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radialis
Profile Joined November 2010
726 Posts
March 20 2011 07:39 GMT
#1641
On March 20 2011 16:32 letian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 16:28 tissue wrote:
That's pretty much the way with the best chance to snipe JD ZvZ. Don't try any funny stuff pre-mutas, try to take it all down to one muta fight, where if he mismicros he loses.

Unfortunately this is his tendency, get mutas, lose muta battle, its been a while since I saw some good muta micro from JD, actually I cant even remember such a game this year definitely, (((

yeah his muta micro is less than impressive now

his ling micro is still by FAR the best. he's still sick at zvz and i think almost all his recent wins have been thanks to his ling micro. i'll take ling micro over muta micro any day.
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
March 20 2011 07:39 GMT
#1642
On March 20 2011 16:35 MiraKul wrote:
Can someone give me a recap on how did Fantasy and Bisu lost to JD? D:

Fantasy kept getting owned repeatedly in the early/midgame bio phase. He eventually switched to mech and he was doing a decent job defending and taking expos, but JD eventually broke the mech with lots of ultra drops + darkswarm + lings.

In JvB. Bisu decided to just build one cannon and JD attacked with 4 lurkers + a bunch of lings and no obs to detect the lurkers meant he could do nothing to defend his nat. It was GG soon after that.
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
March 20 2011 07:39 GMT
#1643
On March 20 2011 16:37 lolbolt wrote:
does anyone feel that Jaedong threw that last game away...?

his play was just bad enough to lose. If anybody interested S2 2-0 JD, I hope Jd will humiliate him next time, I know he will
Pvvned
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States409 Posts
March 20 2011 07:39 GMT
#1644
On March 20 2011 16:37 lolbolt wrote:
does anyone feel that Jaedong threw that last game away...?

Yeah because someone's surely gonna risk throwing games again after what happened to (Z)He who shall not be named and the others.

JD got outplayed.
http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/R1CH/Happy2.gif
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
March 20 2011 07:40 GMT
#1645
On March 20 2011 16:39 DarkMatter_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 16:35 MiraKul wrote:
Can someone give me a recap on how did Fantasy and Bisu lost to JD? D:

Fantasy kept getting owned repeatedly in the early/midgame bio phase. He eventually switched to mech and he was doing a decent job defending and taking expos, but JD eventually broke the mech with lots of ultra drops + darkswarm + lings.

In JvB. Bisu decided to just build one cannon and JD attacked with 4 lurkers + a bunch of lings and no obs to detect the lurkers meant he could do nothing to defend his nat. It was GG soon after that.

yeah pretty stupid mistakes from both of them, but hell, JD also failed lurks runby against Flash. That happens, I was happy to see JD win his games, however muta micro muta micro((
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
March 20 2011 07:41 GMT
#1646
JD should just be send 3rd from now on. Killer is doing a much better job getting those clutch wins at the end.
Eun_Star
Profile Joined April 2010
United States322 Posts
March 20 2011 07:42 GMT
#1647
On March 20 2011 16:37 lolbolt wrote:
does anyone feel that Jaedong threw that last game away...?


no. and these speculations on "throwing matches" needs to really stop

jd messed up muta micro and it cost him the game. his decision to take the nat earlier than s2 meant less zerglings in time to defend s2's attack. jd saw the attack coming miles ahead but just didn't defend it so well.
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
March 20 2011 07:42 GMT
#1648
On March 20 2011 16:41 DarkMatter_ wrote:
JD should just be send 3rd from now on. Killer is doing a much better job getting those clutch wins at the end.

I think they should have sent KIller vs Fanta, KIller been pretty solid recently, PM is like - dt or autogg
miky_ardiente
Profile Joined May 2010
Mexico387 Posts
March 20 2011 07:42 GMT
#1649
On March 20 2011 16:36 letian wrote:
well at least STK starboys, Fantasy and Bisu, were pawned, that makes my day, well, pity but some scrubs do get their share of a pie.

even if our starboys lost jaedongOZ lost in the ace match in a zvz, that makes my day
My anaconda dont want none... u know the rest
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
March 20 2011 07:43 GMT
#1650
On March 20 2011 16:39 Pvvned wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 16:37 lolbolt wrote:
does anyone feel that Jaedong threw that last game away...?

Yeah because someone's surely gonna risk throwing games again after what happened to (Z)He who shall not be named and the others.

JD got outplayed.


dude you completely misinterpreted him. to "throw a game away" means you have an equal or better chance of winning and make a bad move to lose it. in this case, by having shit muta micro.

i wouldn't call it outplayed. outplayed is what flash does to him, he simply cannot keep up no matter what he does. we all know JD is capable of good muta micro, this time his was sub par and S2's was better.
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
March 20 2011 07:43 GMT
#1651
On March 20 2011 16:42 miky_ardiente wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 16:36 letian wrote:
well at least STK starboys, Fantasy and Bisu, were pawned, that makes my day, well, pity but some scrubs do get their share of a pie.

even if our starboys lost jaedongOZ lost in the ace match in a zvz, that makes my day

that sounds pretty even)
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
March 20 2011 07:44 GMT
#1652
On March 20 2011 16:42 letian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 16:41 DarkMatter_ wrote:
JD should just be send 3rd from now on. Killer is doing a much better job getting those clutch wins at the end.

I think they should have sent KIller vs Fanta, KIller been pretty solid recently, PM is like - dt or autogg

I haven't seen Killer do well vs late game
haven't seen his vs mech
☺
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1170 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-20 07:45:05
March 20 2011 07:44 GMT
#1653
I haven't felt this numb after a game since Jaedong lost to HoGiL in OSL Ro16. I mean Jaedong did pretty well... but my heart just went on a rollercoaster ride the last few games... and for it to end like that... wow...
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
March 20 2011 07:45 GMT
#1654
On March 20 2011 16:43 letian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 16:42 miky_ardiente wrote:
On March 20 2011 16:36 letian wrote:
well at least STK starboys, Fantasy and Bisu, were pawned, that makes my day, well, pity but some scrubs do get their share of a pie.

even if our starboys lost jaedongOZ lost in the ace match in a zvz, that makes my day

that sounds pretty even)

Honestly, making the postseason means way more right now than who wins.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
March 20 2011 07:45 GMT
#1655
omg turned out after hyuks epic hyuking against jaedong

just to read that s2 won

OMGOMGOMGOMG

coach park should definitely field s2 / hyuk more, and less best ( ://////) and rain/sun
wat
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
March 20 2011 07:45 GMT
#1656
I always wondered how I good player can lose to some sniper with 43% winrate, (S2 has 50%) but anyway, chit happens. OK I should get over it, we were so close, damn!
Vanka
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China1336 Posts
March 20 2011 07:46 GMT
#1657
On March 20 2011 16:45 Elefanto wrote:
omg turned out after hyuks epic hyuking against jaedong

just to read that s2 won

OMGOMGOMGOMG

coach park should definitely field s2 / hyuk more, and less best ( ://////) and rain/sun


s2 and hyuk have had their moments, and have definitely stepped up when needed most (s2 beat JD in an ace match last season too), but they're far from consistent regulars.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
March 20 2011 07:47 GMT
#1658
On March 20 2011 16:45 Elefanto wrote:
omg turned out after hyuks epic hyuking against jaedong

just to read that s2 won

OMGOMGOMGOMG

coach park should definitely field s2 / hyuk more, and less best ( ://////) and rain/sun

s2 should definitely be fielded more, he keeps getting nice wins against Z and P(not so much T though).
But have a bit more faith in Sun. He's actually a good player, just really inexperienced. I've seen some damn impressive vP/vT play from him before.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
March 20 2011 07:47 GMT
#1659
On March 20 2011 16:45 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 16:43 letian wrote:
On March 20 2011 16:42 miky_ardiente wrote:
On March 20 2011 16:36 letian wrote:
well at least STK starboys, Fantasy and Bisu, were pawned, that makes my day, well, pity but some scrubs do get their share of a pie.

even if our starboys lost jaedongOZ lost in the ace match in a zvz, that makes my day

that sounds pretty even)

Honestly, making the postseason means way more right now than who wins.

true, I think STK1 deserves it, when OZ players should work harder, not to throw JD into such a situation.
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
March 20 2011 07:47 GMT
#1660
Anticlimactic end to the series, but I'm still happy enough with the results. JD is finally silencing the critics that say he can't beat S-class players.
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