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[SWL] Playoffs Day 2: SK Telecom T1 vs Hwaseung Oz - Page 8

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Although it's great to be fans of your respective teams, remember to keep all discourse civil. Progamers work very hard, and there are probably reasons as to why certain players are sent out at certain times.

Further disrespectful posts will be dealt with strictly.
hmmm...
Profile Joined March 2011
632 Posts
April 01 2011 19:21 GMT
#141
expecting to see some EPIC games. games at the gsl world tourney have been somewhat disappointing so hope these games will bring back the entertainment. >_<
Trajan98
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada203 Posts
April 01 2011 19:28 GMT
#142
On April 02 2011 02:33 bearbuddy wrote:
So Fantasy is the one who beat Jaedong multiple times in the 2009 grand final to take home the bacon, has just recently won OSL and took the number one spot in the KeSpa ranking, and is the one who is in the famed SKT T1 terran line and pretty much Oov's favorite son...

Yet Bisu is in the cheering poll, not Fantasy?


Fantasy lost to Jaedong in that final, and Bisu has won 3 msl championships and has the best career winning % next to Flash and Jaedong. Bisu has done by far the best for SKT this winners league season. As good as Fantasy has become, he still doesn't win as consistently as Bisu nor did he revolutionize a matchup like bisu did.
renzy
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada781 Posts
April 01 2011 19:35 GMT
#143
On April 02 2011 02:33 bearbuddy wrote:
So Fantasy is the one who beat Jaedong multiple times in the 2009 grand final to take home the bacon, has just recently won OSL and took the number one spot in the KeSpa ranking, and is the one who is in the famed SKT T1 terran line and pretty much Oov's favorite son...

Yet Bisu is in the cheering poll, not Fantasy?


You need to realize that the only reason SKT was ballsy enough to let Fantasy pull that all in in Game 7 back in 2009 was because they had Bisu for Super Ace...
Bisu is the man
FakePlasticLove
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States357 Posts
April 01 2011 19:47 GMT
#144
On April 02 2011 04:35 renzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 02:33 bearbuddy wrote:
So Fantasy is the one who beat Jaedong multiple times in the 2009 grand final to take home the bacon, has just recently won OSL and took the number one spot in the KeSpa ranking, and is the one who is in the famed SKT T1 terran line and pretty much Oov's favorite son...

Yet Bisu is in the cheering poll, not Fantasy?


You need to realize that the only reason SKT was ballsy enough to let Fantasy pull that all in in Game 7 back in 2009 was because they had Bisu for Super Ace...

That being said, Fantasy has been the true Ace of SKT for awhile. While Bisu slumped and failed to break Ro16 for over 2 years, Fantasy has made a much bigger impact on the scene (Revolutionizing TvZ, winning a SL, etc).
All walls are great if the roof doesn't fall
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5203 Posts
April 01 2011 19:57 GMT
#145
Cannot wait!! I'm going to bed early so I dont have to wait :D

Hoping to see
(T)HiyA vs (P)Bisu
(Z)Jaedong vs (T)Fantasy
for breakfast.
FBH #1!
Renkaoru
Profile Joined October 2010
390 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 20:11:48
April 01 2011 19:58 GMT
#146
(T)HiyA will AK the living f*** out of SK Telecom T1.

On April 02 2011 01:14 dukethegold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 23:41 kamikami wrote:
On April 01 2011 16:50 chongu wrote:
[image loading]

Rofl Dead even...... What happened to the mass majority of the SKT1 fans?


Anti-Bisu/Anti-SKT fans from Hite + KT and Jaedong fans from Oz can easily outnumber Bisu fans.


At this point, the TL fanbase is perfectly split between rabid Bisu fans and Bisu anti-fans. There is no neutral ground. You either love him or hate his (or his fanboys') guts.


To this and other related posts, I quote the PDPop MSL opening song:
It's not all about you! The world turns without you! The more you speak, the less I care about you, you, you!
God is in His heaven. All is right with the world.
IamBach
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1059 Posts
April 01 2011 20:02 GMT
#147
On April 02 2011 01:17 popzags wrote:
Predictions:

(T)Fantasy « La Mancha » (P)Perfectman
(T)Fantasy « Bloody Ridge » (Z)Jaedong
(Z)s2 « Aztec » (Z)Jaedong
(P)Bisu « Circuit Breaker » (Z)Jaedong
(T)Ssak « Empire of the Sun » (Z)Jaedong
(T)Ssak « Fortress SE » (T)Hiya

SK Telecom T1 2-4 Hwaseung OZ

I can see this.
Just listen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lCZeePG48
HitoriTomoyo
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada264 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 20:20:05
April 01 2011 20:11 GMT
#148
If Killer and HiyA bring their game face here, and Bisu is somehow sniped early on, OZ has this.

Jaedong MAY be getting back some of his force as of late, but I've yet to see a convincing performance from him that suggests that he can take down Bisu head-to-head.

However, I DO see Jaedong as the favorite against Fantasy.

On April 02 2011 04:28 Trajan98 wrote:
As good as Fantasy has become, he still doesn't win as consistently as Bisu nor did he revolutionize a matchup like bisu did.


Fantasy was the reason why T1 even made it to the play-off finals, let alone the play-offs period (this was when Bisu's performance was at its worst). If anything, when it comes to play-offs overall, Fantasy is arguably the most reliable player to have on your team; just look at every play-off T1 has ever participated in and note how valuable Fantasy's contribution has been each and every single time.

Fantasy repopularized Mech vs Zergs back in Swarm Season.
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 20:26:51
April 01 2011 20:13 GMT
#149
Fantasy is one of the most clutch playoffs performer. He actually 2-0'd JD in that final on 2 separate days, so no, he didn't lose to JD in that Final.

The poll shows preference of a bought over superstar over a budding homegrown wunderkind. I like to take all kinds of jabs at SKT T1, and this is one of them =). *coughevilempirecough*
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
April 01 2011 20:22 GMT
#150
On April 02 2011 04:47 FakePlasticLove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 04:35 renzy wrote:
On April 02 2011 02:33 bearbuddy wrote:
So Fantasy is the one who beat Jaedong multiple times in the 2009 grand final to take home the bacon, has just recently won OSL and took the number one spot in the KeSpa ranking, and is the one who is in the famed SKT T1 terran line and pretty much Oov's favorite son...

Yet Bisu is in the cheering poll, not Fantasy?


You need to realize that the only reason SKT was ballsy enough to let Fantasy pull that all in in Game 7 back in 2009 was because they had Bisu for Super Ace...

That being said, Fantasy has been the true Ace of SKT for awhile. While Bisu slumped and failed to break Ro16 for over 2 years, Fantasy has made a much bigger impact on the scene (Revolutionizing TvZ, winning a SL, etc).



I always thought midas started with the mech transition in tvz? (i think that's what you mean by revolutionizing tvz)
wat
Yxes2211
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1587 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 20:34:00
April 01 2011 20:29 GMT
#151
I know everyone is hyped for JvB but im more hyped for JvF (not Flash )

Fantasy wants revenge, he said so in last weeks interview, and he now has momentum given he's KeSPA's #1.

Plus Jaedong vs. Fantasy is always awesome
Jaedong and Baby
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
April 01 2011 20:35 GMT
#152
On April 02 2011 04:28 Trajan98 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 02:33 bearbuddy wrote:
So Fantasy is the one who beat Jaedong multiple times in the 2009 grand final to take home the bacon, has just recently won OSL and took the number one spot in the KeSpa ranking, and is the one who is in the famed SKT T1 terran line and pretty much Oov's favorite son...

Yet Bisu is in the cheering poll, not Fantasy?


Fantasy lost to Jaedong in that final, and Bisu has won 3 msl championships and has the best career winning % next to Flash and Jaedong. Bisu has done by far the best for SKT this winners league season. As good as Fantasy has become, he still doesn't win as consistently as Bisu nor did he revolutionize a matchup like bisu did.

Regular PL/WL is one thing, play-offs are another matter. Fantasy has always outperformed Bisu in post-season:

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 28 2011 06:01 Ryo wrote:
apparently Fantasy is now tied first with Sea for the most number of post-season wins. Both are at 14 wins and 5 losses.

[image loading]
Sea
Fantasy
Bisu
Jaedong
Savior
Skyhigh
Midas
Canata
Sigamari
Effort

영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
pylonsalad
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada649 Posts
April 01 2011 20:53 GMT
#153
If Fantasy gets sniped before Hiya comes out, I predict Hiya will bring it home for Oz and it doesn't matter how Jaedong does. After Fantasy, nobody on T1 is a favourite over Magicarp.
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
April 01 2011 21:18 GMT
#154
Sky, sHy and Dear are gonna show up and WRECK SHIT.
_romantic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States455 Posts
April 01 2011 21:43 GMT
#155
If Hiya snipes Bisu, SKT will go down; JD's vT is still stronger than Fanta's vZ.
Jaedong beats other players. Bisu beats other players, in PL. Flash beats Starcraft.
IamBach
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1059 Posts
April 01 2011 21:51 GMT
#156
On April 02 2011 06:43 l0st_romantic wrote:
If Hiya snipes Bisu, SKT will go down; JD's vT is still stronger than Fanta's vZ.

Lol you think?
Just listen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lCZeePG48
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
April 01 2011 22:01 GMT
#157
Jaedong > Fantasy
Hiya > Bisu
Killer > any SKT zergs

We got this no problem.
Mereel
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany895 Posts
April 01 2011 22:17 GMT
#158
jaedong allkill
TPW Mapmaking Team
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
April 01 2011 22:34 GMT
#159
yesss!

This is going to be so epic. Jaedong hwaiting!
only.. 5 and 1/2 more hours.. :/
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
hmmm...
Profile Joined March 2011
632 Posts
April 01 2011 22:48 GMT
#160
i have NOT been happy with OZ's entry the last couple of matches.

Killer went on a KILLING but the we saw OZ's coach not send him out for many of the subsequent matches, instead sending out one rookie then using JD/Hiya/Perfectman. Killer did lose one when he was sent out but that's just one game; he's already shown what he's capable of.

I better seen JD/Hiya/Killer/ combo tonight or else I will be disappointed in the coaching staff
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