, he even played the ace match for ACE and won.
hwaaat!!! zero was saved for last and he still gets ZvZ!!! lol unlucky kid
Scourge on scourge action :o
On May 17 2011 21:01 ShadeR wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2011 20:55 kuroshiroi wrote: On May 17 2011 20:49 ShadeR wrote: On May 17 2011 20:47 kuroshiroi wrote: I think Guemchi should've just stayed retired. When you can't even take out Piano on Aztec in a PvT...
Piano played really good.
Piano is the worst TvP player by elo... maybe he got really good in Ace (since Ace probably has the second best T line atm) or maybe he just didn't get the chance to show off his baller TvP until now (almost no TvP games in 2010 and 2011) but it's hard to find a less worthy opponent, imao.
Still, Piano played really well and I'm not trying to trivialise his victory but Guemchi can't really ask for an easier match...
I felt he was extremely well prepared. Maybe i havent seen enough pvt in aztec but him seige frogging to his third on the low ground was what wn him the game rather than guemchis incompetence. That positon was super easy to hold as well as allowing him to easily deny guemchi's 5th as well as let him easily defend his own 4/5 with out any trouble.
Well, yes. Ace players almost certainly practice snipes against specific races/players on only 1 map at a time, so I can imagine Piano practiced his TvP on Neo Aztec extensively before this match. But Guemchi should have more time to prepare so idk.
ggaemo's mutas pick down ling wall and lings run in, do some damage
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
GGAEMO GETS INTO THE BASE WITH LINGS but doesn't attack with them while he's microing mutas...
wtf.. ggaemo's control is such shit right now..... TT
Lazy, lazy zerglings tut tut
Zero making an evo chamber and a spore colony.
zero adding an evo chamber and creep colony in mineral line
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
what is this fricken build by zero? zomg
Zero's preparing spores in order to be aggressive with his mutas.
sorry i just joined... is that a secret hatch by zero?
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
That ling really didn't like his twin.
LOL those lings are trapped? ggaemo snipes 2 drones
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
lol wtf zero. Just runs mutas away while taking shots from ggaemo. I think he was trying to avoid the scourge but those moving shots did way more damage than 2 scourge... he's still up in muta count + drone count.
Fenrax
United States 5018 Posts
gosh I could still slap zero for that hatchery placement
This game boggles my mind...
On May 17 2011 21:09 King K. Rool wrote: lol wtf zero. Just runs mutas away while taking shots from ggaemo. I think he was trying to avoid the scourge but those moving shots did way more damage than 2 scourge...
ggaemo had about 12 scourges chasing Zero's mutas.
zero continues to harass with lings, decides 11 minutes into the game is a good time to take a second
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Split up your fucking mutas, ggaemo! ffs...
WTF is ggaemo doing in this game, seriously
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military dong getting totally outplayed there
On May 17 2011 21:10 kuroshiroi wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2011 21:09 King K. Rool wrote: lol wtf zero. Just runs mutas away while taking shots from ggaemo. I think he was trying to avoid the scourge but those moving shots did way more damage than 2 scourge...
ggaemo had about 12 scourges chasing Zero's mutas.
But only 2-3 of them were close enough that he couldn't micro out of it. THOUGH I GUESS ZERO AND MICRO DON'T GO HAND IN HAND
Russian Federation 4405 Posts
am i alone thinking that zero actually plays omg impressive? He just tears ggaemo's defence apart. while being at early game disadvantage
ggaemo is going to lose because he can't wrap his mind around the amazing "attack one base with lings and the other with muta" strategy
How many hitpoints does ggaemo's nat hatch have left?
spore up at zero's natural, pretty much over barring fail
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
I want a FBH vs Zero ace game. :D
On May 17 2011 21:11 gngfn wrote: ggaemo is going to lose because he can't wrap his mind around the amazing "attack one base with lings and the other with muta" strategy
Getting out-multitasked, pretty much yeah.
Zero's horrendous muta micro is keeping ggaemo in this.
zero attackin his own hatchery AGAIN-- he has done it in the past, whats up with that.
On May 17 2011 21:13 xarthaz wrote: zero attackin his own hatchery AGAIN-- he has done it in the past, whats up with that.
Glaive bounces?
wtf are you doing ggaemo.....
ggaemo able to finish off the extra in-base hatch
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On May 17 2011 21:13 ShadeR wrote: omg... these guys..
ts a zero zvz...what do you expect? :D
ggaemo gets that "hidden" hatch at the bottom of Zero's main.
Russian Federation 4405 Posts
On May 17 2011 21:13 bearbuddy wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2011 21:13 xarthaz wrote: zero attackin his own hatchery AGAIN-- he has done it in the past, whats up with that.
Glaive bounces?
omg that game definitely needs a rcommendation, even if it's zvz
Russian Federation 4405 Posts
OMFG GGAEMO HOLY SHIT THAT'S A FUCK TON OF MUTAS
ggaemo able to land a few scourge, then fly into some himself
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Fenrax
United States 5018 Posts
absolutely worst zvz ever
Quality muta micro from both players :/
Neither of them have ups. Not even zergling speed.
ggaemo's mutalisks just reenacted "Titanic." Now we find out whether this ship can sink
zero takes out ggaemo's natural hatch with mutas finally
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It took forever to kill that hatch lol
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Zero sniping the nat hatch, ggaemo so bad...
LOL Zero splits his mutas into 2 forces, distracts ggaemo and takes out his nat hat with the other.
oh my god, so many mistakes
Russian Federation 4405 Posts
omfg - at last. That ggaemo's hatchery got sniped
zero takes out ggaemos nat hatch. ggaemo responds by doing nothing
ggaemo - top zvz hint - don't engage in muta war over his spore colonies
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I think ggaemo just lost, finally.
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lol 4 overlords in the center for ggaemo
One of the worst games of BW I've ever seen.
LOL zero takes like EVERY scourge hit and still comes out on top with spore + better spread/more mutas.
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ggaemo finally typing out That ZvZ was so bad...
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lmao. What a game... (in a bad way)
That was so fucking painful to watch... not recommended.
lol ridiculous game i was giggling the entire game... zero ownzz
GGaemo just threw this game away
On May 17 2011 21:17 sixfour wrote: ggaemo - top zvz hint - don't engage in muta war over his spore colonies
he had to attack zero right at that moment. that engagement was his only hope
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do NOT want to see ggaemo int eh ace match.
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On May 17 2011 21:17 gngfn wrote: One of the worst games of BW I've ever seen.
team icon lol actually Zero played very well. Ggaemo however didn't. *_*
man im sad... ggaemo is really choking so hard... (and sux at zvz i guess)...
Fenrax
United States 5018 Posts
On May 17 2011 21:17 radadaundandan wrote: GGaemo just threw this game away
they were both throwing it... looked like volleyball
I wish Light vs FBH Ace Oops, I have a Tank icon
lol, stars standing together = bunch of small boys with nerdy glasses. :>>
stars should send light...
Zero is going out 0-3 against Calm. His ZvZ is abysmal.
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On May 17 2011 21:17 a7choi wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2011 21:17 sixfour wrote: ggaemo - top zvz hint - don't engage in muta war over his spore colonies
he had to attack zero right at that moment. that engagement was his only hope
He could've done the main instead, there was only 1 spore there IIRC.
All game long.... i was questioning if that was speedlings or normal ones.... !@#!@$ i tot i was insane for a sec
I'm unsure which player seemed more reluctant of winning...
Hrm. Next time, ggaemo shouldn't be the sixth player. He just isn't clutch enough
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soulkey for ace gogogo please!
FBH will almost certainly play but against who? Soulkey seems like the obvious choice here, even though it's La Mancha. Stars will probably send out free though...
ffs how did guemchi lose to piano? O.O
On May 17 2011 21:18 King K. Rool wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2011 21:17 a7choi wrote: On May 17 2011 21:17 sixfour wrote: ggaemo - top zvz hint - don't engage in muta war over his spore colonies
he had to attack zero right at that moment. that engagement was his only hope
He could've done the main instead, there was only 1 spore there IIRC.
mehh.. i guess.. this whole game was horrible.. ggaemo played horribly.. damn what happened to him? well i'm off to bed. gl ace!
Fenrax
United States 5018 Posts
On May 17 2011 21:20 a7choi wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2011 21:18 King K. Rool wrote: On May 17 2011 21:17 a7choi wrote: On May 17 2011 21:17 sixfour wrote: ggaemo - top zvz hint - don't engage in muta war over his spore colonies
he had to attack zero right at that moment. that engagement was his only hope
He could've done the main instead, there was only 1 spore there IIRC.
mehh.. i guess.. this whole game was horrible.. ggaemo played horribly.. damn what happened to him? well i'm off to bed. gl ace!
wut? and miss the Ace match? this will be good
I tink Light can take this.. his T v T is gd... :D
LOL PIANO remember when piano was still on stars and got sent for an ace match vs jaedong?
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Former stars player for ace vs new stars player, cool.
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Light vs Piano, I think Light has this.
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lol light??? WTF... T_T maybe just because of map...
Fuck yeah, I managed to get my computer working again, no moar retard comp that makes streams lag! :D Just in time for the ace game.
Fenrax
United States 5018 Posts
y u no send fbh and soulkey???
On May 17 2011 21:24 _Quasar_ wrote: lol light??? WTF... T_T maybe just because of map...
Yeah. La mancha is BRUTALLY hard in ZvT so it was really or light for ace all along
Sending Light makes sense since this is La Mancha but Piano? FBH must be better in every matchup...
Holy crap - Piano once again? Light will have him on a platter
On May 17 2011 21:26 xarthaz wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2011 21:24 _Quasar_ wrote: lol light??? WTF... T_T maybe just because of map...
Yeah. La mancha is BRUTALLY hard in ZvT so it was really or light for ace all along
why is it brutally hard?
Actually though it would be Iris but I guess Piano works too. FBH is a liability since a possible zerg ace would be hard for him to deal with.
On May 17 2011 21:27 MisteR wrote: FBH is a liability since a possible zerg ace would be hard for him to deal with.
What?
Ace Match on La Mancha Light the orange terran at the bottom leftPianO the teal terran at the top left
On May 17 2011 21:27 Legatus Lanius wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2011 21:26 xarthaz wrote: On May 17 2011 21:24 _Quasar_ wrote: lol light??? WTF... T_T maybe just because of map...
Yeah. La mancha is BRUTALLY hard in ZvT so it was really or light for ace all along
why is it brutally hard?
Skyhigh won a game vZ on it.
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
On May 17 2011 21:27 MisteR wrote: Actually though it would be Iris but I guess Piano works too. FBH is a liability since a possible zerg ace would be hard for him to deal with.
Isn't FBH known for TvT/TvZ and horrible TvP?
On May 17 2011 21:30 sixfour wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2011 21:27 Legatus Lanius wrote: On May 17 2011 21:26 xarthaz wrote: On May 17 2011 21:24 _Quasar_ wrote: lol light??? WTF... T_T maybe just because of map...
Yeah. La mancha is BRUTALLY hard in ZvT so it was really or light for ace all along
why is it brutally hard?
Skyhigh won a game vZ on it.
LOL Gas before rax for piano?
On May 17 2011 21:30 Musou wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2011 21:27 MisteR wrote: Actually though it would be Iris but I guess Piano works too. FBH is a liability since a possible zerg ace would be hard for him to deal with.
Isn't FBH known for TvT/TvZ and horrible TvP?
braq's tvp is much improved lol someone with a proxy rax which be light. last time he cheesed vT it failed really badly
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On May 17 2011 21:30 Musou wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2011 21:27 MisteR wrote: Actually though it would be Iris but I guess Piano works too. FBH is a liability since a possible zerg ace would be hard for him to deal with.
Isn't FBH known for TvT/TvZ and horrible TvP?
Yes, and his TvP has gotten quite decent as of late, certainly enough to take on either Guemchi or free, who are both terrible. So this decision doesn't make a whole lot of sense but whatever.
On May 17 2011 21:29 okum wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2011 21:27 MisteR wrote: FBH is a liability since a possible zerg ace would be hard for him to deal with.
What?
Piano (and to an extent, Iris) are good against zerg. FBH is mostly good against terran (though his tvz is not that bad). Given that Zero and Soulkey are two of the best zvt players, it would be wise to play your best tvz players that also can play tvt.
On May 17 2011 21:30 sixfour wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2011 21:27 Legatus Lanius wrote: On May 17 2011 21:26 xarthaz wrote: On May 17 2011 21:24 _Quasar_ wrote: lol light??? WTF... T_T maybe just because of map...
Yeah. La mancha is BRUTALLY hard in ZvT so it was really or light for ace all along
why is it brutally hard?
Skyhigh won a game vZ on it.
against roo go light!
i dont have a good feeling on this. GO PIANO, DO IT
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and the barracks sees what it needs to
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Light noooo where are you going with your rax... dont do it man O_O
On May 17 2011 21:31 MisteR wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2011 21:29 okum wrote: On May 17 2011 21:27 MisteR wrote: FBH is a liability since a possible zerg ace would be hard for him to deal with.
What?
Piano (and to an extent, Iris) are good against zerg. FBH is mostly good against terran (though his tvz is not that bad). Given that Zero and Soulkey are two of the best zvt players, it would be wise to play your best tvz players that also can play tvt.
I don't know what you're talking about. TvZ is FBH's best matchup.
lol light loses tank to mines
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
On May 17 2011 21:35 sixfour wrote: lol light loses tank to mines
Wasn't that Piano's tank?
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On May 17 2011 21:34 okum wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2011 21:31 MisteR wrote: On May 17 2011 21:29 okum wrote: On May 17 2011 21:27 MisteR wrote: FBH is a liability since a possible zerg ace would be hard for him to deal with.
What?
Piano (and to an extent, Iris) are good against zerg. FBH is mostly good against terran (though his tvz is not that bad). Given that Zero and Soulkey are two of the best zvt players, it would be wise to play your best tvz players that also can play tvt.
I don't know what you're talking about. TvZ is FBH's best matchup.
Statistically, yes, but in practice he has a hard time against management zergs like Zero and Soulkey. Anyway, that's just my opinion
Piano is so dead SCV CHAAAAAARGE!!!
what a pity light scouted the 2port. piano looks really nervous
On May 17 2011 21:34 okum wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2011 21:31 MisteR wrote: On May 17 2011 21:29 okum wrote: On May 17 2011 21:27 MisteR wrote: FBH is a liability since a possible zerg ace would be hard for him to deal with.
What?
Piano (and to an extent, Iris) are good against zerg. FBH is mostly good against terran (though his tvz is not that bad). Given that Zero and Soulkey are two of the best zvt players, it would be wise to play your best tvz players that also can play tvt.
I don't know what you're talking about. TvZ is FBH's best matchup.
It used to be, then he slumped hard. His TvT is competitive against almost anyone atm.
This is just a walkover
Light taking a third at the 9oclock, has 2 of his own ports now Piano still doesn't have his nat but he has a few tanks out
That was such a silly marine/tank/wraith attack. XD
Fenrax
United States 5018 Posts
wraiths going pew pew on piano's tanks, pretty much over edit - over
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
gg. light takes home the bacon. I am so glad we got light.
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Well that was disappointing, congrates Stars though and ACE put up a good fight bringing it to the last match thanks for streaming nanashin!
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awww...piano.. but on the bright side! he did beat a protoss! :D:D
piano got abit cocky there..
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Hmm, I don't get why PianO was send over FBH.
Ace not updated on the new TvT metagame? :p
What was that man .. ACE coach pulling a january troll ACE match
the ACE curse ... losing every match with 3-4
Even though Ace lost, they have been insanely strong o.O
Pity, can't win them all I guess. Good game from Light.
F*** Yeah!!!!!!! we will get woonjing interview with ZerO&soulkey!!!!!
On May 17 2011 21:41 Kipsate wrote: Hmm, I don't get why PianO was send over FBH.
He's better vZ and they expected Zero/Soulkey
where the hell is iris today?
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Did you see Piano's last ACE match? He looked like he was losing at one point, then he was all over Hyun. I think he earned this ACE match, though performed really poorly.
FBH would ve been a better choice,cmon coach!!!
On May 17 2011 21:37 Scarecrow wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2011 21:34 okum wrote: On May 17 2011 21:31 MisteR wrote: On May 17 2011 21:29 okum wrote: On May 17 2011 21:27 MisteR wrote: FBH is a liability since a possible zerg ace would be hard for him to deal with.
What?
Piano (and to an extent, Iris) are good against zerg. FBH is mostly good against terran (though his tvz is not that bad). Given that Zero and Soulkey are two of the best zvt players, it would be wise to play your best tvz players that also can play tvt.
I don't know what you're talking about. TvZ is FBH's best matchup.
It used to be, then he slumped hard. His TvT is competitive against almost anyone atm.
yep, in his prime tvz was his best, even beating savior. But from recent games, it would seem that tvt is his best, i dont think ive seen a recent tvz from him tho. his tvp seems okay too now
light win and i'm happy :D congrats Stars. and thanks to streamer for the stream.
On May 17 2011 21:42 TwoToneTerran wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2011 21:41 Kipsate wrote: Hmm, I don't get why PianO was send over FBH.
He's better vZ and they expected Zero/Soulkey
How is he better vs Zerg? He's not better in his last 10, he's not better overall during his career, he's nowhere near in ELO...
On May 17 2011 21:45 Holgerius wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2011 21:42 TwoToneTerran wrote: On May 17 2011 21:41 Kipsate wrote: Hmm, I don't get why PianO was send over FBH.
He's better vZ and they expected Zero/Soulkey
How is he better vs Zerg? He's not better in his last 10, he's not better overall during his career, he's nowhere near in ELO...
they mightve had piano train vz and fbh train vt
And where was Iris today? On May 17 2011 21:50 xarthaz wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2011 21:45 Holgerius wrote: On May 17 2011 21:42 TwoToneTerran wrote: On May 17 2011 21:41 Kipsate wrote: Hmm, I don't get why PianO was send over FBH.
He's better vZ and they expected Zero/Soulkey
How is he better vs Zerg? He's not better in his last 10, he's not better overall during his career, he's nowhere near in ELO...
they mightve had piano train vz and fbh train vt
Still doesn't warrant anyone to claim ''He's better vZ''. There's not a single shred of evidence that Piano is a better TvZer than FBH.
On May 17 2011 21:53 Holgerius wrote: And where was Iris today?
Show nested quote + On May 17 2011 21:50 xarthaz wrote: On May 17 2011 21:45 Holgerius wrote: On May 17 2011 21:42 TwoToneTerran wrote: On May 17 2011 21:41 Kipsate wrote: Hmm, I don't get why PianO was send over FBH.
He's better vZ and they expected Zero/Soulkey
How is he better vs Zerg? He's not better in his last 10, he's not better overall during his career, he's nowhere near in ELO...
they mightve had piano train vz and fbh train vt
Still doesn't warrant anyone to claim ''He's better vZ''. There's not a single shred of evidence that Piano is a better TvZer than FBH.
There is, actually. Simply the fact that FBH has been evading tvz for a long time now and that Piano is actively sent out to snipe zergs. That suggests that FBH is weak in tvz in practice while Piano is strong.
This was close.
It seems ACE is trying to prevent sending out FBH versus Zergs:http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=43&part=games&league=standard Although he has won his last 4 TvZ's, FBH seems to be playing TvT and TvP almost exclusively. I'm guessing ACE just has better vZ players overall. Edit: it also shows TvZ is his highest winrate whereas TvP is his worst by far. He currently seems pretty good all around though. Seems very likely that they need him to win TvT and TvP's so weaker ACE members can play their best MU.
piano...better at tvz? i can scarcely believe it :C
Damn.. so close for Ace. They've been doing so well lately. ^^
Why do Ace rarely send out FBH. He is on fire at the moment.
Bah, real close for ACE again. Although they lost today I think they have a solid team going on. Perhaps next season (too late for this season) they will be real playoff contenders.
Where was Iris today? ACE threw away the win... should have sent out Iris rather than M18M and FBH for ace match. grr
Piano in ace again :O Wow.
ACE probably was expecting zerg so they sent piano out.
Just checked the results and wow :O isn't ACE now the team that took the most matches to the ace match in R4?
zero seems to get matched up against another zerg far too often for my liking. hes so much more effective against a p or t, but i dont know if it will be worth him practising on some of the less zerg-friendly maps. maybe something like circuit breakers?
Buh, ACE fails whenever I seem to post in the LR thread Sounds like there are lot of interesting games to check out though.
It appears that ggaemo was sniped for the 700th time this year by a zerg
These close losses are the ones which hurt the most. Oh well, ACE is still improving. We will have our revenge.
piano for ace confuses me
On May 18 2011 10:26 Taekwon wrote: piano for ace confuses me
He's the best playing in practice at TvZ, they're playing the team with the best 1-2 combo of zergs in the leauge and expected zero or soulkey to come out. Instead Light did and his tvt clearly didn't live up to it.
ACE playing so well lately, too bad they had to lose like that in the final set
On May 18 2011 10:26 Taekwon wrote: piano for ace confuses me
Well Woongjin's best players are ZerO/Soulkey, Piano's best MU (only good one when he was with Stars) is TvZ. Iris/fbh might have been better as it was because of Light, but I guess it's not a bad choice, it's just the ACE dilemma.