Finally back to regular PL. Bad opponent for ACE to fight though.
Then again SKT did enough butchering the crap out of KT in SWL finals so they should just send Paralyze/Sun/Ssak/Hyuk/Best so that ACE can win this one. Please?
Can anyone give me a brief explanation on how this Bo7 series works? Players sent out in first four sets can't be repeated right? Last 3 sets can be repeated?
On April 23 2011 12:57 TheOnly92 wrote: Can anyone give me a brief explanation on how this Bo7 series works? Players sent out in first four sets can't be repeated right? Last 3 sets can be repeated?
They need players for 6 of the 7 games, and during ace matches you can bring out whomever in PL situations; WL is well WL, player wins player stays on, and during aces you cannot swap or choose a player again
On April 23 2011 13:02 X10A wrote: I CALL ROCK BEATING BISU IN THE MOST INTENSE PvP EVARR A guy can dream right Right...?
Eh, you're never going to switch back to your SKT team tag?
Only if Hyuk plays better in the future... and possibly if Iloveoov makes another comeback? lmao I might in the future. But the lose of my crusade is still burning
On April 23 2011 13:02 X10A wrote: I CALL ROCK BEATING BISU IN THE MOST INTENSE PvP EVARR A guy can dream right Right...?
Eh, you're never going to switch back to your SKT team tag?
Only if Hyuk plays better in the future... and possibly if Iloveoov makes another comeback? lmao I might in the future. But the lose of my crusade is still burning
iloveoov making a comeback? I see, never then. Traitor.
On April 23 2011 13:02 X10A wrote: I CALL ROCK BEATING BISU IN THE MOST INTENSE PvP EVARR A guy can dream right Right...?
Eh, you're never going to switch back to your SKT team tag?
Only if Hyuk plays better in the future... and possibly if Iloveoov makes another comeback? lmao I might in the future. But the lose of my crusade is still burning
iloveoov making a comeback? I see, never then. Traitor.
Call me what you will, Bisu will always be the womantoss to me AND Who are the two playing? Don't recognize o.o EDIT2: Piano and Soo
Predictably Coach Park is trying to give soO the opportunity to get some form back. He had such a strong start to the season, can he get that sort of form back for the last two rounds?
Soo and Piano both taking their nats Piano not scouting I think? Nope no scout yet Soo scouting towards 5 with his first OL First lings out, catching Piano's scout Lings are coming towards Piano's main NO RAX UP YET
On April 23 2011 13:12 Spica wrote: I have very little hope in Soo, he has always failed to impress me... But maybe he can do something today. Why do I even bother.
Yeah, to be honest I've always had more time for s2, but I can see the importance of having as many Zerg options as possible.
SO MANY SCVS GETTING LSOT TO THE LINGS First rine is out, DEAD Three lings left, with reinforcements coming Only one ling left, CC has no scv building it Lings are rallied to Piano's main
3 rines vs a ton of lings MARINES ARE FALLING LEFT AND RIGHT CC finishes Lair is morphing Looks to be about 5 or 6 rines to 7 or 8 lings RINES ARE ALMOST ALL DEAD Piano trying to get a bunker up, but lings almost kill it off AND AGAIN
BUNKER IS UP Three lings are in the mineral line They get about 3 or 4 scvs SPIRE MORPHING Soo still sending lings in towards Piano Acadamy now under construction
Muta's are out TURRETS ARE NOW JUST STARTING COME ON PIANO COME ON Turret timing fails MnM are coming to try and deal with the muta's He has stim but all rines are dying TURRETS ARE UP But just by the mineral line Hydra Den
Soo Destroying all three turrets and slaughtering MnM by the mineral line in the main FREE SHOTS ON EVERYTHING Lings come in to the undefended natural Muta's have free reign GG
On April 23 2011 13:22 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Piano is going to be the one scrub that DOESN'T improve when he joins ACE.
Then theres hope for Canata? =D But, by that I do hope Piano does improve later on Wow Piano with a horrible opener. Only Flash could've pulled that one off...
bisu's core starts to spin one goon out for bisu just as innocent's first zealot arrives at bisu's base, the goon chases it away one zealot holding bisu's gap innocent's core starts to spin too - he still hasn't scouted bisu's main - which has nothing but the core
3 goons vs 2 goon/1 zealot bisu's micro not perfect but he wins the fight with 2 goons left vs 1 zealot for innocent his scouting probe enters innocent's main again
innocent getting obs, bisu getting robo and 2nd gate
M18M 2 goon 1 lot 1 probe against 3 goon Womangoons microing away from the probe and zealot Both goons down Observatory first 2nd and 3rd gate down for Womantoss
M18M now taking his expo 6 goons 1 zealot as what I can see for Womantoss M18M's ob scouts the army Robo for Womantoss Robotics facility warping in 5 goons and 3 lots for M18M Cancels expo? M18M Maynarding Didnot cancel expo GOONS JUST BARRELING DOWN THE COKE
bisu gathering another army outside innocent's nat innocent mining from his nat with a few probes, but bisu comes to pick them off 2 reavers no shuttle for innocent, bisu backs off from them for now bisu's own shuttle waiting in his main, adding a 5th gateway
REAVER and one goon left 4 gates for Womantoss Goons coming down towards the naturala again Two reavers Thwarts antoher attack 5th and 6th gate warping in for Womantoss
I guess bisu will try to overpower and win? no, he drops a pylon at 4.5 yes, it would be wise to expo
shuttle moving with bisu's army to break innocent's nat one reaver with bisu's army he loses his reaver first but innocent loses all his goons, probes pulled but no good 3 goons left for bisu at innocent's nat he pulls back while waiting for rallied goons
Shuttle Reaver for Womantoss Was that M18M's ob that spotted it? Or WomanOb? Womantoss looking to expo to 5 ALMOST MANAGES TO SNIPE THE REAVER REAVER SNIPE BY M18M BOTH HIS REAVERS GO DOWN THREE GOONS LEFT FOR WOMANTOSS Reinforcements on the way
innocent with 1 reaver and a few goons at his nat, he's defending quite well given his situation
bisu drops a pylon at 6, no hidden expo for innocent a pylon at 12 too?
bisu moving in again with shuttle/goons+1zealot bisu's pretty risky with his shuttle but bisu pushes forward to eliminate the reaver and preserve his own it's OVER now and innocent concedes
OH GOD I MISSED BESERKER'S OUTTER RAX And am I bad if I eat the brownies in the Hungry Man before completing it BUNKRE RUSH OH GOD YES SO SEXY BESERKER
TWO RINES TAKE OUT TWO DRONES ANOTHER MARINE THAT MARINE IS JUST TAKING OUT THE HATCHERY OH GOD THE SUSPENCE LING SURROUND ON THE BUNKER BUNKER GOES DOWN
2nd rax and nat almost up for Iris Now taking gas too Two lings, Acadamy One now one Spire morphing Iris getting the scout in the main spots 3rd hatchery and spire timing
3 raxes pumping mostly marines a few lings joining the mutas, 2 hydra spotted mutas still trying to keep the mnm back one slow ovie in the middle of the map destroyed
3 hydra heading to s2's 3rd, mnm beelining for the 3rd though, s2's forces aren't in place! mutas dying trying to fight but mutaling come and ANNIHILATE the mnm group, s2 saves his 3rd and puts iris on the back foot!
MutaLing making a run for the nat? No MnM manage to get a OL Another muta gets taken out Lurker eggs not spotted MnM going for the 3rd MutaLing taking out the MnM
queen's nest coming iris's next group fo mnm heading out is smaller but first vessel on the way s2 has lurkers now though he's slow to burrow his lurkers and loses more lings that necessary but he's pushing iris all the way back to his nat
hive morphing all lings dead just mutas and 5 lurkers and the last muta dies too whoops!
iris adding armory and a 2nd factory in his main mech switch
Alot of muta's get taken down, lurkers forcing MnM to pull back All mutas DEAD Hive mophing Vessels out soon Armory and 2nd fact complete 5th hatch morphing
Lurkers taking out a TON of MnM 3 facts 4 rax? Surround on the tanks! One taken left I believe Only lurkerling, trying to bait them into attacking S2 getting a surround on the 2 tanks left
Vultures and mines! Mine takes out 3? No 2 lurkers MnM getting slaughtered Iris losing a Vessel And my food is getting cold doing ths D= 11 has a CC And I believe I saw another Hatchery morphing somehwere Defiler gets irradiated? Vultures trying to raid 5 S2 sending lings to 11 Losing Lurkers to mines Tanks pushing out against the lurker field Scourge coming for the vessels NO AA Iris having to use scans Defiler Hydraling attacking the Vulture tank force PLAAAGGYUUU Two vultures taking shots at a new expo Two muita's taking out all the playgued tanks Wheres the AA Iris?
Looks like vultures are almost able to snipe a defiler Gols are in play now Lings moving towards 12, scvs there for an expo? Swarm right infront of the TankGol force Playgu on some of them 11 is secure for now, looks like drop!
Drop Drop Drop Drop On 11! Three OL's worth Iris looking to take 12 has a CC and several factorys under construction 11 forced to lift Losing everything there Iris looking to attack 1 but a nydus is bringing in reinforcements No detection at 11, Iris focused at 11 S2 losing tons of hydra's
Drop at 12! No Defiler though Hardly any troops though Vultures manage to clean up Nevermind what I said about no troops OL's coming for another round of drop BUFFER!
Stream is so laggy, can hardly keep up Looks like S2 is trying to get up to 12 S2 is up the ramp and is dropping again Iris trying to vulture harass 5 Sunken shuts that down 12 is getting destroyed 12 manages to hold
Another Drop coming in at 12 Iris attacking the nat 12 looks like its going down LIFT THE FACTORIES AND THE CC Tanks are hitting the Hatchery on the high ground! 12 is lifted 5.5 has an expo from S2 Drop now on 11 Only 3 cows
defiler at s2's main irradiated, but it drops a swarm on the ramp before it dies
oh boy did s2 load an irradiated ultra into his ovie?
3 very damaged ultras dropped at 10.5, one tank destroyed, the other survives
iris finally moving his forces forwards to shell s2's proper nat 2 vessels there
more lings running into mines midmap one by one
swarm/hydraling move down s2's map in an attempt to save the place - not much good 2 new ultras run into a bunch of tanks and mines and fall immediately
iris mining from 11 again 4 vultures raiding the zero drones at 5.5
S2's nat is breached NAT IS BREACHED Defiler hydra ling coming in to save the nat Iris need smore support at the attack Vultures spot 5.5 Iris has an expo at 7 GG by S2
core for much, he starst to mine gas I approve, skip that zealot
maybe fantasy going to do 2 port or something? probe arrives at fantasy's nat, chasing fantasy's scv as it goes out to scout, taking shots with its puny laser
One gate core No zealot Probe just dancing infront of the wall SCV going to scout Much, Goon manages to pick it off! Four marines moving out Bunker at the nat just in case?
fantasy takes his gas, much's probe stays in fantasy's nat goon trying to deny fantasy's scout doesn't even get to check the nat
4 rines move out to chase the scouting scv away, bunker added at the nat if much saw that (did he see it?) he should be able to conclude that the factory is late, and thus 1 rax cc
Grandpatoss plants down a nex at his nat Terrorist landing his CC down at the nat Another scv denied entry These facial vews of the player kinda creep me out One gate -> robo
On April 23 2011 14:40 X10A wrote: These facial vews of the player kinda creep me out
yeah the new angle is pretty...interesting
2nd and 3rd gates for Much, fantasy's scv heads down via the 3rd, the pylon there spots it, much denies the scout once again, fantasy hasn't even gotten a glimpse of much's natural yet
observatory for much, his scout checks out 8, no double expo from fantasy yet one slow vulture heading out picks off the probe hanging outside fantasy's nat
Fantasy's 3rd scv gets killed off Acadamy under construction and 2 fact 3 gate Girl fixing hair into hide face micro! Two vultures out in the centre of the map Two goons at 3, to ward the vultures away from the new expo
fantasy adds a 3rd CC in his main5 goons/obs heading out, fantasy with 3 vultures, 4 now - they head east 2nd obs out vulture speed done - now to go raid! but much has his nat plugged up - and the ramp plugged by a goon too vultures take a lot of damage, one falls
3rd Cc under construction for Fanta 3 vultures with speed, no mines just yet Nice little pylon wall Nice goon ramp blockage Vultures have mines now Grandpa has an ob for good measure The first four vultures are taken out Stargate!
mines done, some dropped around the E hexside mines take out one goon (and a few vultures with them) much clearing out mines almost as quickly as they are placed
core spinning, stargate placed
fantasy moving out with his tanks to his megachoke, adding turrets, as he floats his 3rd CC to 8
much taking his 3rd gas, fantasy's vultures checking out the side expos, he scans 12 as well but did he scan much's main? fleet beacon placed as first stargate finishes fantasy adding his 6th and 7th factories
a bunch of goons moving around, clear a few mines, fantasy scans them and moves units towards 8 to defend it but much drops 4 zealots among the tanks, 2 tanks fall! but fantasy has 2 sieged tanks left to hold the marrow gap
much adding 2 more gateways as his stargates light up
Probe mining out the 0 patch at 12 island Vultures denied access to Much's 3rd
Goons looking to attack Fanta's 8oclock Dcent zelot bombs Kills all but 2 tanks, but goons pull back 3rd stargate and 4th and 5th gateway Vultures attacking the pylong wall PYLON GOES DOWN MUCH LOSING ALL HIS PROBES!
Dropship Science facility complete Fanta scans the 12 expo 2 tanks in the dropship moving towards 12 Carriers. My mistake 1 tank 1 vulture at 12 Counter drop by Much 4th from Fanta at 10 5th at 5! 4 Carriers so far Thats a big mech army!
fantasy unsieges his massive ground force and moves out
much also moving towards 9 with carrier/goon/zealot/obs here comes the attack, fantasy's units are out of place but he could trap much's forces at 9! which he's doing!
6th at 4.5 Carriers assulting the 3th Carrier almost get sniped Goons are getting picked apart by the mech army Losing them to mines aswell Such a huge force by Fantasy Only 3 or 4 carriers, no critical mass yet Zealots getting lost to mines
yeah I don't think much has what it takes fantasy's expo at 4.5 up and running a few zealots dying for no reason vultures fighting zealots, and now carriers, near much's nat
a few tanks siege up at much's 3rd, in reach of the probes
fantasy's goliath count still pretty low, but much has almost nothing but his carrires and his carrier micro isn't as good as flash's
fantasy now sieging up much's nat, carriers clear the attack on his 3rd 1 of 2 dts scanned and destroyed tanks being picked off in fantasy's attack, a lot of them but one carrier falls much actually has a ton of carriers now, critical mass soon?
fantasy only has a handful of goliaths vs carrier/goon
Grandpatoss needs a lesson in HT and good backup with those carriers Mech assult at Much's 2 oclock expo Much losing alot of probes to 2 tanks Tanks assulting the nat directly now DT's try to kill some things futally Carriers managing to pick off the tanks All tanks destoryed! Only gols left, and those are dwindling Carrier lose! scv's attacking the nex at 2
fantasy taking 10 again, has a lot of goliaths at his rally
still, I don't like how fantasy leaves his handful of goliaths to fight carrier/goons sure you might be able to pick off one more carrier but is it worth it?
fantasy adding a 6th CC at 10.5 and a 7th at 5? not sure about that
2 dropships heading out, spotted by obs
tank/goliath vs goon/dt/carrier near much's megachoke lots of tanks falling - fantasy keeping them in front...
much again picks off another 2 tanks at the edge of fantasy's army zero tanks now, much's goons engage
8 goliath drop on muchs' island expo
fantasy with 2 new tanks with his army, he never sieges them much gives ground vs goliath/tank 4 templar are rallied but don't storm neither does fantasy focus fire on them more carriers fall, much loses his island exop entirely
Carriers forced to pull back because of the gols Only 1 tank though Looks like mass goliaths 0-0-1 for the goons Whoops missed the drop on 12 island HT's just chilling Grandpa toss, now deciding to storm NEXUS barely survives at the 3rd 12 island is defantly destroyed
Ouch much loses even more income - just a HT + 8 or so carrier army left vs infinite goliaths while Fantasy does his best Flash impression by expanding everywhere on the map
fantasy's army slow to respond to the attack on 5/4.5, but here come some goliaths he's going to lose 4.5 too, though still he's got the entire left side
much re-taking his 3rd
carriers still surviving against fantasy's goliaths near 12
God this is like infinite Goliath D with 8 or 9 carriers Carrier sandwhich One and another go down 5 oclock got shut down, but most of Much's ground army is gone GET SAIRS MUCH SAIRS NO OBS GG
much's remaining army at 4.5 destroyed all of much's stargates idle
carriers attacking the turrets at 10.5, but 5 wraiths are heading out fantasy scans - no obs with much's carriers and he immediately concedes as the wraiths arrive
On April 23 2011 15:06 HypnoShroom wrote: Woah, It's best of 7? I thought this was the last game lol. When was the last time they had a Bo7 proleague format?
Anyway, sick game from fantasy
It's been Bo7 since the beginning of this season...
Ssak has his nat almost complete, factory almost complete Lair morphnig for Ggaemo Bunker building at nat Lings try to runby but pull back Acadamy and addon building
Spire started morphing Nice little marine wall Drone moving out along the left side of the map Ebay under construction Machine shop spinning Looks like an expo to 11 from ggaemo
drone starts a 3rd (4th hatch) at 10.5 spire done, only 6 eggs immediately after well 2 more now 2 vultures heading out, taking down lings, but also taking hits 1 vulture falls no sunken at ggaemo's nat...
ssak adding a few turrets around various places
vultures find the morphing 3rd but nothing precious to hit
Spire pops! All larve pop to eggs? No just 8 of them Vultures moiving out to engage the lings Lings get one vulture, at the cost of quite alot of lings Vultures going to spot 11 Vultures spot 11! Hydra Den morphing Muta's out
Turrets and MnM to deal with the mutas 3rd rax getting layed down 5 lings to 1 mine. Ouch 1 2 3 4 scv kills Vulture slips into the 3rd but hydra just hatch
MnM group out in the middle of the map Muta's should try and snipe the rines coming to reinforce imo Dones maynarding are going to get caught, or not More MnM marching down to reinforce 2nd fact building STOP LURKRE STOP LURKER Kills alot of MnM
Starport complete, MnM+tanks are pushing down towards the nat One vulture trys to get into 11, gets denied by a lurker MutaLurk out of positon for a second almost getting hit by the MnM Tanks pushing back the MutaLurk
MnM running into the lurkers, nice split CC building outside of the nat for Ssaks 3rd Woo 1 ling suicides for 3 vulture kills off a mine Defiliers out in play now
missed a little... but ssak lifts his raxes, adds another factory now his army threatens ggaemo's 3rd - but swarm/lurkers push him back 3rd CC landing at 3
4 facts, all rax lifted i believe Ggaemo has 11 nat aswell Ssak landing his CC at 3 for his 3rd MnM and 2 tanks outside of 11 nat Nice 11 kill lurker on an MnM group goes down with a fight!
Lets go GGaemo! He runs a lurker ling force into fire leaving the defiler behind, loses most of the lings 2 armorys, 3 vessels idle, port flashing 7th hatchery? at the 11 expo Defiler almost snipe 9 oclock has an expo, vultures almost get in Ssak landing an expo at 6 Cow Cavern!
lings run into the mines at 6 and die, now lurkers come under swarm, scvs fleet
ssak's army arrives to threaten 9
ovies come over them, but nothing inside them? lots of mines protecting ssak's army from the south but swarm/units coming about 6 vultures plagued? vultures are expendable though...
ggaemo's 5th destroyed, CC landed at 1.5, scvs start to mine no defense there though
ssak trying to clear out 6 but ovies heading towards 1.5 4 vessels coming though and a bunch of vultures are ready dropping mines there and mnm coming too
the ovies leaving
ssak running his mech army over 3 lurkers, taking a ton of damage and losing most of his vultures
plague on a bunch of scvs and scanner and one vessel as ggaemo ends up dropping on 3
Tons of mines around the map, going to be hard to not play a Hyuk v Leta on here 6 oclock forced to lift Huge Tank vulture force at 9 DONT MINESWEEP GGAEMO Playgu! 5? vessels idle Hatchery at 9 destroyed Drop tech for GGaemo! 6 oclock forced to lift GGaemo forced to drop some on the mines Tanks running through lurker fire Drop on the 3 oclock Playguu on the workers,scanner and a few vessels Cows out
Lings take out the Idle MnM group with mines 1 oclock expo forced to lift Tons of vessles, a niec plaguy would be epic Cow has no armor upgrade as far as I can tell? Thats alot of cows, not as much as July vs Best Game 3, but alot Drop on 3 again!
mass ultras + lings heading towards ssak's nat ssak dropping mines there ultraling also attacking 3 but vultures taking down a morphing hatch, is it at 12?
mass vultures taking down drones at 10 despite a lurker there vultures raid 9 too, despite 3 lurkers ggaemo losing a significant amount of drones
SOOO MANY scvs popping to lurker fire at 3 Vessel gets destroyed, but I get Ssak has another 10 idle 12 oclock hatchery morphing, gets stopeed by vultures 3 oclock getting cleaned up by Ultraling Nat is getting assaulted by Ultraling 11 nat is getting harrased by vultures, 9 now 12 has finished morphing
On April 23 2011 15:39 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote: Hopefully after his military service, ggaemo can return to Oz to complete the triad of Jaedongs: real Jaedong, mini Jaedong, and military Jaedong.
cept when he's back it'll probably be one of the other two's turn
well maybe not Jaedong who's using "Seoul Cyber University" to delay service
On April 23 2011 15:39 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote: Hopefully after his military service, ggaemo can return to Oz to complete the triad of Jaedongs: real Jaedong, mini Jaedong, and military Jaedong.
I hope they will field in the neo military jaedong once he is back in hwazeung so we can get to see more of his superior game play .
really is By.Sun THAT MUCH better than Afrotoss? SKT coach I respect him as a pretty smart man but I simply don't get how much trust he has in autolose.Sun
On April 23 2011 15:39 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote: Hopefully after his military service, ggaemo can return to Oz to complete the triad of Jaedongs: real Jaedong, mini Jaedong, and military Jaedong.
Core spinning Three rines out Add on, adding on? lol Nice little sim city Goon blocking ramp to deny scouting, and is giving chace Probe waiting at nat problably for the nex.. yep nex p lanted 6 rines and a tank vs 2 goons Sun pulling back First vulture out, and add on is spinning
fbh getting up a bunker to solidify his contain seige mode up, tank is in range of the nexus! probes pulled, sun trying to get his goons on the ridge by killing the temple
Goons taking out the temple Ebay almost complete Nexus at nat taking hits from the vultures Seige mode now researched Temple goes down Nice strat takes out both tanks and the rines in bunker
Nex was lost, Goons barreling into the nat Only 2 tanks, 6 goons, more troops are being build Rax gets taken out Armory is complete Rax needs to get rebuild Nexus complete again for Sun
counter attack failed due to fbh nice tank position now he is turtling out just a few meter from his natural setting up some turrets and sun taking a third at 6.00
Yep, Musou's stream is ahead Looks like Sun is taking centre bottom right expo FBH has the top right centre expo Vultures trying to get into the expo, but goons and pylons deny Arbiter tech, stargate flashing Shuttle drops zealots on the centre top left, but Sun loses the shuttle to a turret
sun going for some kind of a drop with shuttle but i am not sure if it will work well it was effective at taking two tanks and some scv due to the low cliff that is open to the ground goons were able to do some damage to the scv but not enough to kill them as fbh was able to get his tanks with siege mode back on.
FBH has 8 fact's an expo at 3 oclock and vessels Sun expoing to 7? Looks like it FBH Shelling the centre right expo ENGAGEMENT Sun is forved to pull back BUFFERU!!
fbh creeping slowly to sun natural with mines and turrets being surrounded near tanks this does not look good for sun although arbiter has already been created and sun now still harassing the open middle base with shuttle and zealot force .
FBH needs to get rid of that arbiter, or emp the army 7 oclock is warpped in Looked like maybe 10 gateways Centre bottom right is getting taken down Expand to 12 for FBH Nexus down Goons pushing the line, but quickly pull back
On April 23 2011 15:39 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote: Hopefully after his military service, ggaemo can return to Oz to complete the triad of Jaedongs: real Jaedong, mini Jaedong, and military Jaedong.
2-2? or 2-3 for mech 0-?-2 for poss ground Huge engagement along the right side path Stasis on 3 gols 1 vulture and a tank Buffer! Vessel flying in, trying to emp? Looks like FBH came out on top
GGAEMO VS BISU?????? LOL WHAT? What are you doing ACE coaches, wtf, how did you not put FBH when he is in such brilliant shape now, and he can take out BOTH skt1 aces, when ggaemo probably could normally win only vs Fantasy???
If it was buffering during commercials it's because I was testing if my connection could handle streaming to a second service for konadora. Apparently it sucks away the bandwidth from own3d instead of splitting it equally and my connection isn't fast enough to handle both, so I turned off the second stream after a few seconds. I might be able to dual stream if I lower the bitrate but since a game is going to start, I don't really want to test it right now.
ahh... it's a new unknown map... but how zerg would take a 3rd I wonder o_O or maybe the reason for sending ggaemo is that he has some nice strat specially for this map...
On April 23 2011 16:13 Musou wrote: If it was buffering during commercials it's because I was testing if my connection could handle streaming to a second service for konadora. Apparently it sucks away the bandwidth from own3d instead of splitting it equally and my connection isn't fast enough to handle both, so I turned off the second stream after a few seconds. I might be able to dual stream if I lower the bitrate but since a game is going to start, I don't really want to test it right now.
Don't worry about it so much. Thanks for streaming again
On April 23 2011 16:11 fishbowl wrote: Feeding a Zerg to the Beesuit? What is Ace thinking?
I honestly think Fantasy's TvT would crush FBH, but FBH's TvP would beat Bisu. Unfortunately, they didn't take the risk of TvT and now Bisu will probably roll ggaemo
Ace makes it's stand here. if GGaemo can take down bisu, I will start LBing them over many other teams. However, if Ggaemo looses, it's clear they still don't have what it takes to win.
9 pool vs Forge first FE Bisu's probe doing it's thing inside ggaemo's main, hatch goes down at the nat. Bisu meanwhile placing his own nexus at his nat. another hatch being placed at 9, bisu sees it with his probe. 2 cannon goes down as lings are out, gateway warping in shorly after.
On April 23 2011 16:18 TheNessman wrote: Ace makes it's stand here. if GGaemo can take down bisu, I will start LBing them over many other teams. However, if Ggaemo looses, it's clear they still don't have what it takes to win.
Ace goes 3-4 vs SKT1: Obviously not good enough. Ace goes 4-3 vs SKT1: Definitely going to destroy everyone else.
Bisu taking his gas aswell as warping in the core. Lair morphing for Ggaemo. Nexus complete at the nat. 4 lings still chasing that probe. Overlord hanging out over the nex in the main keeping an eye on everything
Ggaemo's third is finished, 1 single drone mining there, zealot making it's way down into the main, confronted by 2 zealots. spire morphing.
zealot attacks the drones, unable to take any out, lings finished it off before the zealot does any damage
On April 23 2011 16:21 X10A wrote: Lair morphing Core 1/2 way complete Nexus at nat warped in 9 oclock finished morphing Womanlot clocking on its high heels down towards GGaemo's nat
Womanlot cracked me up. Your so nice to my pretty bisu!
4th hatchery at the nat choke womanlot attacking the drones at the 9 expo 5th hatchery planted at the 9 First sair out, taking down an OL Spire is complete
Adun warping in and forge is spinning, another zealot out and this time attacks the third, another hatch laid down at the third, zealot kills a ling before dying itself.
Sair out, second sair out, overlord down frmo first sair
cannons warping in at the main. Pair of scourge out and fly into the main of bisu but the cannons finish just in time.
Evo chamber at the 9 Scourge flying around Bisu's base 4 lots coming towards the 9 oclock sunken morphs in just in time GGaemo getting a good surround on some of the zealots Killing three Lings pull back Hydras out
4 slowlots attempt an attack at the third, a lot of lings out on the field, more zealots arrive, lings and lots engage, few lings die before retreating. Scourge trying ti snipe some sairs but fail
temp archive finish, hydras pop, with some ling support they engage with the lots. Lots retreating for now.
Third has some sunkens defending it, sairs are making their rounds trying to snipe wahtever overlords they can. Bisu adding three gates
Zealots attacking the front door of the nat, hydraling take down all but 3 Looks like a force of maybe 5 or 6 sairs Lurkers morphing DT out! +1 attack for sairs Robo complete 5 gates
One sair gets taken down by scourge About 8 lots and 1 DT engage HydraLurk Lurker almost goes down HT and goons are now in the mix Bisu taking 3 oclock
few observers out to help out against the lurkers, Bisu catching some lurkers in a trap. lurkers die without a fight, Bisu engages again, storms going off, hydras and lurkers dying!
Bisu rolling that army, GGaemo has a few reinforcements, but his main army has been cut. Bisu taking his trhid at 3, cannons warping in to protect it. Meanwhile sairs still out killing overlords
ggaemo has ammassed a large army of lurkers, but bisu is dragoon heavy, hydras come out of nowhere, Bisu has no zealot support or storm support, goons retreat.
Bisu trying to still kill as many overlords as poosible. DROP COMING!
sairs destroying the retreating ovies new units from bisu's gateways die quickly - but here comes a small army - bisu ready to clear out th edrop, he lost some tech, and a lot of his gateways are red but still up
5 overlords drop into the main, lurkers and hydra. pylons blowing up. Bisu's troops arrive, storms go off, but there are still hydras and lurks in the main, Sairs take advantage and kill some overlords
Bisu waiting for more units before engaging that force in his main. Here he comes. Bisu killing what remains in his main. Nexus still standing.
DROP DROP DROP!!! BISU SEES THE DROP HYDRALURK DROP IN THE MAIN! The OL"s are getting picked apart, but Bisu lost a couple of siars Nexus not getting taken down Gateways not going down Observatory when down
4 sairs left for Bisu Thats alot of lurkers 3 now Engagement Lots of lurkers getting killed off DT's killing off the lurkers GGaemo should try and drop the 3 oclock imo Bisu taking 1 expo Lurker dropped by the mineral line, going to get stormed off BISU ATTACKING THE FRONT DOOR Almost all lurkers go down
GGaemo replenshing his army quickly, he's morphing in a lot of lurkers. scourge are out also looking for those pesky sairs. 1 sair falls the rest escape.
GGaemo engages with hydra and lurk into a goon army, storms go off, DTs enter into the battle, Bisu coming out on top. Bisu taking his fourth at the mineral only.
Single lurker disrupting mining at Bisu's third. Bisu with his army egngage the nat, storms kill a lot of lurkers, Bisu backing away cautiously. More lurkers and hydra die to storm. Bisu moving his force in, hydras arrive from the back and take out the goons, protoss re-enforcements arrive What a crazy battle!
GGaemo's holding off with hydra reinforcements, needs to not get stormed off, but zealots are reinforcing Hydra Den goes down Two sairs left GG T.T MY LB T.T
gg wp! Bisu PvZ, Fantasy TvP, and another amazing game from the Berserker! Also liked the fact that FBH and GGaemo are carrying Ace to the ace match. Now hopefully Ruby gets back to top shape.
Three cheers to CoffeeJelly for his first Live-Report thread! even though you still haven't changed n.Die_soO lol Thanks to GTR and Musou for streaming and yay FBH!
Well done with the OP CoffeeJelly, thanks for the LR thread. And thank you very much to our wonderful streams both GTR and Musou! Couldn't have watched it without you guys
On April 23 2011 16:40 DropBear wrote: Three cheers to CoffeeJelly for his first Live-Report thread! even though you still haven't changed n.Die_soO lol Thanks to GTR and Musou for streaming and yay FBH!
Hm, must've forgot to hit the post button haha it should be good now. Thanks once again!
On April 23 2011 16:40 Caladbolg wrote: gg wp! Bisu PvZ, Fantasy TvP, and another amazing game from the Berserker! Also liked the fact that FBH and GGaemo are carrying Ace to the ace match. Now hopefully Ruby gets back to top shape.
tought ruby was released or will be in the summer?
didn't watch live because I have seminar today but expect SKT will win and yes, they win. Will watch teh VODs later. Thanks to Bisu, Fantasy and Soo. Congrats SKT.
Man SKT is in tons of trouble. You might see oh Fanta Bisu almost 2 wins guaranteed, but they are relying on Fanta Bisu s2 + scrubs(soo, ssak) to get 3 wins. Doesn't look so great now no?
@cascades: If you look at it from the opposing team's POV, they need to win 4 games out of 6 to avoid an ace match. But yeah, not seeing Best fielded against ACE must mean a serious slump for him.
On April 23 2011 20:14 cascades wrote: Man SKT is in tons of trouble. You might see oh Fanta Bisu almost 2 wins guaranteed, but they are relying on Fanta Bisu s2 + scrubs(soo, ssak) to get 3 wins. Doesn't look so great now no?
ssak + sun are capable of taking out many players.
especially ssak has pretty neat tvt. Don't forget skt had a flawless first round. (with a best performing, but still)
On April 23 2011 16:40 Caladbolg wrote: gg wp! Bisu PvZ, Fantasy TvP, and another amazing game from the Berserker! Also liked the fact that FBH and GGaemo are carrying Ace to the ace match. Now hopefully Ruby gets back to top shape.
tought ruby was released or will be in the summer?
Didn't see him removed for this month's PL roster. Only Xellos and someone else, I think.
On April 24 2011 00:24 Lightwip wrote: The results of this series make me worry about how SKT will do in these upcoming rounds. And will Best ever be back? What happened to him anyways?
On April 23 2011 16:40 Caladbolg wrote: gg wp! Bisu PvZ, Fantasy TvP, and another amazing game from the Berserker! Also liked the fact that FBH and GGaemo are carrying Ace to the ace match. Now hopefully Ruby gets back to top shape.
tought ruby was released or will be in the summer?
I believe he's gone in June?
On April 23 2011 19:40 trexbqs wrote: didn't watch live because I have seminar today but expect SKT will win and yes, they win. Will watch teh VODs later. Thanks to Bisu, Fantasy and Soo. Congrats SKT.
and just asking wonder when Canata will be play?
SKT may have won, but this series was still a lot closer than I thought it'd be.
I don't think you'll be seeing Canata anytime soon. He's been pretty bad as of late, and I don't think he got a single game in Winner's League. Presumably SKT would rather send out a rookie. In any case, he'll be joining ACE pretty soon.
On April 24 2011 04:56 ArvickHero wrote: Bisu's relationship with Coach Park is already strained? Since when?
You can feel it from the interview.
I don't think Bisu will say Team only focuses on the proleague, and as a player I’m discontent, and unhappy about it. just because of 1 MSL round. It' obvious that it's been going on for a while.
If E-Sport is similar to Sport. Then for a current in-form top/best player to say something like this, it normally leads to two things: 1. He gets a pay rise(Rooney). 2. He want out because he feel he can achieve more else where.
On April 24 2011 04:56 ArvickHero wrote: Bisu's relationship with Coach Park is already strained? Since when?
You can feel it from the interview.
I don't think Bisu will say Team only focuses on the proleague, and as a player I’m discontent, and unhappy about it. just because of 1 MSL round. It' obvious that it's been going on for a while.
I'm going to be translating the DES version of the interview. Maybe it'll show something different.
On April 24 2011 04:56 ArvickHero wrote: Bisu's relationship with Coach Park is already strained? Since when?
You can feel it from the interview.
I don't think Bisu will say Team only focuses on the proleague, and as a player I’m discontent, and unhappy about it. just because of 1 MSL round. It' obvious that it's been going on for a while.
I agree, and Bisu must be really pissed off, or else he wouldn't say such things in such interviews. He wanted to win so bad so he can tell everyone this in the interview; this shows how unhappy he is. On the other hand, Fantasy says he has lots of time to practice for individual leagues....maybe thats why his SPL performance isn't that great. Man, SKT's coach is such a douche, feel soo sad for Bisu.
For Bisu to come out and say this is pretty shocking. What strikes me as weird is how it seems Fantasy never seems to complain about lack of time practicing... For me he's always been the master of preparation, but you never know.
I guess Bisu is no Jaedong right now in the sense that he never had to carry his team, while preparing for leagues... Hope he feels better.
On April 24 2011 05:44 TyranoS_NiveK wrote: For Bisu to come out and say this is pretty shocking. What strikes me as weird is how it seems Fantasy never seems to complain about lack of time practicing... For me he's always been the master of preparation, but you never know.
I guess Bisu is no Jaedong right now in the sense that he never had to carry his team, while preparing for leagues... Hope he feels better.
Yeah, I find it really strange that Bisu and fantasy are both on SKT, yet fantasy does fine in individuals. Wonder what the coach's reasoning is behind not letting Bisu prepare much for MSL.
Both Flash and Jaedong have a lot of experience carrying their teams and maintaining good performance in PL and individual leagues simultaneously. I wonder if it's just this experience that Bisu lacks, so he's faltering when he has to do both.
On the subject of Bisu actually coming out and saying this, what are the netizen reactions to his statements? I remember people saying netizens can be really crazy.
On April 24 2011 05:44 TyranoS_NiveK wrote: For Bisu to come out and say this is pretty shocking. What strikes me as weird is how it seems Fantasy never seems to complain about lack of time practicing... For me he's always been the master of preparation, but you never know.
I guess Bisu is no Jaedong right now in the sense that he never had to carry his team, while preparing for leagues... Hope he feels better.
Yeah, I find it really strange that Bisu and fantasy are both on SKT, yet fantasy does fine in individuals. Wonder what the coach's reasoning is behind not letting Bisu prepare much for MSL.
Both Flash and Jaedong have a lot of experience carrying their teams and maintaining good performance in PL and individual leagues simultaneously. I wonder if it's just this experience that Bisu lacks, so he's faltering when he has to do both.
On the subject of Bisu actually coming out and saying this, what are the netizen reactions to his statements? I remember people saying netizens can be really crazy.
Fantasy and Bisu both lost, although Bisu's group was somewhat more yeah...
On April 24 2011 05:44 TyranoS_NiveK wrote: For Bisu to come out and say this is pretty shocking. What strikes me as weird is how it seems Fantasy never seems to complain about lack of time practicing... For me he's always been the master of preparation, but you never know.
I guess Bisu is no Jaedong right now in the sense that he never had to carry his team, while preparing for leagues... Hope he feels better.
Yeah, I find it really strange that Bisu and fantasy are both on SKT, yet fantasy does fine in individuals. Wonder what the coach's reasoning is behind not letting Bisu prepare much for MSL.
Both Flash and Jaedong have a lot of experience carrying their teams and maintaining good performance in PL and individual leagues simultaneously. I wonder if it's just this experience that Bisu lacks, so he's faltering when he has to do both.
On the subject of Bisu actually coming out and saying this, what are the netizen reactions to his statements? I remember people saying netizens can be really crazy.
Fantasy and Bisu both lost, although Bisu's group was somewhat more yeah...
Point taken. Fantasy really should've advanced from his group, but Soulkey just really seems to have his number. Bisu had the worst luck when 1) he failed to win his first match, and 2) Jaedong won against Flash, setting him for the worst case scenario: beating Flash twice to advance.
I'm really curious about what netizens are saying, though. Can anyone provide translations of any notable comments?
On April 24 2011 05:44 TyranoS_NiveK wrote: For Bisu to come out and say this is pretty shocking. What strikes me as weird is how it seems Fantasy never seems to complain about lack of time practicing... For me he's always been the master of preparation, but you never know.
I guess Bisu is no Jaedong right now in the sense that he never had to carry his team, while preparing for leagues... Hope he feels better.
Yeah, I find it really strange that Bisu and fantasy are both on SKT, yet fantasy does fine in individuals. Wonder what the coach's reasoning is behind not letting Bisu prepare much for MSL.
Both Flash and Jaedong have a lot of experience carrying their teams and maintaining good performance in PL and individual leagues simultaneously. I wonder if it's just this experience that Bisu lacks, so he's faltering when he has to do both.
On the subject of Bisu actually coming out and saying this, what are the netizen reactions to his statements? I remember people saying netizens can be really crazy.
Fantasy and Bisu both lost, although Bisu's group was somewhat more yeah...
The odd thing is, if Bisu was in Fantasy's group, he would have ripped through and if Fantasy was in Bisu's group he probably would have had a better chance when playing Flash twice. Mainly because we can see that Fantasy has shown some pretty awesome TvT against Flash.
@Tempest[OEC]: The entire point for Bisu being in that group is because Hydra wanted him out (Flash and Jaedong too). So there's no way Bisu could have gotten an easy 3zerg group like Fantasy had.
And yeah, all zerg group is actually the worst combination for Fantasy considering how likely he is to shoot himself in the foot when playing that race.
On April 24 2011 05:44 TyranoS_NiveK wrote: For Bisu to come out and say this is pretty shocking. What strikes me as weird is how it seems Fantasy never seems to complain about lack of time practicing... For me he's always been the master of preparation, but you never know.
I guess Bisu is no Jaedong right now in the sense that he never had to carry his team, while preparing for leagues... Hope he feels better.
Yeah, I find it really strange that Bisu and fantasy are both on SKT, yet fantasy does fine in individuals. Wonder what the coach's reasoning is behind not letting Bisu prepare much for MSL.
Both Flash and Jaedong have a lot of experience carrying their teams and maintaining good performance in PL and individual leagues simultaneously. I wonder if it's just this experience that Bisu lacks, so he's faltering when he has to do both.
On the subject of Bisu actually coming out and saying this, what are the netizen reactions to his statements? I remember people saying netizens can be really crazy.
I think your right on the observation that Bisu has never seem to have excelled in Proleague and individual leagues simultaneously.
Looking at the situation now, Fantasy has been relatively inconsistent throughout the year, so it seems that most of the Ace Match burden has been passed to Bisu. On top of this, Fantasy tends to be a master of preparation, which with a lighter schedule allows him to prepare more for individual leagues, leading to greater success. As much as I hate to say it, I feel that Bisu feels some jealousy (who wouldn't in his shoes) since he had to carry the team while Fantasy was still savoring the OSL victory. All during this time, coaches probably made him practice with Fantasy (on top of all this). With Best falling apart (plz come back!), I think his burden is not getting lighter anytime soon.
As much as I love the guy, I have to realize he's human. I hope that he rolfstomps everyone this OSL to make up for it...
Hmmm... Coach Park, why not send Best out? This is like the perfect time to get your FBB back on track, rather than being hopeful of this guy "Sun"... I get that sometimes SKT Zergs could suddenly ignite a firestorm, but I've never seen Sun perform on pressure events, just get FBB solid then SKT'll be deep,
On April 25 2011 01:45 Bearclan wrote: why send zerg for ace
The ACE was most likely going to be either Bisu or Fantasy. I guess ACE was banking on the chance of SKT sending fantasy, who ggaemo has a chance against. The other option for ACE was most likely FBH, but then he would almost certainly fall to fantasy.
On April 25 2011 01:45 Bearclan wrote: why send zerg for ace
The ACE was most likely going to be either Bisu or Fantasy. I guess ACE was banking on the chance of SKT sending fantasy, who ggaemo has a chance against. The other option for ACE was most likely FBH, but then he would almost certainly fall to fantasy.
FBH isn't really that bad in tvt so by all means i don't see why the coach shouldn't sent out fbh in ace match after all.
On April 25 2011 01:45 Bearclan wrote: why send zerg for ace
The ACE was most likely going to be either Bisu or Fantasy. I guess ACE was banking on the chance of SKT sending fantasy, who ggaemo has a chance against. The other option for ACE was most likely FBH, but then he would almost certainly fall to fantasy.
FBH isn't really that bad in tvt so by all means i don't see why the coach shouldn't sent out fbh in ace match after all.
I never said FBH was that bad in TvT, but more like Fantasy is really good in TvT, so I'm not sure FBH would take him. But yeah, FBH probably would've been a better choice, since FBH's TvP doesn't look too bad these days, so he could've covered Bisu.
got to watch the ACE game (had to dl it to watch due to lag during the livestream D, and I have to say that game was pretty fuckin brilliant by Bisu. The only "bad" moment had to be when he carelessly lost 3 Observers during the drop, which ggaemo could've potentially punished far more but didn't. There was that moment where Bisu attacked ggaemo's front with Dragoon/Zealot against ggaemo's Hydra/Lurk, so Bisu repositioned his Zealots to draw fire from the Hydras while minimizing Lurker damage, and in the process of this fight killed many Overlords with his Corsairs while losing only his few Zealots and 1 Dragoon..
Bisu just really showed his natural finesse at PvZ, having no real prior preparation yet showing such a dominating performance. No wonder why he really wanted that all Zerg group in MSL..
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